And the latest celebrity to divorce after authoring a book on family and relationships is...

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Kevin M.

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Nov 24, 2012, 10:35:00 PM11/24/12
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... Big Bang Theory frequent guest star Mayim Bialik

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-mayim-bialik-divorce-20121121,0,5206077.story

I think Shannen Doherty should write a book on relationships
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Bradford

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Nov 25, 2012, 12:30:38 AM11/25/12
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  Bialik isn't a guest star, she's a cast member.
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Kevin M.

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Nov 25, 2012, 12:55:34 AM11/25/12
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My bad... thought she was just a semi-regular
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Ed Dravecky

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Nov 25, 2012, 1:29:57 AM11/25/12
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Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My bad... thought she was just a semi-regular

Melissa Rauch and Mayim Bialik have joined the gang on the couch in
the opening credits this season.

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Kevin M.

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Nov 25, 2012, 1:45:35 AM11/25/12
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On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Ed Dravecky <drav...@gmail.com> wrote:
Kevin M. <drunkba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My bad... thought she was just a semi-regular

Melissa Rauch and Mayim Bialik have joined the gang on the couch in
the opening credits this season.

BBT is a series I will try watching down the road. I hear many good things about it, but the first half dozen episodes were just agonizing to me. I've tried watching a few times since, but keep getting tired premises. I want to like the series, but I fear like the work of Joss Whedon, this show might elude me. 
 
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Nov 25, 2012, 1:54:37 AM11/25/12
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Nerd minstrel show.


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Joe Hass

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Nov 25, 2012, 8:42:37 PM11/25/12
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While I understand Mr Coughlin's attitude, I strongly disagree with
it. I've related to Sheldon from episode one. I think the show has
managed to find the right point between laughing with them and
laughing at them.

As for Mr Marousek's comment: someone put together a mix of Kaley
Cuoco's lines in the first season, and it was obvious the writers had
no clue how to write a female character. It was more obvious with Sara
Gilbert, and by season three I was ready to bail on the show after the
writers made Bernadette disappear, only to have Howard mention as an
aside that he broke up with her. When the season ended with Sheldon
meeting Amy, I was extremely nervous that this was not going to end
well.

But over the last two-plus seasons, the writers have found the ability
to really flesh out Penny, as well as create two solid characters in
Amy and Bernadette that have flavor and personality. Mayim Bialik
didn't win that Emmy for nothing.

If I can make a recommendation: find an episode with a strong
Penny/Sheldon arc. The show is starting to go back to Penny/Leonard,
which is so much like Ross and Rachel that I keep waiting for Matt
LeBlanc to make a guest spot.

Melissa P

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Nov 25, 2012, 9:24:20 PM11/25/12
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I pretty much agree with everything Joe (Hass) says.

I think the main reason I like the show so much is because the
producers/writers do a pretty perfect job of capturing scientists as they
really are. I should know. I worked among them for about 30 years. For
example, I giggle whenever Sheldon makes note of the fact that Howard
doesn't have a PhD.

Secondly, the addition of the women really put the show at the top of all
sitcoms currently on the air. They're just as much fun to watch as the men,
adding a "completeness" to the series.

No surprise at all that it's such a hit in syndication.

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PGage

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Nov 25, 2012, 11:13:41 PM11/25/12
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On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Melissa P <takingup...@gmail.com> wrote:
I pretty much agree with everything Joe (Hass) says.

I think the main reason I like the show so much is because the
producers/writers do a pretty perfect job of capturing scientists as they
really are.  I should know.  I worked among them for about 30 years.  For
example, I giggle whenever Sheldon makes note of the fact that Howard
doesn't have a PhD.

Secondly, the addition of the women really put the show at the top of all
sitcoms currently on the air.  They're just as much fun to watch as the men,
adding a "completeness" to the series.

No surprise at all that it's such a hit in syndication.

Just for a little balance - I have worked among scientists for more than 25 years, and I find this show to be almost unwatchable. Almost because the main characters to seem to have a likability factor. I live with people who love this program, so I have heard most of the arguments in favor of it. I have a vague commitment to give it a good fair chance this summer or the next (I think it is on the Netflix), but I am not optimistic (though to be fair, I was unalterably opposed to Scrubs for many years, until I fell in love with it on Netflix).

Joe Hass

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Nov 26, 2012, 9:38:46 AM11/26/12
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And I get this, too: I worked for about six years in the ad business until earlier this year, and there are certain moments in Mad Men that hit spots that I didn't appreciate being hit.

If you're giving the show a chance, I'd strongly suggest starting at season four, work your way to the present, then go back to seasons two and three. Skip season one: with the exception of "The Luminous Fish Effect" which fleshes out the depth of Sheldon, there's not much to see.
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PGage

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Nov 26, 2012, 11:19:10 AM11/26/12
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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Joe Hass <hassg...@gmail.com> wrote:
And I get this, too: I worked for about six years in the ad business until earlier this year, and there are certain moments in Mad Men that hit spots that I didn't appreciate being hit.

If you're giving the show a chance, I'd strongly suggest starting at season four, work your way to the present, then go back to seasons two and three. Skip season one: with the exception of "The Luminous Fish Effect" which fleshes out the depth of Sheldon, there's not much to see.

Well, that is interesting - I have only ever seen a few episodes from season 1, and did not know that it had changed much since then. I will bump it up on my list for this summer. 

Joe Hass

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Nov 26, 2012, 11:30:37 AM11/26/12
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Absolutely. Season one had several issues: they couldn't write for
Penny beyond "dumb blond", they struggled to not make the foursome
look like severe nerds. As someone who is frequently compared to
Sheldon at certain moments, I'm not sure I'd have made it through if I
hadn't completely connected with him.

In addition to all this, the other thing the writers realized was that
the best pairing on the show was Penny and Sheldon, because neither
one was competing with the other, especially at the beginning. Parsons
and Cuoco have a great sense of comedic timing and play off each
other.

As an aside: I watched season one of The Simpsons this week, and it
amazes me how just rough that series was at the start in many ways.
They needed to get their feet wet, which I believe they do in season
two, and by season three, they were cooking with gas.

Dave Sikula

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Nov 26, 2012, 2:48:20 PM11/26/12
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I guess my reply from yesterday got lost in the aether. Suffice it to say, BBT is one of those shows (like HIMYM) that I watch more out of habit than from actually enjoying it.

The whole thing smacks to me of a show written by dumb people imagining what smart people are like. That, and it's fallen victim to the "quirky and colorful supporting character takes over show to its ultimate detriment" syndrome.

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Joe Hass

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Nov 26, 2012, 3:13:32 PM11/26/12
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I disagree strongly. The writers have done a fabulous job of nailing
how "smart" people think and behave and respond. Again, I think you
saw that more in season one than in the show now. Of the seven main
characters, I think they still struggle with what to do with Raj,
mostly because they boxed him in with the "can't speak to women unless
drunk" angle. His interactions with Stewart (the comic store owner)
make me feel like they're desperate for some sort of comic angle for
him, because otherwise he really does become a bad stereotype
(Howard's relationship with Bernadette works for me, probably because
the writers have done a good job of making her just enough like his
mom, and also because Melissa Rauch can do a good Carol Ann Susi
impersonation.

Brad Beam

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Nov 26, 2012, 7:31:03 PM11/26/12
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From: "Joe Hass" <hassg...@gmail.com>

> Absolutely. Season one had several issues: they couldn't write for
> Penny beyond "dumb blond", they struggled to not make the foursome
> look like severe nerds. As someone who is frequently compared to
> Sheldon at certain moments, I'm not sure I'd have made it through if I
> hadn't completely connected with him.

To follow up on what's been said already is this 2010 NPR.org article, which
discusses how the show got better once the writers started involving Penny
in the story:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2010/01/how_degazing_saved_the_big_ban.html

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Kevin M.

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Dec 1, 2012, 6:34:24 PM12/1/12
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Bialik appeared with the Scottish Conan Guy last night. She was obviously not a regular watcher of the show, and there were obviously a lot of off-limits topics (no mention of divorce or of her theories on parenting). Not awkward, but she struggled to play along.
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David Bruggeman

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Dec 1, 2012, 9:29:34 PM12/1/12
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Hmm.  Haven't seen it yet, but I'm guessing she either didn't talk about Craig with her co-stars (who have all been on the show), or their efforts were basically encouraging her to appear.

David


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Bialik appeared with the Scottish Conan Guy last night. She was obviously not a regular watcher of the show, and there were obviously a lot of off-limits topics (no mention of divorce or of her theories on parenting). Not awkward, but she struggled to play along.
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