Jon Stewart to return to "The Daily Show" as EP and part-time host through 2024 election

[M-D November]

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/24/jon-stewart-daily-show-host-return-election - among other places.

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M-D

...and now, your moment of Zen.

[Kevin M.]

I might actually tune in as Election Day nears 

Kevin M. (RPCV)

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[Bob Jersey]

And Smithberg and Winstead will live to see this...     B

M-D November, Jan 24th:

[Doug Eastick]

I guess he wanted to have an outlet after he walked from Apple TV.

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[Dave Sikula]

I doubt anyone will be surprised to hear I'm very leery about this. On his Late Show appearances, he seemed to be leaning a little too hard into COVID conspiracies, and (for me) too much of his work on TDS was both-sidesing things for which there were really only one side.

I'll watch, but with a wary eye.

--Dave Sikula

[Adam Bowie]

Looking at UK TV schedules, it seems that we're getting the Jon Stewart episodes of The Daily Show, but *only* the Stewart episodes. 

Comedy Central UK had dropped episodes sometime last year, even though they only aired on Comedy Xtra (their second channel here) at around 3.00am in the morning, around 24 hours after episodes aired in the US. Obviously, ratings at that time were basically zero, and Paramount probably saw it as too much hassle to even air in the middle of the night.

In practical terms it meant that viewers couldn't realistically watch Monday's episode until Wednesday sometime. The new Monday episodes look like they're getting shown at 11.00pm on Tuesdays.

Still if Stewart is regularly throwing forward to later in the week episodes, that's going to be a bit weird. Personally, I do miss those great Jordan Klepper bits. I know there's YouTube, but CC tend to geo-block everything so I have to fire up the VPN.

Adam

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[Adam Bowie]

Correcting myself. Comedy Central UK is showing all weekly episodes.

The Monday Stewart episode airs at 11pm Tuesday. The Tues-Thurs episodes will air around 3.45am a day or so later. So Tuesday's episode actually airs Thursday at 3.45am.

[PGage]

Have not seen yet if this spilled over to increased ratings for non-Stewart TDS episodes this week, and will be interesting to see how much of that initial bounce were one time curiosity viewers who will not return.

Frankly I am not sure how likely I am to watch regularly. I was expecting more than just hackneyed “can you believe how bad both of our options are?” takes and jokes. 

I suppose he might just be trying to establish a certain foundation of balance so that when he later does John Oliver like shows criticizing Trump after one of his likely criminal convictions or predictable horrible statements it will have more impact.

I will likely only watch if I see reports he had a good show.

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[Mark Jeffries]

It should be pointed out that Paramount did a roadblock of six other channels besides COM (MTV, MTV2, CMT (!), Pop, TV Land, Paramount Network) and the numbers for the repeat on COM later that night counted.

It did seem to me that Stewart was too many "Biden's old" jokes for my taste, and that seems to be the tone of "TDS" right now--Trump's a demented bastard, but Biden's senile.  As far as I'm concerned, a half-witted Biden's better than Trump any day.

They didn't say who's hosting next week.  Also, the vanity card of Stewart's Busboy plays full-screen, while the card of MTV Entertainment Studios featuring the Moon Man (which is technically the producer of "TDS" now) still is squeezed back under the Moment of Zen. If they played the sound, you would hear Sting singing "MTV" from Dire Straits' "Money for Nothing."

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[M-D November]

Fun fact - it was only about 2 years ago that I finally realized that the "I want my MTV" riff from Dire Straits' "Money For Nothing" is the same riff as The Police's "Don't Stand So Close to Me". I'm not sure how I managed to miss that for several DECADES, but there you are.

I thought Jon's return succeeded where it needed to; yes, he leaned into "both choices are horrible" during act 1, but he quickly called himself out re: the "ravages of age"; the BFNTP got in some good shots at Stewart (particularly Dulce Sloan and Jordan Klepper) during act 2, so you get the feeling they were turning into the skid re: some of the criticism leveled at Stewart's return.

[Dave Sikula]

I watched the rest of the week because I like Klepper, but the other correspondents leave me cold.

I suppose Stewart will hold onto his following, but the more I've seen him since he left the show the first time, the more I've disliked him. I don't think he's setting himself up for being harsher on Trump, though; for, what, a decade?, he's been too much "a pox on both your houses" for my tastes. I'm not saying that either the Dems or Biden haven't earned criticism, but what he does in that regard is lazy and obvious.

--Dave Sikula

[PGage]

Right, and that (lazy and obvious) is the real damming criticism for a comic. Regardless of the political implications, his act has been hack - nothing more than we might expect from the opening act on a week night at a suburban comedy club. I think we have a right to expect more from him.

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[PGage]

JS should actually pay Tucker Carlson to do stuff every week, because he is a never-fail foil. They could make him a Monday correspondent for the show, except instead of having to write and produce segments they just send him out into the world to be himself.

Would have been just funny, except the context that made TC relevant and worth talking about was one of the most heartbreaking, outrageous and momentous political murders of our time so, hard to laugh too much, when I was still wiping away the tears from reading pieces about Navalny and his widow like the one by Julia Iofee at Puck News.

What I found most of note about Week 2 of the new Stew was how apparently pissed off he was at criticism of his both siding Trump and Biden, especially apparently at Mary Trump (who I think is the kind of person Stewart would like to have as a “Friend of the Show” during the Fall campaign). His brief response really confirmed for me how much he does not get it. The criticism is not that he owes it to democracy and Democrats to only make fun of Trump.

JS painted himself as the heroic truth teller who had the balls to say out loud what everyone else knows but is afraid to say (that Biden is old). But of course that is the opposite of what is going on. For the last year at least Everyone has been joking and complaining about how old Biden is. There is nothing new, insightful or courageous in that. Stewart is telling hack jokes that are the equivalent of how bad airplane food is on the flight from LA to NY, ir how White people walk like this, but Black people walk like this, and pretending he is on the cutting edge. 

I don’t think most liberals expect or even want Stewart to give Biden a pass, just to put in the effort to make jokes that get at Biden’s real weaknesses or failures, and not designed to normalize and minimize Trump’s villainy. 

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[Jon Delfin]

Digby's Hullabaloo includes much of Mary Trump's follow-up

https://digbysblog.net/2024/02/20/much-better-more-like-this-please/

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[Greg Diener]

My problem with Stewart is he learned nothing from his stupid "Rally" in 2010 when he told people in what turned out to be the midterm election that had the most dramatic effect in shaping where we are now that their vote didn't matter.

It's clear he's set in his "both sides are bad" mindset which makes him no better than someone like Chuck Todd.

And that's not even getting into his dabbling into COVID Lab Leak Truther crap. At this point, I expect he'll have Nate Silver as a guest at some point to piss the entire Internet off.

Greg