Wife an active Mormon
Alan
always talking to me about the two of us being sealed in the temple. I
am a christian and love the Lord. I have talked to my wife about what
the Bible says in Matt. 22 about marriages in heaven but that doesn't
stop her. She has a couple of times threatened to leave if I didn't
give in to her request about being sealed. I have told her that I
don't believe in sealing of marriages and I will not turn my back on
God, nor change my beliefs. I told her that if this is what she wants
to do then I can't stop her but, I do love her with all my heart.
For the past two months a couple of female missionaries have been to
my house to try and convert me. They unlike all the males that have
been by don't want to give up. They want to see me every week. The
males that came by only came a couple of times each and probably felt
like they were wasting their time. The two young ladies always want to
hear what I have to say about my testimony or what I have to say about
the Bible and how it speaks to me. They even want to go to church with
me Sunday night to see what a baptist church is like.
I appreciate Becki and the e-mails she has responded to, I also
appreciate the prayers. But I sometimes feel that I am alone in my
desires to see my wife and LDS friends come to know the Lord Jesus, to
experience the real savior. Alot of people that I attend church with
do not know alot about the Mormons or what they believe. One of my
friends when asked why didn't my wife attend church with me? Responded
that "well at least she goes to church" when told that she was Mormon.
Thank you my friend in Christ for praying for me and my situation.
Alan
TILM
going on. He is in control. He also has a plan and a purpose for all
of this to bring good in your life and glory for Him. Easy to say,
hard to live - but we MUST hold on to His promises - in them is our
hope. We have an amazing God.
Dave and Lori
sarah
My prayers go out to you and your wife. I pray that she will see your
life and would see Christ in you and would desire the same
relationship. I am also married to a Mormon, however, he does not say
anything to try to convert me. He is not a practicing Mormon. I
praise God for that. I can imagine that it adds stress to your
marriage. Continuing to love her and pray for her is the best and
only thing to do. You are the husband and the leader of the family,
which you probably know means, you lead in the spiritual aspects of
the marriage too. So , I pray that she will respect your beliefs and
talk about the sealing of the marriage. I thought you both have to
Mormons to even enter the temple anyway. Non-Mormons can not have a
sealed marriage or so I thought. Stay strong in prayer and in love
for your wife.
Sarah
Echo
You are in my prayers also.
My husbands brother, wife and five children are Mormon.
The only thing that will bring your wife to faith in the true Jesus is
the gospel message.
In what ways have you tried sharing that with her so far?
Alan
I have used different types of witnessing tools. Mostly the gospel
from the Bible. I use to try things with Mormon doctrine but, that
only made her angry. I started using the Bible when I read Truth In
Love. My father-in-law joined a baptist church a year ago, I thought
that would help with my wife. She blames her step-mother for
encouraging her dad to leave the LDS Church. I think she is most
fearful of her mother who is very strong in the LDS Church. My wife
and the two female missionaries can't understand why I don't believe
that the BOM and Joesph Smith are the truth. Any advice.
Sorry it has taken a while to reply. I use my work e-mail and I've
been kind of busy.
Thanks,
Alan
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Joseph Smith aren't true...
Again, I have no idea where you are at in your understanding of
Mormonism so bare with me if I explain more than I need to or if I
don't explain enough.
The missionaries and your wife think that a "feeling" will come over
you that testifies to the truth of the BOM.
They call it the burning in the bosom.
Scripture warns us against depending on our feelings in discerning
truth:
Proverbs 16:25 "There is a way that seems right to a man, but in
the end it leads to death"
And instead the scripture points us to the word in discerning truth:
Psalm 94:12 Blessed is the man you discipline, O LORD, the man
you teach from your law.
Luke 16:29,31 Abraham replied, "They have Moses and the
Prophets; let them listen to them." 31 He said to him, "If they do not
listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even
if someone rises from the dead."
Romans 15:4 Everything that was written in the past was written
to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the
Scriptures we might have hope.
2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for
teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.
Deuteronomy 4:2 Do not add to what I command you and do not
subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I
give you.
Deuteronomy 13:1-5 If a prophet, or one who foretells by
dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or
wonder, 2and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place,
and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and
let us worship them," 3 you must not listen to the words of that
prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out
whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It
is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep
his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. 5 That
prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion
against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed
you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way
the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil
from among you.
Acts 17:11 The Bereans were of more noble character than the
Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and
examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.
Acts 26:22 I have had God's help to this very day, and so I
stand here and testify to small and great alike. I am saying nothing
beyond what the prophets and Moses said would happen.
1 Timothy 6:3-4 If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not
agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly
teaching, 4 he is conceited and understands nothing.
Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not
speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.
Galatians 1:8 Even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a
gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally
condemned!
The word is sufficient for salvation...
John 20:31 These are written that you may believe that Jesus
is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life
in his name.
Romans 1:16 I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the
power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the
Jew, then for the Gentile.
2 Timothy 3:15-17 From infancy you have known the holy
Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through
faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful
for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17
so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good
work.
More:
Psalm 19:8 The precepts of the LORD are right, giving joy to
the heart. The commands of the LORD are radiant, giving light to the
eyes.
Psalm 119:104,105,130 I gain understanding from your precepts;
therefore I hate every wrong path. 105 Your word is a lamp to my feet
and a light for my path. 130The unfolding of your words gives light;
it gives understanding to the simple.
2 Peter 1:19 We have the word of the prophets made more
certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light
shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star
rises in your hearts.
2 Timothy 3:15 From infancy you have known the holy Scriptures,
which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ
Jesus.
Joseph Smith was visited by an angel but scripture warns us against
angels preaching a false gospel:
Galatians 1:8 Even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a
gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally
condemned!
If you have any questions about any of these, don't hesitate to ask!
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your last question.
It is 2:00 am in the morning so I will answer tommorow when I can
think more clearly.
In Christ,
Echo
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I just noticed today that I had an email in my spam box, I don't
normally even look in there but good thing I did! Now with my new
updated Yahoo email, I havn't a clue how to get it out of there even.
Emails from this ministry didn't go into the spam folder before I
updated.
I am also not sure how much you know about Mormon doctrine so if I
repeat something you already know, please forgive me or if I leave out
something you don't know yet, please ask.
Of course, everything is trial and error but here are some suggestions
you could try:
Using Mormon doctrine can backfire sometimes for a variety of reasons
but two of them may be because some Mormons may have a sort of
"persecution complex" that is ingrained into them or some perhaps are
very afraid. They believe the Mormon Church is the true one and
leaving it carries grave consequences. The Mormon church has alot of
outward appeal that draws people as well as it satisfies our Old Adam
who believes we must "earn" God's love. The very idea that God's love
is "free" is completely foreign to them.
The Gospel is the only message that will produce faith in your wife.
You could pray out loud at dinner or at bedtime and express points of
the gospel in that prayer and give thanks. Whenever you come across a
devotion on the gospel. you could share it with her and tell her what
a great devotion it is and that you think she might like it. (If you
would like, here is a link to free devotions that get delivered to
your email box daily for free: http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?331&ceTopic_topicID=114
) You could also tell her how thankful you are for assurance of
forgiveness and for absolute assurance of eternal life (for Mormons it
would be called exaltation)
It might be effective if you take a slight twist in your original
approach a little , but it still may be offensive, I will let you
decide because you know your wife and I don't. But I am thinking that
you could take points of the Mormon gospel and instead of showing her
how it is wrong, ask her questions about it without commenting back in
a negative way, and then just share your view of The Gospel.
I really like your idea of using the Bible with her. That is at least
something you both have in common. Perhaps as you learn more about
Mormon doctrine or if you know some already, you could use that to
shape and mold a bible study between the two of you? I am thinking
that it wouldn't be wise to bring up the errors in Mormonism that you
come to know of but rather to take that knowledge of Mormonism to help
you understand what she might be thinking and then you will know where
to go with a bible study. Then think of ways to share your knowledge
from scripture in a way that she may see the difference even though
you don't mention Mormonism. Does that make sense? You could also ask
her questions about scripture that you read together and that will
give you an idea what she is thinking also and will show that you have
alot of respect for her.
Another idea is that you can model God's unconditional love to her in
your daily life in more noticeable ways. Especially in areas where
Christians and Mormons disagree. For instance, forgiveness in
Mormonism is conditional. (I am not sure where you are at in your
understanding of Mormonism) So you could show her unconditional
forgiveness and make it more noticable but not overdone.
Do you know wether or not your wife is feeling comfortable or
confident that she is living up to the teachings of Mormonism, or is
she feeling overwhelmed with guilt?
If she is overwhelmed with guilt I would just try some of the above
approachs. But if she is feeling confident then you could add another
element to the above approachs. In Mormonism, some of the things we
would consider sin, they would only consider as a mistake or error in
judgement. They water down sin so that it really isn't a sin. This can
make Mormons feel confident that they are living up to God's
expectations of them. If they are confident that they are living up to
God's expectations, they will never need the true gospel of
forgiveness. So you would want to shake up her confidence. Some
suggestions for this would be to share your sorrow when you have
sinned in your thoughts, words or actions in however small a way for
example if you got angry at a coworker or drove over the speed limit
or whatever happens as you go. Mention the word "sin" in doing that,
that way by your example, she will begin to recognize what sin really
is. Or you could find other ways to bring up "sin" also. Here is a
link to a list of sins that may help you:
http://www.truthinlovetomormons.com/the_truth_in_love/guides/sin/frameset.htm
This link in no way provides a complete list of sin but it gives some
examples of sin. You could use those scripture passages provided at
the link to do another bible study and discuss any of the ways that we
could sin against God.
Work on her mother also. Perhaps you will win her heart and in turn
your wife will follow.
Please keep us posted and keep in touch!
Echo
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that I wrote them and sent them in.
I just thought of two more verses that might be helpful. I used Caps
for emphasis.
Hebrews 1:1-2 "In the PAST God spoke to our forefathers THROUGH THE
PROPHETS at many times and in various ways, BUT IN THESE LAST DAYS he
has spoken to us by his Son,"
and this one:
Ephesians 2:20 "built on the foundation of THE apostles and prophets,
with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone."
Notice in the above passage there is a "THE" right before apostles and
prophets?
Because the word "THE" is used right there it means it is reffering to
the specific apostles and prophets of the Bible and not an ongoing
succession of prophets as the Mormons believe.
If it was intended to mean an ongoing succession of prophets and
apostles as the Mormons believe, the verse should have read: " Built
on the foundation of apostles and prophets" with the "THE" removed.
If you look up the definition of "THE" in the dictionary it explains
what I am trying to say.
Echo
> link to a list of sins that may help you:http://www.truthinlovetomormons.com/the_truth_in_love/guides/sin/fram...