NewsCorp close to deal with Yankees' TV channel

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Bob in Jersey

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Nov 15, 2012, 4:00:33 PM11/15/12
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James Murdoch, whose WWOR-TV sublets part of the MLB team's telecasts from YES Network, also sits on parent Yankees Global Enterprises' board... News would be taking over a minority stake now held by investment firms such as Goldman Sachs...

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Mark Jeffries

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Nov 15, 2012, 5:26:49 PM11/15/12
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Doesn't News Corp. own SNY with Comcast, or does Comcast own all of that channel?  I know Cablevision owns all of MSG.

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Brad Beam

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Nov 15, 2012, 5:48:29 PM11/15/12
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Jeffries

>Doesn't News Corp. own SNY with Comcast, or does Comcast own all of that
>channel? I know Cablevision owns all of MSG.

Wiki (via Retuers) breaks it down thus:
65% Mets
27% Time-Warner
8% NBCUniversal=>Comcast

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/19/us-baseball-mets-madoff-idUSTRE72I2SQ20110319

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Bob in Jersey

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Nov 15, 2012, 10:12:18 PM11/15/12
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Yet, doesn't SNY look like one of the CSN gang?

FWIW, some writer on investment site TheStreet.com (not CNBC's Cramer) is pestering Murdoch to go after MSG...

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Greg Diener

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Nov 16, 2012, 10:36:04 PM11/16/12
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It pretty much is.
 
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Bob in Jersey

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Nov 20, 2012, 5:02:57 PM11/20/12
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The deal is done, the Times quotes sources, and even the Yanks will end up with a smaller stake... you can start envisioning that Fox Sports bug over that of YES in the corner...

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Mark Jeffries

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Nov 20, 2012, 6:27:39 PM11/20/12
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Not necessarily--Big Ten Network has no Fox branding, and neither do Sun Network in the southeast or Prime Ticket in LA, which News Corp. owns with Comcast.

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On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Bob in Jersey <bob.in...@juno.com> wrote:
The deal is done, the Times quotes sources, and even the Yanks will end up with a smaller stake... you can start envisioning that Fox Sports bug over that of YES in the corner...


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Jim Ellwanger

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Nov 20, 2012, 7:28:26 PM11/20/12
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On Nov 20, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Mark Jeffries wrote:

> Not necessarily--Big Ten Network has no Fox branding, and neither do Sun Network in the southeast or Prime Ticket in LA, which News Corp. owns with Comcast.

True that there is no Fox branding on BTN -- the main clue that it has any connection to Fox is a suspiciously high amount of promos for Fox broadcast network programming, as well as other Fox channels.

However, since the two baseball teams I watched on TV most often in 2012 were the Rays and the Dodgers...

As of the September 1 change to the Fox RSN logo bugs, there is very obvious Fox branding on both Prime Ticket and Sun Sports (not "Sun Network"). Here's the Prime Ticket version of the bug:

http://i.imgur.com/gpEPk.jpg

Even before the logo bug change, though, live events on Prime Ticket began with this (sorry, video recorded by someone's cell phone):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkR5YDSh06k

Can't find the Sun Sports version online, but it's "We are Fox Sports, we are Sun Sports," not the obvious "we are Florida."

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Bob in Jersey

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Nov 20, 2012, 9:24:05 PM11/20/12
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Mark Jeffries, to moi:
Not necessarily--Big Ten Network has no Fox branding, and neither do Sun Network in the southeast or Prime Ticket in LA, which News Corp. owns with Comcast.

BTN is owned 51% by the conference and 49% by Fox.

When did CMCSA buy into PT and SUN?

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M-D November

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Nov 20, 2012, 11:11:13 PM11/20/12
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If I read the original post correctly, the Yankees organization still has the majority share of the network - and in the Boss's domain, NOTHING gets branded over the Yankees.

NO-THING.

televisiongirl

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Nov 23, 2012, 4:45:49 PM11/23/12
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On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:11 PM, M-D November <mdnov...@gmail.com> wrote:
If I read the original post correctly, the Yankees organization still has the majority share of the network - and in the Boss's domain, NOTHING gets branded over the Yankees.

NO-THING.


And that's why they play at Yankee Stadium and not Chase Park or Toyota Stadium.

TVG 

Joe Hass

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Nov 30, 2012, 9:16:02 PM11/30/12
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Deadspin suggests that part of this may be the Yankees cashing out their profits from Yes and minimizing their risk for the obvious sports rights bubble popping that's coming.

John Malone's no dummy. He sees what everyone else sees right now. That said, I don't see the Feds intervening for the simple reason that there's no prudent interest (or political push) to make a change. Hell: the Feds seized the athde.com domain at the request of the leagues and cable companies, which just made them move to a non-US domain.

Add to this the fact that Maryland and Rutgers are moving to the Big Ten for the sole purpose of suckling off the big teat that is the Big Ten Network, because there's absolutely no logical sports reason (and to make matters worse, Nate Silver pointed out that those markets aren't even particularly strong college sports fan bases).

I don't have the stats in front of me, but I can tell you that the ad load for the F1 US Grand Prix had a significant number of DR spots in them, and this is for a sport that NBCSN just tripled their rights fees for earlier this year. And Fox was still too damn cheap to fly Bob, Steve, and David from Charlotte to Austin to call it live!

The pop's comin' folks. And it's going to destroy organized sports as we know it. Except for the NFL: they'll kill themselves because football will die.

On Nov 20, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Bob in Jersey <bob.in...@juno.com> wrote:

The deal is done, the Times quotes sources, and even the Yanks will end up with a smaller stake... you can start envisioning that Fox Sports bug over that of YES in the corner...

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Bob in Jersey

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Dec 1, 2012, 3:47:51 PM12/1/12
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Joe Hass, to moi, in part:
Deadspin suggests that part of this may be the Yankees cashing out their profits from Yes and minimizing their risk for the obvious sports rights bubble popping that's coming.

Can we consider them as the sports equivalent of rightie big-mouths like Beck and Limbaugh?
 
The pop's comin' folks. And it's going to destroy organized sports as we know it. Except for the NFL: they'll kill themselves because football will die.

I'll bet there are still people in this nation who think pro athletes should have to work "normal" jobs in the offseason.

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