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Rashawn Devegowda

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Rappacould pull it off, but he'd probably just try and make it a slugfest, where his vastly superior speed is useless, and Muscular can just use his power to shield himself, and then slowly win out in a battle of endurance.

On Topic: I think Rappa wins he's more faster and just a " simple" barrage of punches from him completely destroyed Unbreakble Kirishima ( Kirishima just in his first form it's more harder than stell).


Muscular. He tanked a 100% smash from Deku while not even fully covered in muscles. Practically no selling an All Might worthy level attack is a more impressive durability feat than Kirishima's unbreakable imo. He also matched Deku in strength when going 100%. Rappa has the speed and skill advantage but to me it seems Muscular was just a beast


@rizaadxn: Nothing he did is even in the same tier as what Muscular. Muscular was pushing Midoriya through solid rock and broke a large chunk of rock. What are rappa's non scaling feats? Nothing. And when we use scaling Muscular stomps again as he took 100% smash and overpowered 100% Deku.


@rizaadxn: Deku stated multiple times that it was indeed as powerful as All Might's 100% punch. His body just cannot handle the power and it usually shatters the arm. I believe one of the first time's he said that. Was when he punched Nomu and it had no effect on him. A Prime All Might is much stronger at 100% but Injured All Might past his Prime is the same as 100% Deku. That's why he was able to defeat a villain as strong as Muscular in the first place.


@nwname: I'm surprised he didn't realize this. Even Injured All Might can throw out 300+ 100% punches. While current Deku can only throw out like 2-4 and he will not be able to use both arms. It's a pretty fair trade lol. Deku isn't stronger than All Might because he can punch as hard as an injured one a couple of times.


@mee09: Deku is an unexperienced retard who does not fully grasp how his power works. Using him as a reference for power on statements he makes is pointless because he doesn't know shit. We've seen 100% Deku multiple times and at no point in time has he ever done anything on the scale as even a weakened fatigued All Might can do who can take out city blocks with his punches.


@NWName going beyond 100% isn't a real thing. All it means when they 'go beyond 100%' is that they're trying their hardest to win in a fight. 100% is all of your power, there's no going above that. His punch on Nomu was just a 100% punch and the reason why Nomu got knocked back was because his shock Absorption was already overloaded from the 300+ previous punches.


Scaling is something which is often needed to understand the strength/power of feats. 1 punch from Rappa was enough to knock Unbreakable Kirishima back and cause a crater like this and shatter the hardening on his arms.


Kirishima's base hardening durability should be above 5% Deku let alone his unbreakable form. This 1 feat is considerably better than "playing around" Muscular and although it's not as good as serious Muscular it's not like Rappa wouldn't be able to hold his own as he hits in flurries of punches anyway.


Also Skinny Gums charged up punch is arguably on the same level as or better than 100% Deku seeing as it broke through a shield which was compared to steel and caused this crater in what I'm guessing is a concrete wall


You can also see Musculars first serious punch in that scan (and the aftermath in the second scan) where he breaks apart that area of the cliffside, the rock broke apart but only into decently large chunks comparably bigger than himself and then fell. As I mentioned earlier the cliff isn't as solid as you make it out to be as it's structure is already fragmented which would make it easier to break apart.


In terms of combat speed Rappa is superior and Muscular's stupid attitude of playing around could get him in some serious trouble. I'm not 100% certain that Rappa could win but this isn't as easy for Muscular as people are making it out to be and Rappa isn't just some fodder villain.


You can also see Musculars first serious punch in that scan (and the aftermath in the second scan) where he breaks apart that area of the cliffside, the rock broke apart but only into decently large chunks comparably bigger than himself and then fell.


I think you brought up some good points but what I disagree with is your bringing up scaling Rappa from Kirashima's durability based on past feats but it seems like your judging Muscular's durability based solely on the result of Deku's punch. Because Deku explains everything with percentages we know how hard Deku hits at a given moment. I think its fair to say the 100% punch Muscular tanked is similar to other 100% punches Deku has unleashed.


I don't see Kirashima tanking a punch that can bust through several layers of concrete with just air pressure. I also think this is a lot more impressive than Skinny Gum's feat because its just a side effect of the punch. Muscular took an 100% punch (albeit by shielding himself with his muscle fibers). And he managed to over power a 100% punch from an injured Deku as well. Keep in mind that when Deku fought Todoroki he managed to create air pressure with a finger flick-using a finger that was already broken-which shattered his ice:


Than it took a third and final hit from Deku. Now I know Horikoshi said the 1000000% was hyperbole however he also Izuku was summoning an abnormal amount of strength which is what people do in a crisis (comparable to Mothers ripping doors off there hinges to save children).


@jashro44: oh yeah don't get me wrong I'm not tryna say that Kirishima could tank 100% Deku or that Deku's 100% punches in that fight are different/weaker than they are in other instances but what Rappa shown in shattering Unbreakable Kirishima and causing that crater with one punch is considerably better than 'playing around' Muscular and should be enough to hang with serious Muscular as Rappa hits in flurries of punches.


In the big scan a playing around punch from Muscular was enough to knock Deku back, break his arm and cause some cracks in the rock. The following 'playing around' punch only created a small crater in the rock as seen in one of the smaller scans (hate how CV always messes up the order -_-) I think it's obvious that Kiri could tank this even in base hardening form. So a casual 'playing around' Muscular shouldn't be as strong as a normal Rappa by a considerably big margin.


We have to remember that Rappa hits in flurries with combat speed that I personally think is obviously faster than Muscular's combat speed. Since he hits in flurries I think it's enough for him to keep up with even a serious Muscular.


As for 100% Deku vs Skinny Gums punch I'd say they're pretty much on par with eachother with a slight edge to Gum. Skinny Gums punch had to go through a shield which was compared to steel and it still caused a crater similarly better than the crater which Deku made in the Muscular fight (said crater took 2 punches to make). Rappa wasn't knocked out and still got up after this as well, although to be fair he wasn't hit in the face like Muscular was.


oh yeah don't get me wrong I'm not tryna say that Kirishima could tank 100% Deku or that Deku's 100% punches in that fight are different/weaker than they are in other instances but what Rappa shown in shattering Unbreakable Kirishima and causing that crater with one punch is considerably better than 'playing around' Muscular and should be enough to hang with serious Muscular as Rappa hits in flurries of punches.


Perhaps but if Muscular feels like he needs to get serious he probably will. That is what happened with Deku. I think Muscular is more durable than Fat Gum so he can soak hits from Rappa. I don't think Rappa could damage muscular through his muscle fibers.


Well the way Rappa's quirk works IIRC is his quirk is strong shoulders. I kind of view it as him punching at bullet speeds like a machine gun in short bursts. I don't think his reflexes and reactions are that good because we know Overhaul has stomped him repeatedly. Seemingly in H2H even. I don't think his speed will help him avoid damage and if Muscular gets serious I think he can rag doll Rappa.


I think this is where we disagree the most strongly. Personally I think destroying several layers of concrete with just air pressure it more impressive. You also have Deku taking down one of those huge robots the first time he used one for all. I think there armor would be thicker than Hekiji's barrier.


Yeah after looking back over this Muscular definitely takes this once he's serious. The fact that he held back a 100% Midoriya punch with prepped muscles is a really impressive feat that I didn't really take note of.

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