Re: TurboCASH with WineTools

[Philip Copeman]

This is really exciting!

I am copying this to our developer group, as there are some of them more
competent than me. To evaluate this.

I am willing to try this if you can lead me through it. I have a copy of
UBUNTU installed on my desktop, But I am a serious idiot when it comes
to Linux and even worse when it comes to Wine. If you can get ME through
it, we can get through any accountant. We need to create a really simple
install. This would be an immediate benefit to Linux and to TurboCASH.

Can you give us a step by step guide on how to do it? Please copy the
instructions to this list

Joachim von Thadden wrote:

>Hi Philip,
>
>I do not know whether there are still attempts to make TurboCASH running
>under wine but i want to inform you that I just installed it with
>WineTools and made and printed an invoice. So I think the Software is
>quite usable with that setup. If you have any further questions about
>that, just drop me a line. I'm the maintainer of WineTools:
>http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
>
>Regards
> Joachim von thadden
>
>

[S. Schauenburg]

Please DO NOT use WineTools. They are not supported by the Wine
developers, so they won't respond to any requests regarding these
'tools'. Furthermore they actively say NOT to use WineTools.
A 'native' version of TurboCASH would be great for linux. If you are
really thinking about using Wine to run TurboCASH on linux, you must
be prepared for the concequences. Any update with Wine *might* make
TurboCASH unworkable (a regression). TurboCASH would never be as fast
as on Windows. There is no guarantee that the plugins for TurboCASH
would work.

Regards,

S. Schauenburg

[Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho]

I second that.

Wine is very difficult to set up correctly and doesn't work well on
all computers. Not for linux beginners.

There is a movement on the Lazarus community to help into porting the
software to Lazarus. With modifications the same source code can be
compiled with Delphi and Lazarus, so you are not creating an entire
new software, but rather adding multiplatform support for it. I do
have active GUI projects that can be compiled with both Delphi and
Lazarus without problems.

It's just a question of modifying the code and adding some ifdefs.
Also, packages are the most problematic thing, as their conversion
process is much harder then the VCL code.

--
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho

[Andrew Higgs]

Yes, I second this Felipe.

I have been asking question about assisting with a port to Lazarus and
getting little or no response. Everyone seems hell bent on using wine.

Lazarus would give us the ability to produce Windows, Linux and Mac
versions from the same code base. And the current Delphi developers
would remain happy as it is familiar territory.

What could be better than this?

[Philip Copeman]

Bottom Posting my answer

1) Wine
2) Linux Roadmap
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I certainly beleive that the only Long term strategy for TurboCASH is an SOA based one and we are doing the following:

1) Making a Firebrid version of the database and pumping the data to and from the current TurboCASH Database

2) Making a MYSQL version and a doing the same thing. We will release these as sub projects shortly.

I will release the roadmap shortly

Wine however does present us with an interesting short term solution. My attempts to communicate with Wine HQ led me to an invitation to pay them a whole lot of money to make TurboCASH work under Codeweavers and then an invitation to get all our Linux users to give them $35. As for Wine Tools, Joachim is offering to help us in the spirit of Open Source and we have nothing to lose giving him a chance. Something may come of it.

Lets keep an open Mind.
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I want you to know that we are moving froward on this. We have certainly not ignored Lazarus. Lazarus prgrammers will shortly have an opportunity to show us their stuff.

Check out our Linux Roadmap and feel free to make a contribution here:

http://www.box.co.za/wiki/index.php/Roadmap_Linux

[Karl Fischer]

I remember getting Turbocash running with Crossover Office ...
I still had Screenshots and Everything :)

Karl

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[Karen Pollock]

 

Does anyone know where I can find a COM object for Turbo Cash that I can use with VB ?

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Karen Pollock wrote:

 

Does anyone know where I can find a COM object for Turbo Cash that I can use with VB ?

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[Joachim von Thadden]

Am Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 02:03:56AM +0100 schrieb S. Schauenburg:
>
> Please DO NOT use WineTools. They are not supported by the Wine
> developers, so they won't respond to any requests regarding these
> 'tools'. Furthermore they actively say NOT to use WineTools.

This is definitely not true. There was a big discussion about that and
you are right to say that WineTools installations are not supportet by
Wine-Developers. But there were only a few persons on the wine-devel
list who did not want to see a program like WineTools in any way. On
the other hand there were supporters saying that WineTools is a good
way for newcomers to use their programs with Wine.

To come to a conclusion: WineTools can run TurboCASH out of the box. If
something does not work you can not go to the developers and expect any
assistance.

Regards
Joachim von Thadden
--
"Never touch a running system! Never run a touching system?
Never run a touchy system!!!"

[Joachim von Thadden]

Hello,

a request first: Don't write html mails, please. If you do, then
configure your mail program to send the mail html *and* plain text. It
is very annoying fo users not using a heavy weight mail program to read
and answer html mails. Thanks.

Am Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 10:40:15AM +0200 schrieb Philip Copeman:
> Wine however does present us with an interesting short term solution.

This is the purpose of WineTools. To be a short to medium term
replacement, until migration is finished.

> My attempts to communicate with Wine HQ led me to an invitation to pay
> them a whole lot of money to make TurboCASH work under Codeweavers and
> then an invitation to get all our Linux users to give them $35. As for

Uhh, I did not know they were making money in that way. Interesting...
I should think about that ;-)

> Wine Tools, Joachim is offering to help us in the spirit of Open Source
> and we have nothing to lose giving him a chance. Something may come of
> it.

Well, we don't want to hang it too high: I just tried it with our
standard configuration which makes heavy usage of native Windows DLLs
(which is the reason why no wine developer can help in case of a
malfunction as this leads to an undebuggable situation). And it worked
out of the box. I did not make any heavy testing or anything else, I
juts tried to make an invoice and print it. So it seems to be usable but
testing of that must be performed by somebody who is familiar with the
program.

To use it:
- I tested with wine-0.9.1
- note that you have to have at least a copy of win98 spare for this
installation as this is required by DCOM98 and IE6
- download and install WineTools
- be a normal user and type "cd ~"
- go through the "Base setup"
- go through the installation of "Windows System Software"
- go through the installation of "MS TrueType Core fonts"
- go to the "Install tested SW" menu
- select "Database"-"DBCrab" and install
- select "Database"-"Borland DB Engine" and install
- quit WineTools
- download "TurboCASHFull374.exe"
- on the command line type "wine TurboCASHFull374.exe"
- follow the installation
- type "wineboot"
- run TurboCASH by the command line "cd ~/.wine/c/TCash3; wine Tcash3.exe"
- have fun while testing - note that it can alway crash

> Lets keep an open Mind.

Regards

[Philip Copeman]

1) I am not that familiar wiht Codeweavers/Wine politics. Could be that they see you as competition for a good business fro them.

2) I am gogint to try your instructiosns, but ut siu going to be the scafriest thing I ahve ever done in Linux (My previous high point was to go t level 2 on the asteroids program)

3) I don't know what you mean by HTML email - I use Firefox on Windows - I tell you guys the Linux/Windows gulf is HUGE.

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