Asatru in D/FW?
sessr...@yahoo.com
Does anyone know of a group in the Dallas/Fort Worth area that
are members of the Asatru (I think I may have spelled that wrong)
tradiition, and are open to either classes or new members? Thank you
in advance..
Vidar
on the 27th. Feel free to e-mail me * love...@flash.net * for more
information.
Lady Diana
I am not of that path so I can't say FOR SURE that anyone who goes is, but
I'm PRETTY SURE that at least one guy is.
:)
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sessr...@yahoo.com wrote in message <36cf285e...@news.flash.net>...
Vidar
next weekend. We Texas Asatruars are networking heavily and therefore contact
opportunities are increasing.
Greg Shetler
an open sumbel at Ymir's house on the 27th. There are actually a fair
number of Asatruar in the DFW area.
If you've begun any research into Asatru, you've probably noticed that
it is not a religion strongly given to "teacher/student" relationships.
Instead, it concentrates fairly heavily on each person finding their own
relationship with the gods and goddesses.
Your best bet for more information is to hunt the net for the Prose Edda
and the Poetic Edda. There are some fairly good translations on the net
now. Following that, find some good Asatru sites (and there are a
number of them), and use them to get recommendations on good books.
I will be happy to discuss Asatru topics, as you discover things, as
will be those on alt.religion.asatru. As with most newsgroups, you'll
need a fairly thick skin to post to the newsgroup, but it is generally
worth it.
Good luck! Keep my e-mail, if you want to discuss things Asatru....
Dux
OnOffOn
(Although this sounds like the setup line to a bad joke)
Why don't the DFW Asatru go to B&B?
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Vidar <love...@flash.net> wrote in message
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> FWIW, most DFW Asatrufolk don't go to B&B.
>Lady Diana wrote:
Vidar
hangouts, etc. as being of and for Wiccans. Asatru/heathenism
practices have many differences with Wiccan practices and
therefore any place that is Pagan/Wiccan is regarded as being just
that and not ours. Of course Buddhism, Christianity, Native
American paths, etc. aren't ours either so it's not just Wicca.
As long as Asatru folk leave such places to Wiccans then it
remains just that. On the other hand we did have a wonderful
sumbul last night for Texas Asatru folk. There are monthly
sumbuls developing for DFW, Austin, San Antonio and Houston so
Asatru folk here can have ample opportunity to meet face to face.
Many of these events are open so anyone new, or just curious about
heathenry can meet.
Wiccans outnumber Asatru folk by about 40-1 so finding Wiccans
is far easier than finding Asatruars.
GaylaGoyle
differences in beliefs? I don't agree with most Wiccans regarding my beliefs
either, but if it is a social gathing and not a circle, what does it matter?
How does anyone ever get to know what you believe anyway? Perhaps that is why
you are outnumbered ratio wise by Wiccans, because so few actually know who and
what you are.
Vidar>> Many Asatruars tend to regard "Pagan" events, gatherings,
Vidar
the very individual opinions of many individuals.
As to the numbers game, this is an area of debate with us. While we certainly
wish to have more of us we also witness the current "Celtic" lovefest of modern
American culture and wish to eschew that as much as possible. There are some
blessings that Hollywood regards "viking=cheese whizz". Many Asatruars are rather
nervous about the forthcoming movie based on Michael Critchen's book "Eaters of the
Dead". Some are hoping that it doesn't catch on in popular culture.
OnOffOn
For the record, B&B is not "The Pagan Community Center." It is...
"Betwixt & Between Community Center, Celebrating Spiritual Exploration."
Check it out. All paths are welcome. You might find a place you like.
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Vidar <love...@flash.net> wrote in message
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> Many Asatruars tend to regard "Pagan" events, gatherings,
>hangouts, etc. as being of and for Wiccans. Asatru/heathenism
>practices have many differences with Wiccan practices and
>therefore any place that is Pagan/Wiccan is regarded as being just
>that and not ours. Of course Buddhism, Christianity, Native
>American paths, etc. aren't ours either so it's not just Wicca.
>
> As long as Asatru folk leave such places to Wiccans then it
>remains just that. On the other hand we did have a wonderful
>sumbul last night for Texas Asatru folk. There are monthly
>sumbuls developing for DFW, Austin, San Antonio and Houston so
>Asatru folk here can have ample opportunity to meet face to face.
>Many of these events are open so anyone new, or just curious about
>heathenry can meet.
>
> Wiccans outnumber Asatru folk by about 40-1 so finding Wiccans
>is far easier than finding Asatruars.
>
Vidar
Vidar wrote:
> As to the numbers game, this is an area of debate with us. While we certainly
> wish to have more of us we also witness the current "Celtic" lovefest of modern
> American culture and wish to eschew that as much as possible. There are some
> blessings that Hollywood regards "viking=cheese whizz". Many Asatruars are rather
> nervous about the forthcoming movie based on Michael Critchen's book "Eaters of the
> Dead". Some are hoping that it doesn't catch on in popular culture.
>
To clarify this point, those individuals who are serious in studying the lore are
welcome no matter by what route they come. Those individuals who just saw a movie,
(i.e. "The Craft", Braveheart", etc.) and find it hip and trendy would probably not be
as welcome. There is a lot of recorded literature (similar to Beowulf) that ranges
from tales of the Gods and Goddesses & heroes to how the Christian conversions were
carried out to instructions on the runes (old rune poems) etc. This is what most
Asatruar prefer to emphasize. There are of course exceptions. Every individual has
their own agendas of course. I personally have driven by B&B twice but didn't have the
address with me either time so I didn't stop.
GaylaGoyle
because my maternal grandfather wanted me to. He thought it important to know
what our ansestors believed and he is certain, though there is no actual proof,
that his side of the family is Viking. On the other hand, I know that my
paternal family is Scottish/Irish, and I didn't need the movie "Braveheart" to
get me interested. The home movies of my father at the age of 3 or 4 running
up and down a set of stairs in a kilt was plenty to get me curious about "why
is daddy in a skirt". I say this because I was, myself, only about 4 when I
saw the film and was told it was my father when he was a child. Ok. I'm done
rambling now. 8-)
Vidar>>>Those individuals who just saw a movie,
Vidar
Isles" is that they were settled by many different tribes (kind of like America)
and thus ancestry is likely to include many different lines.
R. Michael Litchfield
> Many Asatruars tend to regard "Pagan" events, gatherings,
>hangouts, etc. as being of and for Wiccans.
Besides the asatru have much more important things to do, like stand around
looking grim carrying spears, then associate with them damn hippy free-love
drug addled fruity pagans. >_)
-Michael
Vidar
believe that all, or even most, pagans qualify as "hippy free-love drug addled
fruit".
Lady Diana
I'm a regular...in fact, one of the advisors, and am NOT Wiccan.
*B*B*
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Vidar wrote in message <36D9742B...@flash.net>...
> Many Asatruars tend to regard "Pagan" events, gatherings,
>hangouts, etc. as being of and for Wiccans. Asatru/heathenism
>practices have many differences with Wiccan practices and
>therefore any place that is Pagan/Wiccan is regarded as being just
>that and not ours. Of course Buddhism, Christianity, Native
>American paths, etc. aren't ours either so it's not just Wicca.
>
> As long as Asatru folk leave such places to Wiccans then it
>remains just that. On the other hand we did have a wonderful
>sumbul last night for Texas Asatru folk. There are monthly
>sumbuls developing for DFW, Austin, San Antonio and Houston so
>Asatru folk here can have ample opportunity to meet face to face.
>Many of these events are open so anyone new, or just curious about
>heathenry can meet.
>
> Wiccans outnumber Asatru folk by about 40-1 so finding Wiccans
>is far easier than finding Asatruars.
>
>OnOffOn wrote:
>
>> Ok, you've got me curious.
>>
>> (Although this sounds like the setup line to a bad joke)
>> Why don't the DFW Asatru go to B&B?
>>
>> 101
>>
>> Vidar <love...@flash.net> wrote in message
Lady Diana
actually exist! (SOMEWHERE)
I'm in the middle of doing of mine and can give you pointers if you like...
*B*B*
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GaylaGoyle wrote in message <19990228192830...@ng33.aol.com>...
Lady Diana
First of all, I would like the people who may not know any better that
despite several posts of yours which have degraded either B&B, it's
programs, OR BOTH, that you DO NOT live in Dallas, and to the best of my
knowledge, HAVE NOT BEEN TO THE CENTER.
For EVERYONE'S information, from someone who HAS been there, the Center has
a VERY strict non-drug use on the premises policy.
Thank you for your time and understanding.
Diana
*B*B*
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R. Michael Litchfield wrote in message <7bd1tg$5pb$1...@hiram.io.com>...
>In article <36D9742B...@flash.net>, Vidar <love...@flash.net>
wrote:
>> Many Asatruars tend to regard "Pagan" events, gatherings,
>>hangouts, etc. as being of and for Wiccans.
>
Skyclad
our mutual beliefs would prevent a person from partaking in drugs.
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GaylaGoyle
18th century) it would be much eisier <G>.
Lady Diana>>>Have you considered doing your family tree? Perhaps some proof
KIMMINESIN
>
however, her point was that it is not allowed on B&B's premisises. They
don't care what you do in your car, in your home, whereever, just not in the
center.
basically, litch is bear baiting again, and lady diane fell for it. ( as i,
myself, have been known to do once or twice, fall for it i mean. i've given up
bear baiting for lent.)
KIM
KIMMINESIN
>the
>18th century) it would be much eisier <G>.
I know that to get on the tribal rolls, you only have to find someone on the
....... I think 1836 was the year.......tribal list.
Much bfore that you have to depend on the tribal record keepers. If you can
find one.
There are somethings out there, but they are hard to find.
KIM
Skyclad
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KIMMINESIN <kimmi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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CharlayneD
Probably because it's ILLEGAL in Texas to use drugs?
While in our community it's considered a matter of personal responsiblity and
choice, the government frowns on it and doesn't give a whit what we, in our
community, think of it.
So, probably (and I'm NOT part of B&B, since I live in Houston) and this is
strictly speculation, they decided that being able to keep the place from being
raided by the cops for drug use, and keeping the place open for use by pagans
was more important than trying to buck the system.
Just my .02 worth.
Blessed be:
CharlayneD
Be the best representative of your God/dess you can be. If you are going to
talk the talk, walk the walk.
KIMMINESIN
>
Something to do with the law........... if things are illegal, the police tend
to show up and haul people away to a not so very nice place, where you must pay
big bucks to leave.
KIM
Skyclad
shut down a place if they don't like what people do there, even if the place
itself has nothing to do with it.
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CharlayneD <charl...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Tall Sword
>basically, litch is bear baiting again, and lady diane fell for it. ( as
i,
>myself, have been known to do once or twice, fall for it i mean. i've given
up
>bear baiting for lent.)
BB
Tall Sword
GaylaGoyle
continue their operations. Understandable?
R. Michael Litchfield
Lady Diana <LadyDiana@*Goddess_Of_The*full-moon.com> wrote:
>Litch, *I* PERSONALLY take offense to that statement!!!
Maybe you shouldn't snort so much crank before reading usenet, it makes
you post paranoid rantings that are completely out of touch with reality.
>First of all, I would like the people who may not know any better that
>despite several posts of yours which have degraded either B&B, it's
>programs, OR BOTH
I don't think I've ever "degraded" (I think you meant something
closer to 'derided' BTW) Betwixt and Between or it's programs,
in fact I don't remember uttering a negative word about the place. The
closest I've come to anything like that was to ask about why they
segregated some of their discussion groups and express my view that I
thought such behavior without a very good reason was a bad idea.
>For EVERYONE'S information, from someone who HAS been there, the Center has
>a VERY strict non-drug use on the premises policy.
BWAHHAHAHAHA!
You've got to be kidding. You actually drew some sort of implication on my
part that B&B was some sort of drug den? I can barely believe you're
serious, but judging from how grossly you mischarecterized my attitude
towards the Dallas pagan community center I suspect you are serious.
Paranoid, but serious.
Please be assured that I do not think B&B is some sort of drug den.
>Thank you for your time and understanding.
Pity you don't have enough of either to appreciate my post or at least ask
what I meant by it before flying off the handle in some sort of hysterical
defense of something that was never attacked.
>Diana
-Michael
(did anyone else see such an implication in here?)
R. Michael Litchfield
KIMMINESIN <kimmi...@aol.com> wrote:
>basically, litch is bear baiting again, and lady diane fell for it. ( as i,
>myself, have been known to do once or twice, fall for it i mean. i've given up
>bear baiting for lent.)
I must plead guilty to the charge of trying to yank someone's chain. I was
however astounded at the one that got pulled.
I was attempting to try and discuss some of the social differences between
heathen society and the general wiccacentric pagan community, something
that has been a source of friction in previous discussions and which
seemed relevant to the conversation.
I said, in a humorous tone (hell, I even included a bloody _SMILEY_ to
make sure everyone understood I was jesting):
"Besides the asatru have much more important things to do, like stand
around looking grim carrying spears, then associate with them damn hippy
free-love drug addled fruity pagans. >_)"
I was attempting to point out the asatru tend to be more conservative and
reserved culturally than your standard pagan. I wanted to hyperbolically
point out two images of each group that might tend to repel the other.
The last thing I expected was Diana to leap to B&B's defense.
>KIM
-Michael
rsp...@gmail.com
> Does anyone know of a group in the Dallas/Fort Worth area that
> are members of the Asatru (I think I may have spelled that wrong)
> tradiition, and are open to either classes or new members? Thank you
> in advance..
This is the oldest post on the internet but I am wondering if anyone is still paying attention. I wonder if there are still "several" Asatru groups around Dallas.
