Another conservatorship battle a-brewin'... "Uhura"
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Bob Jersey
Aug 16, 2021, 10:01:29 AM8/16/21
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It's on the Dog Trainer, which I think I'm locked out of right now...
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Tom Wolper
Aug 16, 2021, 10:13:34 AM8/16/21
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On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 10:01 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
It's on the Dog Trainer, which I think I'm locked out of right now...
People turn news stories into their entertainment all the time. The Britney Spears conservatorship court battle can serve as entertainment because she is still relatively young and not outwardly disabled. She spent years touring and headlining in Las Vegas and earning tens of millions of dollars. As I see from this headline, Nichelle Nichols might be suffering from dementia. That's a completely different story and the court process shouldn't be turned into entertainment.
Bob Jersey
Aug 17, 2021, 6:38:49 PM8/17/21
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She was diagnosed with it in 2018, said this E! Online writer (link) B
Tom Wolper, to moi, in part, August 16th:
PGage
Aug 17, 2021, 8:10:41 PM8/17/21
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I can’t get to this either, has the LAT completely done away with even a few free views each month?
Here is a link to a Daily Beast summary (apparently LAT has the original reporting).
This is the more typical conservatorship story, in CA at least. Even the triangular nature of the conflict is typical - (A: “I should be her conservator, because I am closest relative and B is a manipulator out to get our money” vs B: “I should be conservator because I really care about her and A is an ungrateful family member who only wants money” vs C: “I am her only real friend, and I don’t think she is impaired enough to need a conservator at all.”
Nichelle’s dementia has, sadly, been well known for a while, though that does not mean she necessarily needs a conservator. But a “Free Nichelle” movement would be absurd on its face, as fans are in no position to have an opinion on the merits, and only qualified doctors who have examined the pt have relevant opinions.
It does illustrate again the difficulty of the Spears Conservatorship. On the one hand, she is a young woman who is not demented and unlikely to have a chronic, permanently impairing condition. On the other hand, she plausibly is subject to undue influence from a bad actor who would deprive either her or her heirs of her substantial assets (which probate conservatorship is basically designed to protect people from, which is why there are not a lot of poor or even middle class people in Brittany’s position).
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PGage
Aug 17, 2021, 8:22:26 PM8/17/21
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I see now. They designate some stories as “Subscriber only.” I was still able to read their front page Afghanistan stories, for example.
On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 at 5:10 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:
I can’t get to this either, has the LAT completely done away with even a few free views each month? (SNIP)
Bob Jersey
Aug 19, 2021, 8:42:37 AM8/19/21
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They're all doing it, even the lesser papers I read. (I can complain about how much I pay for them privately IYC) B
PGage, August 17th:
I see now. They designate some stories as “Subscriber only.” I was still able to read their front page Afghanistan stories, for example.
I can’t get to this either, has the LAT completely done away with even a few free views each month? (SNIP)
Tom Wolper
Aug 22, 2021, 1:35:27 PM8/22/21
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On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 8:10 PM PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:
I can’t get to this either, has the LAT completely done away with even a few free views each month?Here is a link to a Daily Beast summary (apparently LAT has the original reporting).This is the more typical conservatorship story, in CA at least. Even the triangular nature of the conflict is typical - (A: “I should be her conservator, because I am closest relative and B is a manipulator out to get our money” vs B: “I should be conservator because I really care about her and A is an ungrateful family member who only wants money” vs C: “I am her only real friend, and I don’t think she is impaired enough to need a conservator at all.”Nichelle’s dementia has, sadly, been well known for a while, though that does not mean she necessarily needs a conservator. But a “Free Nichelle” movement would be absurd on its face, as fans are in no position to have an opinion on the merits, and only qualified doctors who have examined the pt have relevant opinions.
I was able to read the LA Times article today. Most of the article is a history of the lawsuits filed over the conservatorship and questions about how her manager (B above) handled her finances. It was in the news this week because her son (and conservator) sold her Westwood house for $2.2 million. Her son moved her to New Mexico, where he lives and is not making her available to the press or for conventions, which is where she has earned her money for decades. Her former manager seems to want to keep sending her to conventions even though the sale of her house should pay off all debts and keep her comfortable for the rest of her life.
There is no #FreeBritney aspect to this. The court cases were filed years ago and it doesn't seem there are going to be hearings. The court recognized her son as being the right person to hold a conservatorship and they don't seem interested in overturning that in favor of a former manager or friend.
To the extent there is a conflict or "battle," it's because Nichelle and her family didn't draw up specific instructions of what to do in this case. Something similar happened in my life and we were lucky that we could get my mother, while she was in good shape, into an attorney's office to make sure she had an updated will and signed financial and healthcare powers of attorney. That, and cooperative siblings, made it manageable when things took a bad turn. PSA: even though it might make for an uncomfortable conversation, if you have aging parents don't wait for a medical crisis to know if they have wills or can make decisions for power of attorney.
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