Jesse Helms and Hypocrisy
Russell Wood
Belinda Bryan wrote:
>
> There's an interesting article about former Helms strategist, Arthur
> Finkelstein. Seems Finkelstein is GAY, as in HOMOSEXUAL, for all you
> right-wing lunatics, and when he wasn't working on Jesse's campaigns,
> he was living with his MALE LOVER and raising their two children (and
> no, the article doesn't explain where the two children came from, so
> don't ask me).
>
> I'm not sure who is the bigger hypocrite--Helms for hiring a
> homosexual or Finkelstein for working for a homophobe. Perhaps
> they'll both get front row seats in hell.
>
> Belinda Bryan
> eri...@ix.netcom.com
> ---
> I'm allowed to say queer because my best friend is gay and has granted
> me permission. What's your excuse?
What do you mean hypocrite? Are you saying Helms should not hire
queers because of his opinion of their behavior? If anything
Helms made a statement to all you liberals (which the news would
never point out) that even though he is against homosexual behavior,
he doesn't care what his employees do. You see BB, Jesse's smarter
than you give him credit for, which is why he will be re-elected.
Your logic would be like this - All companies that now offer homo-
sexual partners full benefits should only hire people who agree
with this policy. I don't think these companies would last very long
with this attitude, do you?
If you want to point fingers at hypocrites, then point one at
Finkelstein. For he is the one that is disappointing his gay
followers. But again, Finkel seems to be a smart man. After all, he
is the one cruising around Ipswich, Mass in a Rolls Royce.
Russ Wood
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Belinda Bryan wrote:
>
> I found something interesting during my web travels. For all his
> publicly avowed hatred of the un-naturalness and un-godliness of
> homosexuality, it turns out that North Carolina's Christian Soldier
> once had <gasp> a queer on his payroll!
Jessie also had one of the initial key figures in the Civil Rights
move on his staff. I don't recall the first name, <something> Meridith,
but I still recall seeing this person on the news narrated by Huntley
and Brinkley taking birdshot to the head. (Obviously, not the 00 stuff.)
> I'm not sure who is the bigger hypocrite--Helms for hiring a
> homosexual or Finkelstein for working for a homophobe. Perhaps
> they'll both get front row seats in hell.
I agree. But then again, Jessie signed on to support the Constitution.
I'll meet you halfway. Both get front seats in Hell, but Jessie has to
lean forward.
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SPAM is one of the four essential food groups!
Pete Lienemann
Russell Wood wrote:
> What do you mean hypocrite? ... If anything
> Helms made a statement to all you liberals (which the news would
> never point out) that even though he is against homosexual behavior,
> he doesn't care what his employees do.
If not hypocritical, it's is at least puzzling as hell. Let's
phrase it in plain English. "I will stand up in front of the world,
vote against, and use every procedural tactic I can think of, to
fight funding to Aids research, make numerous speeches and comments
against homosexuals but I don't have the slightest problem if
a homosexual works for me." Sounds like Hitler putting David Ben
Gurion on his staff of closet advisers.
> Your logic would be like this - All companies that now offer homo-
> sexual partners full benefits should only hire people who agree
> with this policy.
Actually, I would go with the implimentation and enforcement of such a
policy. But your analogy doesn't quite work. What you mean is that
that all companies that have such a policy make sure all members of
their management team either agree with the policy or have no comment,
and with the latter, make sure they never show any evidence of acting
upon their personal beliefs.
> I don't think these companies would last very long
> with this attitude, do you?
I don't know if they would or not. Ben & Jerry's seems to be doing fine.
>
> If you want to point fingers at hypocrites, then point one at
> Finkelstein.
We agree. A pox upon those that cozy up to idealogical enemies for the
sake of a dollar.
> But again, Finkel seems to be a smart man. After all, he
> is the one cruising around Ipswich, Mass in a Rolls Royce.
He may have a Rolls Royce, but if what I have read is true, he
doesn't have my respect.
> Views expressed are my opinions and
> not those of Nortel.
Whoa!! I didn't catch this until the last moment. Let me give you a
real quick course in the use of computing equipment owned by your
employer. While your current manager or the current manager of IS
may not care, if push comes to shove, Nortel is responsible for your
opinions and you can be terminated and Nortel sued. Chances are that
the lawsuit will not be fruitful, but Nortel will have already covered
their butt by giving you the heave ho.
I strongly recommend to all those that really want to post and really
want to excercise their First Amendment rights, you acquire your own
access and post from there.
I love debating/flaming folks that have different views than my own, but
I would hate to see anybody get fired for saying something that somebody
of a less curmudgeony(sp) nature would complain about.
Cliff Nelson
> I'm not sure who is the bigger hypocrite--Helms for
> hiring a homosexual or Finkelstein for working for
> a homophobe. Perhaps they'll both get front row
> seats in hell.
I'm not sure about front row seats, but I do envision shackles and a
ball gag for herr Helms.