NFL moves back start time for afternoon games part of televised doubleheaders to 4:25 p.m.

[Tom Wolper]

This is not only going to affect football fans but anybody annoyed by
delays to the start of evening programs in the fall:

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2012/06/nfl_moves_back_start_time_for.html

The NFL has moved back the starting time for afternoon games that are
part of a FOX or CBS doubleheader. Previously, the games began at 4:15
p.m., now they will start at 4:25 p.m so that there is less overlap
between the beginning of those games and the end of the 1 p.m. games.

Afternoon games that are not a part of televised doubleheader will
still kickoff at 4:05 p.m.

The goal is to allow viewers to see the end of the earlier game and
not be whisked away to the start of the home-market late game that
networks must switch to. A study done by the NFL saw that 44 games
over the last three seasons were affected. With a 4:25 p.m. start
time, only 15 games would have been switched over.

Their estimation was that 40 games would be impacted during the
upcoming 2012 season, half coming in the Mountain or Pacific time
zones.

[Bob in Jersey]

Tom Wolper, in part:

The NFL has moved back the starting time for afternoon games that are
part of a FOX or CBS doubleheader. Previously, the games began at 4:15
p.m., now they will start at 4:25 p.m so that there is less overlap
between the beginning of those games and the end of the 1 p.m. games.

They'd better start seriously rethinking that post-game lineup.

Those late games are not suddenly going to get time-efficient, even with P. Manning now in Denver.

Put 60 at 8 e/p, and push something else back to midseason.



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BOB

[M-D November]

Personally,I could live with only one cycle of TAR per season.That would solve the problem.

[David Risner]

I don't see the issue. Who watches TV, other than sports, live anymore anyway?

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[David Lynch]

On 30 June 2012 12:03, David Risner <da...@risner.org> wrote:
> I don't see the issue. Who watches TV, other than sports, live anymore anyway?

1. DVRs still don't handle sports-related delays to programming very
well. The only thing to do is pad and then fast forward, but either
way you end up with programming that you weren't really interested in
recording taking up space on the drive and/or taking up a tuner that
you might prefer to have set to something else.

2. Sunday night has a pile-up of good TV. With the DVR schedule I had
during the spring, I would have had to lose something if CBS had run
more than an hour late, because it would have pushed the end of The
Amazing Race past 10 PM ET, when I already had two other shows set to
record. As it was, I was recording the same-night reruns of a couple
cable shows in order to get everything recorded.

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[PGage]

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:03 AM, David Risner <da...@risner.org> wrote:

I don't see the issue. Who watches TV, other than sports, live anymore anyway?

I don't even watch sports live; with the exception of the Super Bowl, and maybe the NBA Finals if the Lakers are in them, we always time shift at least 30 - 45 minutes to build up enough "green" to FF commercials.

I don't like this move though - better to take steps to keep most NFL games under 3 hours. Short of OT or unforseen interruptions, there really is no reason for a football game to go longer than 3 hours; I presume this move is a cover for boarting more commercials.

[Bob in Jersey]

David Risner, to M-D November:

I don't see the issue. Who watches TV, other than sports, live anymore anyway?

People who think DVR costs too much. Which it might.



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BOB

[Jim Ellwanger]

On Jun 30, 2012, at 4:01 PM, PGage wrote:

> I presume this move is a cover for boarting more commercials.

I haven't heard of the NFL increasing commercial time allowed during games this season. But I can see the extra 10 minutes having some effect on the commercials during the late games on the doubleheader network. Since commercials can't be run in the doubleheader late games until all that network's early games are over, the extra time allotted for the early games to end should result in the commercials during the late games being spread out better -- that is, there should be fewer instances of late games that have commercial-free first quarters and commercial-packed second quarters.

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[JW]

> I haven't heard of the NFL increasing commercial time allowed during games
> this season.

Neither have I, but don't new TV contracts kick in next year?

I'm a little surprised they don't just start games at 1 and 4:30
Eastern. Although I suppose that NBC wants to see the live games end
as early as possible so as not to compete with FNIA.

[David Risner]

I don't see why they can't move the first game of the day back half an
hour or even an hour. Will less people watch games starting at 9am or
9:30am instead of 10am? Or noon instead of 1pm if one is on the East
Coast?

I, personally, would rather have it start earlier. I could then more
easily watch the first game, go out for the afternoon, and watch the
second game in the evening when I got home.

PS: I also don't actually watch NFL games live. I wait until they've
been going for a while so I can skip the repeats of every play and the
commercials. That 30-second skip button is perfect for skipping to the
next play as soon as a play is over.

--
David Risner

[JW]

> I don't see why they can't move the first game of the day back half an
> hour or even an hour. Will less people watch games starting at 9am or
> 9:30am instead of 10am? Or noon instead of 1pm if one is on the East
> Coast?

Into the 1970s, the Baltimore Colts couldn't start their games before
(I think) 2:15 by city ordinance so that people could attend church
beforehand.