Canada opening border to vaxxed Yanks Aug 9

[Bob Jersey]

Not mentioned: About a week and a half after the Blue Jays return to their stadium after Buffalo exile... https://variety.com/2021/film/news/canada-vaccinated-americans-august-9-1235023325/ (link)

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[M-D November]

What’s interesting is that MLB is still not requiring players & personnel to vaccinate. Presumably that will change for the Blue Jays (and for anyone scheduled to play them at home).

(Aside: was this the year the TB Rays were supposed to start splitting the season between St. Pete & Montreal?)

[John Edwards]

Not necessarily. I presume the Jays will be strongly encouraged to get vaccinated (if they haven’t already). As for the the visiting teams, they’d be subject to MLB’s protocol, which makes things much easier for teams that are 85% vaxxed and probably basically bubbling while they’re in Toronto. If they stay in the hotel that’s attached to the Rogers Centre, they really don’t even need to leave the building. 

The Tampa-Montreal thing won’t happen until 2028 at the earliest, unless the Rays find a way to get out of their lease. 

John

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[Jim Ellwanger]

As probably the only Rays fan on this list… I’m fairly well convinced that the “split season” situation isn’t going to actually happen, it’s just the Rays trying to pit the two cities against each other in order to see which one is going to build a new stadium first.

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[John Edwards]

Jim, I suspect you're right. It feels like Montreal is being used to threaten Tampa Bay, in the same way that Las Vegas is being used to get a new stadium built in Oakland.

John

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[M-D November]

Speaking of the A's, I know Vegas is on the board (although they're going to need to build an indoor stadium for that to be practical - who's going to want to play baseball in the summer outside in the middle of the desert?), but I wonder if MLB is looking north at Vancouver?  It would keep the A's in the same division (and make trips to Seattle convenient), expand the Canadian market, and...well, I'm sure there are other benefits.  (Access to CW TV production sites?)

[Jim Ellwanger]

In 2019, I saw the Las Vegas Aviators, the AAA-level minor-league team that plays in an outdoor stadium there, and it was fine even though the game was in the afternoon. Among other things, their seats are made of a mesh material rather than being standard plastic stadium seats. (Admittedly, I’m not sure how the players feel about it.)

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[David Bruggeman]

One of the local Sacramento stations last night ran a piece on a group of local business leaders looking to have MLB consider the city.  I suspect MLB will ignore this just like they did an effort in the 80s to attract a team.

David

[Tom Wolper]

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 12:43 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

One of the local Sacramento stations last night ran a piece on a group of local business leaders looking to have MLB consider the city.  I suspect MLB will ignore this just like they did an effort in the 80s to attract a team.

There's a ton of bad faith and misdirection when teams want new facilities or talk about moving. Kansas City built the Sprint Center in the '90s in order to attract an NBA team and NHL team and residents got their hopes up repeatedly as teams talked about ditching their obsolete arenas for the new building. Not only did the threats get cities and states to pony up the money for new arenas, now the Spring Center has aged out of the new arena category.

I can believe Oakland isn't going to put up the money for a new stadium and the A's won't hesitate to leave. And as the process moves forward the local media in Sacramento, Vancouver, Charlotte, Las Vegas, Jacksonville, and any other city that has been pushing for an MLB franchise will tell local residents that this might be the time and it will get everybody's hopes up. If the team moves the final decision will come down to who can put the most money into the owner's pockets and not which city has the best fans or keeps the AL West together.

[Kevin M.]

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 9:43 AM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

One of the local Sacramento stations last night ran a piece on a group of local business leaders looking to have MLB consider the city.  I suspect MLB will ignore this just like they did an effort in the 80s to attract a team.

I get that I’m not a sports fan, but I think I have a “hot take” even the biggest sports enthusiast can agree with: If you feel that California needs ANY new team for ANY sport for ANY reason, you should not be allowed to vote. Hell, you should not be allowed to leave your house. 

David

On Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 8:07:25 AM PDT, John Edwards <jedwa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jim, I suspect you're right. It feels like Montreal is being used to threaten Tampa Bay, in the same way that Las Vegas is being used to get a new stadium built in Oakland.

John

On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 at 00:27, Jim Ellwanger <trai...@ellwanger.tv> wrote:

As probably the only Rays fan on this list… I’m fairly well convinced that the “split season” situation isn’t going to actually happen, it’s just the Rays trying to pit the two cities against each other in order to see which one is going to build a new stadium first.

On Jul 19, 2021, at 9:24 PM, John Edwards <jedwa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not necessarily. I presume the Jays will be strongly encouraged to get vaccinated (if they haven’t already). As for the the visiting teams, they’d be subject to MLB’s protocol, which makes things much easier for teams that are 85% vaxxed and probably basically bubbling while they’re in Toronto. If they stay in the hotel that’s attached to the Rogers Centre, they really don’t even need to leave the building. 

The Tampa-Montreal thing won’t happen until 2028 at the earliest, unless the Rays find a way to get out of their lease. 

John

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 12:20 AM M-D November <mdnov...@gmail.com> wrote:

What’s interesting is that MLB is still not requiring players & personnel to vaccinate. Presumably that will change for the Blue Jays (and for anyone scheduled to play them at home).

(Aside: was this the year the TB Rays were supposed to start splitting the season between St. Pete & Montreal?)

On Monday, July 19, 2021 at 8:46:31 PM UTC-4 Bob Jersey wrote:

Not mentioned: About a week and a half after the Blue Jays return to their stadium after Buffalo exile... https://variety.com/2021/film/news/canada-vaccinated-americans-august-9-1235023325/ (link)

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[John Edwards]

There hasn't been any serious movement in Vancouver that I've seen. They do have a domed stadium that hosted some exhibition games in the 80s and 90s, but after Edgar Martinez got injured on its bad turf those stopped. Vancouver would need a brand new stadium, and I don't think anyone with stupid amounts of money has stepped up yet. I think the corporate money in Canada is more inclined to another Montreal team than one in Vancouver.

John

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[PGage]

The argument for a new stadium for the A’s in Oakland is strengthened by how grossly they allowed Al Davis to mangle that place for baseball. My son went to the day game there today, and we have been there often, though we are mostly Giants fans.

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[Michael Ricks]

Mt. Davis ruined the view and the stadium for baseball.  Unfortunately, since the Haas family, ownership has generally sucked.

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