JMATK update

[TSCM/SO Group]

New story out:

http://www.gloucestertimes.com/punews/local_story_354223750.html

 

FWIW: Its amazing at how twisted a news story can be, TV can be more factual than a newspaper at times but never the less its always about an angle

Of course nothing ever gets mentioned about the good people do, only the bad. I think its humorous that the local PD and ad hoc’s believe they can verify someone’s service with agencies that stay quiet for all good reasons. What’s not humorous is that the locals get tangled up in a business deal that is a civil matter, not criminal, If they had only been so diligent on 911 at Logan airport……….

The same locals wouldn’t even follow up on a scam wire money via e bay sale deal gone south

 

Tell the same locals that someone is fraudulently using credit cards for pure profit as criminals and they don’t have time to deal w it. BUT they’ll jump on a report from the Chamber of Commerce?????? WTF??? The reliable group that provides a donut and coffee for 40.00 in exchange for a business owner being allowed the prestigious opportunity to give a 30 second elevator speech on a dog grooming business………Go Figure

I could soap box for hours on complacency within the system but I believe I would be preaching to the choir……….

 

Most of us have witnessed or watched real drama and wrongdoings in this field but if you read between the lines of the particular story that has unfolded the whole scenario is lame As wiremen or sweepers we have always erred on the side of caution with regard to all business transactions. It’s not a bad way to do business.

 

Hypothetically speaking

If a piece of gear made it to a non friendly country and that gear was used to detect good guys gear that’s looking for bad guys, who would show up on the sellers front door in the US the state dept or the family of one of our boys that got waxed while working downrange due to opsec compromise?????????????

 

Lots of things to consider. Without digging into personal conflicts I’ve never heard of anyone getting screwed on a piece sold by JM, and I’ve been on the list for over 7 years   Albeit we have seen some winners come and go (no names or companies mentioned)

 

I think gross overexaggeration is in the root of the reported story despite all we have seen in the past

 

Rant mode OfF

 

 

 

 

 

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[socalsweeps]

Todays news you wrap yesterdays fish in.  The less discussion there is about this incident will foster less gossip. 

[kondrak]

I believe its yesterdays news you wrap todays fish in. (grin)

socalsweeps wrote:
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> Todays news you wrap yesterdays fish in. The less discussion there is
> about this incident will foster less gossip.
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[martykaiser]

Thanks for the input Mitch.  I have been through the law enforcement/press system and I can say without hesitation it is absolutely PUTRID!  My battle cost me over $350,000.00 in 1980 dollars (over $1,000,000.00 in today's dollars) to exonerate myself.  In spite of that the intel community turned against me and business in the CM area fell to zero and remains so as of today.  They are NEVER wrong!   Onward, Marty --- On Wed, 12/23/09, TSCM/SO Group <Mit...@tscmusa.com> wrote:

From: TSCM/SO Group <Mit...@tscmusa.com> Subject: [TSCM-L] {4448} JMATK update To: tscm-...@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 8:00 PM New story out: http://www.gloucestertimes.com/punews/local_story_354223750.html

FWIW: Its amazing at how twisted a news story can be, TV can be more factual than a newspaper at times but never the less its always about an angle

Of course nothing ever gets mentioned about the good people do, only the bad. I think its humorous that the local PD and ad hoc’s believe they can verify someone’s service with agencies that stay quiet for all good reasons. What’s not humorous is that the locals get tangled up in a business deal that is a civil matter, not criminal, If they had only been so diligent on 911 at Logan airport……….

The same locals wouldn’t even follow up on a scam wire money via e bay sale deal gone south

Tell the same locals that someone is fraudulently using credit cards for pure profit as criminals and they don’t have time to deal w it. BUT they’ll jump on a report from the Chamber of Commerce?????? WTF??? The reliable group that provides a donut and coffee for 40.00 in exchange for a business owner being allowed the prestigious opportunity to give a 30 second elevator speech on a dog grooming business………Go Figure

I could soap box for hours on complacency within the system but I believe I would be preaching to the choir……….

Most of us have witnessed or watched real drama and wrongdoings in this field but if you read between the lines of the particular story that has unfolded the whole scenario is lame As wiremen or sweepers we have always erred on the side of caution with regard to all business transactions. It’s not a bad way to do business.

Hypothetically speaking

If a piece of gear made it to a non friendly country and that gear was used to detect good guys gear that’s looking for bad guys, who would show up on the sellers front door in the US the state dept or the family of one of our boys that got waxed while working downrange due to opsec compromise?????????????

Lots of things to consider. Without digging into personal conflicts I’ve never heard of anyone getting screwed on a piece sold by JM, and I’ve been on the list for over 7 years   Albeit we have seen some winners come and go (no names or companies mentioned)

I think gross overexaggeration is in the root of the reported story despite all we have seen in the past

Rant mode OfF

Mitch Davis TSCM/Special Operations Group 20 Music Square West,Suite 208

Nashville , TN 37203 USA

615 251 0441 Fax 615 523 0300 mit...@tscmusa.com www.tscmusa.com

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[martykaiser]

Thanks for the input.  I have been through the law enforcement/press system and I can say without hesitation it is absolutely PUTRID!  My battle cost me over $350,000.00 in 1980 dollars (over $1,000,000.00 in today's dollars) to exonerate myself.  In spite of that the intel community turned against me and business in the CM area fell to zero and remains so as of today.  They are NEVER wrong!   Onward, Marty --- On Wed, 12/23/09, socalsweeps <socal...@aol.com> wrote:

From: socalsweeps <socal...@aol.com> Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {4449} JMATK update To: tscm-...@googlegroups.com

[martykaiser]

Thanks for the input.  I have been through the law enforcement/press system and I can say without hesitation it is absolutely PUTRID!  My battle cost me over $350,000.00 in 1980 dollars (over $1,000,000.00 in today's dollars) to exonerate myself.  In spite of that the intel community turned against me and business in the CM area fell to zero and remains so as of today.  They are NEVER wrong!

Onward, Marty --- On Thu, 12/24/09, kondrak <kon...@phreaker.net> wrote:

From: kondrak <kon...@phreaker.net> Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {4450} JMATK update To: tscm-...@googlegroups.com

[Bill McDonnell]

I live in Ohio and will do whatever I can to help Jim. Please call Jon H. Rion in Dayton, Ohio. He is a attorney and specializes in beating the Government at their own game.

       Bill

[James M. Atkinson]

They are often wrong, and do not see things that they should, which is
why they hire free lance folks like myself to come in behind their own
people and locate and identify arcane, and often not so arcane
weaknesses in technical security that their own "highly skilled"
technical people had totally missed when they passed though the area.

More to follow...

-jma

martykaiser wrote:
> Thanks for the input. I have been through the law enforcement/press
> system and I can say without hesitation it is absolutely PUTRID! My
> battle cost me over $350,000.00 in 1980 dollars (over $1,000,000.00 in
> today's dollars) to exonerate myself. In spite of that the intel
> community turned against me and business in the CM area fell to zero
> and remains so as of today. They are NEVER wrong!
> Onward, Marty
>
>