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THE NATIONAL GUARD IS THE WELL-REGULATED MILITIA OF THE SEVERAL STATES

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nraclaptrap

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May 13, 2009, 5:37:26 PM5/13/09
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Benj <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote in news:0b8d67b3-ac62-4fb1-bfdb-
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The United States Supreme Court and 10 USC 101(c)(2)(4) says the National
Guard is the militia, but you're just a little too stupid to figure it
out even after we show you the true facts.

[begin cite]

The National Guard is the modern Militia reserved to the
States by Art. I, section 8, cl. 15, 16, of the
Constitution. [footnote 8] It has only been in recent years
that the National Guard has been an organized force, capable
of being assimilated with ease into the regular military
establishment of the United States. From the days of the
Minutemen of Lexington and Concord until just before World
War I, the various militias embodied the concept-of a
citizen army, but lacked the equipment and training
necessary for their use as an integral part of the reserve
force of the United States Armed Forces. [footnote 9]

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8. "The Congress shall have Power ...

"To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the
Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel
Invasions: "To provide for organizing, arming, and
disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of
them as may be employed in the Service of the United States
reserving to the States respectively the Appointment of the
Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia
according to the discipline prescribed by Congress."

9. See generally, Wiener, The Militia Clause of the
Constitution, 54 Harv. L. Rev. 181 (1940).

Maryland v United States (1965)

[end cite]

I win again. Blowjobacoby loses again...

POINT PROVEN!


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MB

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May 13, 2009, 8:47:38 PM5/13/09
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Mr. clap,

Who, then, are 'the people'?
See: "... the right of the people ..."; in amendments 1, 2, 4, etc.
A different definition depending upon which amendment?
You lose again and at the top of your lungs.

MB


Klaus Schadenfreude

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May 13, 2009, 9:02:11 PM5/13/09
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In talk.politics.guns nraclaptrap <nracl...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Benj <bja...@iwaynet.net> wrote in news:0b8d67b3-ac62-4fb1-bfdb-
>79a89a...@o30g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>The United States Supreme Court and 10 USC 101(c)(2)(4) says the National
>Guard is the militia,

No, it doesn't. You're a liar.

The Lone Weasel

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May 13, 2009, 9:12:10 PM5/13/09
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On May 13, 7:47 pm, "MB" <mb_ae...@att.net> wrote:


> Who, then, are 'the people'?

[begin definitions up your nose]

PEOPLE. A state; as, the people of the state of New York; a
nation in its collective and political capacity. 4 T. R.
783.
See 6 Pet. S. C. Rep. 467.

- Bouvier Law Dictionary

people. The state: the nation: any consolidated political
body. United States v Three Friends. 166 US 1. 41 L Ed 897.
17 S Ct 495.

- Ballentine's Law Dictionary, Third Edition

people, a state; as the people of the state of New York. A
nation in its collective and political capacity.

- Black's Law Dictionary

[end definitions up your nose]

> See: "... the right of the people ..."; in amendments 1, 2, 4, etc.
> A different definition depending upon which amendment?

Same definition, you just don't know it. See above.

> You lose again and at the top of your lungs.

You lose because you're ignorant of the framing and ratification of
the US Constitution, while Tony "Baloney" Scalia is certainly not
ignorant, but gave you mostly wrong answers anyway.

Cavendum est a fragmentis. Beware of fragments. Bacon, Aph.
26.

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Yours truly,

The Lone Weasel


The Lone Weasel

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May 13, 2009, 9:16:25 PM5/13/09
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On May 13, 8:02 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
wrote:


> >The United States Supreme Court and 10 USC 101(c)(2)(4) says the National
> >Guard is the militia,
>
> No, it doesn't. You're a liar.

Bobby Frenchu is the perfect gunloon. He doesn't believe a word he
says; nor should we.

Mr. Albritton

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May 13, 2009, 9:46:29 PM5/13/09
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> The United States Supreme Court and 10 USC 101(c)(2)(4) says the
> National Guard is the militia, but you're just a little too stupid to
> figure it out even after we show you the true facts.

???

The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard,
which was created 130 years later, in 1917.


Klaus Schadenfreude

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May 13, 2009, 9:46:44 PM5/13/09
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In talk.politics.guns The Lone Weasel <thelon...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On May 13, 8:02�pm, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>> >The United States Supreme Court and 10 USC 101(c)(2)(4) says the National
>> >Guard is the militia,
>>
>> No, it doesn't. You're a liar.
>

>Bobby Frenchu is the perfect gunloon. He doesn't believe a word I
>say; nor should he.

I can't help it you're a compulsive liar, Lee.

edi...@netpath.net

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May 13, 2009, 11:56:06 PM5/13/09
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Is half the North Carolina Army National Guard really deployed
thousands of miles from here in Iraq because any part of this state's
government wanted them called up for a year each and sent to be
substitute-Regular-Army troops so far from this state? Is the Guard
really any "militia" for this state - or just part of the regime's
Army? If you enlist in the Guard, are you really doing anything other
than enlisting in the Army and volunteering for Iraq?

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nraclaptrap

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May 14, 2009, 12:26:27 AM5/14/09
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"edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote in news:d64679ba-fa75-49b2-
8456-3df...@e23g2000vbe.googlegroups.com:

> Is half the North Carolina Army National Guard really deployed
> thousands of miles from here in Iraq because any part of this state's
> government wanted them called up for a year each and sent to be
> substitute-Regular-Army troops so far from this state?

Blame Cheney/Bush for abusing the well-regulated militia. If you dumb
gunfuckers hadn't been so obsessed with your own abundant gun rights you
might have noticed your National Guard was under assault from Cheney/Bush.

It never occurred to you that tearing down the National Guard - which is
necessary to the security of a state - would be a bigger threat to our
security than any fake WMDs. You must really hate this country, eh
BEDWETTER?


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The Dog

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May 14, 2009, 6:31:22 PM5/14/09
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"Mr. Albritton" <albri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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What do facts have to do with anything, I mean if someone choses to ignore
the intent of what T. Jefferson and friends meant when they talked about
wanting a strong state government and a weak federal government and to make
sure the federal government stayed in line they included the 2nd amendment.
Back then you and your neighbors were the militia when ruffians came to call
in the dead of night. But since then the spineless have decided they are
willing to give up all freedom and depend on a feral government to protect
them. We know from reading our history books how well that has worked.


The Lone Weasel

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May 14, 2009, 11:13:50 PM5/14/09
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Tell us who has power to organize the well-regulated militia, Mr.
Allbrittle.

This would be the United States Constitution ratified in 1789.

Does the US Constitution say that you ALLBRITTLE have power to
organize the well-regulated militia?

No, it doesn't.

So who has power to name the organized militia?

That constitutional well-regulated militia organizer, the US Congress.

Not you. Them.

The Lone Weasel

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May 14, 2009, 11:43:14 PM5/14/09
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You had to be enrolled in the well-regulated militia or some volunteer
militia, to be in the militia. Just being neighbors wasn't enough to
be in the militia. Usually the ruffians attacked one farm miles from
any others - most Early Americans lived in rural areas - so you'd be
dead and the ruffians would be long gone with your guns and food and
livestock and maybe your women, and maybe in a week or two somebody
would find your rotting corpse and then tell the militia.

And your wife never told on the ruffians because they were better than
you in every way.

Mr. Albritton

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May 16, 2009, 12:17:15 AM5/16/09
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>> The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard,
>> which was created 130 years later, in 1917.
>
> What do facts have to do with anything, I mean if someone choses to
> ignore the intent of what T. Jefferson and friends meant when they
> talked about wanting a strong state government and a weak federal
> government and to make sure the federal government stayed in line
> they included the 2nd amendment. Back then you and your neighbors
> were the militia when ruffians came to call in the dead of night. But
> since then the spineless have decided they are willing to give up
> all freedom and depend on a feral government to protect them. We
> know from reading our history books how well that has worked.

I know that, and you obviously know that.
(Jefferson's intent.)
But the rest of the nation has conveniently forgotten that.

For a great deal of people, you must slap them in the face with cold hard
facts.... just to get their attention.
After you have their attention, MAYBE you can have an intellegent
conversation.


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