Google App Engine - Development Status

[Sam G]

TurboGears Group,

I am wondering about the status of any development to make TG work on
Google App Engine. Is there anything in the pipeline? Does it work
already?

I would have posted in the Google App Engine thread, but it would not
let me.

Thanks,
Sam

[Jorge Vargas]

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Sam G <sgam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> TurboGears Group,
>
> I am wondering about the status of any development to make TG work on
> Google App Engine. Is there anything in the pipeline? Does it work
> already?
>

We are pretty much stuck with the 1000 files issue, Which is a show
stopper for the usual way of turbogears packaging, IE eggs

see:
http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/quotas.html
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=161
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=161#c19

now as you can see from the last link, there is hope with the new
zipimport from Guido. But it is still in dippers.

for now the exact same method used to run pylons works, as appengine
monkey isn't really 100% pylons.
http://code.google.com/p/appengine-monkey/ in fact a wikipage there
for TG will be nice.

An alternative method will be to strip all non-used files with a big
ignore regexp at appengine's config file, but as far a I know no one
has released anything like this.

[Sam G]

Would the zipimport thing help at all?

On Sep 29, 11:19 am, "Jorge Vargas" <jorge.var...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Sam G <sgammo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > TurboGears Group,
>
> > I am wondering about the status of any development to make TG work on
> > Google App Engine. Is there anything in the pipeline? Does it work
> > already?
>
> We are pretty much stuck with the 1000 files issue, Which is a show
> stopper for the usual way of turbogears packaging, IE eggs
>

> see:http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/quotas.htmlhttp://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=161http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=161#c19

>
> now as you can see from the last link, there is hope with the new
> zipimport from Guido. But it is still in dippers.
>
> for now the exact same method used to run pylons works, as appengine

> monkey isn't really 100% pylons.http://code.google.com/p/appengine-monkey/in fact a wikipage there

[Jorge Vargas]

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Sam G <sgam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Would the zipimport thing help at all?
>

you will have to try that. As far as I know no one has do it (at least
done it and release it) if I recall correctly the use of __file__ is
what makes it a problem.

I think the best approach right now is "cleaning" the install. The
biggest issue is that setuptools is "file hungry" that is it creates
about 6-7 files per egg, and since TG uses a lot of them that's about
300 files that are useless in a GAE deployment environment. So
creating a script that will delete all the cruft is ideal, in fact if
I where to try this I'll write it as a patch to google-app-monkey, so
you can have all the goodies of setuptools for development and when
it's time to deploy create a stripped down version to load into GAE.

Which basically means creating a "tg minimal" library, this was
discusses and the points outlined when GAE first came out, in this
thread. http://groups.google.com/group/turbogears-trunk/browse_thread/thread/cf04f69063ea5fc8/

[Werner F. Bruhin]

Has anyone done anything on this in the mean time?

If yes, is there a tutorial or some documentation available for it.

Werner

[Mark Ramm]

Yea, 2.1 is pretty much figured out on GAE, but it's not been
officially announced or anything like that.

--Mark Ramm

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[werner]

Mark,

Mark Ramm wrote:
> Yea, 2.1 is pretty much figured out on GAE, but it's not been
> officially announced or anything like that.
>

Great, another reason to keep persisting on learning TB 2.

Werner