Keyboard shortcut for moving action?

[Gareth]

Hi all,

I'm new to Tudumo, but loving it. I had to abandon OmniFocus when I
switched from the Mac to Windows and so far Tudumo has been a great
substitute.

One thing that I'd like to be able to do is quickly move an action
into a project (heading). I often just dump actions into my list
using the Quick Add box (which rocks!), but then when I return to my
list to sort through the items and file them away I spend a lot of
time dragging up and down through several screenful's of actions to
drop the new action into the correct project since I have a lot of
projects and actions. I'd like to be able to select an action and
somehow move it to the proper project using the keyboard to type in a
partial project name. Is there a way to do that? If not, how do most
folks file away their actions?

Thanks!

[lida]

You can move the selected item with Ctrl+Shift+Up/Down. Note that this
also works for many items at once (multi-select with shift-click or
ctrl-click).

I prefer tags to mark the project for my todos since tags can be
assigned directly in the Quick Add box and provide nice filtering.

[Richard Watson]

It would be nice to add to a heading directly in the QA window, but no
really slick method has come up yet. One issue is that it has to be
easier and faster than just doing it in the main window, otherwise the
QA becomes the slower-and-more-fiddly window!

In the main window, two methods:
1) Ctrl-f to find, type a few characters of the heading, click on it
with the mouse, ctrl-n to add an action. Not really more than 2
seconds, I'd guess. Could be improved by tabbing to the main window.
2) Ctrl-shift-h to hide everything except headings, key down to the
heading you want, ctrl-n for a new action.

Regards,
Richard

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[Gareth]

On Jan 24, 7:18 am, lida <dr.david.li...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> You can move the selected item with Ctrl+Shift+Up/Down. Note that this
> also works for many items at once (multi-select with shift-click or
> ctrl-click).

Thanks, I did find that shortcut, but it's still a lot of shifting up
& down. It'd be great to select and action and hit "m" (for move, or
something similar) and start typing the project name, get a partial
match on the heading text and press enter to move it.

> I prefer tags to mark the project for my todos since tags can be
> assigned directly in the Quick Add box and provide nice filtering.

That's an interesting idea. I'd been using tags for contexts, but
maybe I should re-think my strategy.

Thanks for the response!

[Gareth]

On Jan 24, 9:22 am, Richard Watson <rich...@tudumo.com> wrote:
> It would be nice to add to a heading directly in the QA window, but no
> really slick method has come up yet.  One issue is that it has to be
> easier and faster than just doing it in the main window, otherwise the
> QA becomes the slower-and-more-fiddly window!

Actually, I don't even need to add the heading in the QA window. I'm
usually just chucking in thoughts with the QA window, but when I want
to spend a few minutes sorting my list it would be nice to make the
organizing step more efficient. When I'm looking at the list, I like
that I can use the arrow keys to navigate through the list and use the
Ctrl+T, Ctrl+D, etc. shortcuts to tag and date an action. It'd be
great if something like Ctrl+M allowed me to move an action to a
particular heading.

>
> In the main window, two methods:
> 1) Ctrl-f to find, type a few characters of the heading, click on it
> with the mouse, ctrl-n to add an action. Not really more than 2
> seconds, I'd guess. Could be improved by tabbing to the main window.
> 2) Ctrl-shift-h to hide everything except headings, key down to the
> heading you want, ctrl-n for a new action.
>
> Regards,
> Richard

Thanks for those tips. That works great when I'm adding items while
looking at the big list view, I find that I use the QA window more for
adding items and then end up sorting them later. Perhaps I need to
just change my workflow to do some processing while capturing
thoughts.

-Gareth

[Richard Watson]

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Gareth <gareth...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually, I don't even need to add the heading in the QA window.  I'm
> usually just chucking in thoughts with the QA window, but when I want
> to spend a few minutes sorting my list it would be nice to make the
> organizing step more efficient

Agreed. I think you're doing it right so I wouldn't change the way you
work, rather find an improvement for Tudumo, if possible. Whatever
'feature' that helps that, should be compared against:
1) Select-actions
2) Ctrl-x them
3) Navigate to heading
4) Ctrl-p

So, what's a faster/more obvious workflow? Ctrl-M, type three letters
of heading, enter?

Regards,
Richard

[Gareth]

> Agreed. I think you're doing it right so I wouldn't change the way you
> work, rather find an improvement for Tudumo, if possible. Whatever
> 'feature' that helps that, should be compared against:
> 1) Select-actions
> 2) Ctrl-x them
> 3) Navigate to heading
> 4) Ctrl-p
>
> So, what's a faster/more obvious workflow?  Ctrl-M, type three letters
> of heading, enter?
>
> Regards,
> Richard

Yeah, personally I would find this more efficient:

1. Select actions
2. Ctrl-M
3. Type enough of heading to get a match
4. Hit enter

To demonstrate the advantage, let's follow the current steps:

1. Select actions.
-- This is the same either way. I generally arrow up / arrow down to
select stuff.

2. Ctrl-x to put the actions on the clipboard.
-- OK

3. Navigate to heading.
-- This is where it starts to feel clunky to me. To keep a keyboard
driven workflow I do this:
3a. Press Ctrl-F to open the search box to find a heading
3b. Type enough to get a small subset of things that match the
heading I'm looking for.
3c. Press tab twice to get out of the Find box and into the list.
3d. Navigate to the appropriate heading
3e. Press the spacebar to focus in on the heading
-- I find this necessary because otherwise when you Paste in the next
step, your action isn't displayed if it doesn't contain any words from
the search window. Cognitively, I find that confusing since I'm
unsure if the action was really pasted. However, if I focus into a
heading using the spacebar, then the find window goes away and when I
paste I see the action added to by heading's sublist.

4. Press Ctrl-V to paste in the action

5. Press the spacebar to go back to the main list and repeat for the
next actions that I want to move.

Thanks a bunch for your response and taking the time to consider
this. I hope the feedback is helpful, it's a great application.

[Orson Kellogg]

I also would like a keyboard shortcut for moving items. For what it's worth, cutting and then pasting feels clunky and -- although it may not be reasonable -- less secure than an application-specific *move* command.

Best regards,
Orson Kellogg

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