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Steve Timko
Apr 26, 2018, 5:24:37 PM4/26/18
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I was disappointed the judge didn't immediately remand him to custody. Cosby faces up to 10 years on each of the three counts, but it looks like any sentence would be served concurrently. Even so, for the 80-year-old Cosby, just about any sentence to prison will likely means he dies in prison and I think he knows this. Bail is $1 million, but Cosby has that in his sofa cushions.
There's plenty of nice places he can run to without extradition treaties, like Croatia or Dubai. Even Kazakhstan. Kevin, would Cosby like it there? Joe Conforte went to Brazil, but those are are tax and racketeering charges, not sexual misconduct.
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Apr 26, 2018, 5:45:26 PM4/26/18
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Tom Wolper
Apr 26, 2018, 5:56:12 PM4/26/18
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A country may not have an extradition treaty with the US but that doesn't mean that they would let him into the country. Accepting somebody that high profile is an embarrassment for the government and a diplomatic headache for the local government. In 1970 Meyer Lansky fled a warrant for federal tax evasion charges, arrived in Israel and applied for instant citizenship based on the Law of Return. Israeli courts ruled that a Jewish applicant for citizenship can be denied based on a criminal past and he was eventually deported. Cosby would be a similar headache.
Steve Timko
Apr 26, 2018, 6:39:18 PM4/26/18
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Joe Conforte was fairly high profile. Oscar Bonavena was an Argentinian national hero when he was shot dead at the Mustang Ranch. Roman Polanski was high profile. Hell, Cuba took hijackers.
What Cosby needs is a competent Michael Cohen to grease the skids for his entry into some country.
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Apr 26, 2018, 6:58:04 PM4/26/18
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Cosby's health is allegedly in decline. Having worked tangentially in the court system for a time, it is cost effective to allow sick or infirmed people to not be incarcerated for as long as possible, as medical costs within the prison system are as much as triple what they might be on the outside.
While it is fun to contemplate Cosby trying to evade to Kazakhstan (where there aren’t even 1000 people of African background in the entire country), I don’t think he’s going anywhere. I would check his house for things he could use to off himself (including his magic pills) before I’d be concerned with him trying to flee.
Maybe he will choke on a Pudding Pop.
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Apr 26, 2018, 8:14:52 PM4/26/18
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On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:
Cosby's health is allegedly in decline. Having worked tangentially in the court system for a time, it is cost effective to allow sick or infirmed people to not be incarcerated for as long as possible, as medical costs within the prison system are as much as triple what they might be on the outside.While it is fun to contemplate Cosby trying to evade to Kazakhstan (where there aren’t even 1000 people of African background in the entire country), I don’t think he’s going anywhere. I would check his house for things he could use to off himself (including his magic pills) before I’d be concerned with him trying to flee.Maybe he will choke on a Pudding Pop.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 3:39 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
Joe Conforte was fairly high profile. Oscar Bonavena was an Argentinian national hero when he was shot dead at the Mustang Ranch. Roman Polanski was high profile. Hell, Cuba took hijackers.What Cosby needs is a competent Michael Cohen to grease the skids for his entry into some country.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Tom Wolper <two...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 5:24 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:I was disappointed the judge didn't immediately remand him to custody. Cosby faces up to 10 years on each of the three counts, but it looks like any sentence would be served concurrently. Even so, for the 80-year-old Cosby, just about any sentence to prison will likely means he dies in prison and I think he knows this. Bail is $1 million, but Cosby has that in his sofa cushions.There's plenty of nice places he can run to without extradition treaties, like Croatia or Dubai. Even Kazakhstan. Kevin, would Cosby like it there? Joe Conforte went to Brazil, but those are are tax and racketeering charges, not sexual misconduct.A country may not have an extradition treaty with the US but that doesn't mean that they would let him into the country. Accepting somebody that high profile is an embarrassment for the government and a diplomatic headache for the local government. In 1970 Meyer Lansky fled a warrant for federal tax evasion charges, arrived in Israel and applied for instant citizenship based on the Law of Return. Israeli courts ruled that a Jewish applicant for citizenship can be denied based on a criminal past and he was eventually deported. Cosby would be a similar headache.
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Apr 26, 2018, 10:31:07 PM4/26/18
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Not funny.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 5:14 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:
Cosby's health is allegedly in decline. Having worked tangentially in the court system for a time, it is cost effective to allow sick or infirmed people to not be incarcerated for as long as possible, as medical costs within the prison system are as much as triple what they might be on the outside.While it is fun to contemplate Cosby trying to evade to Kazakhstan (where there aren’t even 1000 people of African background in the entire country), I don’t think he’s going anywhere. I would check his house for things he could use to off himself (including his magic pills) before I’d be concerned with him trying to flee.Maybe he will choke on a Pudding Pop.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 3:39 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
Joe Conforte was fairly high profile. Oscar Bonavena was an Argentinian national hero when he was shot dead at the Mustang Ranch. Roman Polanski was high profile. Hell, Cuba took hijackers.What Cosby needs is a competent Michael Cohen to grease the skids for his entry into some country.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Tom Wolper <two...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 5:24 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:I was disappointed the judge didn't immediately remand him to custody. Cosby faces up to 10 years on each of the three counts, but it looks like any sentence would be served concurrently. Even so, for the 80-year-old Cosby, just about any sentence to prison will likely means he dies in prison and I think he knows this. Bail is $1 million, but Cosby has that in his sofa cushions.There's plenty of nice places he can run to without extradition treaties, like Croatia or Dubai. Even Kazakhstan. Kevin, would Cosby like it there? Joe Conforte went to Brazil, but those are are tax and racketeering charges, not sexual misconduct.A country may not have an extradition treaty with the US but that doesn't mean that they would let him into the country. Accepting somebody that high profile is an embarrassment for the government and a diplomatic headache for the local government. In 1970 Meyer Lansky fled a warrant for federal tax evasion charges, arrived in Israel and applied for instant citizenship based on the Law of Return. Israeli courts ruled that a Jewish applicant for citizenship can be denied based on a criminal past and he was eventually deported. Cosby would be a similar headache.
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Apr 27, 2018, 1:05:08 AM4/27/18
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Is it just me, or does this Cosby victim look like Anderson Cooper in a wig?
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 5:14 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:
Cosby's health is allegedly in decline. Having worked tangentially in the court system for a time, it is cost effective to allow sick or infirmed people to not be incarcerated for as long as possible, as medical costs within the prison system are as much as triple what they might be on the outside.While it is fun to contemplate Cosby trying to evade to Kazakhstan (where there aren’t even 1000 people of African background in the entire country), I don’t think he’s going anywhere. I would check his house for things he could use to off himself (including his magic pills) before I’d be concerned with him trying to flee.Maybe he will choke on a Pudding Pop.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 3:39 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
Joe Conforte was fairly high profile. Oscar Bonavena was an Argentinian national hero when he was shot dead at the Mustang Ranch. Roman Polanski was high profile. Hell, Cuba took hijackers.What Cosby needs is a competent Michael Cohen to grease the skids for his entry into some country.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Tom Wolper <two...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 5:24 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:I was disappointed the judge didn't immediately remand him to custody. Cosby faces up to 10 years on each of the three counts, but it looks like any sentence would be served concurrently. Even so, for the 80-year-old Cosby, just about any sentence to prison will likely means he dies in prison and I think he knows this. Bail is $1 million, but Cosby has that in his sofa cushions.There's plenty of nice places he can run to without extradition treaties, like Croatia or Dubai. Even Kazakhstan. Kevin, would Cosby like it there? Joe Conforte went to Brazil, but those are are tax and racketeering charges, not sexual misconduct.A country may not have an extradition treaty with the US but that doesn't mean that they would let him into the country. Accepting somebody that high profile is an embarrassment for the government and a diplomatic headache for the local government. In 1970 Meyer Lansky fled a warrant for federal tax evasion charges, arrived in Israel and applied for instant citizenship based on the Law of Return. Israeli courts ruled that a Jewish applicant for citizenship can be denied based on a criminal past and he was eventually deported. Cosby would be a similar headache.
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Tom Wolper
Apr 27, 2018, 1:38:42 PM4/27/18
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On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 6:39 PM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
Joe Conforte was fairly high profile. Oscar Bonavena was an Argentinian national hero when he was shot dead at the Mustang Ranch. Roman Polanski was high profile. Hell, Cuba took hijackers.What Cosby needs is a competent Michael Cohen to grease the skids for his entry into some country.
I had to look Conforte up on wikipedia which, to me, makes him much less high profile than Cosby. Conforte was 54 when he first fled the country in 1980 and 65 when he fled in 1991. According to wiki Brazil doesn't extradite for bankruptcy fraud, not that they don't have an extradition treaty with the US. Oscar Bonavena wasn't on the run from the law, not in Argentina nor in Nevada. Polanski was 44 when he fled.
Cosby is 80. Even someone who is healthy for 80 doesn't want to start a new life in another country away from family and a US standard of medical care. And I haven't seen any indications of this, though I am not following the details of the case closely, but I'm sure the court has frozen his assets or at least has a way to keep him from sending his money out of the country. And Cosby is just too recognizable to blend in anywhere. There are fugitives who managed to escape the US for years and decades but they were financiers.
Steve Timko
Apr 28, 2018, 2:11:00 PM4/28/18
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Conforte is not as famous as Cosby, but he was much more famous in the 1980s. Bonavena was a huge star in Argentina. They filled the country's largest soccer stadium for a memorial service for him. He staggered Muhammed Ali, by the way. The movie "Love Ranch" was loosely based on a Conforte bodyguard shooting Bonavena with a high-powered rifle as Bonavena was headed into the Mustang Ranch to confront Conforte. Bonavena had been having an affair with Conforte's wife and wanted to take over the brothel. The real life stories are phenomenal in this case. A pro-Conforte deputy planted a gun on Bonavena's body,. then unplanted it when they started moving Bonvena and found out he actually had a gun.
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Apr 29, 2018, 5:50:48 AM4/29/18
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> Conforte is not as famous as Cosby, but he was much more famous in the
> 1980s.
> 1980s.
The 1980s were when Thursday night World Series games started a little later so NBC could show The Cosby Show. Whatever fame/infamy Conforte enjoyed, I don't think it ever compared to Cosby's celebrity. (To be fair, it could have been different in Nevada.)
Steve Timko
Feb 7, 2019, 11:39:37 PM2/7/19
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Every other time I've checked Pennsylvania records, Cosby's name did not show up. He showed up today. The story names the prison where he's at, but that doesn't show up in his booking info.
Bill Cosby, 81, moved to general unit at Pennsylvania prison
COLLEGEVILLE, Pa. (AP) - Bill Cosby has been moved to a general population unit as he serves three to 10 years in prison for sexual assault in Pennsylvania.
The move last week comes after the 81-year-old actor spent about four months in special housing as he acclimated to the SCI-Phoenix in suburban Philadelphia.
A state prison spokeswoman says Cosby has a single cell and is not on a ward for older inmates.
Spokeswoman Amy Worden says inmates there can spend several hours a day in the gym or exercise yard, and other time in the library, class or day room. She says the legally blind Cosby has inmates assigned to help him at times, given his age and disability.
Cosby is serving time for drugging and sexually assaulting a woman at his home in 2004.
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Steve Timko, to an April '18 post from JW, late Thurs. (2/07):
Every other time I've checked Pennsylvania records, Cosby's name did not show up. He showed up today. The story names the prison where he's at, but that doesn't show up in his booking info.
Enough people have now discovered this, that someone apparently has attacked the site.
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Moi, to Steve Timko, Fri. (2/08):
Every other time I've checked Pennsylvania records, Cosby's name did not show up. He showed up today. The story names the prison where he's at, but that doesn't show up in his booking info.Enough people have now discovered this, that someone apparently has attacked the site.
My bad. Search engine requires pop-up blocker be turned off. B
Kevin M.
Feb 13, 2019, 2:23:31 PM2/13/19
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Cosby not remorseful, according to spokesperson, and spends time in prison working on new ideas for TV shows.
I’d pay cash money to be witness at that pitch meeting.
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On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:23:31 PM UTC-5, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
Cosby not remorseful, according to spokesperson, and spends time in prison working on new ideas for TV shows.I’d pay cash money to be witness at that pitch meeting.
You don't think the world is ready for the reboot of "Longstreet"?
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Feb 15, 2019, 6:40:57 AM2/15/19
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On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 11:39:37 PM UTC-5, Steve Timko wrote:
Every other time I've checked Pennsylvania records, Cosby's name did not show up. He showed up today. The story names the prison where he's at, but that doesn't show up in his booking info.Bill Cosby, 81, moved to general unit at Pennsylvania prison
He issued a statement via his attorney:
"My political beliefs, my actions of trying to humanize all races, genders and religions landed me in this place surrounded by barb wire fencing, a room made of steel and iron"
He then apparently went on to compare himself to Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi, and Nelson Mandela.
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On Friday, February 15, 2019 at 6:40:57 AM UTC-5, bermuda999 wrote:
He issued a statement via his attorney:"My political beliefs, my actions of trying to humanize all races, genders and religions landed me in this place surrounded by barb wire fencing, a room made of steel and iron"He then apparently went on to compare himself to Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi, and Nelson Mandela.
I don't remember Gandhi endorsing Jell-O Pudding Pops.
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I have a dream ... that everyone will go see Leonard Part VI.
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Apr 5, 2019, 3:52:38 PM4/5/19
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Filings: Bill Cosby agrees to settle 7 defamation cases
By MARYCLAIRE DALE
Associated Press
Bill Cosby has agreed to settle lawsuits filed by seven women who say he defamed them when he accused them of lying about sexual misconduct allegations.
Court documents filed Friday in Springfield, Massachusetts, show the two sides have negotiated a settlement since Cosby went to prison last fall in a separate Pennsylvania sex assault case. The 81-year-old comedian is serving a three- to 10-year prison sentence there.
The judge overseeing the defamation case in Massachusetts must still approve the settlement. The terms are confidential.
It's not yet clear whether Cosby will now drop his counterclaims against the seven women, including one who recently died. They are among the dozens of women who have accused Cosby of sexual misconduct. He has denied their allegations and is appealing his Pennsylvania conviction.
Neither Cosby's spokesman or a lead lawyer in the defamation case immediately returned messages seeking comment.
The women suing Cosby for defamation say he defamed them by branding them liars after they went public with allegations of sexual assault. They include Tamara Green, Therese Serignese and Barbara Bowman.
Cosby has denied their allegations.
Lawyer Joseph Cammarata, who represents the women, told The Associated Press on Friday that "each plaintiff is satisfied with the settlement." He declined to comment further.
However, he warned in a status report also filed Friday that his clients would seek to depose Cosby and gather other documents and evidence if he does not drop the counterclaims, which accuse the women of harming his reputation through their accusations.
Cosby's wife, Camille, had been ordered to give a deposition in the case in 2016, after a heated court fight over her testimony.
Lawyers for the Cosbys tried to quash her subpoena to testify, saying she didn't have any relevant information on the women's claims and that any marital conversations she had with her husband of 50 years were confidential. The judge agreed that marital conversations were private, but the women's lawyers noted she also served as his business manager throughout their long marriage.
The case had largely been put on hold, though, while Cosby was amid the Pennsylvania criminal case, which involved a 2017 trial that ended in a deadlock and his conviction at a 2018 retrial.
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Apr 5, 2019, 8:14:46 PM4/5/19
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NBC10 Philly reported that the settlement decision was made by Cosby's insurance company, and Cosby had not agreed to the deal.
The report also notes that the countersuits would not be dropped.
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Steve Timko
May 31, 2019, 6:03:19 PM5/31/19
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Bill Cosby drops defamation claims against 7 accusers
SPRINGFIELD, Mass. (AP) - Bill Cosby has dropped his countersuit against seven women who accused him of sexually assaulting them.
Court papers filed Friday show the four-year defamation case in Massachusetts is now over. Cosby's insurer had settled with the women last month for an undisclosed sum.
The 81-year-old comedian objected to the settlement and vowed to pursue his counterclaims. Spokesman Andrew Wyatt said Friday that Cosby dropped the case "to focus on other matters."
Cosby is serving a three- to 10-year sentence in Pennsylvania for drugging and molesting a different woman in 2004.
The women involved in the defamation case include Tamara Green, Barbara Bowman and Therese Serignese.
Lawyer Joe Cammarata says his clients believe they are "truth tellers." He had planned to take Cosby's deposition if he pursued his countersuit.
SPRINGFIELD, Mass. (AP) - Bill Cosby has dropped his countersuit against seven women who accused him of sexually assaulting them.
Court papers filed Friday show the four-year defamation case in Massachusetts is now over. Cosby's insurer had settled with the women last month for an undisclosed sum.
The 81-year-old comedian objected to the settlement and vowed to pursue his counterclaims. Spokesman Andrew Wyatt said Friday that Cosby dropped the case "to focus on other matters."
Cosby is serving a three- to 10-year sentence in Pennsylvania for drugging and molesting a different woman in 2004.
The women involved in the defamation case include Tamara Green, Barbara Bowman and Therese Serignese.
Lawyer Joe Cammarata says his clients believe they are "truth tellers." He had planned to take Cosby's deposition if he pursued his countersuit.
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