66 Questions on the Holocaust
NSWPP
66 QUESTIONS ON THE HOLOCAUST
[These are the Institute for Historical Review's original 66
questions on which our own "40 Questions On The Holocaust" are based. - WS]
1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews?
None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual
"survivors." This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have
actually witnessed any "gassing." There are no contemporaneous documents r
hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of disposing
of millions of corpses, no "human soap," no lamp shades made of human skin,
and no credible demographic statistics.
2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the
Nazis?
Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence
demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated "six
million" figure is an irresponsible exaggeration.
3. Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that "there were no extermination
camps on German soil"?
Yes. The famous "Nazi hunter" wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan.
24, 1993. He also claimed that "gassings" of Jews took place only in Poland.
4. If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an
extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an
extermination camp?
After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through
the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a "gas chamber." The mass
media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau as a "gassing" camp.
5. What about Auschwitz? Is there any proof that gas chambers were used to
kill people there?
No. Auschwitz, captured by the Soviets, was modified after the war,
and a room was reconstructed to look like a large "gas chamber." After
America's leading expert on gas chamber construction and design, Fred
Leuchter, examined this and other alleged Auschwitz gassing facilities, he
stated that it was an "absurdity" to claim that they were, or could have
been, used for executions.
6. If Auschwitz wasn't a "death camp," what was its true purpose?
It was an internment center and part of a large-scale manufacturing
complex. Synthetic fuel was produced there, and its inmates were used as a
workforce.
7. Who set up the first concentration camps?
During the Boer War (1899-1902), the British set up what they called
"concentration camps" in South Africa to hold Afrikaner women and children.
Approximately 30,000 died in these hell-holes, which were as terrible
as German concentration camps of World War II.
8. How did German concentration camps differ from American "relocation"
camps in which Japanese-Americans were interned during WWII?
The only significant difference was that the Germans interned persons
on the basis of being real or suspected security threats to the German war
effort, whereas the Roosevelt administration interned persons on the basis
of race alone.
9. Why did the German government intern Jews in camps?
It considered Jews a direct threat to national security. (Jews were
overwhelmingly represented in Communist subversion.) However, all suspected
security risks -- not just Jews -- were in danger of internment.
10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as
early as 1933?
In March 1933, international Jewish organizations declared an
international boycott of German goods.
11. Did the Jews of the world "declare war on Germany"?
Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline
in the London Daily Express (March 24, 1933), for example, announced "Judea
Declares War on Germany."
12. Was this before or after the "death camp" stories began?
This was years before the "death camp" stories, which began in
1941-1942.
13. What nation is credited with being the first to practice mass civilian
bombing?
Britain -- on May 11, 1940.
14. How many "gas chambers" to kill people were there at Auschwitz?
None.
15. How many Jews were living in the areas that came under German control
during the war?
Fewer than six million.
16. If the Jews of Europe were not exterminated by the Nazis, what
happened to them?
After the war millions of Jews were still alive in Europe. Hundreds of
thousands (perhaps as many as one and a half million) had died of all causes
during the war. Others had emigrated to Palestine, the United States, and
other countries. Still more Jews left Europe after the war.
17. How many Jews fled or were evacuated to deep within the Soviet Union?
More than two million fled or were evacuated by the Soviets in
1941-1942. These Jews thus never came under German control.
18. How many Jews emigrated from Europe prior to the war, thus putting
them outside of German reach?
Perhaps a million (not including those absorbed by the USSR).
19. If Auschwitz was not an extermination camp, why did the commandant,
Rudolf Hoess, confess that it was?
He was tortured by British military police, as one of his interrogators
later admitted.
20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to torture
German prisoners in order to exact "confessions" for use at the trials at
Nuremberg and elsewhere?
Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent "evidence" for
the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar "war crimes" trials.
21. How does the Holocaust story benefit Jews today?
It helps protect Jews as a group from criticism. As a kind of secular
religion, it provides an emotional bond between Jews and their leaders. It
is a powerful tool in Jewish money-raising campaigns, and is used to justify
US aid to Israel.
22. How does it benefit the State of Israel?
It justifies the billions of dollars in "reparations" Germany has paid
to Israel and many individual "survivors." It is used by the Zionist/Israeli
lobby to dictate a pro-Israel American foreign policy in the Middle East, and
to force American taxpayer aid to Israel, totaling billions of dollars
per year.
23. How is it used by many Christian clergymen?
The Holocaust story is cited to justify the Old Testament notion of
Jews as a holy and eternally persecuted "Chosen People."
24. How did it benefit the Communists?
It diverted attention from Soviet war mongering and atrocities before,
during and after the Second World War.
25. How does it benefit Britain?
In much the same way it benefitted the Soviet Union.
26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of Jews?
No.
27. What kind of gas was used in German wartime concentration camps?
Hydrocyanic gas from "Zyklon B," a commercial pesticide that was
widely used throughout Europe.
28. For what purpose was "Zyklon B" manufactured?
It was a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill
typhus-bearing lice and other pests.
29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination?
No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people,
far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting
fumigation agent.
30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with
Zyklon B?
Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and
dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are employed.
31. Auschwitz commandant Hoess said that his men would enter the "gas
chambers" to remove bodies ten minutes
after the victims had died. How do you explain this?
It can't be explained because had they done so they would have
suffered the same fate as the "gassing" victims.
32. Hoess said in his "confession" that his men would smoke cigarettes as
they pulled bodies out of gas chambers, ten minutes after gassing. Isn't
Zyklon B explosive?
Yes. The Hoess confession is obviously false.
33. What was the exact procedure the Nazis allegedly used to exterminate
Jews?
The stories range from dropping gas canisters into a crowded room from
a hole in the ceiling, to piping gas through shower heads, to "steam
chambers," to "electrocution" machinery. Millions are alleged to have been
killed in these ways.
34. How could a mass extermination program have been kept secret from
those who were scheduled to be killed?
It couldn't have been kept secret. The fact is that there were no mass
gassings. The extermination stories originated as wartime atrocity propaganda.
35. If Jews scheduled for execution knew the fate in store for them, why
did they go along with the Germans without resisting?
They didn't fight back because they did not believe there was any
intention to kill them.
36. About how many Jews died in the concentration camps?
Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000.
37. How did they die?
Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe
during the war, as well as from starvation and lack of medical attention
during the final months of the conflict, when virtually all road and rail
transportation had been bombed out by the Allies.
38. What is typhus?
This disease always appears when many people are jammed together under
unsanitary conditions. It is carried by lice that infest hair and clothes.
Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon B, more Jews might have
survived the camps.
39. What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during the
Second World War?
5,700,000.
40. Some Jewish "death camp" survivors say they saw bodies being dumped
into pits and burned. How much fuel
would have been required for this?
A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a
substantial fuel shortage during the war.
41. Can bodies be burned in pits?
No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames
in this manner because of lack of oxygen.
42. Holocaust historians claim that the Nazis were able to cremate bodies
in about ten minutes. How long does it
take to incinerate one body, according to professional crematory
operators?
About an hour and a half, although the larger bones require further
processing afterwards.
43. Why did the German concentration camps have crematory ovens?
To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses of those who had
died.
44. Given a 100 percent duty cycle of all the crematories in all the camps
in German-controlled territory, what is
the maximum number of corpses it would have been possible to incinerate
during the entire period such
crematories were in operation?
About 430,600.
45. Can a crematory oven be operated 100 percent of the time?
No. Fifty percent of the time is a generous estimate (12 hours per
day). Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in
heavy operation.
46. How much ash is left from a cremated corpse?
After the bone is all ground down, about a shoe box full.
47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what happened
to the ashes?
That remains to be "explained." Six million bodies would have produced
many tons of ashes, yet there is no evidence of any large ash depositories.
48. Do Allied wartime aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz (taken
during the period when the "gas
chambers" and crematoria were supposedly in full operation) show evidence
of extermination?
No. In fact, these photographs do not even reveal a trace of the
enormous amount of smoke that supposedly was constantly over the camp, nor
do they show evidence of the "open pits" in which bodies were allegedly burned.
49. What was the main provision of the German "Nuremberg Laws" of 1935?
They forbid marriage and sexual relations between Germans and Jews,
similar to laws existing in Israel today.
50. Were there any American precedents for the Nuremberg Laws?
Years before Hitler's Third Reich, most states in the USA had enacted
laws prohibiting marriage between persons of different races.
51. What did the International Red Cross have to report with regard to the
"Holocaust" question?
An official report on the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
September 1944 pointed out that internees were permitted to receive
packages, and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified.
52. What was the role of the Vatican during the time six million Jews were
allegedly being exterminated?
If there had been an extermination plan, the Vatican would most
certainly have been in a position to know about it. But because there was
none, the Vatican had no reason to speak out against it, and didn't.
53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish
extermination program?
None.
54. Did the Nazis and the Zionists collaborate?
As early as 1933, Hitler's government signed an agreement with the
Zionists permitting Jews to emigrate from Germany to Palestine, taking large
amounts of capital with them.
55. How did Anne Frank die?
After surviving internment in Auschwitz, she succumbed to typhus in the
Bergen-Belsen camp, just a few weeks before the end of the war. She was not
gassed.
56. Is the Anne Frank Diary genuine?
No. Evidence compiled by Dr. Robert Faurisson of France establishes
that the famous diary is a literary hoax.
57. What about the familiar photographs and film footage taken in the
liberated German camps showing piles of
emaciated corpses? Are these faked?
Photographs can be faked, but it's far easier merely to add a
misleading caption to a photo or commentary to a piece of footage. Piles of
emaciated corpses do not mean that these people were "gassed" or deliberately
starved to death. Actually, these were tragic victims of raging epidemics or
of starvation due to a lack of food in the camps toward the end of the war.
58. Who originated the term "genocide"?
Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew, in a book published in 1944.
59. Are films such as "Schindler's List" or "The Winds of War"
documentaries?
No. Such films are fictional dramatizations loosely based on history.
Unfortunately, all too many people accept them as accurate historical
representations.
60. How many books have been published that refute some aspect of the
standard "Holocaust" story?
Dozens. More are in production.
61. What happened when the Institute for Historical Review offered $50,000
to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz?
No proof was submitted as a claim on the reward, but the Institute was
sued for $17 million by former Auschwitz inmate Mel Mermelstein, who claimed
that the reward offer caused him to lose sleep and his business to suffer,
and represented "injurious denial of established fact."
62. What about the charge that those who question the Holocaust story are
merely anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi?
This is a smear designed to draw attention away from facts and honest
arguments. Scholars who refute Holocaust story claims are of all persuasions
and ethnic-religious backgrounds (including Jewish). There is no correlation
between "Holocaust" refutation and anti-Semitism or neo-Nazism. Increasing
numbers of Jewish scholars openly admit the lack of evidence for key
Holocaust claims.
63. What has happened to "revisionist" historians who have challenged the
Holocaust story?
They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic
positions, loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical
violence.
64. Has the Institute for Historical Review suffered any retaliation for
its efforts to uphold the right of freedom of
speech and academic freedom?
The IHR had been bombed three times, and was completely destroyed on
July 4, 1984, in a criminal arson attack. Numerous death threats by
telephone have been received. Media coverage of the IHR has been
overwhelmingly hostile.
65. Why is there so little publicity for the revisionist view?
Because for political reasons the Establishment does not want any
in-depth discussion about the facts surrounding the Holocaust story.
66. Where can I get more information about the "other side" of the Holocaust
story, as well as facts concerning other aspects of World War II historical
revisionism?
The Institute for Historical Review, P.O. Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA
92659, carries a wide variety of books, cassette and video tapes on
significant historical subjects.
http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/pamphlets/66questions.html (updated 1/95)
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NSWPP
Quinton wrote:
>
> NSWPP wrote:
> >
> > 66 QUESTIONS ON THE HOLOCAUST
> >
> > [These are the Institute for Historical Review's original 66
> > questions on which our own "40 Questions On The Holocaust" are based. - WS]
>
> his body. His own "organization" plagarizes documents belonging to
> others to suit his own needs.
>
> Hey uncle Harold... what have you contributed lately? Anything?
To plagiarize is to take without ACKNOWLEDGEMENT from another source. For
several reasons I condensed these 66 questions into 40 and went into
greater detail in some of the answers. The attribution to the IHR and the
IHR's address appears on every copy of the 40 Questions sent out, either
by e-mail or in hard copy form.
A similar accusation of plagiarism was leveled against me some time ago
by Kevin Alfred Strom of the National Alliance over an article entitled
"Jewish Media Censorship". That article was sent to me in September of
1996 by e-mail by Mr. Strom himself, during a period when we were having
a brief civil exchange of the kind which is so rare when dealing with the
NA. Six months later Mr. Strom published an open letter accusing me of
plagiarizing the article. In point of fact, the article was published
under the author's name and Mr. Strom was given attribution as the
source, both in the e-mail and the hard copy version. Mr. Strom either
didn't bother to check his facts or simply had no regard for the truth,
again a common occurrence when dealing with the National Alliance.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
Kevin Alfred Strom
Covington's response to Quinton is so full of misinformation relating to
me that it really demands an answer. I prefer to ignore insects, but at
times they must be repelled.
NSWPP wrote:
....
> To plagiarize is to take without ACKNOWLEDGEMENT from another source. ...
The second definition of plagiarism from _Funk and Wagnalls New Standard
Dictionary of the English Language_ is as follows:
"A writing, utterance or invention stolen from another."
This, of course, is the sense in which both Quinton and I used the term.
Harold Covington has in the past, and likely will continue in the future,
to republish the work of others under his imprimatur -- without the
original author's or publisher's permission. He certainly did it to me
and Jack Killey. By doing this, he suggests a cooperation, cordiality, or
agreement between his solipsistically-named "NSWPP" and the real owners
of the works. Such a suggestion may impress the naive recipients on his
sucker-list, but the simplest of inquiries to the authors will reveal the
real nature of Covington's footwork.
>
> A similar accusation of plagiarism was leveled against me some time ago
> by Kevin Alfred Strom of the National Alliance over an article entitled
> "Jewish Media Censorship".
Not even close, Harold. The article was entitled "Media Control, Close
Up."
> That article was sent to me in September of
> 1996 by e-mail by Mr. Strom himself, during a period when we were having
> a brief civil exchange of the kind which is so rare when dealing with the
> NA.
First, I never knowingly sent the article to Harold Covington.
"ns...@earthlink.net" has never been on my mailing list. It is certainly
possible that Covington himself subscribes to my mailings under an alias;
or more likely one of his followers or employers forwarded it to him.
I placed "Media Control, Close Up" on the 'Net on 1st September 1996.
The "brief civil exchange" Covington refers to began when Covington sent
me an insulting e-mail he titled "Too Hot For You?" This took place on
19th July 1996. His last e-mail of this allegedly "civil exchange"
arrived on 21st July, 1996 -- well over a month before the issuance of
the Killey article.
> Six months later Mr. Strom published an open letter accusing me of
> plagiarizing the article. In point of fact, the article was published
> under the author's name and Mr. Strom was given attribution as the
> source, both in the e-mail and the hard copy version. Mr. Strom either
> didn't bother to check his facts or simply had no regard for the truth,
> again a common occurrence when dealing with the National Alliance.
>
> Winston Smith
> www.nswpp.org
Seven days later -- not six months -- I issued the following on the 'Net
to alert everyone that Covington had appropriated the article without
permission, and that I was in no way responsible for his use of it:
***begin quoted message of 9/8/96***
Subject:
I am not associated with "the NSWPP"
Date:
Sun, 08 Sep 1996 02:13:55 -0700
From:
Kevin Alfred Strom <ka_s...@ix.netcom.com>
To:
ka_s...@ix.netcom.com
Dear Friend:
All of you should have received a copy of the ADV article by Jack Killey
entitled _Media Control, Close Up_ which I posted to Usenet and also to
this ADV mailing list several days ago.
Yesterday, some of you received an additional copy of this same article,
with my address and urls removed, from an individual calling himself
"NSWPP-CSU <ns...@earthlink.net>." The opening lines of the copied
version of the article read as follows:
---begin quoted message excerpt from "NSWPP-CSU <ns...@earthlink.net>"---
MEDIA CONTROL CLOSE UP
by Jack Killey
(This article provided to the NSWPP courtesy of Kevin Alfred Strom)
To the question, "Do you really believe the Jews own the media?", I
can....
---end quoted message excerpt from "NSWPP-CSU <ns...@earthlink.net>"---
This article was copied from my original post by "NSWPP-CSU
<ns...@earthlink.net>" and re-sent without my knowledge or permission;
and I am concerned that some of you may be confused by his statement that
"This article provided to the NSWPP courtesy of Kevin Alfred Strom."
Just to clarify the situation: I have absolutely no connection with and
emphatically make no endorsement of "the NSWPP" or "NSWPP-CSU
<ns...@earthlink.net>." The use of my name in his unsolicited
re-publication of this article was done without my knowledge or approval.
Further, I do not wish my name to be used in any publications by anyone
including "NSWPP-CSU <ns...@earthlink.net>" without my prior approval.
Such approval was not sought or obtained by "NSWPP-CSU
<ns...@earthlink.net>."
With good wishes to all, and with apologies for troubling you with this
matter, I remain
Yours faithfully,
--
Kevin Alfred Strom
***end quoted message of 9/8/96***
When the plagiarized article was again issued by Covington in printed
form, and was eventually innocently reprinted by the excellent _Liberty
Bell_ magazine, I wrote the following letter.
***begin quoted letter to Liberty Bell magazine***
Mr. George Dietz
Liberty Bell Publications
Post Office Box 21
Reedy, West Virginia 25270
22d December, 1996
Dear Mr. Dietz:
This may be considered a Letter to the Editor.
Just a couple notes on some recent numbers of Liberty Bell.
Thank you for carrying, in your August 1996 issue, Jeremy Miller's series
The New Slavery which originally appeared on American Dissident Voices (a
radio program I produce); but you repeated the innocent error of the
editor of Free Speech in giving me the primary credit. In fact, my
function was merely to edit the Miller articles for clarity and to fit
the time constraints of my radio program. The main credit should go --
and the byline should have been given -- to Mr. Jeremy Miller.
In your December 1996 issue, you published an article by Jack Killey
entitled "Jewish Media Control Close Up," which indicated at its
termination, "Thanks to Kevin Alfred Strom for providing the above
article...." and that it was "Reprinted from Resistance #88,
published by NSWPP, PO Box 9444, 27515."
Although I am delighted that Mr. Killey's article was seen by readers of
Liberty Bell, I feel obligated to inform your readers of the false
impression that the publisher of the "Resistance" sheet, Harold
Covington, may have given them. (Do not confuse Harold Covington's
"Resistance" operation in North Carolina with the excellent pro-White
music magazine of the same name published in Detroit, Michigan. It is
Covington's North Carolina-based "Resistance" sheet to which I refer at
all times in this letter.)
First, "Resistance" plagiarized the article from National Vanguard Books,
pure and simple. Mr. Killey, the author of the piece, contacted me some
months ago, looking for a publisher. Believing his was a story that
needed to be told, I first published his article on my radio program, and
later in print and on the Internet. The publisher of "Resistance" did
not contact Mr. Killey, did not contact me, and did not contact National
Vanguard Books before lifting the article whole and republishing it under
his imprimatur. This is dishonorable enough, but there is more.
Secondly, the publisher of "Resistance" has the audacity to state that I
submitted the article to him and gave him permission to republish it. I
did no such thing. He further implies that I gave him permission to use
my name, which I did not. By using my name as quoted above, Mr. Covington
leaves the reader to infer that I am in at least some small way
associated with or cooperating with his so-called "NSWPP." I most
emphatically state that I have no association whatever with Mr. Covington
or his various operations, nor have I ever had any such association, nor
do I ever intend to have such an association.
Finally, as if to thumb his nose at those whose work he has appropriated
for his own benefit, Mr. Covington altered the text of the article in at
least one very significant way:
On page 52 of the December 1996 issue of Liberty Bell, the text from
Covington's version of the article reads, "It was in one sense a
privilege to be in courageous company living and dead; to be allocated
the ire bestowed on men like Belloc, Chesterton, Douglas Reed,
Wilmot Robertson was a badge of honor of sorts."
The same passage in Jack Killey's actual words reads, "...the ire
bestowed on people like Belloc, Chesterton, Dr. Pierce, Douglas Reed,
Wilmot Robertson was a badge of honor of sorts."
Thank you, George, for all your unselfish work and your multiple
kindnesses to me and my family, and thank you for the opportunity to set
the record straight on this matter. Let me make it clear that you and the
Liberty Bell are absolutely blameless in all this. If readers want
further information, they may contact me through the address below.
With best wishes to you and yours, I remain
Yours faithfully,
Kevin Alfred Strom.
***end quoted letter to Liberty Bell magazine***
Jusge for yourself who doesn't bother to check his facts -- and just who
it is who has no regard for the truth.
With good wishes to all,
--
Kevin Alfred Strom.
mailto:ka_s...@ix.netcom.com
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In article <339757...@earthlink.net>, Poor Ol' Lyin' Harry Covington
<ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In the National Alliance we are dealing with people to whom truth quite
> literally means nothing, and there comes a point where any attempt to
> "debate" or argue with malicious liars on this scale becomes pointless.
This is absolutely hilarious coming from Poor Ol' Lyin' Harry, who insists
that we all accept that Nizkor mailbombed him simply because he "knows"
they did.
JGB
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Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
"What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
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In article <339810...@vidnet.net>,
jd...@vidnet.net wrote:
>
> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>
> I belong to NAMBLA and I am gay; I can butt fuck little boys all day.
NAMBLA's not about fucking little boys all day long. The poster qualified
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in the media and academia, before community groups, and
among the general public.
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and politics, we all share a libertarian, humanistic
attitude on sexuality. We believe that sex is good and
wholesome and that it is an important medium of personal
expression.
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insist there is a distinction between coercive and
consensual sex. Laws that focus only on the age of the
participants fail to capture that distinction, for they
ignore the quality of the relationship. Differences in age
do not preclude mutual, loving interaction between persons
any more than differences in race or class.
Some existing laws criminalize sexual relationships that are
loving and fully consensual. These laws are ill-conceived
and morally repugnant. As is our right, we advocate their
repeal. Nothing that we speak or write about is intended to
advocate or counsel the violation of such laws.
NAMBLA calls for the empowerment of youth in all areas, not
just the sexual. We are against arbitrary constraints on
the rights and freedom of all, young and old. We support
greater economic, political, and social opportunities for
young people and denounce the rampant ageism that segregates
and isolates them in fear and mistrust.
* =================================
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NSWPP
Jim Dyer wrote:
>
> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>
> I belong to NAMBLA and I am gay; I can butt fuck little boys all day.
>
> >
> >
> > =====================================================================
> > Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
> > "What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
Dear Mr. Brown,
I thought the Church of the Creator was defunct?
-WS
NSWPP
> >
> > Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> >
> > I belong to NAMBLA and I am gay; I can butt fuck little boys all day.
>
I'm curious to know how we got from the NA to NAMBLA. Had it been a
response to the KLASSEN article, yes, THEN I could see it, but...
Winston Smith
"C. Forrest"
(Well almost!!) It does not surprise me that this filth is based out of
New York City, the second capital of World Jewery.
Ready for some decency and racial pride?
NATIONAL ALLIANCE
http://www.natall.com
http://www.natvan.com
Visit the above location to get a complete listing of local unit phone
numbers
NSWPP
"Illegitimi non Carborundem"
Jeffrey G. Brown
NSWPP wrote:
>
> >
> > Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> >
> > I belong to NAMBLA and I am gay; I can butt fuck little boys all day.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > =====================================================================
> > > Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
> > > "What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
>
> Dear Mr. Brown,
>
> I thought the Church of the Creator was defunct?
>
> -WS
Harry, I love to nibble young boys pee pees also.
a002046
> >
> > Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> >
> > I belong to NAMBLA and I am gay; I can butt fuck little boys all day.
>
Thanks for the "educational" post, which further confirms that
our tolerant society is sick. There are people who destroy
organizations by seeking out and suing their members. This
appears to be a job for them.
Cmdr. What
Quinton <qui...@bcpl.lib.md.us> wrote...
>
>NSWPP wrote:
>>
>> [Defamatory and libelous material posted by Kevin Strom snipped]
>>
>> The post by Kevin Alfred Strom contains so many falsifications,
>> defamatory and libelous statements, and deliberate and malicious
>> distortions of truth that I do not know where to begin the process of
>> refuting it, nor do I think any refutation is necessary. There is such
>> a thing as being too proud to lower oneself beyond a certain level,
>> and with this post that level has been reached. I will not roll in the
>> mud with these dogs beyond what I already have done.
>
>Excellent try uncle Harold. A very noble try indeed. I think you'll
>need to try harder at convincing the general public that you actually
>have a backbone though.
Are you absolutely sure that YOU are more popular with the general public?
>Do you mean to tell us that you are "too proud" to confront the issues
>placed before you? Instead you choose to "roll over" and show your
>belly? Come on uncle confrontation, what's going on?
Oh, come on, where is YOUR courage? I haven't seen much of it.
>> In the National Alliance we are dealing with people to whom truth quite
>> literally means nothing, and there comes a point where any attempt to
>> "debate" or argue with malicious liars on this scale becomes pointless.
>
>No debate here uncle Harold, just answer a question... what have you
>contributed to the racialist movement? Lately? Ever? Name one
>contribution... no debate, just answer the question!
As far as I know, he has done more that you.
>> I have dealt briefly with this Strom thing in an NSNet Bulletin, and for
>> those of you who are interested this commentary is available from
>> ns...@earthlink.net.
>
>Great! I sent you an email request for the information, send away and
>let me decide.
>
>> Beyond that, I can only state that for the past five years, anything and
>> everything which has emanated from the National Alliance on the subject
>> of the NSWPP or any other perceived rival in the Movement, such as Jared
>> Taylor, George Burdi, Kirk Lyons, etc. has been a shameful, disgraceful
>> tissue of lies and deceit and vicious slander. Kevin Alfred Strom, Gordon
>> Gray and a few others were once men of honor and integrity; a false sense
>> of loyalty to an incestuous and narrow-minded cult led by an increasingly
>> capricious and paranoid old man has warped and deformed their characters
>> until we see---well, until we see the kind of thing which has appeared on
>> triangle.politics of late.
>
>Oh my... uncle Harold, in the past you yourself has talked of homosexual
>acts in such a vivid manner that ANYTHING appearing in triangle.politics
>as of late would be shallow in comparison.
>
>The people just wish to know the facts and if you choose not to present
>them or refute our statements, what would you have the people believe?
>
>Answer the question... what have you ever contributed to the racialist
>movement?
>
>
>----------------------------
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Quinton
Cmdr. What wrote:
>
> Quinton <qui...@bcpl.lib.md.us> wrote...
> >Excellent try uncle Harold. A very noble try indeed. I think you'll
> >need to try harder at convincing the general public that you actually
> >have a backbone though.
>
> Are you absolutely sure that YOU are more popular with the general public?
I never claimed to be "popular". Nor have I ever portrayed myself as a
leader of an organization like the "nswpp" all the while spreading lies
against other successful organizations in the movement like uncle Harry
has.
You don't even know who uncle Harry is (he SURE doesn't know who you
are!) yet you try to defend him! How can you defend a man you don't
even know?
> >Do you mean to tell us that you are "too proud" to confront the issues
> >placed before you? Instead you choose to "roll over" and show your
> >belly? Come on uncle confrontation, what's going on?
>
> Oh, come on, where is YOUR courage? I haven't seen much of it.
I'm not the one on center stage, uncle Harry is.
> >> In the National Alliance we are dealing with people to whom truth quite
> >> literally means nothing, and there comes a point where any attempt to
> >> "debate" or argue with malicious liars on this scale becomes pointless.
> >
> >No debate here uncle Harold, just answer a question... what have you
> >contributed to the racialist movement? Lately? Ever? Name one
> >contribution... no debate, just answer the question!
>
> As far as I know, he has done more that you.
How so? I told you earlier that you must not know much about uncle
Harry.
I still believe that is true.
> >----------------------------
> >\|/ NATIONAL ALLIANCE \|/
> > | http://www.natall.com |
> > | http://www.natvan.com |
> "COM" $$$ membership fees $$$ To pay for your pathetic
> attacks on your racial
> comrades?
You're sounding more and more like Harold every day.
dh...@indelible-blue.com
whit...@mindspring.com (Will Williams) writes:
<Drivel Snipped>
Will why don't you take this back to triangle politics and
I'll summarize the current state of affairs in triangle politics
for the t.g crowd.
many threads participated in by mostly will and nswpp
which go something like this:
1) I'm the biggest racist
2) No I'm the biggest racist
1) uh uh
2) uh huh
1) did not
2) did too
1) mine.
2) is not
1) No you're a liar
2) uh uh
1) uh huh
2) no you're a liar
Pattern repeats from there.
David "transcripts available for $3.00 from burells" Hockenberger
dh...@indelible-blue.com
Will Williams
a002046 <a00...@nospam.ibm.net> wrote on 'triangle.politics':
[snip homo promo]
>Thanks for the "educational" post, which further confirms that
>our tolerant society is sick. There are people who destroy
>organizations by seeking out and suing their members. This
>appears to be a job for them.
Let's get off the rude fudge-packers' interruption and segue back onto
"Strom lies," OK, a002046? Who wants to sue queers? All we need to do
there is bring back and require the wearing of Mr. Hitler's Pink
Triangle for all known queers.
I'm way ahead of you. Covington is a job for me -- one of "those
people" who destroys fraudulent orgs with lawsuits. It's easy!
On Thu, 05 Jun 1997 03:15:35 -0700, long-time National Alliance member
and producer of the radio show (for 5 years) "American Dissident
Voices," Kevin Alfred Strom, posted the following about Defendant
Covington's veracity on the below listed newsgroups:
I have never known Mr. Strom to lie or even to exaggerate. This
includes while working closely on nearly a daily basis with KAS for
two years.
Harold Covington is an unabashed liar and infamous
disrupter. Anyone who collaborates with Covington (including George
Dietz of "Liberty Bell," Ed Fields of "The Truth At Last," and Willis
Carto of "Spotlight" infamy -- all who know the truth (at last?) about
Covington and his phoney "NSWPP") in malicious smears of White
patriots, should be treated accordingly (Speaking for myself, of
course.). That is the bottom line. That is how it must be.
\|/
| Will W. Williams
---begin KAS expose of Defendant Covington:---
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Up."
Dear Friend:
22d December, 1996
Dear Mr. Dietz:
Yours faithfully,
mailto:ka_s...@ix.netcom.com
http://search.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/s/strom.kevin.alfred/1996
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---end Strom expose of "NSWPP"/Covington---
D W DUKES
Well It is obvious he lies. I don't think he got Nancy pregnant all those
times standing up.
--
Wes Dukes
You are what you pretend to be therefore you must be careful what you
pretend to be - Kurt Vonnegut
NSWPP
Will Williams wrote:
[demented drivel and lies from Kevin Alfred Strom snipped]
"Illegitimi non Carborundem"
Will Williams
"NSWPP" (Harold Covington) wrote:
>Will Williams wrote:
> [demented drivel and lies from Kevin Alfred Strom snipped]
What are you talking about?
> "Illegitimi non Carborundem"
Tell that to the judge.
Are the bastards wearing you down now, Defendant Covington?
WWW, Plaintiff
NSWPP
Oh, Will. Will, Will, Will..........
Dan Knauss
NSWPP wrote:
>
> Will Williams wrote:
>
> [demented drivel and lies from Kevin Alfred Strom snipped]
>
This is getting boring after the 5000th consecutive time. Learn some new
Latin cliches dude. Like: YO MOMMA NON YO MOMMA CUZ YOUSEUM ILLEGITIMI
BASTARDUM.
NSWPP
Second in the series of articles I believe may have triggered the
NA lawsuit. - WS
[September 30th, 1996]
LONG, BORING SPIRITUAL STUFF
I know many of you wish I'd stick to the usual niggerniggernigger
kind of material which so often passes for political thought in the
Movement. I know discussion of our own faults and weaknesses makes you
restless and uncomfortable. [It's usually put to me something like
"You're such a brilliant writer, Winston, why don't you fight the REAL
enemy instead of attacking other White people?" Blah, blah, whine,
whinge, moan, etc.] It's so much easier, with so much better a Feelgood
Factor, to blame the Jews or the Clintons or the government or anyone
outside our own people, our own hearts and souls for what has happened
to us and to the magnificent world we made and once ruled.
Well, I'm afraid I'm going to bore you again with "all that
spiritual stuff", so you might want to delete this one. Don't worry,
we'll get back to bashing the niggers and the Clintons and the Jews in a
few days.
Not that there hasn't been progress, some, anyway. It used to be
that getting anyone in the Movement to admit that WE just might be
partially to blame for our lack of success was like pulling teeth. After
thirty years of failure the handwriting is now on the wall in such large
flaming letters that it is pretty much impossible to ignore. Virtually
everyone involved in racial nationalist activity will pay lip service to
the idea that there is something very badly flawed within our ranks.
Where the frantic, stubborn, sometimes almost hysterical resistance kicks
in is when I and a few other iconoclasts attempt to get specific about
WHAT is wrong, WHO is wrong, and what has to be done about it. It is
ironic (as well as completely incorrect) for my enemies to claim that I
never offer "proof" of what I say when I criticize certain nude emperors;
the problem from their point of view is that I DO, and inconvenient proof
is in fact the last thing they want.
Well, we won't get into that. We have been discussing the case
history of a a boy who has become a STUKACH, a Russian word from the
Stalin years which for our purposes is a White defector who A) knows the
racial truth and at one stage participates in the resistance movement,
but B) later decides for reasons of personal resentment, or greed, or
because he's getting laid by a Jewess, or out of simple perversity, not
only to sabotage the Movement from within but to actively, publicly
assist people like Dees, the A.D.L., Nizkor, etc. The boy will not be
named because one of his motives appears to be a desire to have his name
become discussed and notorious.
By the by, in answer to several questions, the word is
pronounced stew-KOTCH, accent on the last syllable.
ARYAN MAN IS THE highest form of earthly creation. Our minds and
personalities have more depth, more strength and discipline, more energy,
more creative force, more deductive and intuitive capacity, and more
ability to assimilate knowledge than any other humanoid species. Because
our characters are more diverse and complex, we have accordingly a
greater number and a greater complexity of faults and weaknesses. Just as
a tractor can cover more acreage faster and more efficiently than a
horse-drawn plow, so a tractor is prone to more specialized and frequent
breakdowns requiring more specialized repair than a horse or a mule.
Aryan man is a marvellous thinking, feeling, fighting, building,
exploring and creating machine, but we are very "high maintenance"
machines, and a lot of our "bugs" seem to be inherited, because down
through the ages we have always displayed the same flaws and weaknesses.
One of these, for example, is what Commander Rockwell called "the
lure of the exotic". In its true form this makes us voyage around the
world in little wooden sailing ships in search of spices, gold, and new
lands or turn our eyes to the heavens seeking new galaxies; in its
corrupted form it makes dumb-ass redneck GIs marry diseased Filipina bar
girls or middle-aged White men spend $10,000 to import some slut from
Hong Kong as a mail-order bride from one of these damnable agencies, to
cite only one example.
Another is our innate love of freedom. In its true form it led to
the Magna Carta; it called the Minute Men to stand at Concord Bridge; it
was this love of freedom that made the cannon roar in Charleston harbor
and at Bull Run to rip that Masonic dishrag out of the Southern sky and
replace it with our own crimson banner of nationhood. In its corrupted
form, it has become a kind of laziness and excuse for cowardice, wherein
White men abuse the concept of "freedom" to allow racial aliens and
sodomites and corrupt tyrants to run amuck in society while sitting in
front of the television, their guns gathering dust in the closet. Whereas
once we fought with weapons in our hands to secure freedom for ourselves,
now we graciously grant others the freedom to abuse us, insult us, and
oppress us rather than miss Monday Night Football.
But if I had to pick the one character flaw which has caused our
people more grief down the ages than any other, I would have to pick EGO,
along with its two handmaidens, vanity and hubris. We are more prone to
insane egotism than any other race of people.
I do not except the Jews. An especially arrogant Aryan is more
insufferable than the worst Jew, because although a conceited Jew can be
despicable, he is often comical as well. The most uppity Jews generally
have the least to be uppity about. Your average Hebraic Hollywood mogul
producer or Wall Street stockbroker or university bigwig is almost always
Sammy Glick writ large; however real and dangerous their power may be,
they are still only the biggest cockroach on the dungheap. They know it
and everyone around them knows it. But an Aryan whose ego gets away from
him is a tragedy, because unlike the Jew there is generally at least a
touch of genuine potential greatness under there somewhere, in some cases
a lot of it, and yet the person's blind inflated self-esteem renders his
or her genuine genius or talent or skill almost worthless.
Why this seems to be our race's particular curse is hard to say.
Nor has it been all bad, all the time---it wasn't just gunpowder and
horses and steel weapons that helped Cortez and seven hundred Spaniards
destroy the Aztec empire or the magnetic compass that helped Magellan
circumnavigate the globe or the diesel engine that made the first
Zeppelin fly after a dozen previous failures, it was a self-esteem that
would not take no for an answer or accept defeat as an option. But for
White people in the context of the modern day world, and in our attempts
to resist racial destruction, ego has been a disaster, a kind of
spiritual epilepsy that seizes us when we least expect it and sends us
into an uncontrolled, destructive seizure of incomprehensible madness.
The first problem that ego creates in the Movement is that we get
people who join our ranks because of it. This appears to be the case with
the boy stukach we've been discussing. Even before he went completely to
the bad I spotted his problem, a very common one---he became involved in
the Movement not because he wished to put something INTO it, but because
he wanted to get something OUT of it. With him, it was never about
securing the existence of our people and a future for White children, it
was about Robin the Boy Wonder. Or possibly Tom Sawyer walking along the
fence to show off to the little girl in pigtails. "See how smart I am!
See how brilliant and witty and debonair I am! Watch, I can wiggle my
ears! Look at MEEEEEEE....!"
The boy is not completely at fault for this, and let me make it
clear I am not claiming that he is. At least some of it is environmental.
According to his narcissistic autobio on his web page the boy was born
and raised in California, which is something of an excuse in itself.
Sometimes Movement people (myself included) lose patience with
the shallowness, the short attention span, the obtuseness and general
piss-poor attitude of some of our comrades. We become angry and
frustrated because spoiled-rotten American White kids don't act like
SA-Mann Brandt; we forget that those iron-jawed men we see marching down
the Nuremberg streets in TRIUMPH OF THE WILL are almost all veterans of
the trenches of World War One or the Freikorps era, which in its own way
was just as brutal and bloody. The younger generation today has never
known war, real privation, or real discomfort. They have been raised on
television and Nintendo in the most materialistic, physically
undemanding, luxurious, hedonistic society in history, and that life
experience is pretty much their frame of reference. I find it amazing
that as many young people have become what Ingrid Rimland calls
"Renaissance Kids" as appear to have done; it just goes to show that
the good in the Aryan hasn't been totally killed off and will still shine
through if given half a chance.
There was a time when we might have made something out of our own
Vietnam vets---but then, we chose to waste the past thirty years calling
each other names and stealing each other's mailing lists, didn't we? But
we won't get into that again. For now.
Anyway, the fact is that we're stuck with Generation X. Beavis
and Butthead simply are not going to act like the hardened men of iron
who went over the top during the Second Ludendorff Offensive and put the
Allied rabble to flight, French and British and Americans collapsing into
a panic-stricken rout, until the Jew Rathenau stabbed them in the back
and cut off their ammunition supply. Beavis and Butthead not only lack
the war in their past, they also lack the personal sense of betrayal of
those black and brown-clad men in TRIUMPH who knew that their fathers and
brothers and sons had died so the kikes could get their Balfour
Declaration and get their grubby hands on a land that did not, and does
not, belong to them. Educated Volkish Germans in the 1920s knew these
things, discussed them, and reflected on them; Beavis and Butthead with
their 90-second attention span are incapable of such intellectual
attainments.
But some of them try. They sense something is wrong and they
try, but they simply can't lose all the baggage this society has imposed
on them, the ego which must be constantly massaged and pampered, the
craving for constant new sensation, and above all the peculiarly American
demand for INSTANT GRATIFICATION of every whim and impulse. They know
something is wrong, they find the Movement, they come in and find it
takes everything and gives back almost nothing, they sulk, they
half-step, they leave in a huff and wander on to the next group or the
next fad, or sometimes just settle down in front of the TV, their eyes
glazing as they flick the remote.
That's not always the way it happens---I've seen some of these
kids come into the Movement and I know for a fact they're in for good.
They'll be here when I'm gone, and they'll do a better job than me. But
given the kind of human raw material pool we have to draw on, our failure
rate is high---just like it's high with every other institution in this
society from the big corporations to rock bands to the academic world.
We're not the only ones who have problems with Generation X's insatiable
ego, demand for instant gratification with no effort or risk, and
complete lack of any kind of self-control or discipline.
A friend asked me if he didn't think the whole situation with
this boy was a setup from the beginning, citing a couple of things about
the case which I admit look odd but which I think are explicable in ways
consistent with his initial innocence, no matter how guilty he is now of
open collaboration with the scum of the earth. There is no question in
my mindthat the boy tried. He just didn't make the cut, and instead of
fighting on and refusing to accept defeat he began to sulk and stew and
recriminate and eventually threw a tantrum, which is what his present
activity more or less amounts to. That he has been actively encouraged in
this path of behavior by the Hidden Hand and a Shady Lady of the
Levantine persuasion seems to be a pretty fair assessment, but they are
late walk-ons to our little drama.
The central and tragic figure is the boy, and at the beginning of
the play his heart was in the right place. It was just his head he
couldn't keep together...the most common Movement failing of all.
[to be continued]
"C. Forrest"
NSWPP wrote:
>
> Will Williams wrote:
> >
> > >Will Williams wrote:
> >
> > > [demented drivel and lies from Kevin Alfred Strom snipped]
> >
> >
> > > "Illegitimi non Carborundem"
> >
> > Tell that to the judge.
> >
> > Are the bastards wearing you down now, Defendant Covington?
> >
> > WWW, Plaintiff
>
> Oh, Will. Will, Will, Will..........
skinhead newsgroups. I just wanted to give you a little advice. Beware
of skinheads after you have lied to them. Skinheads represent the
abandoned inner city White youth. They grew up in the jungle like
conditions of a multi-racial America, fighting just to survive. In short
they don't care for BATF informants who testified against warriors for
the soon extinct White race. Do not molest these White youths with your
lies. They will react violently. I speak from experience. You are
getting in over your head Mr. Covington.
Speaking for Myself...
Scooter
NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>JEWISH RITUAL MURDER - CHICAGO, 1955
> The Jewish community in Chicago, one of the wealthiest in the
>world, has always exercised an extremely powerful degree of behind the
>scenes influence in the Windy City, an influence just as pervasive and
>powerful (if not more so) as that of the Italian organized crime
>syndicates, all the more sinister for being far less visible.
> In October of 1955 four White children, two young boys who were
>brothers and two teenaged sisters, were abducted and murdered in a manner
>which was suggestive of Jewish ritual sacrifice, the liturgical object of
>which is to obtain Gentile blood to mix with the matzoh used in several
>esoteric Jewish religious ceremonies such as Purim, Passover, and Kol
>Nidre at Yom Kippur.
You only suceed in making yourself look like a cretin by posting
such drivel here.
Do you believe everything you read?
>for further info contact http://www.nswpp.org
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yeshiver bucher
NSWPP wrote:
>
> Will Williams wrote:
>
> [demented drivel and lies from Kevin Alfred Strom snipped]
>
"Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus."
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Alex Roman
On Fri, 06 Jun 1997 13:21:39 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Jim Dyer wrote:
>>
>> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>>
>> I belong to NAMBLA and I am gay; I can butt fuck little boys all day.
>>
>> >
>> > JGB
>> >
>> > =====================================================================
>> > Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
>> > "What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
>
>
>
>Dear Mr. Brown,
>
> I thought the Church of the Creator was defunct?
>
> -WS
My god, another domestic dispute! Please tell me what's your beef with
the COTC?
"As I thought that they (The Jews) were persecuted on
account of their faith my aversion to hearing remarks
against them grew almost into a feeling of abhorrence.
I did not in the least suspect that there could be
such a thing as a systematic anti-semitism."
Adolph Hitler
Omri Schwarz
NSWPP wrote:
>
> JEWISH RITUAL MURDER - CHICAGO, 1955
>
newspaper clippings, let alone any citation for primary evidence.
Mr. McCarthy/Mr. McVay, this one's a keeper.
--
When I pronounce the word Future,/the first syllable already belongs to
the
past./When I pronounce the word Silence,/I destroy it./When I pronounce
the
word Nothing,/I make something no nonbeing can hold./ (Wislawa
Szymborska)
Omri Schwarz (.sig snarfed from Gregory Taylor)
NSWPP
"C. Forrest" wrote:
[drivel about Skinheads snipped]
I have been working with Skinheads and ex-Skinheads for about
eight years now, and I have never had the slightest problem with them,
precisely because I speak only the truth and they know it. On at least
one occasion, however, Metzger's man Dennis Mahon got the shit stomped
out him by some Skins because they caught him out lying to them about
Metzger's "arrangement" with Dees. (Georgia, August 1994).
This is a good opportunity to address another common National
Alliance fantasy which appears frequently in their posts, and that is
that they are going to "get" me, that is that some third party is going
to miraculously appear on the scene and "work me over" or beat me up,
something of the kind. This is the underlying thought behind the NA and
Metzger's common practice of finding out where I live and then
broadcasting my home address as widely as possible, in the hopes that
someone, most likely blacks or leftists, will do what they themselves
lack the manhood and courage to do personally.
This has not happened, because the left remembers
Greensboro and Skinheads are actually pretty street-smart (usually), and
they know a bullshitter and a coward when they see one---and in Metzger
and the National Alliance they see plenty. Not one single person has ever
bothered to take the NA or Metzger up on their incitement, with two
exceptions.
On October 31st, 1996 someone vandalized my mail box in Carrboro
with a National Alliance rune, and on December 1st, 1996 someone crept
up on my apartment and defecated on the breezeway in front of my door. I
almost stepped in it when I went out the door the next morning to go get
a paper; this is as close as the NA or Metzger have ever come to "getting
me" in all the years they have been screaming threats and abuse.
I would like to take the opportunity to set the record straight.
I originally believed that Will W. Williams did these things, but on
reflection I no longer believe that he is actually physically
responsible, although the question of incitement to others remains a
valid one. I have changed my mind because these acts are out of character
for Will in one key sense: he lacks the physical courage to risk a
personal confrontation with me, and he always has.
Will always manages to find out where I am living, in Raleigh or
Seattle or Carrboro---not a hard task since I don't make any particular
effort to conceal my place of residence and it is easily available from
public records like DMV, voters' rolls, etc. And yet not once during the
past eight years---that's how long I've been putting up with this,
folks---has he mustered sufficient bottle to confront me personally and
attempt to carry out his repeated threats. If Will DID do the mailbox and
the poop, then it is the first time in all those years he has summoned
sufficient courage even to sneak onto my property and risk meeting me in
the flesh. I have to admit, this is unlikely. Mostly probably these acts
were done by one of the other NA cultists.
This, Will, is the only thing remotely resembling a retraction of
any kind that you will ever get from me, under any circumstances
whatsoever, and if you believe otherwise you are deluding yourself very
seriously. The only reason I am making even this statement is because I
now believe I was in fact mistake in attributing to you two deeds which,
however petty and cowardly, you lack the moral fibre to commit due to the
personal risk it would entail.
These National Alliance revenge fantasies are nothing more than
that, the fantasies of emotionally disturbed, frustrated middle aged men
who are so desperate for some kind of meaning in their lives that they
have latched on to this pathetic, idiotic Pierce cult.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
The essential cowardice of these people and the insincerity of their
threats is illustrated by the fact that in both cases, had they really
desired to show their macho and attempt to assault me, they need only
have waited until I came out of my apartment to get the mail, or for that
matter they could have simply come and knocked on my door and made their
attempt at that time. They did not do so. Instead, they scuttled off into
the protective darkness.
TIMOTHY GUEGUEN
>
Organization: Saskatoon Free-Net
Distribution:
NSWPP (ns...@earthlink.net) wrote:
: JEWISH RITUAL MURDER - CHICAGO, 1955
: The Jewish community in Chicago, one of the wealthiest in the
: world, has always exercised an extremely powerful degree of behind the
: scenes influence in the Windy City, an influence just as pervasive and
: powerful (if not more so) as that of the Italian organized crime
: syndicates, all the more sinister for being far less visible.
: In October of 1955 four White children, two young boys who were
: brothers and two teenaged sisters, were abducted and murdered in a manner
: which was suggestive of Jewish ritual sacrifice, the liturgical object of
: which is to obtain Gentile blood to mix with the matzoh used in several
: esoteric Jewish religious ceremonies such as Purim, Passover, and Kol
: Nidre at Yom Kippur.
<further bizarre and bogus ranting snipped>
Never thought I would see THIS. An actual example of classic blood
libel, namely claiming that Jews murder people for religious purposes.
Hard to believe that anyone would be stupid enough to believe this crap,
but then the writer claims to represent the NSWWP, an organisation not
noted for any sort of intelligent thought.
tim gueguen ad...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
Roger Hughes
In message <5nv70b$7...@news.taranaki.ac.nz> -
sco...@taranaki.ac.no.spam.nz (Scooter)Sat, 14 Jun 1997 21:46:14 GMT
writes:
:>
:>NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp28.tipnet.co.nz
:>X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82
:>Xref: news.usaor.net alt.politics.white-power:81813 alt.nswpp:790 alt.revisionism:126166 alt.skinheads:89574 alt.conspiracy:248837
:>
:>NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
:>
:>>JEWISH RITUAL MURDER - CHICAGO, 1955
:>
:>> The Jewish community in Chicago, one of the wealthiest in the
:>>world, has always exercised an extremely powerful degree of behind the
:>>scenes influence in the Windy City, an influence just as pervasive and
:>>powerful (if not more so) as that of the Italian organized crime
:>>syndicates, all the more sinister for being far less visible.
:>
:>> In October of 1955 four White children, two young boys who were
:>>brothers and two teenaged sisters, were abducted and murdered in a manner
:>>which was suggestive of Jewish ritual sacrifice, the liturgical object of
:>>which is to obtain Gentile blood to mix with the matzoh used in several
:>>esoteric Jewish religious ceremonies such as Purim, Passover, and Kol
:>>Nidre at Yom Kippur.
:>You only suceed in making yourself look like a cretin by posting
:>such drivel here.
I agree. Can you believe the audacity! Someone suggesting that the Jews
could actually do something wrong.
Yours truly,
Roger Hughes
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Nitin Paul Batra
I'm not Jewish (I'm Indian), but I wonder why it bothers you that many
Jewish citizens of Chicago have been successful. was it because you failed
to do so? why
else would you hate a person for achieving more than you? do you not
regard that hatred as a sore loser's hatred?
Omri Schwarz
Roger Hughes wrote:
>
In October of 1955 four White children, two young boys who were
> :>>brothers and two teenaged sisters, were abducted and murdered in a manner
> :>>which was suggestive of Jewish ritual sacrifice, the liturgical object of
> :>>which is to obtain Gentile blood to mix with the matzoh used in several
> :>>esoteric Jewish religious ceremonies such as Purim, Passover, and Kol
> :>>Nidre at Yom Kippur.
Once again Winston 1. demonstrates that he knows nothing about Jewish
holidays: matsah is used ceremonially *only* during Passover,
(besides, matsah can be very unkind to one's digestive tract if eaten in
Passover scale quantities) and 2. he knows nothing about how Matsah is
made: the only ingredients are simple flour and water.
Omri's handy matsah recipe: take flour (not self-rising flour). Mix in
a half measure of water. Roll into dough. Flatten. If you want to
make it look factory made, stab it with a fork in rows. Put in hot
oven. Wait 10 minutes.
Little caveat: you have to do steps 2-4 and have the dough in an over
within 30 seconds.
If you want matsah that actually tastes good, got to the Sinai to a
Bedouin encampment. They mix native herbs into the dough. Tastes
divine. Just make sure your sojurn doesn't coincide with Ramaddan.
> :>You only suceed in making yourself look like a cretin by posting
> :>such drivel here.
>
> I agree. Can you believe the audacity! Someone suggesting that the >Jews
> could actually do something wrong.
If you want to do that, come up with something that's actually true.
Will Williams
"NSWPP" (Harold Covington) wrote:
>Some of you have asked what is behind the National Alliance
>lawsuit against me. I believe that the articles below, in addition to
>considerations involving the power structure's overall agenda of
>eliminating potential competition for the NA "controlled opposition",
>triggered the lawsuit. I republish them accordingly. - WS
>-Harold Covington
>[September 29th, 1996]
>A TEAPOT TEMPEST, BUT NOT WITHOUT FEATURES OF INTEREST
Harold Covington, in a rare moment of retrospection, stares into the
mirror and attempts to sum up his role in the "Movement." :
> The boy has crossed the line between legitimate criticism and
>betrayal of a people. He has become a STUKACH, a racially aware White
>person who knows the truth of race and the Jewish Question (his writings
>indicate that he clearly does), but who actively assists the Jews,
>because his personal disappointment in his dreams and his desires has
>grown into a hatred of his own race so bitter and twisted that he has
>become lost to all human decency and sense of shame or honor...
> This boy is not important...This boy did what he has
>done because in his feverish and tortured ego, nothing was more important
>than his desires, his disappointments, his viewpoint, his personal
>vindication.
>... I promise you, what we must discuss over the next few days is far
>more important than any mere race-baiting.
> For I must reiterate the greatest painful, uncomfortable truth
>which has made me and my Party so feared and hated throughout the
>Movement, the truth that so many stop their ears and scream abuse at us
>in a frantic effort not to hear---and that is that the enemy is US. The
>problem lies in US...["NSWPP"]
> -Harold Covington
>for further info contact http://www.fraud.org
Very revealing! I believe the Freudian crowd calls it projection, or
transferrence: the ability to redirect one's own behavior onto another
individual.
NSWPP
The BOK wrote:
> How do you pay your bills? Where do you get your money from?
>
> Best Regards,
> Vincent
> Not from Jewish publishers, Vincent. Nor from land deals done
with Jewish cult leaders who drug young boys and sodomize them. I have
explained before that up until January of this year I worked at manual
labor for a living, and except for one brief period in the late 1970s
when I was full time for the NSPA I already have. Your guru has, so far
as I am aware, never held a "real job" in his life but has lived off the
Movement and the donations of others since 1966.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
NSWPP
Will Williams wrote:
[drivel snipped]
"Illegitimi non Carborundem"
The BOK
Fat, Jewish Nazi, now that's irony.
How do you pay your bills? Where do you get your money from?
Best Regards,
Vincent
"Winston Smith loves Big Brother."
-From "1984" by George Orwell
http://www.natall.com
http://www.natvan.com
To Subscribe to American Dissident Voices weekly transcripts
(the printed version of our weekly radio program),
mail: vin...@dreamon.com.
The BOK
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 03:17:11 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>The BOK wrote:
>
>> How do you pay your bills? Where do you get your money from?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Vincent
>
> Not from Jewish publishers, Vincent. Nor from land deals done
>with Jewish cult leaders who drug young boys and sodomize them. I have
>explained before that up until January of this year I worked at manual
>labor for a living, and except for one brief period in the late 1970s
>when I was full time for the NSPA I already have. Your guru has, so far
>as I am aware, never held a "real job" in his life but has lived off the
>Movement and the donations of others since 1966.
>
>Winston Smith
No you do not. As you were served with Will's lawsuit in the afternoon
during the week and you were just getting out of bed. I suppose it is
one of those labor jobs where you create your own hours, right?
So please, tell us what where you work. It is public knowledge, you do
pay taxes don't you? And please tell us how much you weigh these days.
I have this realy funny picture of you wearing your homemade "Nazi"
uniform and weighing about 300 pounds, standing in front of a big
German flag. Do you remember it? It was when you where the #2 man for
Frank Cohen, you know, the Jew who headed yet another NS organization
whose parents were pleading with him to come to his senses.
Fat, Jewish Nazi, now that's irony.
"Winston Smith loves Big Brother."
-From "1984" by George Orwell
How do you pay your bills? Where do you get your money from?
Best Regards,
Vincent
"Our task in not to persuade a numerical majority of the American
population that we are right, but rather to build the numerical
minority whose values coincide with ours into a majority of will and
determination."
-Dr. William L. Pierce, First General Convention of the National
Alliance, Sept. 2, 1978.
NSWPP
FIRST AMERICANS WHITE?
Copyright London Times, U.K.
"There is a suspicion among anthropologists that some of the
people behind the effort to rebury . . . ancient skeletons are
afraid that the bones could show that the earliest Americans
were Caucasoid," wrote Preston.
June 15 1997
UNITED STATES
Ancient Bones Make White
Mischief In US
by Tony Allen-Mills
New York
THEIR names are Wizard's Beach Willie, Kennewick Man
and the Spirit Cave Mummy. America's oldest secrets may
be hidden in their 9,000-year-old bones. Yet the quest to
unravel one of history's most tantalising mysteries - who got
to America first? - is beginning to sink in a swamp of
fossilised politics, racial myth and archeological angst.
To the dismay of scientists searching for traces of man's
earliest movements across North America, some of the
region's most significant archeological remains have ended up
not in a laboratory but in court.
A legal skirmish over the ancestral rights of Red Indian tribes
has erupted into a sinister battle for the heart of American
history. Amid allegations that research is being stifled by the
government and that science is being tainted by racism,
academics are pondering a single question: was the first man in
America white?
Earlier this month, a court in Portland, Oregon, refused to
allow anthropologists access to Kennewick Man, a
well-preserved 9,300-year-old skeleton found last summer
on a mudbank along the Columbia River in neighbouring
Washington state.
Scientists have described the find as a potential archeological
breakthrough, comparable with the discovery of both Willie,
a 9,200-year-old male skull found at Wizard's Beach,
Nevada, and the mummified body of a 9,400-year-old man
found buried in a cave at Spirit Lake, also in Nevada. All
three display Caucasian features. That such ancient human
remains should have been recovered from American soil
came as no surprise to scientists. It has long been widely
asserted that the first Americans walked from Asia across the
Bering land bridge that once linked what is now Alaska and
Russia. These Asian migrants are generally assumed to have
been the ancestors of American Indians.
Yet it was not the Bering walk that first sprang to the mind of
James Chatters, a forensic anthropologist who was the first
scientist to examine the skull of Kennewick Man last year.
When police handed him the skull in a plastic bucket,
Chatters noticed at once its Caucasian appearance.
He thought it might have belonged to an early American
pioneer or fur trapper. Later he realised who it most
resembled - Patrick Stewart, the actor who plays Captain
Picard in Star Trek: The Next Generation. Examining the rest
of the skeleton later, Chatters spotted an object embedded in
the pelvis. It looked like an old Indian spearpoint of a kind
used at least 4,500 years ago. He was sufficiently intrigued to
send a fragment of bone for radiocarbon dating.
Chatters discovered that his Caucasian pioneer had been
patrolling the wilds of Oregon 9,000 years before the white
man was supposed to have arrived. "It was pretty exciting,"
he said. "But there was a certain amount of dread involved as
well. I knew then that it would get very hot and heavy."
The next move in what was rapidly to become a struggle for
the right to probe America's past came from a local tribe of
Red Indians, the Umatilla. They claimed possession of the
skeleton under recent legislation aimed at stopping Indian
grave-robbing.
Under the Native American Graves Protection and
Repatriation Act of 1990, tribes are entitled to claim any
Indian remains discovered on their traditional lands. The
Umatilla declared that Kennewick Man's bones were the
sacred relics of one of their ancestors. According to the
tribe's Washat religion, they should be buried in a place
known only to the Umatilla.
Thus began a furious legal and political dispute that has
stranded Kennewick Man - now known to the Umatilla as
Oid-pa-ma-na-ti-thayt (ancient one) - in a secure vault
guarded by the US Army Corps of Engineers. If he still had
ears, they would surely be burning as lawyers, scientists,
politicians and Indian chiefs wrangle over his future.
Similar legal problems afflict the Spirit Cave Mummy, claimed
by the Northern Paiute tribe. Scientists have already lost the
oldest complete skeleton uncovered in the northwest, the
Buhl skeleton, which was returned to the Shoshone-Bannock
tribe for burial. "What should be an exciting time for everyone
has become a game for lawyers," said Chatters.
Last week an article in The New Yorker magazine added fuel
to the flames by hinting at a conspiracy to prevent Red
Indians from being ousted as America's earliest victims. "If
the original inhabitants of the New World were Europeans
who were pushed out by Indians, would it change the Indians'
position in the great moral landscape?" asked Douglas
Preston, the article's author.
Preston noted that several tabloid papers and television chat
shows have referred to Kennewick as a "white man".
Chatters added: "There are some less racially enlightened
folks in the neighbourhood who are saying, 'Hey, our
ancestors were here first, so we don't owe the Indians
anything'."
The scientists suing for access to Kennewick Man in Portland
say grave-robbing laws are being misapplied in an
archeological case that may have no connection with the
Umatilla tribe. "The core question is: who is this individual and
what population group was he part of?" said Alan Schneider,
a lawyer for the scientists. "To determine that, scientists have
to study the skeleton."
Yet scientific arguments have not impressed Armand
Minthorn, a Umatilla religious leader who seeks to emphasise
traditional tribal values. "In the past, archeologists have
desecrated Indian burial sites in the name of science," he
complained. "They failed to recognise what those remains
mean to us as Indian people. Ancestral remains are very
sacred."
For many other tribes the issue of recovering Indian remains
is "really traumatic and emotional", said Leigh Jenkins of the
Hopi tribe in Arizona. But some see in the Indian protests a
politically motivated attempt to protect Red Indian status.
"There is a suspicion among anthropologists that some of the
people behind the effort to rebury . . . ancient skeletons are
afraid that the bones could show that the earliest Americans
were Caucasoid," wrote Preston.
It may take several years and a Supreme Court ruling before
Kennewick Man's fate is resolved. Even then, scientists may
not be able to prove conclusively that the first Americans
were Europeans who, after a long walk across the tundra
from France, beat Christopher Columbus by more than
9,000 years.
"This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its
mantle of strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker
Yockey, IMPERIUM
NSWPP
The BOK wrote:
I just noticed the following:
As you were served with Will's lawsuit in the afternoon
> during the week and you were just getting out of bed. I suppose it is
> one of those labor jobs where you create your own hours, right?
This is, quite simply, a lie. I was served with the papers at
eight o'clock in the morning and I was already awake. Since Vincent lives
in Florida, I presume he got this from Will W. Williams, who made it up.
NSWPP
I was served with the National Alliance lawsuit at aproximately
eight o'clock in the morning and was already awake. Will Williams'
statement on this matter is a lie, in its entirety.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
NSWPP
The BOK wrote:
[gibberish snipped]
The National Alliance---a group of people passionately devoted to the
proposition that paying Bill Pierce's mortgage is a revolutionary act.
NSWPP
The BOK wrote:
[gibberish from Vincent snipped]
"Illegitimi non Carborundem"
Will Williams
vin...@dreamon.com (The BOK) wrote:
>"NSWPP" (Harold Covington) wrote:
>>The BOK wrote:
>>
>>> How do you pay your bills? Where do you get your money from?
>>>
>>
>>... I have explained before that up until January of this year I worked
>>at manual labor for a living.... [smears deleted.]
>>
>>Harold Covington
>No you do not. As you were served with Will's lawsuit in the afternoon
>during the week and you were just getting out of bed.
Actually, Vince, it was late morning. After waiting several hours for
HC to emerge from his apartment to go load pallets with his Mexican
co-workers, my process-server, a private detective I hired, finally
went up and banged on Covington's apartment door. It must have jolted
him awake because he hit the floor with a resounding thud, according
to Mr. Sloane, the server. Covington had obviously been dead asleep
very late in the morning on a normal workday, Thursday, October 31st.
That was a couple of months before he was actually able to join the
leisure class and dabble 20 hours a day at his keyboard.
> I suppose it is
>one of those labor jobs where you create your own hours, right?
"Flex" hours! Yeah, that's it. That company let's its Mexicans set
their own hours. Maybe they gave HC special status since he's "leader
of all National Socialists worldwide?"
I'll bet he's the only professional pallet loader in the country who
can brag about his "pre-audited income tax returns." That's rich!
>So please, tell us what where you work. It is public knowledge, you do
>pay taxes don't you? And please tell us how much you weigh these days.
>I have this realy funny picture of you wearing your homemade "Nazi"
>uniform and weighing about 300 pounds, standing in front of a big
>German flag. Do you remember it? It was when you where the #2 man for
>Frank Cohen, you know, the Jew who headed yet another NS organization
>whose parents were pleading with him to come to his senses.
>Fat, Jewish Nazi, now that's irony.
He can lose the weight if he tried. If he's in fact a Jew, maybe he
should switch to Episcopalianism like Ms. Albright did. Worked for
her!
>"Winston Smith loves Big Brother."
> -From "1984" by George Orwell
"He [WS] loved Big Brother." It's the last line in the book _1984_. It
follows the line, "Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of
his nose..." Is Harold trying to tell us something? I thought he only
guzzled beer.
>How do you pay your bills? Where do you get your money from?
I doubt you'll get a straight answer here.
Quinton
Cliff Swiger wrote:
>
> Harold Covington, alias Winston Smith, of the NSWPP has been posting
> derogatory and malicious comments about Dr. William Pierce, Will
> Williams and the National Alliance membership. In one recent post, Mr.
> Covington referred to me as "a useful idiot" and claims that I'm
> perhaps unknowingly aiding and abetting the covert operations of Dr.
> William Pierce.
He referred to me as a "dork." Not that it bothers me in the slightest
bit, I guess he called me that because he doesn't like me calling him
uncle Harold. But why does he feel that he needs to resort to name
calling?
> Mr. Covington is, in my opinion, an agent provocateur who attempts to
> destroy any legitimate pro-White organization that threatens the
> current Jewish hegemony. Mr. Covington's M.O. is to lure anyone he can
> away from sincere National Socialist and pro-White movements into his
> own NSWPP. Because he tries to operate within the ranks of National
> Socialism, he obviously cannot ridicule National Socialist philosophy
> and has no other alternative than to put forth unfounded,
> unsubstantiated character assassinations on those individuals who are
> reaching and organizing others in our struggle. His entire operation
> depends on the possibility that others will believe his lies.
Excellent. Very well said Cliff. It's really quite simple and most
intelligent people will see the evidence before them and see what is
actually going on here.
> Cliff Swiger
> National Alliance Member
> http://www.natall.com
> http://www.natvan.com
Cliff Swiger
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:32:37 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I was served with the National Alliance lawsuit at aproximately
>eight o'clock in the morning and was already awake. Will Williams'
>statement on this matter is a lie, in its entirety.
Harold Covington, alias Winston Smith, of the NSWPP has been posting
derogatory and malicious comments about Dr. William Pierce, Will
Williams and the National Alliance membership. In one recent post, Mr.
Covington referred to me as "a useful idiot" and claims that I'm
perhaps unknowingly aiding and abetting the covert operations of Dr.
William Pierce.
I have mentioned a couple of times that I have met Dr. Pierce, Will
Williams, Kevin Strom and other personnel at National Alliance
headquarters. Everyone that I had contact with treated me with much
respect and acted in a very professional manner. At National Alliance
headquarters there is no fenced in compound as is sometimes alleged by
the Jewish media outlets. There are no armed guards, no underground
bunkers loaded with firearms and explosive devices, and no
paramilitary training grounds. All of these assumptions and
allegations are fabrications of those who oppose our ideology and
program. Due to the fact that the National Alliance builds it's
foundation on science, history and the laws of nature, our opponents
are "naturally" horrified as such thought exposes their lies,
mistruths and mythology which are instrumental in maintaining their
political control over the free thinker.
Mr. Covington is, in my opinion, an agent provocateur who attempts to
destroy any legitimate pro-White organization that threatens the
current Jewish hegemony. Mr. Covington's M.O. is to lure anyone he can
away from sincere National Socialist and pro-White movements into his
own NSWPP. Because he tries to operate within the ranks of National
Socialism, he obviously cannot ridicule National Socialist philosophy
and has no other alternative than to put forth unfounded,
unsubstantiated character assassinations on those individuals who are
reaching and organizing others in our struggle. His entire operation
depends on the possibility that others will believe his lies.
Cliff Swiger
Paal-Eirik Filssunu
NSWPP wrote:
>
> FIRST AMERICANS WHITE?
>
> Copyright London Times, U.K.
>
> "There is a suspicion among anthropologists that some of the
> people behind the effort to rebury . . . ancient skeletons are
> afraid that the bones could show that the earliest Americans
> were Caucasoid," wrote Preston.
If people would quit fussing about who was 'here first', and concentrate
on who's 'here NOW', maybe everything would acquire a more practical
light of reason...
As a person respectful and even boastful of his Nordic roots, including
the Norse in North America (c.985 ce), Greenland, and the Maritimes,
I am not bothered by 'conflicting' claims of Italians and Spaniards
anymore than updated claims of Irish, Libyans, and others having sailed
here in the last 2000 years...
It doesn't matter who was 'first' in this case, but who STAYS....
Paal-Eirik
(Q: Who was here before the Indians??? A: Go ask the T-Rex....)
Will Williams
"NSWPP" (Harold Covington) wrote:
>The BOK wrote:
>
>> As you were served with Will's lawsuit in the afternoon
>> during the week and you were just getting out of bed. I suppose it is
>> one of those labor jobs where you create your own hours, right?
> This is, quite simply, a lie. I was served with the papers at
>eight o'clock in the morning and I was already awake. Since Vincent lives
>in Florida, I presume he got this from Will W. Williams, who made it up.
No lie. It's was later that eight. The sun is pretty high in the sky
in those pictures I have of the you accepting the papers at your door.
How do you explain that? You were definitely awakened by Mr. Sloane
though. Are you calling Sonny a liar? Remember Sonny, Harold? When he
saw what you'd been spreading about me he offered to hunt you down and
serve you for me for free. That's what old friends are for, isn't it,
Harold. Sonny will appreciate hearing you called him a "pimply-faced
punk." That's why you don't have any friends, Harold. You always piss
all over them like that so unnecessisarily. YOU ARE THE "NSWPP" !
Regardless, 8:00 AM is late morning in the world of pallet loaders,
and all I said was "late morning." Hell, the morning is 2/3 over by
8:00. Vincent was working from memory of what I said it appears. I
certainly forgive him. Won't you?
With all the questions you've been asked as general secretary, it's
odd you'd ignore all the important stuff and key on the time the
papers were served as some kind of proof that everybody is lying about
Poor Ol' Lying Uncle Harold. Reminds me of Captain Quig and the
strawberries. This is enjoyable. There's nothing I love more than a
careful search for truth.
The BOK
Again, a fat, Jewish Nazi, now that's irony.
How do you pay your bills? Where do you get your money from?
Best Regards,
Vincent
"Winston Smith loves Big Brother."
-From "1984" by George Orwell
NSWPP
PART 2
OVERMAN: Claim 6: The doors of the "alleged" gas chambers are
much too weak to withstand the pressure of people trying to escape death.
No. The doors are massive, and reinforced with iron bars.
The ultimate proof for the purpose of these doors is that
the small peephole is protected from the inside with a
strong metal grid, installed there so the victims would not
break the glass in the peephole. The revisionists present
pictures of doors for the *delousing* chambers, which were
not fortified.
[COCLES: Producing one of these, of course, is another matter.
The forensic evidence got conveniently "destroyed."]
[These "massively fortified doors"---let me guess. Dynamited by
the SS, right? You know, I find it fascinating the Overman has conceded a
major point here, that the "gas chambers" on display today at Auschwitz
were not in fact used to kill people. One wonders when this fact will be
acknowledged publicly by the Polish government tour guides who blithely
tell tourists that these were the dreaded Auschwitz gas chambers? Sounds
like the Holocaust industry's right hand hasn't yet figured out what the
left hand is doing. - WINSTON SMITH]
OVERMAN Claim 7: If the Nazis had intended to kill people with
gas, they would have used something other than Zyklon-B.
Nonsense. Zyklon-B was used because - a) It is extremely useful
for killing people. b) It was widely available, as it was used for
delousing. c) It is easy to pack, store and transport.
[COCLES: Two out of three isn't too bad.]
OVERMAN: Claim 8: Fumes from a diesel engine are not toxic
enough to kill people. (This claim is made with regard to the death camp
of Treblinka - see file with ruling of German courts on this. In other
death camps, gasoline engines were used. The method of killing was simple
- people were crammed into the gas chambers, and the exhaust of powerful
engines was pumped into them).
Nonsense. In a closed chamber, of course diesel fumes will kill.
There was actually a study on this, and its results are reported in "The
Toxicity of Fumes from a diesel Engine Under Four Different Running
Conditions", by Pattle et al., British Journal of Industrial Medicine,
1957, ol 14, p. 47-55. These researchers ran a few experiments in which
various animals were exposed to diesel fumes, and studied the results.
[COCLES: "Nonsense" must be Overman's favorite word. Perhaps
because he writes so much of it?]
[I do not recall ever hearing any responsible Revisionist---or
even any irresponsible one---claim that diesel fumes won't kill people.
Has anyone ever actually made such a claim? - WINSTON SMITH]
OVERMAN: In the experiments, the exhaust of a small diesel engine
(568 cc, 6 BHP) was connected to a chamber 10 cubic meters (340 cubic
feet) in volume, and the animals were put inside it. In all cases, the
animals died. Death was swifter when the intake of air to the engine was
restricted, as this causes a large increase in the amount of carbon
monoxide (CO) that is emitted. (See, for instance, "diesel Engine
eference Book", by Lilly, 1985, p. 18/8, where it is stated
that at a high air/fuel ratio the concentration of CO is
only a few parts per million but for lower ratios (25:1) the
concentration of CO can rise up to 3,000 ppm. It is very
easy to restrict the air intake - the British researchers
did so by partialy covering the air intake opening with a
piece of metal.)
Even in cases where the CO output was low, the animals still
died from other toxic components - mainly, irritants and
nitrogen dioxide.
[Again, this is an interesting digression. I completely accept
that diesel fuel in an enclosed space will kill animals and people, as
does any person of common sense. Now, I repeat---WHO EXACTLY AMONG
REVISIONISTS has ever, in fact, CLAIMED that diesel won't kill? The whole
subject seems oddly specious and contrived to me. - WINSTON SMITH]
Now, the diesel engines used in Treblinka were much larger -
they belonged to captured Soviet T-34 tanks. These tanks
weighed 26-31 tons (depending on the model) and had a 500
BHP engine (compared to a mere 6 BHP in the British
experiments). The volume of the extermination chambers in
Treblinka is, of course, a factor. But the chambers' volume
is about 60 cubic meters (2040 cubic feet); this is 6 times
more than those in the British experiments, but the
difference in the size of the engines is much larger than a
factor of 6.
It should be remembered that what matters in CO poisoning is
not the concentration of CO, but the ratio of CO to oxygen.
In a small, gas-tight room, crammed full of people, oxygen
levels drop quickly, thus making death by CO poisoning
faster. As noted, other toxic components in the fumes
further accelerate mortality.
The SS was aware of the fact that cramming as many people as
possible into the gas chamber, thus leaving no empty spaces,
would accelerate mortality. This is evident, for instance,
from a letter regarding "gassing vans" (used in the Chelmno
extermination camp) sent to SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Walter
Rauff, 5 June 1942. The letter is quite long (more of it is
reproduced in the file of original Nazi documents), but here
is the relevant part:
2) The vans are normally loaded with 9-10 people per square
meter. With the large Saurer special vans this is not
possible because although they do not become overloaded
their maneuverability is much impaired. A reduction in the
load area appears desirable. It can be achieved by reducing
the size of the van by c. 1 meter. The difficulty referred
to cannot be overcome by reducing the size of the load. For
a reduction in the numbers will necessitate a longer period
of operation because the free spaces will have to be filled
with CO. By contrast, a smaller load area which is
completely full requires a much shorter period of operation
since there are no free spaces.
[Overman spends more time on the "diesel will kill" topic than
almost any other---again, suspiciously in my mind. Is he in fact
responding to assertions which have never been made by our side? Can
someone enlighten me? Like I said, I don't keep up with Revisionism as
much as I should. - WINSTON SMITH]
OVERMAN: Claim 9: If so many people were actually killed and
cremated, where is all the ash?
After a person is cremated, quite a small amount of ash
remains - it fits in a small urn, or a box. This means that ashes of
tens of thousands of people fit into one truck load. The ash was either
scattered around in fields, buried, or - in Auschwitz, for instance -
dumped into a river.
[COCLES: Again, the forensic evidence is quite conveniently
missing.]
[Again, based on my own observations in the field, if there were
any large-scale attempt made to destroy bodies in "burning pits" by the
Germans, the remaining material would have been far greater in bulk and
volume than the small amount of ash produced from a single body by a
modern crematorium in tip-top operating condition. There would especially
have been acres of bones and skeletal remains, as anyone who saw the
fields outside Hue after the 1968 Tet offensive when the Communists
briefly captured the city and slaughtered their opponents and their
opponents' families can testify. There was enough remaining on the site
four years later when I saw it so that the idea of millions of bodies
simply "disappearing" at Auschwitz is absurd. - WINSTON SMITH]
OVERMAN: Claim 10: The gas chambers were never sealed. Or there
was never any provision to exhaust the gas from them. Or there was no
way for the guards to drop the Zyklon-B pellets in. Or...
As stated earlier, the extermination chambers were dynamited
by the SS when they left the camp. There is therefore no direct evidence
of what they looked like when they were in operation. The construction
plans do include the air extraction systems.
[COCLES: Where, pray tell, are these construction "plans"? Mrs.
Lipstadt has been running to and fro across America claiming to have one,
but she hasn't produced one for examination. Ask yourself why.]
[Why don't these alleged "extermination gas chambers" which were
so conveniently destroyed by the SS show up on Allied air reconnaissance
photographs of the Auschwitz-Birkenau artificial rubber manufacturing
facility, which is what it was? Why do none of the aerial photographs
show the smoke from the crematoria or the alleged "burning pits"? -
WINSTON SMITH]
OVERMAN: Finally, the revisionists can not give any explanation
of what the "alleged" extermination chambers were *for*. (They tried to
claim they were used as morgues, but that is impossible - see [4] above.)
Nor are they able to explain why the supposed "delousing chambers" were
dynamited - perhaps to conceal "crimes against lice"?
[COCLES: It's not impossible at all. And who's to say that the
Russians didn't dynamite part of the camp, to cover their own crimes?
They have already admitted building the "replica" of the gas chamber
AFTER the war, and pawning it off as the real thing for many years
afterwards. The enmity of Russians towards Germans during the war is well
known.]
OVERMAN: No, the gas chambers that stood in Auschwitz were
designed to kill, and did kill, hundreds of thousands of "undesirable"
human beings.
[They were in fact undesirable, but that's another story. -
WINSTON SMITH]
OVERMAN: This is not a question, and it is not open for debate,
no matter what the Holocaust revisionists would like you to think. It is
simply a historical fact, just as World War II is a historical fact.
[COCLES: Mrs. Lipstadt won't debate us, and neither will her
sycophant, Mr. Overman. Ask yourself why.]
[History is written by the victors, Mr. Overman. When we win, as
we will some day, we will do a complete re-write on that whole period
vich vill fill you mit amaze. Until then, just bear in mind, Mr. Overman,
that what Abe Lincoln said was true---even with all your wealth, your
power, your influence, and your control of the media, you really CAN'T
fool all of the people all of the time. Your altar is crumbling. I am 43
now. I believe I will live to see your whole house of lies come crashing
down into the dust. I'm looking forward to it. - WINSTON SMITH]
For Aryan Victory,
WINSTON SMITH
General Secretary
N.S.W.P.P.
NSWPP
Cliff Swiger wrote:
[tirade of abuse snipped]
The National Alliance is an organization which does business with
Jews, openly and publicly, and which contains in its membership
individuals of the kind whose posts you have seen here on Usenet, posts
which lay their mental and emotional stability open to serious question.
People considering supporting the National Alliance need to understand
that their membership dues and their book order money will be used for
the private enrichment of a man, Dr. William L. Pierce, who is a fraud
and an incompetent weakling, and their money will be sued to finance
mailicious lawsuits against anyone who dares to criticize. Will Williams'
statements to the contrary are utterly lacking in anything remotely
resembling credibility.
There are further instances of cult-like and anti-social behavior
which have been reported on the Internet and in other places by persons
other than myself. This kind of behavior, including vandalism,
threatening telephone calls, etc. is notorious throughout the Movement
and has been for some years.
The National Alliance is a tiny minority among the growing Aryan
Resistance movement in this country, and so they will remain. They are
regarded with suspicion, distrust, and derision by most people who share
their basic outlook because of the behavior of their leadership and the
behavior of certain of their members. This is a fact, and it will not
cease to be a fact no matter how many lies, fantasies, and abusive and
vituperative posts these people produce.
Finally, it is clear that after 27 years of existence, the
National Alliance is an utter FAILURE as a political organization. In
three short years, the National Socialist White People's Party is
experiencing a growth rate at least three times that of the NA, and
furthermore we are by and large KEEPING the people we recruit; I have
never worked with any organization which has a smaller turnover than the
present day NSWPP. The day when the NSWPP will overtake the National
Alliance is not in sight yet, but it is definitely on the horizon.
People reading the defamatory and libelous posts of the NA about
myself should always bear in mind the genuine reason for this frantic
fear and loathing on their part: financial competition and the threat to
their monstrous egos. That is all this is about. That is all this has
EVER been about.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
J. Cappiello
Adam wrote:
>
> Roger Hughes wrote:
> > In October of 1955 four White children, two young boys who were
> >brothers and two teenaged sisters, were abducted and murdered in a manner
> >which was suggestive of Jewish ritual sacrifice, the liturgical object of
> >which is to obtain Gentile blood to mix with the matzoh used in several
> >esoteric Jewish religious ceremonies such as Purim, Passover, and Kol
> >Nidre at Yom Kippur.
>
> forbidden.
>
> Oh, and another thing Roger. Telling lies is a no-no, too. That
> includes NG postings.
Don't forget his comment about eating Matzah on Kol Nidre. You eat
_nothing_ durng Kol Nidre, nor for 26 hours after it.
Jackie
Reginald H. C. McTavish
nos...@bucket.bit wrote:
>
> On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 22:40:46 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >JEWISH RITUAL MURDER - CHICAGO, 1955
>
> murder on Whites on a regular basis. (Every year at the Passover blood
> ceremony. I've plunged the ceremonial "Hagaddah" blade into simpering
> Whites several times myself.)
>
> You Aryans are pathetic, genetically inferior cowards. You have no
> hope of wresting free the grasp of the Eternal Jew, goy.
Tavish replies:
If the Day of the Jew ever comes will you at least make me into a
lampshade? I want to be shedding light even in death. I really don't
want to be soap either but I could agree with being a lampshade.
>
> --
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Reginald H. C. McTavish
nos...@bucket.bit wrote:
>
> On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 14:48:28 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >I think it should be pointed out at this time that the various
> >defamatory and libelous posts which the National Alliance has been
>
> How pathetic, you White trash can't even get it together amongst
> yourselves. Yet another of many reasons you will always fail.
>
> [Snicker...]
Tavish solemnly announces:
Bob Alpert has a point and a very well stated point. He had actually hit
the nail on the head in fact. People wonder why a minority, such as
these wascally Jews, have usually come out on top in most instances-
well I know why! They may disagree among themselves but they sure don't
publicly. I am ashamed to see the fighting among groups in the ng and I
will say: "Bob deserves his laugh if you all keep putting on this free
and very public show." I know, Tavish will swing from the highest tree
in the Day of the Rope but I'd rather go down that way than to squabble
in front of people that look at us as beasts and make merriment for
them!
Tavish The True
Quinton
NSWPP wrote:
> Winston Smith [Harold Covington]
If we are so inconsequential, why are you so worried about what we say?
Let the public decide for themselves what the truth is.
Cliff Swiger
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 21:55:23 -0400, Quinton <qui...@bcpl.lib.md.us>
wrote:
>He referred to me as a "dork." Not that it bothers me in the slightest
>bit, I guess he called me that because he doesn't like me calling him
>uncle Harold. But why does he feel that he needs to resort to name
>calling?
Hi, Quinton. I had my first exposure to Harold Covington back when I
was an active reverend with the Church of the Creator. At that time,
Ben Klassen had quite a growing organization and his book, "Nature's
Eternal Religion" is probably the most profound work I've read along
with Adolf Hitler's, "Mein Kampf". I maintained a very close contact
with Steve Thomas, Lou Durrance and Ron McVan as Creativity was such
an invigorating philosophy. I even exchanged a letter or two with Rudy
Stanko after he was railroaded into prison by the Jewish meat cartel.
Anyway, Covington fabricated some of the most ludicrous and disgusting
rumors about Ben Klassen. Claiming he was a homosexual and pederast,
and often going into graphic detail as to just what exactly took place
at these escapades. For the life of me I could not imagine anyone
actually believing such obvious lies.
As I've posted here before, I've been to National Alliance
headquarters two times. On one visit I had the fine pleasure of
meeting Mr. Will Williams and working with him. He is a very
intelligent individual with impressive military credentials. He is
very dedicated and has devoted much time and energy to our cause.
Covington has no other alternative than to use smear campaigns against
others. He is trying to operate within the ranks of the National
Socialist movements and cannot challenge it's ideology otherwise he
would be easily exposed.
>Excellent. Very well said Cliff. It's really quite simple and most
>intelligent people will see the evidence before them and see what is
>actually going on here.
Thanks for the kind words. You're doing an excellent job exposing this
fraud as the liar he is.
Christopher D Dukes
What is the deal with the wankers on triangle.general as of late?
First we get the wanker that bitches here about his neighbor.
Then we get burnwhore.
Then we get the Grubor wannabe.
And now the national idiots go from being the 3 twits to
faking a handful of new wankers.
What is the freaking deal?
--
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Sending unsolicited commercial massmail to this account may result
in a network outage for your site. Have a nice day.
Roger Hughes
In message <33A6A0...@earthlink.net> - NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net>
writes:
:>In
:>experiencing a growth rate at least three times that of the NA,
Big deal! You picked-up 3 new suckers in three years and thereby
increased your membership by 300%. The question is: Is anybody
impressed?
:>I have
:>never worked with any organization which has a smaller turnover than the
:>present day NSWPP.
OK, Harold, you got your mom, sister, and you as members. I guess your
turnover rate is probably pretty low.
:>The day when the NSWPP will overtake the National
:>Alliance is not in sight yet, but it is definitely on the horizon.
Not in a million years. Talk about hallucinations!
:> People reading the defamatory and libelous posts of the NA about
:>myself should always bear in mind the genuine reason for this frantic
:>fear and loathing on their part: financial competition and the threat to
:>their monstrous egos. That is all this is about. That is all this has
:>EVER been about.
You started this whole situation. Anyone can go through DejaNews and see
that Harold Covington hit the ground running with one slanderous attack
after another. I remember days when I got 3 and 4 of his unwanted email
smear essays - everyone of which was loaded to the gills with inuendo,
lies, unfounded rumor, malicious gossip, and Covington's own jealous
hallucinations.
MOONING THE NIZKOOKS
( )( )
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ARCHIVE THIS!
Regards,
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Roger Hughes
In message <slrn5qc2gp...@unix1.netaxs.com> - nos...@bucket.bit
() writes:
:>
:>On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 14:48:28 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
:>>I think it should be pointed out at this time that the various
:>>defamatory and libelous posts which the National Alliance has been
:>
:>How pathetic, you White trash can't even get it together amongst
:>yourselves. Yet another of many reasons you will always fail.
:>
:>[Snicker...]
Aw, what are you so smug about? The Jews fight amongst themselves all
the time.
Cliff Swiger
Roger Hughes
In message <33A67D...@rogers.wave.ca> - "J. Cappiello"
<jac...@rogers.wave.ca> writes:
:>
I didn't post any of this.
Alexander Baron
In article <33a768a9....@205.161.179.1>
csw...@labyrinth.net "Cliff Swiger" writes:
At that time,
> Ben Klassen had quite a growing organization and his book, "Nature's
> Eternal Religion" is probably the most profound work I've read along
> with Adolf Hitler's, "Mein Kampf".
If you believe there are 70 million Negroes in the United States and that
the Protocols of Zion is a genuine document, yes, you could call it profound.
You could call the New Testament profound too, but personally I don't believe
men can walk on water. Keep taking the tablets Cliff.
--
"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself
the accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy
NSWPP
Cliff Swiger wrote:
[sycophantic grovelling crap deleted]
Jesus, son, your lips are just GLUED to these creeps' buttocks,
ain't they?
NSWPP
Cliff Swiger wrote:
>
> On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 21:55:23 -0400, Quinton <qui...@bcpl.lib.md.us>
> wrote:
>
> >He referred to me as a "dork." Not that it bothers me in the slightest
> >bit, I guess he called me that because he doesn't like me calling him
> >uncle Harold. But why does he feel that he needs to resort to name
> >calling?
>
> Ben Klassen had quite a growing organization and his book, "Nature's
> Eternal Religion" is probably the most profound work I've read along
> with Adolf Hitler's, "Mein Kampf".
"Nature's Eternal Religion" is long, dull, boring, poorly
written, and largely plagiarized from classical European
anti-clericalism. To compare it with MK is simply stupid.
> with Steve Thomas,
Steven Thomas is the informer who testified against George David
Loeb at his trial in Jacksomville, Florida. My "source" for this is
simple; I watched the trial on Court TV. Yet the NA will immediately
shriek that I am "making it up". These people are living in a world of
their own that has nothing to do with reality.
>Lou Durrance
Before or after his arrests for shoplifting and homosexual
prostitution?
>and Ron McVan
Later expelled by Klassen from the cult as a "heretic" of some
kind
>as Creativity was such
> an invigorating philosophy. I even exchanged a letter or two with Rudy
> Stanko after he was railroaded into prison by the Jewish meat cartel.
Rudy Stanko was Klassen's designated "successor" as Maximum
Pontoon. He got out of prison, went to Otto, took a good look at what he
was involved in and three days later flew home to the Midwest after
having told Old Benny B. to go Buttfuck himself.
> Anyway, Covington fabricated some of the most ludicrous and disgusting
> rumors about Ben Klassen. Claiming he was a homosexual and pederast,
> and often going into graphic detail as to just what exactly took place
> at these escapades.
The graphic detail was told to me by the young men who had
experienced it, some in written form, two of whom were videotaped
telling their stories in Pulaski, Tennessee in 1989. I understand the
man who made those videos got a pretty penny from Klassen for
suppressing them.
>For the life of me I could not imagine anyone
> actually believing such obvious lies.
>
> As I've posted here before, I've been to National Alliance
> headquarters two times. On one visit I had the fine pleasure of
> meeting Mr. Will Williams and working with him.
Kissy kissy! Kissy kissy!
He is a very
> intelligent individual with impressive military credentials.
The people on these newsgroups have read Mr. Williams' posts
for the past month, and they can, I believe, formulate their own view
as to the validity of this assessment.
>He is
> very dedicated and has devoted much time and energy to our cause.
>
> He seems to have a lot of time to devote, having been
unencumbered with any kind of actual Job for eleven years.
[Rest of Swiger's drivel snipped]
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
Reginald Higham Cornelius McTavish
Will Williams wrote:
>
> "Reginald H. C. McTavish" wrote:
> >Bob Alpert of the Stern gang wrote:
> >>"NSWPP" (Harold Covington) wrote:
>
> >> >I think it should be pointed out at this time that the various
> >>
> >> How pathetic, you White trash can't even get it together amongst
> >> yourselves. Yet another of many reasons you will always fail.
> >>
> >> [Snicker...]
>
> >Bob Alpert has a point and a very well stated point. He had actually hit
> >the nail on the head in fact. People wonder why a minority, such as
> >these wascally Jews, have usually come out on top in most instances-
> >well I know why! They may disagree among themselves but they sure don't
>
> Whoa! there McTavish. I'll not take anything away from Alpert's tribe,
> but you are operating under a faulty premise thinking that two
> legitimate groups are feuding. "NSWPP" is not a group it is one
> maniac, out of control.
Tavish replies:
I agree with what you said about NSWPP being one person. This is all
that I know about it. I see many that are NA but none as yet that have
NSWPP in their sig.
> Are you too dim to see this?
>
> Or do you not care about truth perhaps?
>
> You are not a very serious person I gather. I see your name a lot, but
> I do not read your stuff. Are you some authority on this situation or
> something?
Tavish replies:
I have NEVER claimed to be an authority but I don't see what is to be
gained from being as gladiators in a public arena fighting against each
other while another group watches and gets an erection on and laughing.
It reminds me of two people fighting in a burning house and not getting
out- both will suffer.
I had said:
> >...and I will say: "Bob deserves his laugh if you all keep putting on this free
> >and very public show." I know, Tavish will swing from the highest tree
> >in the Day of the Rope but I'd rather go down that way than to squabble
> >in front of people that look at us as beasts and make merriment for
> >them!
> Quit worrying what the Jew thinks.
Tavish replies:
One does not bother me but when I think of all the other silent ones
then it does.
> Demand honesty from those who claim
> to lead our people. I sure do.
Tavish replies:
That is not an unreasonable demand; in fact I wish everybody demanded
likewise.
> It's what has driven me ultimately to
> Dr. Pierce and our National Alliance. We all take different journeys,
> but *must* arrive at the same place if we are to enjoy the solidarity
> shared by all Jews when one of them is threatened.
Tavish replies:
I have never publicly maligned the NA and I have taken "hits" for using
some material as references from their site and giving them credit. I've
sided with two members previously in other open battles. By making these
statements I am leaving myself open again, but cest la vie!
> >Tavish The True
>
> Tell me Tavish, what do you think of the following excerpt from
> Defendant Covington's original answer to my defamation claim against
> him. It's on the public record here at the Wake Co. Courthouse in
> Raleigh, NC -- File # 96CV 11027; Williams vs. Covington:
>
> Paragraph 18. "...For a number of years Mr. Williams has voluntarily
> adopted a style of life which has involved active membership and
> leadership roles in a number of white supremacist organizations...With
> addressing the moral issues involved, the court will be aware that
> modern American society has determined, in its collective wisdom, that
> white supremacy and activities related to promoting white supremacy
> are disreputable and unsavory *per se*. It is the contention of the
> defense [that's Harold Covington, representing self -- WWW] that by
> choosing his present mode of living, in the eyes of all reasonable
> people he has voluntarily renounced the values and standards of
> character which would entitle him to bring an action for libel,
> against the defendant or anyone else."
>
> This from the man claiming to be "the leader of all National Socialist
> worldwide." The very people Covington claims to lead are held in utter
> contempt by him and are told here on the public record -- not in some
> goddamned newsgroup -- that they have *no* reputation or character
> because they have taken up the cause.
> You may not mind coexisting with such crap, McTavish, but my daddy
> didn't raise me like that.
Tavish replies:
I don't claim any allegiance to Covington. In fact he dissed me a few
days ago when I tried to make a common enemy look a buffoon. He called
me a forger and I didn't even put his NSWPP in my reply to heading. I
put my post and his below for your edification. Do you see me as trying
to be Harold when I left the majority of my vitals in?
> And I bet those bootboys on 'alt.skinheads'
> that Covington has been trying so hard to influence and turn away from
> legitimate pro-White groups will not be amused either, upon learning
> the truth about this professional disrupter and political saboteur.
>
> The best defense against the charge of libel is the truth. Why then
> would Defendant advance such a frivolous, crazy defense as he has
> above? Was he drunk when he wrote it? Is he insane? Both? He certainly
> is a liar. And that is why Covington has taken his case to the NG
> sandboxes rather than defend himself under oath in a courtroom -- he
> cannot go there. I've got him! Stay tuned.
>
> Speaking for myself,
> Will W. Williams
Tavish closes:
I have no beef with you Will or the NA. I just don't believe that any on
our side should be giving those that see all of us as beasts any free
entertainment.
The two posts:
My original:
Subject:
Re: Dr. Pierce's clean money
Date:
Sun, 15 Jun 1997 16:52:45 -0500
From:
Harold Covington <tav...@spam.not.net>
Organization:
The McTavish Family Enterprises (Visiting McTavish)
Newsgroups:
triangle.politics, alt.politics.white-power
References:
1 , 2 , 3 , 4
Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> In article <33A0C8...@earthlink.net>, Poor Ol' Lyin' Harold Covington
> <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > An Aryan leader's personal and political life should be a
> > complete open book, and mine is just that...
NAMBLA member said:
> Uh huh. That's why Poor Ol' Lyin' Harold doesn't sign his own name to his
> posts. This must be some new use of the phrase "complete open book" that we
> were previously unacquainted with.
Subject:
Re: Strom Lies
Date:
Fri, 06 Jun 1997 13:21:39 -0700
From:
NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net>
Organization:
NSWPP
Newsgroups:
triangle.politics, alt.politics.white-power
References:
1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 , 8
> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
>
> > I belong to NAMBLA and I am gay; I can butt fuck little boys all day.
> >
> >
> > JGB
> >
> > =====================================================================
> > Jeffrey G. Brown jeff_...@bigfoot.com
> > "What's going to happen?" "Something wonderful..." -- '2010'
Dear Mr. Brown,
I thought the Church of the Creator was defunct?
-WS
----------END----------
His reply posting:
Subject:
Forged Post
Date:
Mon, 16 Jun 1997 03:20:41 -0700
From:
NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net>
Organization:
NSWPP
Newsgroups:
triangle.politics, alt.politics.white-power
References:
1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5
This post, and any using the name "Harold Covington" in the header, is a
forgery. Any post purporting to be from me from any other e-mail address
than ns...@earthlink.net is a forgery.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
Tavish concludes with:
I have no loyalty to Smith\Covington.
TIMOTHY GUEGUEN
> <5nv70b$7...@news.taranaki.ac.nz> <5o1too$2...@crack.usaor.net> <33A4ADCE...@ugabuga.mit.edu> <33A5B2...@earthlink.net> <33A5B4...@earthlink.net>
Organization: Saskatoon Free-Net
Distribution:
NSWPP (ns...@earthlink.net) wrote:
: I think it should be pointed out at this time that the various
: defamatory and libelous posts which the National Alliance has been
: leaving on these newsgroups have now degenerated from simple personal
: abuse and vilification into outright fantasy.
<details of alledged NA attacks on "Mr Smith" deleted>
Now this is what I like to see. The various factions of white power
stupidity fighting with each other instead of harrassing the rest of us.
Keep up the good work guys!
More importantly, this kind of thing shows why the kind of "whites only"
homeland advocated by these fools would never work. Five minutes after
it was established they would start stabbing each other in the back over
ideology and threats to their own egotism.
tim gueguen ad...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
William Chesterfield McTavish
NSWPP wrote:
>
> Roger Hughes wrote:
> >
> > :>>I think it should be pointed out at this time that the various
> > :>>defamatory and libelous posts which the National Alliance has been
> > :>
> > :>yourselves. Yet another of many reasons you will always fail.
> > :>
> > :>[Snicker...]
> >
> > Aw, what are you so smug about? The Jews fight amongst themselves all
> > the time.
> >
> >
> > ( )( )
> > \ || /
> >
> > ARCHIVE THIS!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Roger Hughes
> >
> fixation...who does he think he is? Benny Klassen?
>
> WS
Subject:
Re: Strom Lies
Date:
Fri, 06 Jun 1997 13:21:39 -0700
From:
NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net>
Organization:
NSWPP
Quinton
NSWPP wrote:
>
> Roger, please stop post your ASCII butt. I have been informed
> that Cliff Swiger has received a severe shock through his lips as he
> attempted to kiss it on the screen. Evidently he thought it belonged
> to William Pierce. You shouldn't tempt the poor boy like that.
>
> Winston Smith
And Harold Covington [Winston Smith] claims that NA members are
childish?!
Once again he illustrates his hypocrisy 8AND* his childishness.
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <33A838...@spam.not.net>, Scott Bradbury, posting under the
forged ID 'tav...@spam.not.net', wrote:
> Will Williams wrote:
> [...deletia...]
> > Demand honesty from those who claim to lead our people. I sure do.
>
> Tavish replies:
> That is not an unreasonable demand; in fact I wish everybody demanded
> likewise.
I'm certain that others familiar with Bradbury's spew find this as
side-splittingly funny as I do. Anyone who demands honesty of Scott
Bradbury is immediately treated to his special brand of character
assassination, which includes charges that the challenger must either be
dying to bed Bradbury (if the challenger is a woman) or a homosexual (if a
man) to be so interested in Bradbury as to comment on one of his
hate-filled diatribes. Neither is Bradbury above using forged posts to
smear his opponents, as recent events have demonstrated.
We have here yet another proof that Bradbury espouses standards of conduct
that he is incapable and/or unwilling to adhere to himself. I love it when
bigots hang themselves with rope of their own making.
Brian Smith
NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Cliff Swiger wrote:
> [tirade of abuse snipped]
Yeah, you're one to talk about abuse, Myron Silverstein!
> The National Alliance is an organization which does business with
>Jews, openly and publicly, and which contains in its membership
>individuals of the kind whose posts you have seen here on Usenet, posts
>which lay their mental and emotional stability open to serious question.
>People considering supporting the National Alliance need to understand
>that their membership dues and their book order money will be used for
>the private enrichment of a man, Dr. William L. Pierce, who is a fraud
>and an incompetent weakling, and their money will be sued to finance
>mailicious lawsuits against anyone who dares to criticize. Will Williams'
>statements to the contrary are utterly lacking in anything remotely
>resembling credibility.
The fat, lying, Jew loser speaks again!
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Brian Smith
nos...@bucket.bit () wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 14:48:28 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>I think it should be pointed out at this time that the various
>>defamatory and libelous posts which the National Alliance has been
>How pathetic, you White trash can't even get it together amongst
>yourselves. Yet another of many reasons you will always fail.
>[Snicker...]
Well, Bob, every family has squabbles, now, don't they? :) No great
movement is without it's internal disagreements, squabbles, etc. But
as Hitler showed us, those are always eventually cleared out of the
way, and the engine of change bolts forward. Onward to victory,
against the Jewish tyrant!
Will Williams
"Reginald H. C. McTavish" wrote:
>Bob Alpert of the Stern gang wrote:
>> >I think it should be pointed out at this time that the various
>> >defamatory and libelous posts which the National Alliance has been...
>>
>> How pathetic, you White trash can't even get it together amongst
>> yourselves. Yet another of many reasons you will always fail.
>>
>> [Snicker...]
>Tavish solemnly announces:
>Bob Alpert has a point and a very well stated point. He had actually hit
>the nail on the head in fact. People wonder why a minority, such as
>these wascally Jews, have usually come out on top in most instances-
>well I know why! They may disagree among themselves but they sure don't
>publicly. I am ashamed to see the fighting among groups in the ng...
Whoa! there McTavish. I'll not take anything away from Alpert's tribe,
but you are operating under a faulty premise thinking that two
legitimate groups are feuding. "NSWPP" is not a group it is one
maniac, out of control.
Are you too dim to see this?
Or do you not care about truth perhaps?
You are not a very serious person I gather. I see your name a lot, but
I do not read your stuff. Are you some authority on this situation or
something?
>...and I will say: "Bob deserves his laugh if you all keep putting on this free
>and very public show." I know, Tavish will swing from the highest tree
>in the Day of the Rope but I'd rather go down that way than to squabble
>in front of people that look at us as beasts and make merriment for
>them!
Quit worrying what the Jew thinks. Demand honesty from those who claim
to lead our people. I sure do. It's what has driven me ultimately to
Dr. Pierce and our National Alliance. We all take different journeys,
but *must* arrive at the same place if we are to enjoy the solidarity
shared by all Jews when one of them is threatened.
>Tavish The True
Tell me Tavish, what do you think of the following excerpt from
Defendant Covington's original answer to my defamation claim against
him. It's on the public record here at the Wake Co. Courthouse in
Raleigh, NC -- File # 96CV 11027; Williams vs. Covington:
Paragraph 18. "...For a number of years Mr. Williams has voluntarily
adopted a style of life which has involved active membership and
leadership roles in a number of white supremacist organizations...With
addressing the moral issues involved, the court will be aware that
modern American society has determined, in its collective wisdom, that
white supremacy and activities related to promoting white supremacy
are disreputable and unsavory *per se*. It is the contention of the
defense [that's Harold Covington, representing self -- WWW] that by
choosing his present mode of living, in the eyes of all resonable
people he has voluntarily renounced the values and standards of
character which would entitle him to bring an action for libel,
against the defendant or anyone else."
This from the man claiming to be "the leader of all National Socialist
worldwide." The very people Covington claims to lead are held in utter
contempt by him and are told here on the public record -- not in some
goddamned newsgroup -- that they have *no* reputation or character
because they have taken up the cause.
You may not mind coexisting with such crap, McTavish, but my daddy
didn't raise me like that. And I bet those bootboys on 'alt.skinheads'
Will Williams
"NSWPP" (Harold Covington) wrote:
> I have been working with Skinheads and ex-Skinheads for about
>eight years now, and I have never had the slightest problem with them,
>precisely because I speak only the truth and they know it...
That is rich! What an insult to Skins.
> This is a good opportunity to address another...fantasy...
> On October 31st, 1996 someone vandalized my mail box in Carrboro...
That's Carrboro, NC, suburb of Chapel Hill, known as an "oasis for
queers." What an odd place for the Fuhrher to build his bunker.
>...with a National Alliance rune, and on December 1st, 1996 someone crept
>up on my apartment and defecated on the breezeway in front of my door. I
>almost stepped in it when I went out the door the next morning to go load pallets.
You've stepped in some sh*t all right.
> I would like to take the opportunity to set the record straight.
>I originally believed that Will W. Williams did these things, but on
>reflection I no longer believe that he is actually physically
>responsible,...
Sorry, Chubby! The cow's out of the barn.
>...I have changed my mind because these acts are out of character
>for Will in one key sense: he lacks the physical courage to risk a
>personal confrontation with me, and he always has.
Coming from a man, those would be fighting words. I gave you the
invitation publicly last summer to a rumble -- no typewriters -- in
front of plenty of witnesses. You never answered. Your mind is playing
tricks again with all this projection.
> This, Will, is the only thing remotely resembling a retraction of
>any kind that you will ever get from me, under any circumstances
>whatsoever, and if you believe otherwise you are deluding yourself...
Sure, Mr. Bluster, tell that to the judge.
> These National Alliance revenge fantasies are nothing more than ...
>blah! blah! blah!
>Harold Covington
>www.fraud.org
>The essential cowardice of these people and the insincerity of their
>threats is illustrated by the fact that in both cases, had they really
>desired to show their macho and attempt to assault me, they need only
>have waited until I came out of my apartment to get the mail, or for that
>matter they could have simply come and knocked on my door and made their
>attempt at that time. They did not do so. Instead, they scuttled off into
>the protective darkness.
Now there's a fantasy! What is it about Covington and his fascination
with excrement? Ugh!
CZAR
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 14:48:28 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I think it should be pointed out at this time that the various
>defamatory and libelous posts which the National Alliance has been
>leaving on these newsgroups have now degenerated from simple personal
>abuse and vilification into outright fantasy.
Well, I'll tell ya Winston..I don't think much of the NA, nor do I
think much about the NSWPP or whoever you are. Nor do I care what you
were wearing when you got served with what and who says so.
What concerns me is you are bombing this ng with your constant
bickering, not to mention several of your political views (some which
are of more concern to people in the UK than here in the US).
Please take it to an appropriate ng, as this is off topic.
CZAR
There are no 'x's in my e-mail address, I'm just trying
to preclude the usual deluge of unsolicted spam e-mail.
Cliff Swiger
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 14:48:28 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> People who read this newsgroup must at all times be aware of the
>National Alliance's practice of lying and making up "anecdotes" to fit
>their crazed attacks against me.
Unless I'm mistaken, Mr. Covington, it is you who is constantly
attacking others by generating some of the most disgusting and
sickening lies I've ever read. Like calling Ben Klassen a pederast and
a homosexual when you have absolutely NO EVIDENCE in support of such
sick-minded allegations.
>Nothing which originates from the
>National Alliance is worthy of any credibility any more.
Then why don't you come forward with one example where we are not
credible. I'd like to discuss it with you.
>In the National
>Alliance we are dealing with people who seem to have created their own
>little fantasy world ............
So you say. Here's my brass tacks: I base all of my political, social,
and economic conclusions on scientific evidence and logic. If that's
living in a fantasy world, then what course do you suggest I follow?
>
Cliff Swiger
National Alliance Member
Roger Hughes
In message <33a8bee8....@205.161.179.1> - csw...@labyrinth.net
(Cliff Swiger) writes:
:>You're sadly mistaken, friend. Harold Covington stands alone, as far
:>as I know, as an individual who claims to be an advocate of National
:>Socialism yet seeks to do nothing more than attempt (poorly) to
:>destroy it from the inside out. Actually there is an overwhelming
:>cohesiveness amongst National Socialist and pro-White organizations
:>around the globe. True, we are not centralized, and we do not all have
:>the same tactics, but we most certainly support one another's efforts.
:>
:>Cliff Swiger
:>National Alliance Member
:>http://www.natall.com
:>http://www.natvan.com
I might add that all sincere and responsible racialists condemn the
slanderous and childish behavior of Harold Covington. If anything, he's
the "Black Sheep" of the movement.
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
P. Bishop
NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> writes:
> This is a good opportunity to address another common National
> Alliance fantasy which appears frequently in their posts, and that is
> that they are going to "get" me, that is that some third party is going
> to miraculously appear on the scene and "work me over" or beat me up,
> something of the kind. This is the underlying thought behind the NA and
> Metzger's common practice of finding out where I live and then
> broadcasting my home address as widely as possible, in the hopes that
> someone, most likely blacks or leftists, will do what they themselves
> lack the manhood and courage to do personally.
>
This seems really bizarre. You claim to be a "Nazi," and then wonder why you
might have enemies.
I'm new to the internet, but if your name and home address was really spread
around, I sure haven't found it. I have, found your junk-mail in my e-mail box,
however.
>
> On October 31st, 1996 someone vandalized my mail box in Carrboro
> with a National Alliance rune, and on December 1st, 1996 someone crept
> up on my apartment and defecated on the breezeway in front of my door. I
> almost stepped in it when I went out the door the next morning to go get
> a paper; this is as close as the NA or Metzger have ever come to "getting
> me" in all the years they have been screaming threats and abuse.
>
Oct.31st is Holloween. What were you handing out to the little "ghosts and
goblins?" You didn't really go on the internet to accuse anyone of a Halloween
prank that would be a felony did you?
Do you live near a soup kitchen or homeless shelter? Many cities don't really
have public toilets for the homeless, so if someone used your doorway as an
outhouse, what does that have to do with this "NA?" The same thing happens to
many people, only they don't see it as some "plot" against them.
> I would like to take the opportunity to set the record straight.
> I originally believed that Will W. Williams did these things, but on
> reflection I no longer believe that he is actually physically
> responsible, although the question of incitement to others remains a
> valid one. I have changed my mind because these acts are out of character
> for Will in one key sense: he lacks the physical courage to risk a
> personal confrontation with me, and he always has.
OK-maybe I'm not playing with a full deck, and don't have all the facts, but if
you accuse someone of a felony, and a misdemanor, in public,(over the internet)
and have no evidence, how can you blame them for accusing you of libel, or
slander? (I'm not sure which word applies in cyberspace)
> This, Will, is the only thing remotely resembling a retraction of
> any kind that you will ever get from me, under any circumstances
> whatsoever, and if you believe otherwise you are deluding yourself very
> seriously. The only reason I am making even this statement is because I
> now believe I was in fact mistake in attributing to you two deeds which,
> however petty and cowardly, you lack the moral fibre to commit due to the
> personal risk it would entail.
>
I've never really met this "Will" guy.
But you are way out there in left field.
If he commited the crimes you accused him of, he should be dealt with according
to the laws of whatever state you live in. And if you falsely accuse him of
crimes, you should have to pay damages, according to the law in the state you
live in. You got a problem with that?
Where you really lose it, is where you attribute the fact that one may not have
engaged in criminal activity as a lack of courage.
Often, it takes real courage to ignore a few insults, and go ahead and take your
argument to a court, and a jury, and not take the law into one's own hands!
Your argument that one has more courage if they engage in criminal activity
rather than non-violent, legal means of resolving conflicts, is exactly what a
govt. "agent provocateur" would tell people.
Your stupid "Nazi Party" seems like some kind of fantasy game a fat, looser kid
would be playing with on his computer, if his parents don't keep an eye on him.
Regards,
PB
> These National Alliance revenge fantasies are nothing more than
> that, the fantasies of emotionally disturbed, frustrated middle aged men
> who are so desperate for some kind of meaning in their lives that they
> have latched on to this pathetic, idiotic Pierce cult.
>
> Winston Smith
> www.nswpp.org
NSWPP
TIMOTHY GUEGUEN wrote:
>
> > <5nv70b$7...@news.taranaki.ac.nz> <5o1too$2...@crack.usaor.net> <33A4ADCE...@ugabuga.mit.edu> <33A5B2...@earthlink.net>
<33A5B4...@earthlink.net>
> Organization: Saskatoon Free-Net
> Distribution:
>
> : I think it should be pointed out at this time that the various
> : defamatory and libelous posts which the National Alliance has been
> : leaving on these newsgroups have now degenerated from simple personal
> : abuse and vilification into outright fantasy.
> Now this is what I like to see. The various factions of white power
> stupidity fighting with each other instead of harrassing the rest of us.
> Keep up the good work guys!
>
> More importantly, this kind of thing shows why the kind of "whites only"
> homeland advocated by these fools would never work. Five minutes after
> it was established they would start stabbing each other in the back over
> ideology and threats to their own egotism.
>
> tim gueguen ad...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
There is just enough truth in this to hurt. I can only point out
that some of us are acutely aware of the quality control problems which
exist in our Movement and are doing all that we can to remedy the problem
using the only method presently available to us---ruthless exposure of
frauds like William Pierce and Tom Metzger.
At some point, I remain convinced that we will get our act
together, if only because conditions will force us to do so.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
Roger Hughes
In message <33A954...@earthlink.net> - NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net>
writes:
:> How does an art connoisseur recognize a master work by Rembrandt
:>or Monet? By the brush stroke, by the use of color, etc. but mostly from
:>long experience. Let's just say I know a National Alliance masterpiece
:>when I see one.
This is Covington's way of admitting he has only his own paranoid
delusions, but no actual proof.
Roger Hughes
In message <33A94...@earthlink.net> - NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net>
writes:
:> There is just enough truth in this to hurt. I can only point out
:>exist in our Movement and are doing all that we can to remedy the problem
:>using the only method presently available to us---ruthless exposure of
:>frauds like William Pierce and Tom Metzger.
Why do you continue with this garbage? You, Covington, are the one being
"exposed" as a "fraud", not Pierce or Metzger. Your credibility sinks
with each message you post.
If policing the ranks were really done with the racial nationalist
movement, then you'd be working for a living and keeping a low profile.
It has been my desire, and that of others, to preserve unity that has
prevented our saying anything about your continuous lying, and that's
the only reason you have been to permitted to post your crap unimpeded.
The party's over, Covington.
Roger Hughes
In message <33A952...@earthlink.net> - NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net>
writes:
:>
:>Reginald Higham Cornelius McTavish wrote:
:> [assorted drivel from Will Williams excised]
:>>
:>> Tavish replies:
:>> I agree with what you said about NSWPP being one person. This is all
:>> that I know about it. I see many that are NA but none as yet that have
:>> NSWPP in their sig.
:>this stupidity.
Blah, blah. Covington, why do keep playing this silly game - you have NO
"people." Everybody knows you're famous for concocting letters of praise
under a fake name and then mailing them to yourself. I suspect that's
the case with your alledged members who occasionally post to the usenet.
Of course, I realize that there may be a couple of stupid people out
there who may have been conned by your line of bull, and actually
allowed their names to be placed on your sucker list.
:>Shoveling National Alliance shit is unfortuately part of
:>my job description.
No, just shovelling regular old bullshit is your job.
:>You may have noticed that several NSWPP comrades did
:>in fact post briefly, but I asked them to refrain at least from getting
:>involved in the NA zoo.
Probably just Covington posting messages to himself from other accounts.
:>A number of them post to Usenet without
:>identifying themselves as Party associates.
Yes, yes, that anonymous multitude of Harold's supporters.
:>In keeping with their
:>delusional view that I am "all alone", the National Alliance will shriek
:>that I am "making this up", but then the National Alliance are fools who
:>do not recognize genuine discipline when they see it.
See, he anticipates me. He's so used to his lies being exposed that he
automatically attempts to cover those lies with even more lies.
:>This is one of the
:>many reasons that they have failed, and will continue to fail.
Failed? I can't believe that even you can you keep a straight face while
posting this kind of garbage? The National Alliance accomplishes more in
one month than you've done in your whole life!
Roger Hughes
In message <33A950...@earthlink.net> - NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net>
writes:
:>
:>Roger Hughes wrote:
:>>
:>> In message <33a8bee8....@205.161.179.1> - csw...@labyrinth.net
:>> (Cliff Swiger) writes:
:>> :>You're sadly mistaken, friend. Harold Covington stands alone,
:> This is an example of how completely delusional National Alliance
:>people are and how they absolutely refuse to consider even the
:>possibility that a substantial number of people in the Movement detest
:>them and detest their pallid, trembling guru up there in West
:>Virginia--which is in fact the case.
More bullshit. Covington, Dr. Pierce puts himself in danger by the mere
fact that he's now the pre-eminant White racialist in America. Whenever
the media looks for a spokesman on the racialist movement, they call Dr.
Pierce - not Harold Covington. (That eats at you more than you'll ever
admit.) By courageously taking up the racialist standard, he becomes
"Public Enemy Number One" to every liberal, Jewish fanatic, and
race-mixer. That's a big enemies list.
:>If I were alone I could not put out
:>a newsletter every week, there would be none of the literature
:>distributions which are driving Morris Dees and the ADL nuts in their
:>little "reports", and there would be no web site or Internet presence. I
:>could not function without the help of hundreds of people, any more than
:>Pierce could.
Nobody cares about your newsletter or web site.
:> Not if those efforts are fraudulent and aimed solely at the
:>personal enrichment of one Dr. William L. Pierce.
When is Dr. Pierce going to start enjoying all this money you claim he's
squrreling away in secret bank accounts? He's past 60 now. That doesn't
leave much time.
For crying out loud, he lives in an old mobile home on a remote rural
property and drives a 20 year-old car. Where's the money, Covington?
You're so full of shit that you could explode at any time.
Range
In article <33A85E...@earthlink.net>, ns...@earthlink.net says...
>
>Quinton wrote:
>>
>> NSWPP wrote:
>>
>> > Winston Smith [Harold Covington]
>>
>> If we are so inconsequential, why are you so worried about what we say?
>> Let the public decide for themselves what the truth is.
>
>
> THAT, young man, is exactly what I have been doing for the past
>six weeks. And you don't have a clue YET as to what I'm talking about, do
>you?
I'm certain many people don't.
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In article <33A952...@earthlink.net>, ns...@earthlink.net says...
>
>Reginald Higham Cornelius McTavish wrote:
> [assorted drivel from Will Williams excised]
>>
>> Tavish replies:
>> I agree with what you said about NSWPP being one person. This is all
>> that I know about it. I see many that are NA but none as yet that have
>> NSWPP in their sig.
>
> That is because I have directed my people not to get involved in
>this stupidity.
Ah. Your people have to be directed by you. Can't think for themselves.
We understand.
Roger Hughes
In message <33A8D4...@nbnet.nb.ca> - Keith Morrison
<lone...@nbnet.nb.ca> writes:
:>
:>TIMOTHY GUEGUEN wrote:
:>
:>> More importantly, this kind of thing shows why the kind of "whites only"
:>> homeland advocated by these fools would never work. Five minutes after
:>> it was established they would start stabbing each other in the back over
:>> ideology and threats to their own egotism.
:>First they get rid of everyone who looks different and then they
:>get rid of anyone who worships the wrong way and then anyone who
:>speaks funny is out and then you start eliminating people because
:>of the wrong length of hair and finally there's only one guy left.
:>
:>And he probably attacks the mirror.
Of course, that's what all you wacked-out, anti-racists believe. The
reality is that homogenious nations typically have but a small
proportion of the conflicts and chaos that multi-racial/multi-cultural
ones do. The undeniable fact is that when America was 90% White crime
was lower, standards higher, people's characters and attitudes were
better,......as a matter of fact just about everything was better back
when 90% of the people were White. The slide into the gutter has
coincided exactly with the racial darkening of the country. No sane
person can deny that. Now, I realize the lunatic liberals would disagree
and say that it's better now than ever: more homsexuality, more
non-whites, more Jews in power, more "holocaust" propaganda, more
"diversity", more White guilt, more PC government power, etc. ad
nauseum. In their perverted brains they can't figure out why anyone
would complain about all that!
Fortunately, there are still enough of us out here who have not
dengenerated to ground zero. And among those there are a number who will
do whatever is necessary to put an end to this subversive, immoral
idiocy, and round-up all these liberal kooks and put them on a spaceship
to mars.
Will Williams
"NSWPP" (Harold Covington) reveals innermost thoughts:
>Roger Hughes wrote:
>>Alpert of the Stern gang writes:
>> :>"NSWPP" (Harold Covington) lies::
>> :>>I think it should be pointed out at this time that the various
>> :>>defamatory and libelous posts which the National Alliance has been
>> :>
>> :>How pathetic, you White trash can't even get it together amongst
>> :>yourselves. Yet another of many reasons you will always fail.
>>
>> Aw, what are you so smug about? The Jews fight amongst themselves all
>> the time.
They sure do, Rog. Look at this from our Raleigh News & Observer just
yesterday (p.6A). It's from an AP article entitled: "Agreement near
on Judaism conversion dispute".
JERUSALEM -- A dispute among Jewish movements over control of
conversions to Judaism...
The disagreement threatens to split Israel and world Jewry...
The tension between the religious groups was evident last week , when
Ultra-Orthadox Jews pelted non-Orthodox men and women with excrement
and rocks...
Sounds like the sh*t-pelters may have been taught by one rabbi Myron
Silverstein.
>> Roger Hughes
>>
>> Boy, Roger sure does like butts. Talk about an anal
>fixation...who does he think he is? Benny Klassen?
>HC
Boy, Harold, you're crazy *and* sick. And nobody likes a liar. And
what's with this sh*t fetish you've got?
NSWPP
Roger Hughes wrote:
> Why do you continue with this garbage? You, Covington, are the one being
> "exposed" as a "fraud", not Pierce or Metzger. Your credibility sinks
> with each message you post.
That is not the message I am getting from many non-posting
people, NA members and others, who find the National Alliance posts
sickening and degrading the the racial cause.
I might add that owing to my activity on Usenet we have received
a number of subscriptions to RESISTANCE and hits to our website have
increased substantially.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
Jeffrey G. Brown
In article <33A954...@earthlink.net>, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> P. Bishop wrote:
> [...deletia...]
> > Do you live near a soup kitchen or homeless shelter? Many cities don't
really
> > have public toilets for the homeless, so if someone used your doorway as an
> > outhouse, what does that have to do with this "NA?"
>
> How does an art connoisseur recognize a master work by Rembrandt
> or Monet? By the brush stroke, by the use of color, etc. but mostly from
> long experience.
Well, if Poor Ol' Lyin' Harold wants to be known as a connoisseur of shit,
I'm certainly not going to argue with him. His Usenet output certainly
gives him the credentials for the job.
> Let's just say I know a National Alliance masterpiece when I see one.
Let's just say that this is another example of Poor Ol' Lyin' Harold's
peculiar belief that he doesn't need any actual evidence to accuse someone
of a misdeed. As before, we are apparently supposed to believe Poor Ol'
Lyin' Harold simply because he *knows* who did it. Whadda maroon...
NSWPP
Roger Hughes wrote:
> More bullshit. Covington, Dr. Pierce puts himself in danger by the mere
> fact that he's now the pre-eminant White racialist in America.
He is nothing of the kind. He is a weak, ineffectual,
failed academic whose reputation rests on a single book he wrote
twenty years ago, and which I suspect he bitterly regrets
writing.
Whenever
> the media looks for a spokesman on the racialist movement, they call Dr.
> Pierce -
He is flavor of the month and used to scare the liberal old
ladies with nazis under the bed, yes. For now. Next month it will be
someone else.
> Nobody cares about your newsletter or web site.
>
Actually, several thousand people care enough about NSNet to
subscribe and many hundreds care enough to pay $30 to subscribe to the
mail newsletter, and those numbers are growing.
> When is Dr. Pierce going to start enjoying all this money you claim he's
> squrreling away in secret bank accounts?
Well, true, it does look like he's going to be spending some
time in courtrooms because people keep taking him up on the
incitements to violence he makes.
He's past 60 now. That doesn't
> leave much time.
> Hopefully, no.
> For crying out loud, he lives in an old mobile home on a remote rural
> property and drives a 20 year-old car. Where's the money, Covington?
>
That is a VERY good question. According to Mr. Williams, Pierce
has a $2,000,000 minimum guaranteed royalty contract with Lyle Stuart and
185,000 copies of the Stuart Turner Diaries have been sold thus far.
Where IS all that money going?
Roger, rant and rave and gibber all you want, but the FACT is
that the NSWPP is growing and the NA is on the downslide, largely because
of the visible, public behavior of Dr. Pierce and of people like Will
Williams and yourself.
Scream, bang your heads on the wall, slit your wrists, jump up
and down and shit snowballs, do whatever you want on Usenet---this
doesn't change the truth. It's you people who are the solipsists, my
friend. The National Socialist White People's Party is going to first
catch the NA up, then surpass them---and it's going to happen soon. I
don't just sit here playing with you jerks on Usenet, you know---we've
got something cooking which will close the gap VERY substantially within
the next couple of months.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
Roger Hughes
In message <33A9A0...@earthlink.net> - NSWPP
<ns...@earthlink.net>Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:10:21 -0700 writes:
:>
:>Roger Hughes wrote:
:> [Raving gibberish deleted]
:>
:> Ho, hum.
:>
:> A world of his own, people. A world of his own.
Another patented, no-content Covington response. Now that will really
put one to sleep.
Roger Hughes
In message <33A99C...@earthlink.net> - NSWPP:>> Why do you continue with this garbage? You, Covington, are the one being
:>> "exposed" as a "fraud", not Pierce or Metzger. Your credibility sinks
:>> with each message you post.
:>
:> That is not the message I am getting from many non-posting
:>people, NA members and others, who find the National Alliance posts
:>sickening and degrading the the racial cause.
Likewise, Covington, I have received over 25 emails from disgruntled
NSWPP members who are disgusted with your lies and are ready to join the
National Alliance. Well, looks like just about your entire membership
just bolted.
:> I might add that owing to my activity on Usenet we have received
:>a number of subscriptions to RESISTANCE and hits to our website have
:>increased substantially.
What do you expect? With the exposure of your lies becoming more widely
know, people are curious as to what kind of nut you really are. That's
no mystery.
Roger Hughes
In message <33A99F...@earthlink.net> - NSWPP:> [much hysterical drivel, which I was going to reply to, but which
:>on reflection doesn't require any reply. The man is living in a world of
:>his own.]
A rather pathetic way of providing answers, isn't it?
I hope everyone notices that Covington NEVER responds with any facts to
back-up his wild claims. About the best we can expect from him might be
a forged email (probably written by Covington himself) containing
several bizarre and unsubstantiated accusations.
Now that his M.O. is so well known, he doesn't even bother with that!
Quinton
P. Bishop wrote:
> > OK-maybe I'm not playing with a full deck, and don't have all the facts,
NSWPP responded:
> Those are distinct possibilities.
Here "nswpp" or Harry Covington illustrates how, when someone doubts
what he says is true, the person is immediately labeled as a dimwit.
P. Bishop wrote:
> how can you blame them for accusing you of libel, or
> slander? (I'm not sure which word applies in cyberspace)
NSWPP responded:
> I have never libeled anyone, at any time, on any issue.
Here "nswpp" or Harold Covington illustrates how, unfamiliar he is with
the word libel.
NSWPP wrote:
> But you are way out there in left field.
Here "nswpp" or Harry Covington illustrates how, when someone doubts
what he says is true, the person is immediately labeled as a dimwit.
Quinton
NSWPP wrote:
> This is an example of how completely delusional National Alliance
> people are and how they absolutely refuse to consider even the
> possibility that a substantial number of people in the Movement detest
> them and detest their pallid, trembling guru up there in West
You posted it, now you prove it! Tell me who the "substantial number of
people in the Movement" are and where you found it out. Now's your
chance to prove that you are not a liar uncle Harold, prove what you say
is true!
> --which is in fact the case.
Like I said ... if it is fact, present the facts.
> If I were alone I could not put out a newsletter every week
WHAT?! Send us one of your newsletters. I'm sure none of us have seen
it to verify its quality. Not to mention whether it could have been
made by you and you alone. Help us out here uncle Harold, tell us the
facts.
> there would be none of the literature distributions which are driving Morris Dees and > the ADL nuts in their little "reports",
It doesn't take long to distribute flyers at your local seven eleven!
Where are these bulletins? How can I get my hands on one?
> and there would be no web site or Internet presence
I can create a web page like yours in about one hour, it's not very
hard.
> I could not function without the help of hundreds of people, any more than
> Pierce could.
Now the "nswpp" has hundreds of members? That's not what you said in an
earlier post comparing the NA to the "nswpp."
Quinton
Range wrote:
>
> In article <33A85E...@earthlink.net>, ns...@earthlink.net says...
> >
> >Quinton wrote:
> >>
> >> NSWPP wrote:
> >>
> >> > Winston Smith [Harold Covington]
> >>
> >> If we are so inconsequential, why are you so worried about what we say?
> >> Let the public decide for themselves what the truth is.
> >
> >
> > THAT, young man, is exactly what I have been doing for the past
> >six weeks. And you don't have a clue YET as to what I'm talking about, do
> >you?
>
> I'm certain many people don't.
I second that notion. Although we really know what uncle Harold is up
to, I'm sure deep inside he knows as well.
Get the facts. Decide for yourself.
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HM Murdock
> P. Bishop wrote:
>
> > Oct.31st is Holloween.
>
> I noted the ironic coincidence of the date, yes.
>
Your mailbox is vandalized on Halloween. What did you have to offer the
"trick or treaters? But if someone commits a childish prank, that would be
a felonly if an adult did it, it's of course the National Alliance.
>
As for the act of someone defecating on you driveway or porch-
> > Do you live near a soup kitchen or homeless shelter? Many cities don't
really
> > have public toilets for the homeless, so if someone used your doorway as an
> > outhouse, what does that have to do with this "NA?"
>
A fair question, which you haven't answered!
> How does an art connoisseur recognize a master work by Rembrandt
> or Monet? By the brush stroke, by the use of color, etc. but mostly from
> long experience. Let's just say I know a National Alliance masterpiece
> when I see one. You have to understand that I have been putting up with
> this man and his deranged behavior for eight years now; this lawsuit
> business is simply one more incident and it will continue until he
> finally loses it and is suitably confined in either prison or a mental
> institution.
Back to the issue. You accuse someone of taking a dump on your porch. How
do you know it was an NA member, and not a Basset Hound, or a Beagle, or
maybe just a mixed breed? By the smell, the taste? You may have some real
problems!
> > OK-maybe I'm not playing with a full deck, and don't have all the facts,
>
> Those are distinct possibilities.
What an impolite thing to say to someone who is new to the internet!
> >but if
> > you accuse someone of a felony, and a misdemanor, in public,(over the
internet)
> > and have no evidence,
Well, P. Bishop did mean to say that you may be sued for libel/slander
depending on which applies to the internet in whatever state or country the
suit is filed.
> But I do. Mr. Williams inadvertently gave me the name the other
> day of the man who was on my property and to a 99% degree of certainly
> vandalized the mailbox, and I have every confidence that eventually the
> poopmeister's identity will become known as well. You see, there is one
> thing that Will Williams is utterly incapable of doing---he CANNOT KEEP
> HIS MOUTH SHUT. He probably has at least some vague understanding that he
> is hurting his own case and probably defying his attorney's instructions
> by his continuous ranting and gibbering on Usenet, but he CANNOT keep
> quiet. He simply doesn't have the self-discipline.
>
Well, maybe he will confirm or deny your story.
> how can you blame them for accusing you of libel, or
> > slander? (I'm not sure which word applies in cyberspace)
>
> I have never libeled anyone, at any time, on any issue.
>
I understand that may be for a jury to decide.
> Will has demonstrated a remarkable ability immunity from
> prosecution in the past.
>
Prosecution for what? Do you have any evidence?
> And if you falsely accuse him of
> > crimes, you should have to pay damages, according to the law in the
state you
> > live in. You got a problem with that?
>
> The operative word there is "falsely".
> [remainder of drivel snipped]
The "operative word" might be decided by a jury in a court of law. Isn't
that the way it should be?
You call it cowardly for one to take his disputes with you into court, and
not engaged in stupid, illegal, violent activity.
Isn't this just what an "agent provocateur" would do ?
Regards,
HM
NSWPP
Roger Hughes wrote:
Covington, I have received over 25 emails from disgruntled
> NSWPP members who are disgusted with your lies and are ready to join the
> National Alliance. Well, looks like just about your entire membership
> just bolted.
Now, Roger, you and I know perfectly well that you have received
no such e-mails. Not one.
For one thing, the NSWPP does not have "members" as such. We are
a collection of White people who are entirely free to support whomever we
wish. You could therefore hardly have received even one e-mail from an
NSWPP "member", much less 25. No one is a "member", not even me.
In fact, Roger, you received no such e-mails at all, whereas I
have received a number of e-mails from disgusted National Alliance
members who, while not willing necessarily to "join" the NSWPP, are
nonetheless very seriously re-thinking their relationship with the NA in
view of what they have seen on these newsgroups over the past few weeks
from yourself, Little Willie, Quinton, et. al.
That is the truth, and I think in one corner of your mind you
are aware of it. But basically, Roger, you are living in a little world
of your own, and when events do not support your belief system you make
up "facts" which do not exist.
How sad.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
P.S. Thanks for eliminating that really silly butt from your
signature. It was MILDLY funny, maybe, ONCE. Over and over again it's
just childish.
WS
NSWPP
Quinton wrote:
[gibberish deleted]
"Illegitimi non Carborundem"
NSWPP
Roger Hughes wrote:
[rambling tirade excised]
"Illegitimi non Carborundem"
Brian Smith
NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> What is the freaking deal?
> The freaking deal, Beavis, is that I find it convenient to let
>the members of the National Alliance let it all hang out, and I have
>arranged for certain of the more adult and responsible members of the NA
Like who, you lying dungheap? NA members know you're a total sham, a
washed-out bum. We already know what a liar you are, Covington. Nice
try, though.
>either to lurk on these newsgroups or I have forwarded them some of the
>more hysterical and deranged posts, especially those from Wee Willie
>Wonka as well as a few of Quinton's. These are having the desired effect,
In your mind, perhaps..!
>but at some point in time in the forseeable future the law of diminishing
>returns will set in and I will cheerfully dump Usenet.
Every time you post Covington, you take a dump on the Usenet!
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"NSWPP" (Defendant Bluster) boasts:
>Roger Hughes wrote:
>> Nobody cares about your newsletter or web site.
>>
> Actually, several thousand people care enough about NSNet to
>subscribe and many hundreds care enough to pay $30 to subscribe to the
>mail newsletter, and those numbers are growing.
Let's see, if Wierd Harold is not lying and blustering as usual:
one hundred X $30 = $3,000
"many hundreds," let's say 10, or, ...1,000 X $30 = $30,000
Wow! What are all his people going to think when I own Harold
Covington's mail newsletter? His slogan, I AM THE "NSWPP", will take
on a whole new dimension then. Now, that is irony!
And the hypocrite doth say *I* talk too much...
Same thing happened back in '89 when, after I'd exposed HC as a liar,
hypocrite and fraud, his top man sent me Harold's entire phoney
non-NS, Xtian Identity, "Confederate National Congress" mailing list
with the memo: "Here, Will, you know what to do with this." Tell em
about that one, Harold. Most readers can probably tell Mr. Bluster is
still a little pissed about that. His "CNC" was out of business in a
week. It'll just take me a little longer this time since someone has
bought him much more expensive smear toys.
Would anybody like to hear that story? I'll put you in touch with
Harold's old friend, Ron D., now a trusted NA member. Or maybe I'll
put Ron on-line and he can tell you himself. Harold always has said
that I stole that mailing list from his desk drawer. Harold Covington
has done more for the thickening my my hide to criticism than anyone
else. For that I must thank you, Harold. It has served me well and has
made me stronger..
Will W. Williams, Plaintiff