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Lone Star Loonies
Texas Republicans endorse God, squabble, call for dismantling the
federal government, await indictments and pray for Bush.

- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Jake Bernstein and Dave Mann
Salon.com

June 11, 2004 | On the first night of the Texas Republican state
convention last week, there were plenty of receptions to attend.
Instead, almost 200 delegates and visitors chose to file patiently
into a room in the Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center in downtown San
Antonio for the meeting of the Permanent Platform Committee. The next
two and half hours would be one of their few opportunities to
influence the party's ideology.

Earlier that day, the chairwoman of the Republican Party of Texas,
Tina Benkiser, had proclaimed to the 11,000 or so delegates assembled
for the June 3-5 convention, "This is the true grass-roots center of
America." This state party, in fact, is the crucible in which Karl
Rove helped craft the presidency of George W. Bush. It is the home of
U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land. The party has
seized control of every statewide office in Texas, won majorities in
both chambers in the Statehouse for the first time in more than a
century, and along with ideological soul mates, captured the U.S.
Congress. The grass-roots movement that provided the energy and
manpower for the GOP's rise in Texas traces its origin to Ronald
Reagan's presidential campaign in 1980 and then Pat Robertson's run
for the presidential nomination in 1988. The televangelist's campaign
birthed an overtly evangelical cadre of revolutionaries with a radical
plan for a return to 19th century government, at least as they
understand it.

The values and world vision of the movement today can be found
enshrined in the 24-page party platform. It's a fearful, twilight
looking-glass world, beset by enemies, where the purity of the
culture, under constant siege, must be protected from threats both
internal and external. The platform makes short work of the federal
government, calling for the abolition of everything from the U.S.
Department of Education to the Internal Revenue Service, along with
most taxes. Aliens without proper identification are to be summarily
deported. Illegal immigrants should not be granted drivers' licenses.
Voter registration is to be made more difficult. "American English" is
the official language of the state, and "the Party supports the
termination of bilingual education programs in Texas." A plank titled
"equality for all citizens" urges the repeal of hate crimes
legislation. Another one states: "We oppose any criminal or civil
penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith,
conviction, or belief in traditional values." Since the Bible is the
literal truth, teachers should have the right to instruct their public
school students in "creation science." The Ten Commandments are the
foundation of the legal system. And lest anyone forget, "America is a
Christian nation."

When asked by reporters for comment, Texas Democratic Party chairman
Charles Soechting called the state GOP's platform "the longest
political suicide note in modern Texas history." While Soechting
flagged the Republicans' extremism, the internal fight in San Antonio
over the platform's planks revealed a party still struggling to make
the transition from insurgency to leadership. A lack of statewide
races on the ballot this year combined with overwhelming support for
President Bush, who will certainly carry the Lone Star State, has
deprived the party faithful of a unifying electoral challenge. In its
absence, divisions and political ambition are moving front and center.

The hot-button issues at the convention were gambling and school
vouchers. Both pitted the Republican elected leadership and their
financial backers squarely against much of the grass-roots.
Instituting a voucher program that will be a model for the nation has
been a burning priority for certain Texans.

In particular, during the 2002 election cycle, a San Antonio hospital
bed magnate named James Leininger invested $624,774 mostly in GOP
candidates, according to campaign watchdog Texans for Public Justice,
apparently with the goal of establishing a voucher program in Texas.
From 2000 to 2004, Leininger's entire family gave $2,497,250 to state
candidates, which does not include the contributions of numerous
companies in which he owns sizable interests. This past February,
Leininger and his wife joined Texas Gov. Rick Perry and his wife along
with anti-tax guru and Washington lobbyist Grover Norquist, among
others, on a private cruise in the Bahamas to "talk about school
finance."

A month later, the governor called the Legislature into an unscheduled
special session on the subject, which fizzled because of Republican
bickering. Vouchers could soon become a policy reality. Perry has
declared himself open to a voucher program as part of any eventual
school finance package. But many of the faithful seem to be having
second thoughts -- because they see vouchers as a Trojan horse for the
federal government.

Members of the convention's platform committee said they heard more
heated testimony on "school choice" than on any other issue. At the
meeting, numerous participants testified to their fear that if public
funding in the form of vouchers finds its way into private schools,
government regulation is sure to follow. "It's time to reverse the
idea that Republicans are for vouchers," said one delegate, echoing
many others. "Vouchers lead to more control." In the end, the sop in
the platform to these complaints involved a call for a state
constitutional amendment to accompany any voucher law that would
ensure the government stays out of private schools.

The issue of gambling will not likely be resolved quite as easily.
Signature takers wielding anti-gambling petitions greeted delegates at
the entrance to the convention hall. "Please sign below and let
Republican legislators know that we want them to uphold the GOP
platform," the petition read. It came in response to a proposal by the
governor and legislative leaders to allow 40,000 slot machines into
the state as a gambit to pay for a cut in property taxes.

Gaming interests are big supporters of the Republican campaign machine
in Texas, contributing $572,175 to Perry since 2000. But the party
platform, as always, is unequivocal on the matter. "We oppose any
further legalization, government facilitation, or financial guarantees
relating to any type of gambling including casino, riverboat, slot
machine, video keno, eight-liners, and other games of chance."

When Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison spoke on Saturday, the final day of the
convention, some of the loudest applause came when she said, after a
pause and a stern glare, "Governor Bush fought gambling in this state,
and I will too." The delegates roared in approval.

The popular Hutchison is seen as the most serious challenger to Perry
and his bid to become the first Texas governor in history to last more
than a decade in office. (Perry served out the last two years of
Bush's second term). The potential political shuffle in the 2006
gubernatorial primary was the proverbial elephant in the convention
hall.

Conventional wisdom holds that Texas is so solidly Republican that
whoever survives the GOP primary will ultimately gain statewide office
in 2006. Comptroller Carol Keeton Strayhorn has all but declared she
will run against Perry, but her bid could depend on the senator's
plans. Some believe Hutchison's destiny is tied to that of George W.
Bush. Under this theory, if Bush wins another term, the Democrats put
Hillary Clinton on the ticket in 2008, and the GOP counters with
Hutchison. If Bush loses, Hutchison returns to Texas to run against
Perry. In this scenario, Hutchison frees her Senate seat for a run by
current Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst. Strayhorn then goes for the
lieutenant governor spot. But no one's counting out Perry.

As columnist and former Texas Observer editor Molly Ivins has noted,
he possesses a head of hair of which all Texans can be proud. The
governor, like Bush, also knows how to ingratiate himself with the
state's right-wing moneymen, a mix of energy magnates, home builders
and the aforementioned hospital-bed maker. Not coincidentally, these
campaign contributors' legislative wish lists have been mostly
fulfilled recently.

Another edge favoring Perry is his shrewd chief of staff, Mike Toomey,
who's earned the moniker "Mike the Knife" for his particularly sharp
brand of political maneuvering. Toomey is reportedly one of the
masterminds behind Republican efforts to funnel potentially illegal
corporate money into the 2002 state election, which is currently the
subject of an Austin grand jury investigation that may implicate
DeLay's operatives, if not DeLay himself.

It's been an especially acrimonious year in Texas politics, even by
the state's high standards. There was an orgy of strong-armed GOP
legislating, DeLay's redistricting crusade, and Democratic lawmakers
twice fleeing to neighboring states to prevent quorums. The question
in Austin is whether state Republicans, and their cousins in
Washington, can figure out how to govern. If the jockeying and
squabbling at the state convention is any indication, the road won't
be an easy one.

- - - - - - - - - - - -

About the writer
Jake Bernstein is editor of the Texas Observer.
Dave Mann is staff writer at the Texas Observer.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/06/11/texas_republicans/index.html
_________________________________________________________________________

"If you want to go backward, put it in R.
If you want to go forward, put it in D."


Mike Smith

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Jun 12, 2004, 6:15:19 AM6/12/04
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On 12 Jun 2004 01:22:46 -0600, anon...@nyx.nyx.net (Name withheld to
protect the reputation of the DC school district) wrote:

>
>
> Lone Star Loonies Jake Bernstein and Dave Mann


> Salon.com
>
> June 11, 2004 | On the first night of the Texas Republican state
> convention last week, there were plenty of receptions to attend.
> Instead, almost 200 delegates and visitors chose to file patiently
> into a room in the Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center in downtown San
> Antonio for the meeting of the Permanent Platform Committee. The next
> two and half hours would be one of their few opportunities to
> influence the party's ideology.
>

> This state party, in fact, is the crucible in which Karl


> Rove helped craft the presidency of George W. Bush.

Ahhhh... The "devil's" name invoked for the emotional value...

> It is the home of
> U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land.

Ummmmm.... No.
That would be in Sugarland...

> The party has
> seized control of every statewide office in Texas,

OK, the buffoons "think" winning elections is "seizing" control.
That's cute.....

> won majorities in
> both chambers in the Statehouse for the first time in more than a
> century, and along with ideological soul mates, captured the U.S.
> Congress.

OK, once again these two buffoons "think" that winning elections is
the equivilant of "capturing".

This is pathetic, and, frankly, it's boring. Did anyone actually wade
through the rest of this monotonous screed?

Mike Smith

Jeffrey E. Salzberg

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Jun 12, 2004, 7:13:21 AM6/12/04
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In article <iellc05qi71jrclv4...@4ax.com>, m...@wt.net
says...

> OK, the buffoons "think" winning elections is "seizing" control.
> That's cute.....

With a party platform like that, you won't have to worry much about
whether it's "winning elections" or "seizing control".

Patrick Lee Humphrey

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Jun 12, 2004, 8:01:26 AM6/12/04
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Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

>On 12 Jun 2004 01:22:46 -0600, anon...@nyx.nyx.net (Name withheld to
>protect the reputation of the DC school district) wrote:

>> Lone Star Loonies Jake Bernstein and Dave Mann
>> Salon.com

>> June 11, 2004 | On the first night of the Texas Republican state
>> convention last week, there were plenty of receptions to attend.
>> Instead, almost 200 delegates and visitors chose to file patiently
>> into a room in the Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center in downtown San
>> Antonio for the meeting of the Permanent Platform Committee. The next
>> two and half hours would be one of their few opportunities to
>> influence the party's ideology.

>> This state party, in fact, is the crucible in which Karl
>> Rove helped craft the presidency of George W. Bush.

>Ahhhh... The "devil's" name invoked for the emotional value...

Worship the Chimp in Chief all you want to. No one else is required to do as
you do.

>> It is the home of
>> U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land.

>Ummmmm.... No.
>That would be in Sugarland...

Thanks for your admission that you don't live anywhere near Houston -- as
someone on the southwest side, I get frequent reminders that the suburb just
down the road from me is Sugar Land. It's only had that name since at least
the day I pedaled out there as a ten-year-old, and that's going on four
decades ago.

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2003-04 Houston Aeros)

Dusty Rhodes

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Jun 12, 2004, 8:45:21 AM6/12/04
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Mike Smith wrote:
> On 12 Jun 2004 01:22:46 -0600, anon...@nyx.nyx.net (Name withheld to
> protect the reputation of the DC school district) wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Lone Star Loonies Jake Bernstein and Dave Mann
>> Salon.com
>>
>> June 11, 2004 | On the first night of the Texas Republican state
>> convention last week, there were plenty of receptions to attend.
>> Instead, almost 200 delegates and visitors chose to file patiently
>> into a room in the Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center in downtown
>> San Antonio for the meeting of the Permanent Platform Committee.
>> The next two and half hours would be one of their few
>> opportunities to influence the party's ideology.
>>
>
>> This state party, in fact, is the crucible in which Karl
>> Rove helped craft the presidency of George W. Bush.
>
> Ahhhh... The "devil's" name invoked for the emotional value...
>
>> It is the home of
>> U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land.
>
> Ummmmm.... No.
> That would be in Sugarland...

Um, no, you stupid shit scrubber, it most certainly would NOT. The correct
name of the town on the SW outskirts of Houston, which, were you not a
subliterate goober too fucking stupid to know you're too fucking stupid to
know, you'd know is SUGAR LAND, period, EOT, move the fuck on, you stupid
asshole.

Sheesh, what a maroon...

Cheers,

Dusty


Ttocs

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"Name withheld by request" <anon...@nyx.nyx.net> wrote in message
news:10870249...@irys.nyx.net...
>


http://www.sugarlandmusic.com/


Mitchell Holman

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Jun 12, 2004, 10:27:59 AM6/12/04
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Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote in news:iellc05qi71jrclv4c9tbfqnt52gkhjrh9@
4ax.com:

> On 12 Jun 2004 01:22:46 -0600, anon...@nyx.nyx.net (Name withheld to
> protect the reputation of the DC school district) wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Lone Star Loonies Jake Bernstein and Dave Mann
>> Salon.com
>>
>> June 11, 2004 | On the first night of the Texas Republican state
>> convention last week, there were plenty of receptions to attend.
>> Instead, almost 200 delegates and visitors chose to file patiently
>> into a room in the Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center in downtown San
>> Antonio for the meeting of the Permanent Platform Committee. The next
>> two and half hours would be one of their few opportunities to
>> influence the party's ideology.
>>
>
>> This state party, in fact, is the crucible in which Karl
>> Rove helped craft the presidency of George W. Bush.
>
> Ahhhh... The "devil's" name invoked for the emotional value...
>
>> It is the home of
>> U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land.
>
> Ummmmm.... No.
> That would be in Sugarland...


No, Sugar Land


From the town's own website:

"Welcome to Sugar Land, #1 in growth among Texas' 45
largest cities. Sugar Land is an economically strong
and culturally diverse city of approximately 66,129
residents."

http://www.ci.sugar-land.tx.us/

Dusty Rhodes

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Are you stupidly suggesting a frickin' BAND NAME, and that of a crappy, no
count, International House of Never Beens band, no less, somehow constitutes
the official name of the town of SUGAR LAND, TX, moron?

Brooks Gregory

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"Dusty Rhodes" <crustydusty1@THIS PARThotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ezEyc.7612$wD5....@fe1.texas.rr.com...

Go away phony


Mike Smith

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On 12 Jun 2004 07:01:26 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
wrote:

>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:
>
>>On 12 Jun 2004 01:22:46 -0600, anon...@nyx.nyx.net (Name withheld to
>>protect the reputation of the DC school district) wrote:
>
>>> Lone Star Loonies Jake Bernstein and Dave Mann
>>> Salon.com
>
>>> June 11, 2004 | On the first night of the Texas Republican state
>>> convention last week, there were plenty of receptions to attend.
>>> Instead, almost 200 delegates and visitors chose to file patiently
>>> into a room in the Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center in downtown San
>>> Antonio for the meeting of the Permanent Platform Committee. The next
>>> two and half hours would be one of their few opportunities to
>>> influence the party's ideology.
>
>>> This state party, in fact, is the crucible in which Karl
>>> Rove helped craft the presidency of George W. Bush.
>
>>Ahhhh... The "devil's" name invoked for the emotional value...
>
>Worship the Chimp in Chief all you want to. No one else is required to do as
>you do.

Ummmm.. Try to keep up.... The liberal's "devil" is Rove.


>
>>> It is the home of
>>> U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land.
>
>>Ummmmm.... No.
>>That would be in Sugarland...
>
>Thanks for your admission that you don't live anywhere near Houston -- as
>someone on the southwest side, I get frequent reminders that the suburb just
>down the road from me is Sugar Land. It's only had that name since at least
>the day I pedaled out there as a ten-year-old, and that's going on four
>decades ago.

DAMN! Is that all you have to whine about......

Mike Smith

Mike Smith

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Jun 12, 2004, 10:57:21 AM6/12/04
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Well.. If that's the only thing you can find to criticize, my post has
been productive.

Mike Smith

Mike Smith

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Jun 12, 2004, 11:00:18 AM6/12/04
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Congratulations, dumbass.
You actually succeeded in posting without making a mistake.

Did you find an editor willing to wade through your alleged "thought
process"?

Mike Smith

Dusty Rhodes

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Jun 12, 2004, 11:35:41 AM6/12/04
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> Congratulations, dumbass.


> You actually succeeded in posting without making a mistake.
>
> Did you find an editor willing to wade through your alleged "thought
> process"?

Sorry, stupid shit scrubbing imbecile, but, as every upright walker can so
clearly see, it is your own hilariously stupid assertions that so
effectively demonstrate laughably weak thought processes. If only you were
merely ignorant...

Oh, never mind. Obviously map reading is WELL beyond the capabilities of a
junior janitor subliterate conservadolt. Damned unfair of us to NOT expect
you to fart something hilariously STUPID, it is.

On behalf of all of those with 3 digits IQs, with none of whom, obviously
have you ever had any contact, allow me to apologize for our erroneous
presumption of your basic competence. Your plunger holster should have been
a dead give away.

Cheers,

Dusty


Bill Walker

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Jun 12, 2004, 11:44:37 AM6/12/04
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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
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Nailed again.. huh.. Mikey ?? LOL.. Sheesh, every time you open your ass
and fart, something ignorant blossoms..


Ken Conner

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"Bill Walker" <bill.w...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Usually named Bill and Dusty.

Grumpy au Contraire

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Jun 12, 2004, 1:23:50 PM6/12/04
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Mike Smith wrote:
>
> On 12 Jun 2004 01:22:46 -0600, anon...@nyx.nyx.net (Name withheld to
> protect the reputation of the DC school district) wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Lone Star Loonies Jake Bernstein and Dave Mann
> > Salon.com
> >
> > June 11, 2004 | On the first night of the Texas Republican state
> > convention last week, there were plenty of receptions to attend.
> > Instead, almost 200 delegates and visitors chose to file patiently
> > into a room in the Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center in downtown San
> > Antonio for the meeting of the Permanent Platform Committee. The next
> > two and half hours would be one of their few opportunities to
> > influence the party's ideology.
> >
>
> > This state party, in fact, is the crucible in which Karl
> > Rove helped craft the presidency of George W. Bush.
>
> Ahhhh... The "devil's" name invoked for the emotional value...
>
> > It is the home of
> > U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land.
>
> Ummmmm.... No.
> That would be in Sugarland...
>


Um no, that would be Sugar Land.


http://www.ci.sugar-land.tx.us/

--
JT

Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4

Grumpy au Contraire

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Jun 12, 2004, 1:26:47 PM6/12/04
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Dusty Rhodes wrote:
>
>


snip


"...3 digits IQs..."


Duz dat 'ave sumptin' to do w' fingers???

Mike Smith

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Jun 12, 2004, 1:32:51 PM6/12/04
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:26:47 GMT, Grumpy au Contraire
<Gru...@doofis.FAKEcom> wrote:

>
>
>Dusty Rhodes wrote:
>>
>>
>
>
>snip
>
>
>"...3 digits IQs..."
>
>
>Duz dat 'ave sumptin' to do w' fingers???

Of course it does.... He is up to using 3 digits when he counts. His
family is hoping he will eventually be able to use all 5 digits on one
of his hands...

Mike Smith

Mike Smith

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Jun 12, 2004, 1:40:01 PM6/12/04
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I'm getting the biggest kick out of all the fuss over Sugarland vs
Sugar Land...

It is hilarious.

Imagine if I had gotten something of substance wrong in one of my
posts, The cacophony would be deafening!

Way funny.

MIke Smith

Jeffrey E. Salzberg

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Jun 12, 2004, 1:52:14 PM6/12/04
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In article <nifmc09o1s9ip9fcq...@4ax.com>, m...@wt.net
says...

> Imagine if I had gotten something of substance wrong in one of my
> posts, The cacophony would be deafening!

More like "business as usual".

Now, if you got something of substance *right*....

Brooks Gregory

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Jun 12, 2004, 4:28:39 PM6/12/04
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"Dusty Rhodes" <crustydusty1@THIS PARThotmail.com> wrote in message
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Dusty, here's something you probably already knew but just in case, I'll
clue you in. The sleaziest element on these ngs would have more integrity in
their shit than you do in your entire family tree. Now, go away phony.

--
Brooks Gregory


Brooks Gregory

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"Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <spammer...@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b350cd62...@news.comcast.giganews.com...

You're not much more credible than that phony that calls himself Dusty. You
make irrational bets and when you get called on them you slink away.


--
You're wasting your time with your bitching.
Only 54% of Americans vote. That vote is
split pretty evenly. That means only 25%
favor a particular issue. So there is a very
strong possibility that 75% of Americans
don't give a shit about your complaint.

Brooks Gregory


George Kerby

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On 6/12/04 3:28 PM, in article XHJyc.17434555$Of.28...@news.easynews.com,
"Brooks Gregory" <brooks...@sbctelco.com> wrote:

'Pothole' has SUCH a way of making friends, doesn't he?!?

Did you know he claims to be a Writer who was an Understudy of Dale
Carnegie?


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Patrick Lee Humphrey

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Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

>On 12 Jun 2004 07:01:26 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
>wrote:

>>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

>>>On 12 Jun 2004 01:22:46 -0600, anon...@nyx.nyx.net (Name withheld to
>>>protect the reputation of the DC school district) wrote:

>>>> Lone Star Loonies Jake Bernstein and Dave Mann
>>>> Salon.com

>>>> June 11, 2004 | On the first night of the Texas Republican state
>>>> convention last week, there were plenty of receptions to attend.
>>>> Instead, almost 200 delegates and visitors chose to file patiently
>>>> into a room in the Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center in downtown San
>>>> Antonio for the meeting of the Permanent Platform Committee. The next
>>>> two and half hours would be one of their few opportunities to
>>>> influence the party's ideology.

>>>> This state party, in fact, is the crucible in which Karl
>>>> Rove helped craft the presidency of George W. Bush.

>>>Ahhhh... The "devil's" name invoked for the emotional value...

>>Worship the Chimp in Chief all you want to. No one else is required to do as
>>you do.

>Ummmm.. Try to keep up.... The liberal's "devil" is Rove.

Why are you telling me? I've never been a liberal. (Then again, I'm one of
those Goldwater Republicans, and the current chimp running the Republican
Reich probably considers that to be a legal offense.)

>>>> It is the home of
>>>> U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land.

>>>Ummmmm.... No.
>>>That would be in Sugarland...

>>Thanks for your admission that you don't live anywhere near Houston -- as
>>someone on the southwest side, I get frequent reminders that the suburb just
>>down the road from me is Sugar Land. It's only had that name since at least
>>the day I pedaled out there as a ten-year-old, and that's going on four
>>decades ago.

>DAMN! Is that all you have to whine about......

If you can't be bothered to even sweat the small details, why should anyone
give you credence on the large details?

Mike Smith

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Jun 12, 2004, 8:40:36 PM6/12/04
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On 12 Jun 2004 16:32:23 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
wrote:

Ummm// You do realize I never accused you of being a liberal, right?
Re-read my statement and try to read for substance, this time.

>
>>>>> It is the home of
>>>>> U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land.
>
>>>>Ummmmm.... No.
>>>>That would be in Sugarland...
>
>>>Thanks for your admission that you don't live anywhere near Houston -- as
>>>someone on the southwest side, I get frequent reminders that the suburb just
>>>down the road from me is Sugar Land. It's only had that name since at least
>>>the day I pedaled out there as a ten-year-old, and that's going on four
>>>decades ago.
>
>>DAMN! Is that all you have to whine about......
>
>If you can't be bothered to even sweat the small details, why should anyone
>give you credence on the large details?


If you get totally confused when someone posts Sugarland instead of
Sugar Land, then anything I post will probably confuse you, including
the fact that I've been in the Houston area for over 54 years.

Mike Smith

Mitchell Holman

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Jun 12, 2004, 10:00:57 PM6/12/04
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Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> wrote in news:rb6mc0l3pjgisk68gajhkn9ujkbi3sitkj@
4ax.com:


Hey, YOU are the one who posted a spelling
flame that proved to be WRONG. If you cannot defend
your own posts, whose fault is that?


Mike Smith

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Jun 12, 2004, 11:07:13 PM6/12/04
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:00:57 GMT, Mitchell Holman
<ta2eene...@comcast.com> wrote:

Huh? What are you babbling about?
What spelling flame?

Mike Smith

Patrick Lee Humphrey

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Jun 13, 2004, 12:38:06 AM6/13/04
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Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

>>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

>>>>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

The Republican Reich? *substance*? I'm sorry, bit I'm a native of THIS
planet...and I'm not liberal, unless you go back to 1770s definitions.

>>>>>> It is the home of
>>>>>> U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land.

>>>>>Ummmmm.... No.
>>>>>That would be in Sugarland...

>>>>Thanks for your admission that you don't live anywhere near Houston -- as
>>>>someone on the southwest side, I get frequent reminders that the suburb
>>>>just down the road from me is Sugar Land. It's only had that name since
>>>>at least the day I pedaled out there as a ten-year-old, and that's going
>>>>on four decades ago.

>>>DAMN! Is that all you have to whine about......

>>If you can't be bothered to even sweat the small details, why should anyone
>>give you credence on the large details?

>If you get totally confused when someone posts Sugarland instead of
>Sugar Land, then anything I post will probably confuse you, including
>the fact that I've been in the Houston area for over 54 years.

...and you're about as knowledgable about it as a newcomer.

Mike Smith

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Jun 13, 2004, 7:13:10 AM6/13/04
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On 12 Jun 2004 23:38:06 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
wrote:

What are you babbling about?

>


>>>>>>> It is the home of
>>>>>>> U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land.
>
>>>>>>Ummmmm.... No.
>>>>>>That would be in Sugarland...
>
>>>>>Thanks for your admission that you don't live anywhere near Houston -- as
>>>>>someone on the southwest side, I get frequent reminders that the suburb
>>>>>just down the road from me is Sugar Land. It's only had that name since
>>>>>at least the day I pedaled out there as a ten-year-old, and that's going
>>>>>on four decades ago.
>
>>>>DAMN! Is that all you have to whine about......
>
>>>If you can't be bothered to even sweat the small details, why should anyone
>>>give you credence on the large details?
>
>>If you get totally confused when someone posts Sugarland instead of
>>Sugar Land, then anything I post will probably confuse you, including
>>the fact that I've been in the Houston area for over 54 years.
>
>...and you're about as knowledgable about it as a newcomer.

uh-huh......

Does Hale & Shella ring any bells?

Mike Smith

Dusty Rhodes

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Jun 13, 2004, 9:00:11 AM6/13/04
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George Kerby wrote:

> Did you know he claims to be a Writer who was an Understudy of Dale
> Carnegie?

Hey, moron, what, exactly, is the hilariously ridiculous major mental
malfunction that causes you to stupidly believe "writer" and "understudy"
are somehow proper nouns?

George Kerby

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On 6/13/04 8:00 AM, in article vdYyc.11083$ar2....@fe2.texas.rr.com, "Dusty
Rhodes" <crustydusty1@THIS PARThotmail.com> wrote:

You would not know a proper noun from a hole in your head. Too bad there
isn't one...

Brooks Gregory

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"Dusty Rhodes" <crustydusty1@THIS PARThotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vdYyc.11083$ar2....@fe2.texas.rr.com...

> George Kerby wrote:
>
> > Did you know he claims to be a Writer who was an Understudy of Dale
> > Carnegie?
>

He claims to be a lot of things except what he really is. A phony, a failure
and a mental midget. Maybe you misunderstood him. You sure he didn't say
"underside"?


--
Brooks Gregory


Dusty Rhodes

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Jun 13, 2004, 12:05:43 PM6/13/04
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George Kerby wrote:
> On 6/13/04 8:00 AM, in article vdYyc.11083$ar2....@fe2.texas.rr.com,
> "Dusty
> Rhodes" <crustydusty1@THIS PARThotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> George Kerby wrote:
>>
>>> Did you know he claims to be a Writer who was an Understudy of Dale
>>> Carnegie?
>>
>> Hey, moron, what, exactly, is the hilariously ridiculous major mental
>> malfunction that causes you to stupidly believe "writer" and
>> "understudy"
>> are somehow proper nouns?
>>
>> Sheesh, what a maroon...

> You would not know a proper noun from a hole in your head. Too bad
> there
> isn't one...

Ah, so it's plain vanilla stupidity that causes you to habitually make such
stunningly dumb errors, just as it appears.

Cheers,

Dusty


Patrick Lee Humphrey

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Jun 13, 2004, 4:48:54 PM6/13/04
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Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

>>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

>>>>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

>>>>>>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

Why didn't you stay awake in class?

>>>>>>>> It is the home of
>>>>>>>> U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land.

>>>>>>>Ummmmm.... No.
>>>>>>>That would be in Sugarland...

>>>>>>Thanks for your admission that you don't live anywhere near Houston -- as
>>>>>>someone on the southwest side, I get frequent reminders that the suburb
>>>>>>just down the road from me is Sugar Land. It's only had that name since
>>>>>>at least the day I pedaled out there as a ten-year-old, and that's going
>>>>>>on four decades ago.

>>>>>DAMN! Is that all you have to whine about......

>>>>If you can't be bothered to even sweat the small details, why should anyone
>>>>give you credence on the large details?

>>>If you get totally confused when someone posts Sugarland instead of
>>>Sugar Land, then anything I post will probably confuse you, including
>>>the fact that I've been in the Houston area for over 54 years.

>>...and you're about as knowledgable about it as a newcomer.

>uh-huh......

>Does Hale & Shella ring any bells?

You mean the two guys who were teammates with Ray Larose, Poul Popiel, Gordon
Kannegiesser, Frank Hughes, Keke Mortson, Gordon Labossiere, Murray Hall, Ed
Hoekstra, Frank Hughes, Duncan McCallum, Don Grierson, Don McLeod, and Wayne
Rutledge among others? (Some of us *were* at that first Aeros game on October
12, 1972, you know.)

Mike Smith

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Jun 13, 2004, 8:14:54 PM6/13/04
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On 13 Jun 2004 15:48:54 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
wrote:

Why do you keep repeating that you're not a liberal when I never
accused you of being a liberal?

>
>>Does Hale & Shella ring any bells?
>
>You mean the two guys who were teammates with Ray Larose, Poul Popiel, Gordon
>Kannegiesser, Frank Hughes, Keke Mortson, Gordon Labossiere, Murray Hall, Ed
>Hoekstra, Frank Hughes, Duncan McCallum, Don Grierson, Don McLeod, and Wayne
>Rutledge among others? (Some of us *were* at that first Aeros game on October
>12, 1972, you know.)

Damn... I thought it was '74....
No... That's when I started playing.

Mike Smith
"Some people think I'm simplistic,but there's a difference
between being simplistic and being simple.
My theory of the Cold War is that we win and they lose.
What do you think about that?"
Governor Ronald Reagan, 1977

Patrick Lee Humphrey

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Jun 13, 2004, 11:59:57 PM6/13/04
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Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

>>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

>>>>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

>>>>>>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

>>>>>>>>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

Why should I be interested in who you think the liberals' demon is or should
be?

>>>Does Hale & Shella ring any bells?

>>You mean the two guys who were teammates with Ray Larose, Poul Popiel,
>>Gordon Kannegiesser, Frank Hughes, Keke Mortson, Gordon Labossiere, Murray
>>Hall, Ed Hoekstra, Frank Hughes, Duncan McCallum, Don Grierson, Don McLeod,
>>and Wayne Rutledge among others? (Some of us *were* at that first Aeros
>>game on October 12, 1972, you know.)

>Damn... I thought it was '74....

October '74 was the start of their last season at the Coliseum, and the first
NHL-WHA pre-season game was held there, where we were introduced to the Kid
Line -- Terry Ruskowski, Don Larway, and Rich Preston. Ruskowski is currently
the head coach of the defending CHL champion Laredo Bucks, Larway works for
the media production company handling Toyota Center events, and Preston came
within 60 minutes of a Stanley Cup ring last Monday night as an assistant
coach with the Calgary Flames.

>No... That's when I started playing.

At least you got to start -- I made a run at learning to skate, but I had to
make do with the alleged sheet at the Galleria, which would have been wrecked
by a hockey game, so I settled for being a rabid Aeros fan...and 30-odd years
later, I haven't changed in that regard.

Mike Smith

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Jun 14, 2004, 6:18:02 AM6/14/04
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On 13 Jun 2004 22:59:57 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
wrote:

You appeared to mistakenly think it was our Commander in Chief. I
corrected you, by informing you about Rove. And it's not what I think.
It is a standard liberal rant. Rove is their devil.

>
>>>>Does Hale & Shella ring any bells?
>
>>>You mean the two guys who were teammates with Ray Larose, Poul Popiel,
>>>Gordon Kannegiesser, Frank Hughes, Keke Mortson, Gordon Labossiere, Murray
>>>Hall, Ed Hoekstra, Frank Hughes, Duncan McCallum, Don Grierson, Don McLeod,
>>>and Wayne Rutledge among others? (Some of us *were* at that first Aeros
>>>game on October 12, 1972, you know.)
>
>>Damn... I thought it was '74....
>
>October '74 was the start of their last season at the Coliseum, and the first
>NHL-WHA pre-season game was held there, where we were introduced to the Kid
>Line -- Terry Ruskowski, Don Larway, and Rich Preston. Ruskowski is currently
>the head coach of the defending CHL champion Laredo Bucks, Larway works for
>the media production company handling Toyota Center events, and Preston came
>within 60 minutes of a Stanley Cup ring last Monday night as an assistant
>coach with the Calgary Flames.
>
>>No... That's when I started playing.
>
>At least you got to start -- I made a run at learning to skate, but I had to
>make do with the alleged sheet at the Galleria, which would have been wrecked
>by a hockey game, so I settled for being a rabid Aeros fan...and 30-odd years
>later, I haven't changed in that regard.

What about Winterland, Ice Haus, and Sharpstown rinks? I remember
going to Galleria once or twice, but I learned how to skate at
Winterland and played at Ice Haus. After they closed, I went to
Sharpstown. I was in the rank amateur league. (rank = we stunk!)

Patrick Lee Humphrey

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Jun 14, 2004, 7:31:12 AM6/14/04
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Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

>On 13 Jun 2004 22:59:57 -0500, Patrick Lee Humphrey <pat...@io.com>
>wrote:

>>Mike Smith <m...@wt.net> writes:

[major hack, slash, and delete, but Wes McCauley's the referee, and since when
does he pay attention to the game?]

>>>Why do you keep repeating that you're not a liberal when I never
>>>accused you of being a liberal?

>>Why should I be interested in who you think the liberals' demon is or should
>>be?

>You appeared to mistakenly think it was our Commander in Chief. I
>corrected you, by informing you about Rove. And it's not what I think.
>It is a standard liberal rant. Rove is their devil.

Well, a new Lider Maximo will result in a few changes, and given the current
situation, those changes would have a high probability of being better than
the charade we've got now.

[the Coolest Game on Earth returned two years earlier, and I've been following
it ever since]

>>>Damn... I thought it was '74....

>>October '74 was the start of their last season at the Coliseum, and the
>>first NHL-WHA pre-season game was held there, where we were introduced to
>>the Kid Line -- Terry Ruskowski, Don Larway, and Rich Preston. Ruskowski is
>>currently the head coach of the defending CHL champion Laredo Bucks, Larway
>>works for the media production company handling Toyota Center events, and
>>Preston came within 60 minutes of a Stanley Cup ring last Monday night as an
>>assistant coach with the Calgary Flames.

>>>No... That's when I started playing.

>>At least you got to start -- I made a run at learning to skate, but I had to
>>make do with the alleged sheet at the Galleria, which would have been wrecked
>>by a hockey game, so I settled for being a rabid Aeros fan...and 30-odd years
>>later, I haven't changed in that regard.

>What about Winterland, Ice Haus, and Sharpstown rinks? I remember
>going to Galleria once or twice, but I learned how to skate at
>Winterland and played at Ice Haus. After they closed, I went to
>Sharpstown. I was in the rank amateur league. (rank = we stunk!)

I'd probably have the complete set of false teeth now, had I not gotten into
getting my BA after a major switch halfway through at UH...and it's almost
amazing to consider that the oldest sheet of ice (at least, for playing hockey
on) in Houston now is a block and a half down the street from me at
Sharpstown. Back in the '70s, the Ice Haus would have been a lot closer, but
it and Winterland got melted by the dark age that arrived with the 1980s. It
wasn't until pro hockey came back to town ten years ago that the renaissance
started, and at least there's five arenas (with six rinks total) in the area
now.

(The bad news: it's still 123 days until the puck drops on the new season.
The guys down the street better keep an eye on their Zamboni.)

Tracey..--

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Jun 20, 2004, 12:19:08 PM6/20/04
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Has anyone heard if malt liquor sold well on Juneteenth?

We know that Miller Lite sells very well around Cinco De Mayonase.

Can anyone describe the flavor of Colt 45 Malt Liquor?

THX

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> Has anyone heard if malt liquor sold well on Juneteenth?
>
> We know that Miller Lite sells very well around Cinco De Mayonase.
>
> Can anyone describe the flavor of Colt 45 Malt Liquor?
>
I can't...but it must be absolutely fabulous lol..I mean, anything that can
stand you out on a corner begging to afford another, must be somethin!

-thx


r5

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Jun 21, 2004, 2:07:30 PM6/21/04
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The ugly racist tracey wrote:
> Has anyone heard if malt liquor sold well on Juneteenth?

yawn...

T R A C E Y..--.

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Jun 21, 2004, 10:21:33 PM6/21/04
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Its now racist to talk about malt liquor???
Crazy Commies have so little to complain about.

T R A C E Y..--.

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Jun 21, 2004, 10:23:43 PM6/21/04
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HAHAHAHA! Thats funny!

r5

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Jun 22, 2004, 4:05:00 AM6/22/04
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"T R A C E Y..--." <trace...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Its now racist to talk about malt liquor???

What a CHOAD.

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