Re: SUB: RESTORE RESPECT AND DIGNITY OF IIISLA AND SURVEYOR FRATERNITY in respect of Volkswagen case

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Dear Friends,
All of you were awaiting the much wanted apology letter received by the overseeing committee  from M/s Lally Motors and some of you had wanted it from me and my overseeing committee. However let me make it very clear that the overseeing committee had been formed on the request of aggrieved member and the committee members were selected on the very recommendation of the aggrieved member who happens to be our Chapter Chairman. Each member had been recommended by our worthy Chapter Chairman who approached Mr. R P Bhasin before any of office bearers of Punjab Chapter and local unit which clearly shows his trust in Mr. R P Bhasin above all of us. Now I am feeling compelled to share the message received from Mr. R P Bhasin along with the much wanted apology letter & video clips on persistent demand of the followers(some of them are currently contesting) of Mr. UPS Sachdeva whereas Mr. Bhasin had suggested that we should avoid making public this and supporting evidences during this sensitive environment of elections to maintain the dignity and harmony among Punjab surveyors. Please find attached the message and supporting evidences.

INDER PAL SINGH
Officiating Secretary
Punjab Chapter

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 12:08 PM 'Sanjeev Shukla' via Insurance Surveyors India <insurance-su...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Dear All,

InderpaL JI,THIS IS YOUR MORAL DUTY AS AN OFFICE BEARER AND HEAD OF THE COMMITTEE TO REPLY THIS MAIL. 

SANJEEV KUMAR
9814030036


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Subject: Re: SUB: RESTORE RESPECT AND DIGNITY OF IIISLA AND SURVEYOR FRATERNITY in respect of Volkswagen case

 
Dear Sh. Inderpal ji,

Please refer to trailing mail dated 29/09/2020 of Sh. K.S.Anand, wherein you are requested to provide copy of unconditional apology letter of M/S Volkswagen, Ludhiana maintaining dignity and respect of Surveyor fraternity. Long time has passed & you and your overseeing Committee head Sh. R.P. Bhasin are silent and not providing copy of same to IIISLA members and aggrieved Surveyor till date.
You and your team mates are contestants for IIISLA Punjab Chapter and IIILA North Zone.  
If you have not received unconditional apology letter, Kindly through light: Why Surveyors should cast their Vote in your favor when you have compromised the dignity of whole fraternity to a workshop, although Surveyors supported your call for strike of one week.
WE SURVEYORS ARE LOOKING FOR LEADERS/REPRESENTATIVES WHO CAN FIGHT FOR THE SELF RESPECT AND DIGNITY OF PROFESSION AND PROTECT OUR RIGHTS.
TILL DATE YOU HAVE NOT DROPPED EVEN A SINGLE LINE MESSAGE IN YES OR NO WHETHER UNCONDITIONAL APOLOGY LETTER IS RECEIVED BY YOU. AS AN RESPONSIBLE OFFICE BEARER  PLEASE SHARE SAME, IF YES. 

VARUN CHANDOK
SURVEYOR AND LOSS ASSESSOR
902, BASANT AVENUE, ADJ. DUGRI PHASE II, LUDHIANA 
98140-27787 


On Tuesday, 29 September, 2020, 08:59:06 pm IST, Ks Anand <insur...@gmail.com> wrote:


Respected IIISLA Punjab Chapter Secretary,
Hope this mail will find you in good health and high spirits!
I would like to bring the following facts for your kind attention and actions towards the unprecedented episode of misbehave reeked with threats by the representative of M/S Lally Motors Ltd. (Authorized dealer of Volkswagen Ludhiana) with our IIISLA Ludhiana Unit member.
Honorable Sir, you constituted an overseeing committee on 24/08/2020 and declared committee with around 26 IIISLA members all over the Punjab with the reins in hands of matured IIISLA member Sh. Rishi Bhasin. A call was given to IIISLA members/surveyors for co-operation and to not to conduct any survey at M/S Lally Motors Ltd. and at its subsidiaries all over Punjab in protest. Meetings were held at the apathy of committee head with some of chosen immature members as per his wish, even, without information to Unit Coordinator Ludhiana (Office Bearer of IIISLA) and aggrieved Surveyor.  On 26/08/2020, Mr. Rishi Bhasin wrote a mail, the true extract of which is reproduced as under:
Dear Chandrashekhar Kalib ji,
Greetings!
Long time to see. Sending apology letter in haste appears to cover up the issue and run the dealerships. First misbehave and show high handedness and then issue apology is a mockery, I would say. Termination of a low level employee is mere a scapegoat and bait thrown before us to hush up the matter. 
This won’t work this time at all. 
Thank you,
RP Bhasin” 
 
Thereafter, matter was said to have been resolved and a message was received on 30/08/2020 by your office and Overseeing Committee Head on Whats App group. Respected Overseeing Committee head confirmed on Whats App group that he has resolved the matter and received the apology letter. Committee members requested him to share the same but he gave submission that it will be submitted to Chapter. As such, in official procedural way, the committee by its design, stands dissolved thereafter with your call. Then, one of IIISLA members, Mr. Varun Chandok wrote a mail to you on 31/08/2020 with cc to me which is also reproduced below: 
 
Dear Sir,
Please refer to your mail wherein Overseeing Committee was formed by your office. Now, I have come to know from Whats App group that Overseeing Committee has respectfully resolved the matter with M/S Lally Motors by obtaining unconditional apology mail and have restored dignity of Surveyor fraternity. 
 
You are requested to guide all the surveyor members of IIISLA Punjab Chapter as to whether surveys at M/S Lally Motors and its subsidiaries at Punjab are to conduct or not? As, this is an official call by Punjab Chapter Secretary, IIISLA. 
An early confirmation from your office will be highly appreciable.
 With Best Regards, 
VARUN CHANDOK 
SURVEYOR AND LOSS ASSESSOR,
902, BASANT AVENUE, ADJ. DUGRI PHASE II, LUDHIANA 
98140-27787” 
 
Honorable Secretary, I am of the opinion that after such a long time of nearly one month, an unconditional apology letter from culprit dealer has been received and the same will be with you as narrated above. You are requested to share that apology letter with IIISLA members who stood during that period of thick and thin with our association and aggrieved Surveyor as a rock. If you have still not received the same, kindly revert with single line reply. It will be of higher integrity of your prestigious office to gain faith in our community. You are once again reminded that this matter pertains to respect and dignity of IIISLA and Surveyor fraternity.
Now, I have learnt from my sources and it is to bring to your kind notice that your Ex-Committee head is regularly visiting Authorized dealers with some of his chosen surveyor friends with intent to shift business of UIIC to private players, wherein they will have hand in pockets, as usual, with private insurers. This will bring disrespect to the image of IIISLA. We are licensed from IRDA for providing claim services with full integrity & impartiality and not for the purpose of procuring business or protecting interest of any particular underwriter(s). If any underwriter requires help w.r.t. labour schedule, policy interpretation matter or any technical help, they can contact IIISLA Punjab Chapter or Ludhiana Unit. As, a few Surveyors along with Ex Committee head are moving along with UIIC Officials (in this case), it clearly shows some black sheep are behaving like goons or brokers. This will definitely defame our holy body IIISLA amongst other market players. You are heading presently and I request you to give a show cause notice to such persons under code of ethics.
This mail is being sent to UIIC officials for a word of cautious and CC to office for records.
@UIIC Office: Please note that our body IIISLA (promoted by IRDAI and recognized by GIC) have Ludhiana Unit and Punjab Chapter for your assistance in case of any necessary technical help related to Survey profession. Our Punjab Chapter body has 450 members with expertise in different field. However, as per Code of Ethics, our august body is not meant or should not be used to help any particular insurer in marketing of your company or procuring business.
If you require any technical help, you can contact IIISLA Punjab Chapter Chairman Sh. U.P.S. Sachdeva (98140-85859) Mr. Parveen Kumar Goyal Punjab Chapter council member myself IIISLA Ludhiana Unit Coordinator and Dy. Coordinator Mr. Ravish Talwar (98721-17702). Our Punjab Chapter is elected body with seven executive members and Unit has eight nominated members. Your present and past officers have been Hon’ble guests in our Seminars and they are well aware of promotion of our technical activities. By way of pick and choose method, by your officials, for visiting dealers, for undesirable acts, give negative impression of your company and our body IIISLA as well. Our IIISLA members have certain code of ethics. If your company needs any help you can contact office bearers which are also available on Public domain www iiisla.co.in. instead of applying undermining tools which tend to create friction among fraternity.
This is for your information.
With due regards,
K S Anand (98140-31523)
Ludhiana Unit Coordinator
 
 
 
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Dear Ramandeep, 

I have just posted the material sent to me by the committee incharge. If you are feeling hurt then blame your friends who were knocking my door quite regularly. Moreover please don't try to find a match for me as I have already completed half century of years. 

Thanks and regards

Inder Pal Singh
Officiating Secretary
Punjab Chapter


On Mon, 26 Oct 2020, 07:47 Ramandeep Ahluwalia, <r.s.ahluwal...@gmail.com> wrote:
DEAR ALL MEMBERS,
I ENDORSE THE COMMENTS PASSED BY MR. VARUN CHANDOK. I REQUEST INDERPAL
SINGH TO BE GENTLY AND NOT TRY TO MAKE SUCH ILLEGAL/UNLAW FUL COMMENTS
ON SUCH SITES. HE SHOULD PLEASE CONSULT SOME LAWYER WHILE PASSING SUCH
COMMENTS AND ISSUES ON BOARD. REST PLEASE CONTEST WITH TRUE FAITH IN
FATERNITY AS SUCH ACTS WOULD SPOIL YOUR REPUTATION. BEING TOO YOUNG
ITS MY HUMBLE REQUEST TO INDERPAL SINGH

RAMANDEEP SINGH AHLUWALIA
RTI ACTIVIST AND INSURANCE SURVEYOR AND LOSS ASSESSOR
KHANNA
MOBILE NO 9464500405

On 10/24/20, 'Varun Chandok' via Punjab Surveyors

<punjabs...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Sh. Inderpal ji,
>
> Please refer totrailing mail dated 29/09/2020 of Sh. K.S.Anand, wherein you
> are requested toprovide copy of unconditional apology letter of M/S
> Volkswagen, Ludhianamaintaining dignity and respect of Surveyor fraternity.
> Long time has passed &you and your overseeing Committee head Sh. R.P. Bhasin
> are silent and notproviding copy of same to IIISLA members and aggrieved
> Surveyor till date.
>
> Youand your team mates are contestants for IIISLA Punjab Chapter and IIILA
> NorthZone.
> If you have not received unconditional apology letter, Kindlythrough light:

> Why Surveyors should cast their Vote in your favor when you havecompromised
> the dignity of whole fraternity to a workshop, although Surveyors
> supportedyour call for strike of one week.
> WESURVEYORS ARE LOOKING FOR LEADERS/REPRESENTATIVES WHO CAN FIGHT FOR THE
> SELF RESPECT ANDDIGNITY OF PROFESSION AND PROTECT OUR RIGHTS.
> TILLDATE YOU HAVE NOT DROPPED EVEN A SINGLE LINE MESSAGE IN YES OR NO
> WHETHER UNCONDITIONALAPOLOGY LETTER IS RECEIVED BY YOU. AS AN RESPONSIBLE

> OFFICE BEARER  PLEASE SHARE SAME, IF YES.
> VARUNCHANDOKSURVEYOR AND LOSS ASSESSOR

> 902, BASANT AVENUE, ADJ. DUGRI PHASE II, LUDHIANA
> 98140-27787
>
>     On Tuesday, 29 September, 2020, 08:59:06 pm IST, Ks Anand
> <insur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> RespectedIIISLA Punjab Chapter Secretary,
>
> Hope this mail will find you in goodhealth and high spirits!
>
> I would like to bring the followingfacts for your kind attention and actions
> towards the unprecedented episode ofmisbehave reeked with threats by the
> representative of M/S Lally Motors Ltd.(Authorized dealer of Volkswagen

> Ludhiana) with our IIISLA Ludhiana Unitmember.
>
> Honorable Sir, you constituted anoverseeing committee on 24/08/2020 and
> declared committee with around 26 IIISLAmembers all over the Punjab with the
> reins in hands of matured IIISLA memberSh. Rishi Bhasin. A call was given to
> IIISLA members/surveyors for co-operationand to not to conduct any survey at
> M/S Lally Motors Ltd. and at itssubsidiaries all over Punjab in protest.
> Meetings were held at the apathy ofcommittee head with some of chosen
> immature members as per his wish, even, withoutinformation to Unit

> Coordinator Ludhiana (Office Bearer of IIISLA) and aggrievedSurveyor.  On
> 26/08/2020, Mr. RishiBhasin wrote a mail, the true extract of which is

> reproduced as under:
>
> “Dear Chandrashekhar Kalib ji,
>
> Greetings!
>
> Long time to see. Sending apology letter in hasteappears to cover up the
> issue and run the dealerships. First misbehave and showhigh handedness and
> then issue apology is a mockery, I would say. Terminationof a low level
> employee is mere a scapegoat and bait thrown before us to hushup the
> matter.
>
> This won’t workthis time at all.
>
> Thank you,
>
> RP Bhasin”
>
>
>
> Thereafter, matter was said to have been resolved anda message was received
> on 30/08/2020 by your office and Overseeing Committee Headon Whats App
> group. Respected Overseeing Committee head confirmed on Whats Appgroup that
> he has resolved the matter and received the apology letter.Committee members
> requested him to share the same but he gave submission thatit will be

> submitted to Chapter. As such, in official procedural way, the committeeby
> its design, stands dissolved thereafter with your call. Then, one of
> IIISLAmembers, Mr. Varun Chandok wrote a mail to you on 31/08/2020 with cc
> to me whichis also reproduced below:
>
>
>
> “Dear Sir,
>
> Pleaserefer to your mail wherein Overseeing Committee was formed by your
> office. Now,I have come to know from Whats App group that Overseeing
> Committee hasrespectfully resolved the matter with M/S Lally Motors by
> obtainingunconditional apology mail and have restored dignity of
> Surveyorfraternity.
>
>
>
> You are requested to guide all thesurveyor members of IIISLA Punjab Chapter
> as to whether surveys at M/S LallyMotors and its subsidiaries at Punjab are
> to conduct or not? As, this is anofficial call by Punjab Chapter Secretary,
> IIISLA.
>
> An early confirmation from youroffice will be highly appreciable.

>
>  With Best Regards,
>
> VARUNCHANDOK
>
> SURVEYORAND LOSS ASSESSOR,
>
> 902,BASANT AVENUE, ADJ. DUGRI PHASE II, LUDHIANA
>
> 98140-27787”
>
>
>
> Honorable Secretary, I am of the opinionthat after such a long time of
> nearly one month, an unconditional apologyletter from culprit dealer has
> been received and the same will be with you asnarrated above. You are
> requested to share that apology letter with IIISLAmembers who stood during
> that period of thick and thin with our association andaggrieved Surveyor as
> a rock. If you have still not received the same, kindlyrevert with single
> line reply. It will be of higher integrity of yourprestigious office to gain

> faith in our community. You are once again reminded that this matter
> pertains to respect anddignity of IIISLA and Surveyor fraternity.
>
> Now, I have learnt from my sourcesand it is to bring to your kind notice
> that your Ex-Committee head is regularlyvisiting Authorized dealers with
> some of his chosen surveyor friends withintent to shift business of UIIC to
> private players, wherein they will havehand in pockets, as usual, with
> private insurers. This will bring disrespect tothe image of IIISLA. We are
> licensed from IRDA for providing claim serviceswith full integrity &
> impartiality and not for the purpose of procuring businessor protecting
> interest of any particular underwriter(s). If any underwriterrequires help
> w.r.t. labour schedule, policy interpretation matter or anytechnical help,
> they can contact IIISLA Punjab Chapter or Ludhiana Unit. As, afew Surveyors
> along with Ex Committee head are moving along with UIIC Officials(in this

> case), it clearly shows some black sheep are behaving like goons orbrokers.
> This will definitely defame our holy body IIISLA amongst other
> marketplayers. You are heading presently and I request you to give a show
> causenotice to such persons under code of ethics.
>
> This mail is being sent to UIIC officialsfor a word of cautious and CC to

> office for records.
>
> @UIIC Office:Please note that our body IIISLA (promoted by IRDAI and
> recognized by GIC) haveLudhiana Unit and Punjab Chapter for your assistance
> in case of any necessarytechnical help related to Survey profession. Our
> Punjab Chapter body has 450members with expertise in different field.
> However, as per Code of Ethics, ouraugust body is not meant or should not be
> used to help any particular insurer inmarketing of your company or procuring
> business.
>
> If you require any technical help,you can contact IIISLA Punjab Chapter
> Chairman Sh. U.P.S. Sachdeva(98140-85859) Mr. Parveen Kumar Goyal Punjab
> Chapter council member myself IIISLALudhiana Unit Coordinator and Dy.
> Coordinator Mr. Ravish Talwar (98721-17702).Our Punjab Chapter is elected
> body with seven executive members and Unit haseight nominated members. Your
> present and past officers have been Hon’ble guestsin our Seminars and they
> are well aware of promotion of our technicalactivities. By way of pick and
> choose method, by your officials, for visitingdealers, for undesirable acts,
> give negative impression of your company and ourbody IIISLA as well. Our
> IIISLA members have certain code of ethics. If yourcompany needs any help

> you can contact office bearers which are also availableon Public domain www
> iiisla.co.in. insteadof applying undermining tools which tend to create

> friction among fraternity.
>
> This is for your information.
>
> With due regards,
>
> K S Anand (98140-31523)
>
> Ludhiana UnitCoordinator
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Kartar Nagar, Amloh Road,
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