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Kellye Tunks

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Aug 3, 2024, 5:40:28 PM8/3/24

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@Himeko @Melchior:Not abandoned. Quite the contrary, the version of Defraggler that is used as part of the CCleaner Cloud business product gets updated on a fairly regular basis. Plan was to fold those changes back into the consumer desktop product at the end of last year - but the release freeze we had bumped out the timeline. With 100x the users, CCleaner is always going to get more attention that Defraggler - but we're still looking to get a Defraggler update out later this year.

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Just out of curiosity, what update are you looking for? What feature are you missing? Defraggler works fine for me unless I am overlooking something. Also, why do you run it every day? Modern HDDs shouldn't need that unless you are running a FAT file system. Running every day is probably putting unnecessary strain on your drive.

Wear levelling is not seen by the operating system, NTFS, or any defragging software. NTFS, or FAT, allocates a cluster number to a file which remains unchanged for the life of the file, unless some user/client action (such as a defrag) occurs. Defraggers get their fragmentation information from the MFT, not from the disk, i.e. how many datarun entries there are in the MFT record for a file. What physical pages on an SSD are actually allocated is anyone's guess.

Defraggler is a freemium defragmentation utility developed by Piriform Software, which can defragment individual files or groups of files on computer memory systems. Defraggler runs on Microsoft Windows; it has support for all versions since Windows XP. It includes support for both IA-32 and x64 versions of these operating systems.[1]

Defraggler can defragment individual files, groups of files (in a folder) or an entire disk partition, either by the user's command or automatically on a schedule. It supports FAT32, NTFS, and exFAT.[4] It can also be installed as a portable application on a USB flash drive. Defragmentation of RAID disks is also supported, although no details are supplied.[5]

When running Defraggler, it shows all of my drives as being SSD and warns me that I could do harm by defragging my drives. Why are my conventional hard drives (Western Digital and Seagate) being identified as SSD drives?

So the bottom line - experienced by many of us - is that both Speccy and Defraggler are erroneously recognizing conventional hard drives as SSD drives. Sounds like a major bug here - especially when windows recognizes them all properly.

All of their software has issues detecting the disk type correctly, even CCleaner has the issue. At least with CCleaner it's regularly updated so when updating it that will sometimes mysteriously fix the issue until it happens again with another version.

Windows itself can get the detection of disks incorrect, and it's sometimes down to how they're formatted as in the file system - for example I've no issue formatting a USB Flash Drive (32GB) and tricking Windows 10 into thinking it's a Hard Disk Drive.

Spyware is software that aims to gather information about a person or organization without their knowledge, that may send such information to another entity without the consumer's consent, or that asserts control over a device without the consumer's knowledge.[1]

"Spyware" is mostly classified into four types: adware, system monitors, tracking cookies, and trojans;[2] examples of other notorious types include digital rights management capabilities that "phone home", keyloggers, rootkits, and web beacons.

Spyware is mostly used for the purposes of tracking and storing Internet users' movements on the Web and serving up pop-up ads to Internet users. Whenever spyware is used for malicious purposes, its presence is typically hidden from the user and can be difficult to detect. Some spyware, such as keyloggers, may be installed by the owner of a shared, corporate, or public computer intentionally in order to monitor users.

Not that I would expect any answers coming from people here who have 8,734 / 5,438 / and 515 posts, you are either payed by Piriform/Avast, or you're so emotionally invested with this software where you've developed Stockholm Syndrome where you treat any kind of negative comment towards your baby that you feel the need to downplay it, defend it, or call people trolls.

@Special
just so you know, all members (Moderators included) on this forum volunteer their time freely.
apart from the Admin team, who rarely contribute in everyday posts, no members have a loyalty to, or are on the payroll of, Piriform.

the number of posts is simply an indication of how long we have been doing this for. nothing more than that should be read into it.
it is a friendly, community based forum that is mainly used to address problems with Piriform products but is also used (not so much these days) to discuss any topic someone cares to post about.
a quick search through other threads and you'll discover that even the Moderators often criticise Piriform and their products.

Nobody on the mod team is employed by Piriform/Avast, and who else is going to more likely answer tons of posts on a user forum that would be other volunteer users because the people who make the software surely don't have time since they've got to fix the software they've obviously made buggy as hell.

The Terms of Use & Privacy Statement outline exactly what data is gathered & how it is to be used. And in the Settings we have control over what data is to be collected on a continual basis. So how is that considered to be Spyware? To me it appears that I'm downloading this software WITH full knowledge of what info is being collected, stored and used about me. At any time I can request the information that Piriform/Avast as stored AND formally request they delete all the personal data collected. To me it sounds like the exact opposite of what Spyware does.

While allot of people have issues with different things in CCleaner from installation issues, crashing, etc., I've personally not encountered any issues using CCleaner Portable v5.63.7540 (most current version as of writing this) - although I consider myself very lucking compared to the issues it's giving other people who have taken the time to report bugs.

Hi, I have been running Defraggler version 2.21, and wanted to update to the new version 2.22, so I bought it. I uninstalled version 2.21 restarted my PC & installed version 2.22. The moment I activated it & it opened it detected my HDD drive as SDD, & the program just locked up. windows had to close it. So I uninstalled it restarted my PC several times & reinstalled it, same thing, it detected my HDD drives as SSD, & again the program locked up. I then uninstalled it again and put my old version back in, reactivated it, & it works fine, detected my drives as HDD. I am running windows 7 professional 64 bit. service pack 1, on a Acer Desktop. Does anyone have this same problem, or does anyone know a fix, as I have sent Piriform 4 emails & not heard anything back. Maybe I will have to file a claim to get a refund, as I sure can not run the new version 2.22 DOES ANYONE HAVE THIS SAME PROBLEM ?? OR A FIX ????????

Windows defragger doesn't see things that defraggler does, for instance locked system files and hybernate and (I think) system restore points. I believe, though haven't used defraggler in a while, you can disinclude some of these in defraggler's settings.

I am having the same problem as D J and Robertlaw. I have been a long-time user of Defraggler Pro, and the application has run without incident for years. This upgrade spooked me from the beginning when it claimed that my WDC HDD is a SSD, which it most definitely is not. I have not run the app since the upgrade, and based on the comments above, I'm glad I didn't.

- I had some problems with a Hitachi Travelstar drive in the past. The documentation for that HD I pulled up from the interent told me that it contained a 512 byte information string. That documentation also told me what the meaning was of each byte & bit that was stored in that information string.

Alas, I too am having this same issue and from reading this thread, it seems there is no solution even in the works as not one soul from Piriform has bothered to make an appearance to offer even platitudes. Initially, I thought maybe it was just my version of Windows as is ofttimes the case. I am running Windows 10 Enterprise version 10.0.18362 Build 18362, not a common release. Then I started looking for answers and solutions online and found this to be a long time issue with MANY across multiple forums. I am so very disappointed, in myself mostly for not reading up on the latest about the Piriform family of products before nose-diving into buying the whole package. I was an avid fan and promoter of all things Piriform for years, about 10 years or so ago when they were the best around, then I caught the linux bug and never looked back. It is due only to my new job as CTO that I even came back to Windohs. Live and learn. Wonder if I can get a refund....