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this is my second year in junior high school.
this is my second year in high school.
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my senior of high school/junior high school
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8th grader=國中二年級
junior=高中二年級
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im now at my 2nd year of junior high (國二)
im not at my 2nd year of senior high (高二)
這是比較正式的說法吧*
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> im now at my 2nd year of junior high (國二)
>
> im not at my 2nd year of senior high (高二)
...in.....[Not "at".]
It sounds more natural to say, "I am in THE second year..." [instead of
"my"], but "my" is also correct.
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> ※ 引述《juhaa...@bbs.wretch.cc (Vanity Fair)》之銘言:
>> ※ 引述《newli...@bbs.ee.nthu.edu.tw (Good job!
>> )》之銘言:
>> > 現在就讀國中二年級, 高中二年級,
>> > 請問分別應該要怎麼說呢???
>> this is my second year in junior high school. this is my second year in
>> high school.
>
>
> my senior of high school/junior high school
I am a senior. = I am in the last year of high school. Also = I will
graduate from college/high school this year.
When you say "I am a senior"(w/o any context), could it also mean that
you're a senior citizen in your country? Thx for the help.
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> ¡° ¤Þz¡mjim...@ms74.hinet.net (Jim Walsh)¡n¤§»Ê¨¥¡G
>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:35:00 +0000, å° å° æ ¡æŒ thought
>> carefully and wrote:
>> > ※ 引述《juhaa...@bbs.wretch.cc (Vanity
>> > Fair)》之銘言:
>> > my senior of high school/junior high school
>> I am a senior. = I am in the last year of high school. Also = I will
>> graduate from college/high school this year.
>
> When you say "I am a senior"(w/o any context), could it also mean
> that you're a senior citizen in your country? Thx for the help.
Well, if you look 65 years old, and say, "I am a senior" it means that.
If you are a teenager, and say, "I am a senior", it doesn't mean that.
In other words, the age of the speaker is sufficient context.
BTW, except for tests, sentences are almost never "without context". This
is another way "test English" is not like real life English.
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> 現在就讀國中二年級, 高中二年級, 請問分別應該要怎麼說呢???
I'm in the second grade of junior / senior high school.
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國二 grade 8
高二 grade 11
i.e. I'm a grade 8 student.
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> ※ 引述《newli...@bbs.ee.nthu.edu.tw (Good job! )》之銘言:
>
>> 現在就讀國中二年級, 高中二年級,
>> 請問分別應該要怎麼說呢???
>
> I'm in the second grade of junior / senior high school.
American count all 12 years. They don't start over at 1 in Junior High.
Here is one example (there are several systems in the USA):
Primary School: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
Junior High School: 7, 8
High School: 9, 10, 11, 12.
The second year of Junior High is the 8th grade. The second year of Senior
High is the 10th grade.
Here is another system used in the USA.
Primary School: 1, 2, 3, 4
Middle School: 5, 6, 7, 8 [No Junior High at all.]
High School: 9, 10, 11, 12.
The term "grade 8" is usually used by school administrators, educational
researchers and other professionals and scholars connected to education.
Most people, and almost all students, say "8th grade".
"I'm an 8th grade student."
How about saying "I'm an 8th grader?" Would it be alright? TIA.
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I thought "grade 8" and "8th grade" denote the same meaning, at least
similar to some extent, like "floor 2" and "2nd floor." Appreciated.
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I agree.
The basic rule is "an ordinal number precedes the noun (first floor; first
grade, first book) and a cardinal number follows the noun (floor one,
grade one, book one)".
I feel a slight preference for the ordinal + noun structure.
> ※ 引述《cnelso...@hotmail.com (Peacenik)》之銘言:
>> "清泉崗陸戰66旅" <sapphi...@bbs.cs.nthu.edu.tw> wrote in
>> message news:4GjR5h$G...@bbs.cs.nthu.edu.tw...
>> > 國二 grade 8
>> > 高二 grade 11
>> > i.e. I'm a grade 8 student.
>> The term "grade 8" is usually used by school administrators,
>> educational researchers and other professionals and scholars connected
>> to education. Most people, and almost all students, say "8th grade".
>> "I'm an 8th grade student."
>
> I thought "grade 8" and "8th grade" denote the same meaning, at
> least similar to some extent, like "floor 2" and "2nd floor."
> Appreciated.
Yes. You are right. I guess it is more common (as a speech habit) to say
"second floor".
> ※ 引述《cnelso...@hotmail.com (Peacenik)》之銘言:
>> "清泉崗陸戰66旅" <sapphi...@bbs.cs.nthu.edu.tw> wrote in
>> message news:4GjR5h$G...@bbs.cs.nthu.edu.tw...
>> > 國二 grade 8
>> > 高二 grade 11
>> > i.e. I'm a grade 8 student.
>> The term "grade 8" is usually used by school administrators,
>> educational researchers and other professionals and scholars connected
>> to education. Most people, and almost all students, say "8th grade".
>> "I'm an 8th grade student."
>
> How about saying "I'm an 8th grader?" Would it be alright?
Yes. It is right.
> ¡° ¤Þz¡mjim...@ms74.hinet.net (Jim Walsh)¡n¤§»Ê¨¥¡G
>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:09:54 +0000,
>> 清泉崗陸戰66旅 thought carefully and wrote:
>> > ※ 引述《cnelso...@hotmail.com
>> > (Peacenik)》之銘言:
>> > I thought "grade 8" and "8th grade" denote the same meaning, at
>> > least similar to some extent, like "floor 2" and "2nd floor."
>> > Appreciated.
>> Yes. You are right. I guess it is more common (as a speech habit) to
>> say "second floor".
>
> Bunch of thanks, Jim.
My pleasure.
Thanks a bunch, Jim.
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Yes, but "8th grade" is far more common among students and ordinary people.
"grade 8" is mostly used by professionals in the field of education, and has
a more "clinical" sound to it.
Yes, it would be all right.
With respect to schools in Taiwan: Don't use "grade" in the above statement;
instead use "year".
"I'm in my second year in high school."
You see, if you say "I'm a 2nd grader in high school", it sounds like you're
trying to say "I'm a 2nd-year ELEMENTARY school student in high school". It
paints a picture of an 8-year-old kid attending high school... very strange.
Also, there is no need to use "senior" in "high school".
in America.
Agree.
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As "grade" to America, so is "year" to Taiwan.
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In Taiwan, people tend to draw a line between 8th grade and 9th grade
to mark distinction of the so-called "senior" and "junior" high schools
whereas in America such terms don't really exist. It could be attributed
much to the cultural differneces and/or schooling systems between the two
nations.
It's not to my surprise that people have been having confusions over
these schooling terms since day one.
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> In Taiwan, people tend to draw a line between 8th grade and 9th
> grade to mark distinction of the so-called "senior" and "junior"
> high schools whereas in America such terms don't really exist.
Agree. My oldest son went to school where the Junior High consisted of
7th, 8th, and 9th grades (the high school of course consisted of 10th thru
12th.
Meanwhile my youngest son's Junior High consisted of 7th and 8th ONLY.
And I went to a school where grades 7th thru 12th were in the same
building.
Traditionally, in America, "junior high school" is 7th and 8th grade, while
"high school" is 9th - 12th. Some school districts differ, though.
I went to junior high in 7th and 8th grade; then went to another school for
9th grade; then high school for 10th - 2th grade.