Clint on Chrysler Super Bowl Ad: Not Obama Campaigning

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Mark Jeffries

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Feb 7, 2012, 4:35:30 PM2/7/12
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According to an interview with one of Billo's producers (which I
suspect was an ambush interview)--the ad was intended to be a general
pep talk for the nation:

http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/clint-eastwood-super-bowl-ad-im-not-obamas-puppet-35149

Karl Rove's "Chicago machine" remark can be answered this way--the
President grew up in the Hyde Park neighborhood, historically left of
the Daley machine (pere et fils) and throughout his career has
seemingly purposely not aligned himself with the blue dog Democrat
Daley machine. Of course, Rove is hoping that his audience is
exclusively talk radio listeners andd FNC watchers.

David Bruggeman

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Feb 7, 2012, 6:05:47 PM2/7/12
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There's been a general tone to Chrysler's ads for a few months about how Detroit and Chrysler were both getting out of a long struggle/slump and are back to kick ass.  I believe one featured Mr. Suh of the Detroit Lions (I'm sure to butcher his first name), and maybe Eminem was involved with one at last year's Super Bowl (or at least his music).  The major differences here, IMO, are that the message went broader and the spokesman is much better known.  You still don't know it's for Chrsyler until the last few seconds.

David


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PGage

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Feb 7, 2012, 9:48:46 PM2/7/12
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM, David Bruggeman <bru...@yahoo.com> wrote:
There's been a general tone to Chrysler's ads for a few months about how Detroit and Chrysler were both getting out of a long struggle/slump and are back to kick ass.  I believe one featured Mr. Suh of the Detroit Lions (I'm sure to butcher his first name), and maybe Eminem was involved with one at last year's Super Bowl (or at least his music).  The major differences here, IMO, are that the message went broader and the spokesman is much better known.  You still don't know it's for Chrsyler until the last few seconds.

IT does go back at least as far as last year's Super Bowl, with the Eminem ad:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlJbqMv-HeQ

Which was also a very striking and powerful commercial. This year's was even more powerful, but I think it also had more impact simply because Detroit has come back even more.

I frankly don't blame the Republicans for being pissed, I thought the Clint add was about as powerful an Obama commercial as I could ever hope for. The things conservatives (and, not a few liberals) have been bashing the president for over the last 2.5 years have paid off, and the corner is being approached and about to be turned. If Apple had done a "Morning in America" commercial in 1984 I certainly would have been bummed - nothing illegal or immoral about it, just pissed that it would be so damn effective.

Bob in Jersey

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Feb 7, 2012, 10:45:33 PM2/7/12
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Ironically, Mr Suh's ad only ran in one game, straightaway after he
was kicked out of it for stomping a Green Bay player from which he was
trying to untangle himself.



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David Bruggeman

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Feb 7, 2012, 11:00:38 PM2/7/12
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Pretty sure it ran outside of NFL telecasts, as I think I've seen Mr. Suh's ad a few times (he goes home to visit Mom, if I remember correctly).

Initially I was persuaded that the opposition was mainly about Clint Eastwood being involved, mainly because I don't remember a stink being raised last year.  However, on further reflection I think Mr. Rove would have his faux outrage regardless of the distinguished voice behind the words.

Has anyone seen the Eastwood spot since Sunday?

David


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Wesley McGee

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Feb 7, 2012, 11:08:54 PM2/7/12
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:00 PM, David Bruggeman <bru...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Pretty sure it ran outside of NFL telecasts, as I think I've seen Mr. Suh's ad a few times (he goes home to visit Mom, if I remember correctly).

Initially I was persuaded that the opposition was mainly about Clint Eastwood being involved, mainly because I don't remember a stink being raised last year.  However, on further reflection I think Mr. Rove would have his faux outrage regardless of the distinguished voice behind the words.

Has anyone seen the Eastwood spot since Sunday?

I really doubt it ran outside of the Super Bowl.  That ad made specific mention of the fact that it was halftime during the game. The ad really wouldn't make sense during, say, How I Met Your Mother. But I will concede I don't know for sure. But I haven't seen the ad outside of the news reports about the ad...
 
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PGage

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Feb 7, 2012, 11:32:31 PM2/7/12
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Wesley McGee <wesley...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:00 PM, David Bruggeman <bru...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Pretty sure it ran outside of NFL telecasts, as I think I've seen Mr. Suh's ad a few times (he goes home to visit Mom, if I remember correctly).

Initially I was persuaded that the opposition was mainly about Clint Eastwood being involved, mainly because I don't remember a stink being raised last year.  However, on further reflection I think Mr. Rove would have his faux outrage regardless of the distinguished voice behind the words.

Has anyone seen the Eastwood spot since Sunday?

I really doubt it ran outside of the Super Bowl.  That ad made specific mention of the fact that it was halftime during the game. The ad really wouldn't make sense during, say, How I Met Your Mother. But I will concede I don't know for sure. But I haven't seen the ad outside of the news reports about the ad...

Its also a 2 minute ad - how many commercials of that length run anywhere? I guess they could cut it down to 60 seconds (and omit the specific game references) and give it a go.

We may not see it again until North Carolina...

Tom Wolper

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Feb 8, 2012, 2:30:16 PM2/8/12
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On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:32 PM, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Its also a 2 minute ad - how many commercials of that length run anywhere? I
> guess they could cut it down to 60 seconds (and omit the specific game
> references) and give it a go.
>
> We may not see it again until North Carolina...

Last year's Eminem ad got cut down to 30 seconds for later airing. The
Eastwood ad might also, but I suspect they will wait a couple of
months until the manufactured outrage goes away.

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