Sam Nunberg (former trump advisor), cable news nets, and Britney/CFerg

[Doug Eastick]

around 4pm today I checked twitter.  It was blowing up with Sam stories and @KatyTurNBC (I think that's her handle).    Then at 4pm he called into Jake Tapper on CNN.    Then somewhere around 5pm was NY1.  Then 6pm was Ari Melber on MSNBC.  Then at 7pm for 45 minutes I listened live to him on CNN on Erin Burnett.

By 8pm I caught up on the tweetybox and saw people questioning Sam's mental state.  Even Erin questioned it (alcohol and drugs) in his last few minutes of the interview.  I was immediately reminded of CFerg and his monolog on Britney Spears (he would not make any jokes about a person in such a questionable mental state).

I predict that as of ~8-9pm tonight, no nets will have him on the air anymore.   And I hope he gets help or is adequately supported.

Curious if PGage has a take on this Sam Nunberg blizzard from 3pm to 9pm today.

[Kevin M.]

I'm watching the Melber interview. He's fully aware of what he is saying and the potential consequences. Trying to diagnose a mental issue based on interviews is problematic for me. Doesn't mean you are wrong. He seems to think of himself as a martyr of some kind, merely because he's refusing to turn over emails of people he considers friends/mentors. His opinions about what he feels he should be compelled to do might be crazy opinions, but that alone doesn't make him crazy.

https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/watch-ex-trump-aide-defying-mueller-gets-cross-examined-on-live-tv-1177444419960?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

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[PGage]

I work late on Monday nights and just got home about an hour ago (CA time). I usually get some dinner and then check out my news sources online to see what happened during the day, and just got caught up on Nunberg (including watching the Tur Interview and part of the Burnett interview.

I certainly agree with Kevin that you can’t diagnose someone from a few interviews. OTOH, sometimes you do have to make a decision about whether someone is in an appropriate mental state to be interviewed on TV. My main criticism of what I have seen is of Burnett - if she really thought she smelled alcohol and thought he was drunk, she should not have interviewed him in the first place.

I have seen several people now who have known Nunberg for a while say that the person they saw on cable news today is the same person they have seen all along. To them he looked “freaked out”, but not intoxicated or high.  

I don’t think a psychiatric diagnosis is really needed here; what we saw today is an example of the kind of people Trump chose, and continues to choose, to surround himself with. Nunberg may now be most famous for the bizarre show he put on today (for the record, he is now telling people he probably will comply with Muller after all), the most important thing to know about him is that he is the guy who was too much of a racist asshole for even Donald Trump to associate with.

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[Doug Eastick]

Thanks.

I just saw another tweet thread this morning that basically stated "here's another demonstration of what can happen when Mueller stresses people out"

As for the alcohol smell, I only thought she smelled it WHILE sitting there with him during the interview.

[Steve Timko]

Roger Stone had some bizarre appearances in Alex Jones videos, such as predicting Hillary's imminent indictment. Watching these, I didn't detect alcohol. I detected Roger Stone.

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[Kevin M.]

Roger Stone molests collies 

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[Melissa P]

And, there he is on my TV, being interviewed by Chuck Todd.

Back when I was a teenager and freshman in college, never could I have imagined that one of the people I (briefly) hung out with from a neighboring campus would be in the headlines in 2018.  That would be Roger Stone -- but his then girlfriend -- later to be his first wife -- made more of an impression on me back then.  Oddly enough, all these decades later I can still see why -- because sometime this past year our paths crossed again, the first time since college.  Although she did not remember me, she remembered the event and was still in contact with a couple of other people from that era.  Roger has "gone over to the dark side," she told me.  But they were still on good terms and had a business relationship that she got in the divorce.  One thing she didn't get in the divorce was their friendship with the Trumps.  Roger got that.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:

Roger Stone molests collies 

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 11:07 AM Steve Timko <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

Roger Stone had some bizarre appearances in Alex Jones videos, such as predicting Hillary's imminent indictment. Watching these, I didn't detect alcohol. I detected Roger Stone.

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On Mar 6, 2018, at 3:46 AM, Doug Eastick <eas...@mcd.on.ca> wrote:

Thanks.

I just saw another tweet thread this morning that basically stated "here's another demonstration of what can happen when Mueller stresses people out"

As for the alcohol smell, I only thought she smelled it WHILE sitting there with him during the interview.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018, 12:18 AM PGage, < pga...@gmail.com> wrote:

I work late on Monday nights and just got home about an hour ago (CA time). I usually get some dinner and then check out my news sources online to see what happened during the day, and just got caught up on Nunberg (including watching the Tur Interview and part of the Burnett interview.

I certainly agree with Kevin that you can’t diagnose someone from a few interviews. OTOH, sometimes you do have to make a decision about whether someone is in an appropriate mental state to be interviewed on TV. My main criticism of what I have seen is of Burnett - if she really thought she smelled alcohol and thought he was drunk, she should not have interviewed him in the first place.

I have seen several people now who have known Nunberg for a while say that the person they saw on cable news today is the same person they have seen all along. To them he looked “freaked out”, but not intoxicated or high.  

I don’t think a psychiatric diagnosis is really needed here; what we saw today is an example of the kind of people Trump chose, and continues to choose, to surround himself with. Nunberg may now be most famous for the bizarre show he put on today (for the record, he is now telling people he probably will comply with Muller after all), the most important thing to know about him is that he is the guy who was too much of a racist asshole for even Donald Trump to associate with.

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 7:23 PM Kevin M. < drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm watching the Melber interview. He's fully aware of what he is saying and the potential consequences. Trying to diagnose a mental issue based on interviews is problematic for me. Doesn't mean you are wrong. He seems to think of himself as a martyr of some kind, merely because he's refusing to turn over emails of people he considers friends/mentors. His opinions about what he feels he should be compelled to do might be crazy opinions, but that alone doesn't make him crazy.

https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/watch-ex-trump-aide-defying-mueller-gets-cross-examined-on-live-tv-1177444419960?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Doug Eastick <eas...@mcd.on.ca> wrote:

around 4pm today I checked twitter.  It was blowing up with Sam stories and @KatyTurNBC (I think that's her handle).    Then at 4pm he called into Jake Tapper on CNN.    Then somewhere around 5pm was NY1.  Then 6pm was Ari Melber on MSNBC.  Then at 7pm for 45 minutes I listened live to him on CNN on Erin Burnett.

By 8pm I caught up on the tweetybox and saw people questioning Sam's mental state.  Even Erin questioned it (alcohol and drugs) in his last few minutes of the interview.  I was immediately reminded of CFerg and his monolog on Britney Spears (he would not make any jokes about a person in such a questionable mental state).

I predict that as of ~8-9pm tonight, no nets will have him on the air anymore.   And I hope he gets help or is adequately supported.

Curious if PGage has a take on this Sam Nunberg blizzard from 3pm to 9pm today.

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[Steve Timko]

Nunberg now says he will cooperate.

http://cnn.it/2FgfhtT

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[Doug Eastick]

Thanks to Melissa for today's episode of Brushed with Greatness (apologies if I got the letterman skit name incorrect)

Roger Stone molests collies 

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[JW]

> Thanks to Melissa for today's episode of Brushed with Greatness (apologies
> if I got the letterman skit name incorrect)

For the record, it was Brush with Greatness, but your thought was right on the money.

[PGage]

I maybe should have pointed the finger at her producers; they knew he was bizarre already; in pre-interview they should have determined if he smelled of alcohol before putting him on their live air. 

I think it would be fair to ask “your bizarre interviews today have led to questions about your sobriety or mental health-how do you respond?” But to confront him with his smell of alcohol feels like a set up. It’s like if his fly was open and instead of either fixing it before they put him on or deciding he was not competent and not putting him on, they said nothing and then confronted him with it on live TV.

But in this case dude was not drunk or mentally ill, just a freaked out douche bag.

[Melissa P]

Yes, what was my favorite bit from Letterman was called Brush with Greatness.

BTW I had a REAL Brush with Greatness recently -- because somehow I don't think Roger Stone and his ex-wife qualify as "greatness."

Last month, I sat behind and chatted with a true great -- lyricist Tim Rice -- at a concert production of one of his shows, Chess.