U.S. govt surrenders TEXAS to MEXICO

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dudalb

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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Hell, i would be in favor of giving the Whole of Texas back to Mexico except
the Mexicans are too smart to take it.....

dudalb

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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But no matter what, Mexico has got to take the Dallas Cowboys.....

dudalb

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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I just notices this guys plea for funds at the bottom.....I smell SCAM
here.....

refor...@my-deja.com

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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US govt surrenders TEXAS to MEXICO
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The U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION is attempting to
allow a Mexican railroad to take over the SOUTH ORIENT
railroad from Presidio to San Angelo, Texas. in effect,
surrendering Texas Sovereignty to Mexico!!!

Mike Idrogo has PETITIONED to challenge and revoke such
authority. "If we allow this to happen now.. we will lose
all of our infrastructure (and our Sovereignty).. foreign
companies will begin to own large sections of TEXAS and
UNITED STATES land."

I ASK THAT EACH OF YOU JOIN in petitioning the Department
of Transportation by signing a statement that you
too "SEEK TO REVOKE AUTHORITY IN ORDER TO KEEP Grupo
Mexico S.A. de C.V., a Mexican Railroad Company, FROM
TAKING OVER THE South Orient rail line (Presidio to San
Angelo, Texas)." (Mail such a SIGNED petition to me so
that I may include it with the filing to revoke such
authority..

MICHAEL IDROGO
317 W. ROSEWOOD AVE
SAN ANTONIO, TX 78212

-- please also include a $10 or $20 contribution.. to
help cover expenses and filing fees to fight off Grupo
Mexico S.A. de C.V.). THANKS!

Sincerely,
Michael Idrogo


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Ragnar (no, not THE Ragnar)

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Wow, a "foreign" company will own a piece of land and a business in
America. Can't have that. I mean, they might pack up and take it back
to Mexico or something.

Wait a minute, isn't Britain (another foreign place) the largest non-US
owner of property in the US? And don't we (the USA) own huge amounts of
foreign property (gasp) in other countries?

Sorry, I don't see the excitement.

Panhead

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Doug Berry wrote:

>
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 06:24:30 GMT, a butterfly in Costa Rica
> flapped its wings, causing refor...@my-deja.com to write:
>
> >US govt surrenders TEXAS to MEXICO
>
> Good riddance. Except for Austin. Can we keep Austin?

Possibly, for the time being.

Dick Casaly

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<refor...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> US govt surrenders TEXAS to MEXICO
Who gets G.W. Bush?

James D. Nicholson

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Doug Berry wrote:
>
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 06:24:30 GMT, a butterfly in Costa Rica
> flapped its wings, causing refor...@my-deja.com to write:
>
> >US govt surrenders TEXAS to MEXICO
>
> Good riddance. Except for Austin. Can we keep Austin?

That's the part to give away . . . Berkeley Annex.

--
Jim Nicholson - http://www.tsra.com/
Gore chose to follow in the footsteps of his boss, and politicize the
tragedy. Speaking at a New Jersey high school, Gore stated, "One of the
lessons of Columbine is that we have to stand up to the NRA and the gun
industry...."

John A. Stovall

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:03:08 GMT, grid...@mindspring.com (Doug Berry)
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 06:24:30 GMT, a butterfly in Costa Rica
>flapped its wings, causing refor...@my-deja.com to write:
>
>>US govt surrenders TEXAS to MEXICO
>
>Good riddance. Except for Austin. Can we keep Austin?

No! Berkeley on the Brazos should be the first to go.


*****************************************************

Chance proposes. Death disposes.

African Genesis
Robert Ardrey

Panhead

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Doug Berry wrote:
>
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:19:52 -0400, a butterfly in Costa Rica
> flapped its wings, causing Panhead <Panmy...@intac.com> to
> write:

>
> >Doug Berry wrote:
>
> >> Good riddance. Except for Austin. Can we keep Austin?
> >
> >Possibly, for the time being.
>
> Cool.. I'll tell you what, in exchange for Austin, we'll give
> Mexico Los Angeles.

Tell you what.
Let's negotiate the town, ANY TOWN that Al Sharpton lives or
resides in, OK?

Wesley Horton

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Your statement:

Hell, i would be in favor of giving the Whole of Texas back to Mexico
except
the Mexicans are too smart to take it.....

Oh, hell, that's a really smart thing to post on a news group called
Texas guns. I think that the statement is analogous to yelling "Fire"
in a crowed theatre.

Wesley Horton


SMS Mike

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Hate to bust your bubble, friend, but LOTS and LOTS of Foreign
Nations own HUGE chunks of United States Land. Japan alone owns over
half of our Timber Rights! There is no law against selling U.S. land
to Foreign Nations..

However, welcome to the party; albeit about 30 years too late!
--

- Mike Eglestone -

I was thrown out of college for cheating on the metaphysics exam.
I looked into the soul of the guy next to me.
---

SMS Mike

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Jorge Leos

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Where is all this anger coming from?
jleos.vcf

redrum

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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In article <390c5af8...@news.mindspring.com>,
grid...@mindspring.com says...

>
>On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:19:52 -0400, a butterfly in Costa Rica
>flapped its wings, causing Panhead <Panmy...@intac.com> to
>write:
>
>>Doug Berry wrote:
>
>>> Good riddance. Except for Austin. Can we keep Austin?
>>
>>Possibly, for the time being.
>
>Cool.. I'll tell you what, in exchange for Austin, we'll give
>Mexico Los Angeles.

Why not, all the residents there are Mexican citizens anyway.


Glenn Dickson

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The United States is not doing a very good job of running its railroads.
Why not let a mexican company give it a try? Or are you a railroad expert
that could do better????


"Ragnar (no, not THE Ragnar)" wrote:

> Wow, a "foreign" company will own a piece of land and a business in
> America. Can't have that. I mean, they might pack up and take it back
> to Mexico or something.
>
> Wait a minute, isn't Britain (another foreign place) the largest non-US
> owner of property in the US? And don't we (the USA) own huge amounts of
> foreign property (gasp) in other countries?
>
> Sorry, I don't see the excitement.
>
> refor...@my-deja.com wrote:
>

> > US govt surrenders TEXAS to MEXICO

rgoldy

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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You may certainly keep Austin so far as I am concerned. I would prefer
however that you move it to
New York state so that it would fit better in the political climate.

"> > Good riddance. Except for Austin. Can we keep Austin?
>

.
>
>

James D. Nicholson

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dudalb wrote:
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> But no matter what, Mexico has got to take the Dallas Cowboys.....

Well, at least Jerry Jones.

Volcano

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Glenn Dickson wrote:
>
> The United States is not doing a very good job of running its railroads.
> Why not let a mexican company give it a try? Or are you a railroad expert
> that could do better????
>

Might as well, the KCM&O (Kansas City, Mexico and Orient) Railroad
has been mismanaged since its inception. Never did extend the
track to Kansas City, over a decade behind schedule crossing into
Mexico, and never did carry the Orient trade.

--
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/ \
/ \ Volcano

Randy Howard

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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In article <39193aae...@news.mindspring.com>, grid...@mindspring.com
says...

> On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 06:24:30 GMT, a butterfly in Costa Rica
> flapped its wings, causing refor...@my-deja.com to write:
>
> >US govt surrenders TEXAS to MEXICO
>
> Good riddance. Except for Austin. Can we keep Austin?

Austin would be the one part of Texas which would be good to
see out of here. They don't call it "Moscow on the Colorado"
for nothing.

--
Randy Howard

d'geezer

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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"Ragnar (no, not THE Ragnar)" wrote:
>
> Wow, a "foreign" company will own a piece of land and a business in
> America. Can't have that. I mean, they might pack up and take it back
> to Mexico or something.
>
> Wait a minute, isn't Britain (another foreign place) the largest non-US
> owner of property in the US? And don't we (the USA) own huge amounts of
> foreign property (gasp) in other countries?
>
> Sorry, I don't see the excitement.
>
No, we certainly do not own huge amounts of land in Mexico. One has to
create a legal fiction or become a citizen to own Mexican land. Most
countries do not allow the foreign ownership of land without heavy
restriction not placed on citizens. There is a very real danger in
allowing foreign ownership. Many kinds of abuses can take place,
including protection of illegal activity. If the land owner has the same
rights of ownership accorded citizens then they might deny entry. Not a
good thing. d'geezer

--
"We have a government that believes that an inauguration was a
coronation."

RD Thompson, 2000

d'geezer

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Glenn Dickson wrote:
>
> The United States is not doing a very good job of running its railroads.
> Why not let a mexican company give it a try? Or are you a railroad expert
> that could do better????
>
> "Ragnar (no, not THE Ragnar)" wrote:
>
> > Wow, a "foreign" company will own a piece of land and a business in
> > America. Can't have that. I mean, they might pack up and take it back
> > to Mexico or something.
> >
> > Wait a minute, isn't Britain (another foreign place) the largest non-US
> > owner of property in the US? And don't we (the USA) own huge amounts of
> > foreign property (gasp) in other countries?
> >
> > Sorry, I don't see the excitement.
>

Contract yes, ownership no. Simple concept and tends to keep folks
honest. d'geezer

d'geezer

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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SMS Mike wrote:
>
> Hate to bust your bubble, friend, but LOTS and LOTS of Foreign
> Nations own HUGE chunks of United States Land. Japan alone owns over
> half of our Timber Rights! There is no law against selling U.S. land
> to Foreign Nations..
>
> However, welcome to the party; albeit about 30 years too late!
> --
>
> - Mike Eglestone -

Nice to have you back Mike. Right on target of course. The Tsongas
National Forest in SW Alaska is nearly gone, all under a contract with
Japan to help rebuild after W.W.II. The Tsongas was the largest
Temperate Rain forest in the world. We practically gave it away to Japan
the prices were so low, locked in, I believe, at about 1950 prices.

Other nations to not reciprocate when it comes to allowing us ownership
of their lands. By the way, want to guess which country holds the most
mining rights to gold bearing lands in the US? Let's say the winning
side in the American Revolution is not winning in that area. I hear they
have other major interests in mining natural resources in this country.

Here is a piece of useless but interesting trivia. The stone in Princess
Diana's engagement ring came from a mine owned by Canadian interests
from a place called Yogo Gulch in Montana. Probably one of the biggest
Yogo corundums ever mined from that locale and unavailable from anywhere
else in the world, a pale blue with extremely brilliant highlights, the
Yogo Gulch stones are sapphire. This one a gift to the Royal family from
the Canadian owners. d'geezer

PS Don't ask me how I know all this, atwood might figure out why I
carried so much armament at one time in my former professional life. d'g

Larry K

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Apr 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/24/00
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In article <uDCMPQXr$GA.227@cpmsnbbsa03>, "dudalb" <dud...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> But no matter what, Mexico has got to take the Dallas Cowboys.....
>
>

Nah. They have a big enough crime problem as it is.

--
There is no reality -- only perception

Dick Casaly

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"d'geezer" <d'geezer@d'geezer.net> wrote in message
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> "Ragnar (no, not THE Ragnar)" wrote:
> >
> > Wow, a "foreign" company will own a piece of land and a business in
> > America. Can't have that. I mean, they might pack up and take it back
> > to Mexico or something.
> >
> > Wait a minute, isn't Britain (another foreign place) the largest non-US
> > owner of property in the US? And don't we (the USA) own huge amounts of
> > foreign property (gasp) in other countries?
> >
> > Sorry, I don't see the excitement.
> >
> No, we certainly do not own huge amounts of land in Mexico. One has to
> create a legal fiction or become a citizen to own Mexican land. Most
> countries do not allow the foreign ownership of land without heavy
> restriction not placed on citizens. There is a very real danger in
> allowing foreign ownership. Many kinds of abuses can take place,
> including protection of illegal activity. If the land owner has the same
> rights of ownership accorded citizens then they might deny entry. Not a
> good thing. d'geezer

Excuse me, but isn't that what search warrants are for? Foreign ownership
of American real estate does not impart some sort of diplomatic immunity to
the real estate. Only official government operation such as Embassies and
Consulates are entitled to diplomatic immunity.

Dick Casaly

Don Albertson

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Apr 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/24/00
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Doug Berry wrote:
> Maybe many people dislike the whole "Texas attitude" that we have
> to deal with?

A friend of mine from England (Bristol to be precise) tells a story
which may illustrate the matter. It seems there was a Texan who was
living in Bristol. He was a large man, well over 2 metres and weighing
better than 10 stone. He found fault with just about everything which
wasn't the way it was in Texas. He died and the undertaker had a
difficult time finding a coffin large enough to hold the body until he
called it quits, gave the dead Texan an enema, and buried him in a
shoebox.

There are things that Texans can learn from people outside of Texas but
before anyone can learn, they first have to admit that they don't have
all the answers. And there are a lot of Texans who seem to have
difficulty with that idea. Or maybe just have a lot more bluster which
makes it seem that way.

Joe Long

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Don Albertson wrote:

Excellent point.

Personally, I would expand Texas to apply to all Towns, States, Countries
and Continents. Obviously "all" people from Texas are not as closed minded
and biased as what has been illustrated in the previous posts. However, we
all see this attitude from persons everyday of the week and throughout the
world, not just in Texas. Sure there are a lot of Texans that need to be
able to admit they don't have all the answers... but this is also true of
people everywhere in the world... I am not defending anyone, especially
from Texas... just agreeing and expanding upon your stated point...

jgl

Jerry P

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Apr 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/24/00
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I don't think actual governments own much in the US, but citizens of
other countries and corporations based in other countries do. Chrysler
is owned by the Germans, several newspapers (and S&W) by the British,
but the nationality with the largest dollar-stake in the US is (I
believe) Holland. HOLLAND? The DUTCH?

Yes. The company is called Royal Dutch Shell.


Ragnar (no, not THE Ragnar) <rwo...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Wow, a "foreign" company will own a piece of land and a business in
> America. Can't have that. I mean, they might pack up and take it
back
> to Mexico or something.
>
> Wait a minute, isn't Britain (another foreign place) the largest
non-US
> owner of property in the US? And don't we (the USA) own huge amounts
of
> foreign property (gasp) in other countries?
>
> Sorry, I don't see the excitement.
>

> refor...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > US govt surrenders TEXAS to MEXICO

Jerry P

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Man goes up to the ticket counter in Juarez:

Man: "Has the noon train to Mexico City arrived yet?"
Agent: "No, Senor."

Man buys a ticket. Thirty minutes later, the train puffs in. Man tries
to board.

Conductor: "I'm sorry, Senor, this ticket, she is no good."
Man: "Isn't this the train to Mexico City?"
Conductor: "Si, Senor."
Man: "Well, what's the problem?"
Conductor: "Your ticket is for today's train. This train is
YESTERDAY'S train. Today's train won't be here until tomorrow."

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Don Robinson

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It's too bad everyone can't live in Texas.

Custom Knives by
Don Robinson
http://home.att.net/~don-robinson.ce/

"Don Albertson" <dgal...@pdq.net> wrote in message
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> Doug Berry wrote:
> > Maybe many people dislike the whole "Texas attitude" that we have
> > to deal with?
>
> A friend of mine from England (Bristol to be precise) tells a story

> which may illustrate the matter. (SNIP)

kcaj...@hate.com

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>> Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:58:52 -0500, Don Albertson <dgal...@pdq.net> wrote:


For a taste of the genuine Texas, go to

http://www.khyi.com

Click on the spinning C.D. disk and listen.

This is rated as one of the best in America. You can also get this on
the B.B.C. but I don't know if its better then this or not.

BillDing

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:58:52 -0500. Don Albertson <dgal...@pdq.net>
used up all three tries to find his - or was it her - ass, despite
being equipped with flashlight and roadmap; the assless fingers found
the keyboard instead, resulting in:

> It seems there was a Texan who was
>living in Bristol. He was a large man, well over 2 metres and weighing
>better than 10 stone.

Hmmmmm... well, 6'7" is tall, but I wouldn't go so far as to
categorize someone that tall weighing 140 pounds as "large"...
scrawny, maybe, but not large.

Dick Casaly

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"BillDing" <carp...@construction.net> wrote in message
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Maybe the 10 stone was a reference to the thickness of the Texan's head.
;o)

A New Yawk kind of guy

Don Albertson

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