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Micah Sifry

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Jun 17, 2009, 1:53:26 PM6/17/09
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Dave and everyone else:

Is there a way to tweak Twittervision to just show tweets using a hashtag like #iran?

Or, is someone else doing something like that already?

Hard not to think of what's happening in Iran now as a wildly messy version of "Iraq Vote Report."

I'm looking for a cool way to show this phenomenon visually at PdF...

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Jon Pincus

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Jun 17, 2009, 2:04:46 PM6/17/09
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Great idea.  I'm not aware of anybody showing location of Iran-related tweets, and particularly if we can get the information over time it's likely to show lots of people changing their location to Tehran.

#iranelection and #gr88 are the hashtags.

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Tracy Viselli

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Jun 17, 2009, 2:44:03 PM6/17/09
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As long as you don't make the location more specific than, say, a city.
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Britt Blaser

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Jun 17, 2009, 3:55:11 PM6/17/09
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I would run this by Ev at Twitter who, we know, has a contact at the state department or maybe Susan Crawford. This is no game.  
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Andrew Turner

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Jun 17, 2009, 4:17:25 PM6/17/09
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There are 3 devs working on it and definitely could use some more help.

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Allison Fine

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Jun 17, 2009, 5:20:50 PM6/17/09
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I wanted to echo Tracy's email that we ought to be extraordinarily careful that we aren't putting any in jeopardy with any of our efforts. 

Dave Troy

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Jun 17, 2009, 8:03:52 PM6/17/09
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Kaushal and Andrew are working on this as part of the Swift River
project.

I am hoping to take a look at their work on Sunday but am booked with
travel & events through Saturday.

Agreed on the need for care with respect to locations, however we
would not be exposing any information that is not publicly accessible
through Twitter.

Best,
Dave

Andrew Turner

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Jun 17, 2009, 9:00:32 PM6/17/09
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Indeed - in fact while I would be *ecstatic* to have Twitter folk help
- it seems like their being out of band is better in terms of
transparency and security. We're not adding any additional information
that isn't already being shared, just tagging/marking it up to better
understand it in aggregate.

Dave - it would be great to have a deep dive with you as soon as
possible. Understand just got back from GOAP and BarCampB'more - I fly
out on Tuesday night so if we could chat on Sunday/Monday would be
superb.

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> Best,
> Dave
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Andy Carvin

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Jun 17, 2009, 9:30:40 PM6/17/09
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And as always, please let me know what I can do to help. -andy

Kaushal Jhalla

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Jun 17, 2009, 9:35:42 PM6/17/09
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Thanks Dave,
 
Andrew is leading the development effort and is working overtime to define what gaps need to be met, who does what & how we can get a working prototype for Iran up asap.
 
To address the concern of what information should and should not be exposed --> we large part of our team comes from the crisis response background at Ushahidi and understand the need to protect privacy esp. in a crisis. We have dealt with sensitive crowdsorced efforts in kenya, DRC Congo, Mumbai Elections and recently the Gaza & so have a keen understanding of why this is necessary.
 
What is interesting about this twitter crowd following the Iran election is its self regulating in near real time adopting standards to stay relevant. Cory Doctrow even published an 'unoficial manifesto' for this revolution on BiongBoing based on what the crowds were saying.
 
Also, must I add that there is a clear need to disseminate signal from noise from what is being said on the ground in Iran -- Iranis want us to listen to what is being said on the ground -- that's why they are on twitter. I may even add that the map is a nice visualization but just being able to identify the TOP 10 things the crowd is saying using swift is a great value add.
 
What do we need? Well, this is a crowdsourced effort. We have 'sweepers' who have a deep understanding of the region. The crowd is rising & we know they have embraced twitter. What we need is developers who understand the platform and are willing to take what was learnt with the VoteReport effort & help drive the next phase of this journey. We need developers dedicated to seeing this come to life.
 
If you want to help, get a hold of either Andrew or Me & we will plug you in right away.
 
Kaushal
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Andy Carvin

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Jun 17, 2009, 9:38:13 PM6/17/09
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re: sweepers who know the region, you may want to reach out to Global Voices Online. They have a number of editors who speak Farsi. Also, if this were done more as a journalistic effort as opposed to an pro-protester advocacy effort, I could probably use the bully pulpit of NPR to recruit volunteers. Unfortunately, if the project ends up being more activist-oriented rather than journalistic it, all I could offer is to potentially cover it as a story rather than participating in a material fashion.

andy


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Thanks Dave,

Andrew is leading the development effort and is working overtime to define
what gaps need to be met, who does what & how we can get a working prototype
for Iran up asap.

To address the concern of what information should and should not be
exposed --> we large part of our team comes from the crisis response
background at Ushahidi <http://ushahidi.com/> and understand the
need to protect privacy esp. in a crisis. We have dealt with sensitive
crowdsorced efforts in kenya, DRC Congo, Mumbai Elections and recently the
Gaza & so have a keen understanding of why this is necessary.

What is interesting about this twitter crowd following the Iran election is
its self regulating in near real time adopting standards to stay relevant.
Cory Doctrow even published an 'unoficial
manifesto<http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/cyberwar-guide-for-i.html>'
winmail.dat

Andy Carvin

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Jun 17, 2009, 10:01:17 PM6/17/09
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Is anyone aware of secondary hashtags being used in Iran to refine information, like we did w/ votereport?




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Andrew Turner

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Jun 17, 2009, 10:21:50 PM6/17/09
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No, there hasn't been any push to suggest a tag vocabulary for the
Iran elections. It would be great to be able to define these things
and quickly set in an admin interface and then promote in the
community.

I would think perhaps even just a generic set of tags to suggest for
crisis events (definitely should have been a session at CrisisCampDC -
perhaps CrisisCampNYC or CrisisCampSF!)

Micah Sifry

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Jun 17, 2009, 10:23:12 PM6/17/09
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Andrew and Dave--

Any chance something will be ready by PdF, in ten days?

again, I'm not looking for a perfect app ... more aiming here for
something that demonstrates how much attention #iran is getting in
real time...

Micah

Andy Carvin

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Jun 17, 2009, 10:29:20 PM6/17/09
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One potential problem: cory doctorow and others have been advocating that people _not_ use additional tags as to avoid diluting things. But I think there are tags like #1sthand for firsthand account, #msm for news source, plus location-related tagging would make sense - if it's not too late to inject it into the discussion. Katrin Verclas might have some useful insight on the matter, as she strongly advocated sub-tags during #mumbai if I remember correctly.

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Andy Carvin

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Jun 17, 2009, 10:32:27 PM6/17/09
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isn't there a tag they've been using to say "please don't retweet this?" something like #v? or am I misremembering that?



ac


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Andrew Turner

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Great ideas - where do we want to capture this simple vocabulary (and
then put in the copy for the site as well)?

Andrew Turner

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Jun 17, 2009, 10:40:28 PM6/17/09
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On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Micah Sifry<msi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Andrew and Dave--
>
> Any chance something will be ready by PdF, in ten days?
>
> again, I'm not looking for a perfect app ... more aiming here for
> something that demonstrates how much attention #iran is getting in
> real time...

Yes - I hope so. At the very least we could do some visualizations to
show the potential here - and also discuss the impacts/lessons of the
other VoteReports.

>
> Micah
>
> On Jun 17, 1:53 pm, Micah Sifry <msi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dave and everyone else:
>>
>> Is there a way to tweak Twittervision to just show tweets using a hashtag
>> like #iran?
>>
>> Or, is someone else doing something like that already?
>>
>> Hard not to think of what's happening in Iran now as a wildly messy version
>> of "Iraq Vote Report."
>>
>> I'm looking for a cool way to show this phenomenon visually at PdF...
>>
>> Micah
>>
>> --
>> PdF2009 is June 29-30 in NYC: Register nowhttp://www.personaldemocracy.com/conference
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Andy Carvin

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Jun 17, 2009, 10:40:34 PM6/17/09
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sounds like we need a wiki. :-) Meanwhile I've dm'ed Katrin about secondary tag use to see if she's aware of any. Will post publicly too.

ac



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Andrew Turner

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Jun 17, 2009, 10:42:00 PM6/17/09
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Worthwhile capturing in the existing TVR wiki

Andy Carvin

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Jon Pincus

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Jun 17, 2009, 11:05:13 PM6/17/09
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other than #helpiranelection (pointing people to a site to turn their avatar green) i haven't seen any significant secondary tag usage.   terms like "disinformation" show up so it might be better to do a free-form search rather than hashtag-based.

also, most Farsi tweets don't include any of the hashtags

Andy Carvin

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Jun 17, 2009, 11:11:46 PM6/17/09
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that was actually my next question - are Farsi tweets including tags, or are they at least predictable in certain terms, such as 1388, "Iran election" in Farsi, etc.

                                On Jun 17, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Tracy Viselli <myrnat...@gmail.com> <mailto:myrnat...@gmail.com>


                                wrote:
                               
                                       

                                        As long as you don't make the location more specific than, say, a
                                        city.
                                       
                                        On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Jon Pincus

Jon Pincus

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not sure ... Twazzup's Farsi search is probably as good a starting place as any http://iran.twazzup.com/search?q=&l=fa -- and it's got a few Farsi searches at the top (on the right-ish side)


Kaushal Jhalla

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Here is a list of Tags being used:
 
Twitter Hashtags:
#iran
#iran9
#iranelections
#iran09
#mousavi
#Ahmadinejad
#gr88
#iran99
 
Also, I have been collecting a list of bloggers, Newspapers, Flickr accounts + a list of top twitterers on the Iran Crisis? Is this the forum to share this? Andrew Turner has access to the Google doc.
 
Furthermore, my friend at Meedan has been pushing an effort to translate tweets into Farsi/English -- they have a pool of translators working round the clock and I can get a feed from them if necessary but that's a stage 2 -- currently there is enough people tweeting or retweeeting in English that needs attention.
 
To Andy's point -- our role or the sweepers role should be non-partisan & just report facts. Infact for the first release I suggest we recruit sweepers carefully. I doubt it's in our interest or intent to take an activist role -- this neither helps the platform nor those on the ground -- activism is best left to those outside the system & we just present the facts in near real time. 
 
Cheers & thanks for stepping up folks. Andrew, Dave, Andy, Micah, Jon and the votereport team. You are all great.
 
Kaushal
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Sze Wong

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Hi all,

I am considering to donate my data collection platform for Haiti Disaster Recovery effort. Basically I can create a platform (like Vote Report) for people to send in information from Haiti. I can do that immediately without the need to get through Apple as I already have a generic data collection app in the App Store.

I can then feed the data to Andrew Turner at GeoCommon for display and further analysis.

Wanted your opinion on a few things:
- Should I do this? (I mean will it help?)
- Who can help letting people know?
- What should we let people collect? (Photo, voice, story, etc.)

If we move ahead I want to send it out by the end of the day so any info/opinion/comment will be great.

Thanks.

Sze Wong
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Andy Carvin

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Hi Sze,

That's really kind of you to offer that - thanks! Before you do this you should check with the CrisisCommons mobile app team to see what they're working on already.

http://crisiscommons.org/Mobile-Apps

They're coordinating app rollout for all the projects we've been working on this week, so they'd know best who'd want to use it - Ushahidi, for example.

Thanks,
ac


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Sze, what you're talking about sounds good. Another idea -- would there be any value in approaching Apple about a paid app (of some kind) where all of the proceeds would go to Haiti?

Might give Apple an opportunity to shine a positive light on the app store + gain some exposure.

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Sze Wong

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Great. I will coordinate with Crisis Common.
Anybody going to the camps?

Sze

Andy Carvin

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I'm planning to host the DC CrisisCamp at NPR this Saturday.

Sze Wong

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Cool I will see you then.

Sze Wong

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Alright, I have created an account for Haiti Support.

Users can download the iPhone App called: exZact Lite
Use Survey ID: haiti10

Any groups or volunteers who want to create forms and reports please contact me.
Data feeds are in XML and JSON so we can mash up with other data.
I will open up the data feeds and the map view shortly.


I have just built a basic form in this account and here is a quick movie about it.
http://www.explorebefore.com/media/HaitiSupport.mov

Andy, I will see you Saturday.

Thanks.

Sze


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Andy Carvin

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Hi Sze,

You really should post this to the Haiti online volunteer groups, as I don't think many of them are members of this list.

General discussion:
http://groups.google.com/group/haiti-quake2010
Map team:
http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers
Missing Persons team:
http://groups.google.com/group/personfinder

thanks,

Chris Blow

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FYI I will be working -- sweeping -- on saturday with a bunch of other
people at the portland crisis camp.

is anyone working on vote report for haiti mapping?

- we have a strong sweeper-style workflow worked out at Ushahidi haiti
HQ in boston. We are using a bunch of different tools, not the Swift/
VR codebase unfortunately -- our new developer Jon Gosier is working
with a php prototype that I hope will be ready for nontechnical
volunteers on saturday.
- we are also organizing volunteers around http://dev.haitianquake.com/converter/
- hackers are needed generally.
- there are 13 camps happening, there may be one in your town: please
see http://crisiscommons.org
- here is a few minutes of CNN on how ushahidi is working:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/tech/2010/01/19/barnett.haiti.coordinating.online.cnn

- Also there is a coordination call for twitter hacking in 35 minutes
at 9 PST.

> Conference line: 619/276-6333 code 411911


best

c

Andy Carvin

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We aren't doing vote report Haiti per se since ushahi and
crisismappers have taken the lead on all the necessary maps. People
should join the crisismappers list to participate.

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On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:27 PM, "Chris Blow" <cgb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> FYI I will be working -- sweeping -- on saturday with a bunch of
> other people at the portland crisis camp.
>
> is anyone working on vote report for haiti mapping?
>
> - we have a strong sweeper-style workflow worked out at Ushahidi
> haiti HQ in boston. We are using a bunch of different tools, not the

> Swift/VR codebase unfortunately -- our new developer Jon Gosier is

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