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Jes - Unless Madison has any objections, we'll call this a wrap - could you put it into the Twitter feed and I'll do a facebook announcement from work I'll look for some music to put behind the VO tonight from Incompetec.com

K

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From: Kirok of L'Stok <kirok.li...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels
To: Madison Bruffy <mdbr...@suddenlink.net>

What about this? I can change things for a second version tomorrow -http://issuu.com/trekunited/docs/a_tale_of_two_captains-_part_1

click to enlarge it and listen to the audio - you can hear it seperately at http://soundcloud.com/kirok/novatrek-05-promo-1c

I'm off to bed! Goodnight

K

On 23/01/2012 9:06 PM, Madison Bruffy wrote:

It's in your mailbox.

Madison

----- Original Message -----

From: Kirok of L'Stok

To: Madison Bruffy

Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 4:30 AM

Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

Madison, you're going to have to send the YouSendIt link to my home email - I can't download things on my work email and I didn't realise that it hadn't gone to the group.

Alan

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Madison Bruffy <mdbr...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

You should have the link by now. Just ignore the message with it- I don't know where all the gibberish in it came from- I didn't type it.

Madison
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:36 PM

Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

No problem. It's on it's way.

Madison
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anderton, Alan" <Alan.A...@railcorp.nsw.gov.au>
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

Madison -
Apologies for asking you to double up on this, but could you send this again? The YouSendIt links only last a week I think and It'll save me having to search through a tone of correspondence to find the old link. If you can do this for me it will help me get this up on Issuu tonight.

Cheers

Alan Anderton
Service Search Coordinator
Metropolitan Area
Ph:(02) 9752 8680

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, 20 January 2012 9:03 PM
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

Yes, I sent you a Yousendit link last week.
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

I thought I answered this a few minutes ago but its not showing up. We
can do a release for you on Monday if you want: did you send me the
file?

K

On 1/20/12, Madison Bruffy <mdbr...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

So I'm assuming Nova Trek 5: A Tale of Two Captains: Part1, won't be
posted
till after HFO2 is released?
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

Sorry, I always tend to have a minor melt-down after the Twelve Days
of Christmas but I'm back in the harness again and this is the status
report I promised...

Status report:

Cover: Ongoing: I have the graphic, just need to add the title and
dateline, which means it is one of the last things to complete.

Inside cover: PROBLEM - I wasn't happy with the last one. We've had no
contact or feedback from any of the other organisations we featured so
I think we should focus on TU and TU Publishing

Title Page, Masthead, Credits - Ongoing: No problem here, using the
template from last time and substituting this month's info

Editorial: Ongoing: No Problems - I'm never short of words! Maybe about
SOPA?

Body
- I need to complete formatting all the articles before chain-linking
them together.

- The following are pretty much ok...
Altered Lives-2, Broken Deals
Beer, Broads and Brotherhood
The Captain's Journey
Freak School-2, Report card
Those Who Remain
Whoso Pulleth...
Reflections

- The following need formatting but shouldn't be a problem...
Secrets in Unanswered Questions
Lesson in Logic
Filling In The Blanks

- The following needs a Title Graphic and so far I have drawn a blank
on DevianArt (nor can I see anything elsewhere)
Call of Duty - Bones/Spock piece

...as for the back matter...

Kirok's Workshop - Only if I have time

Inside Back cover: This is offered to Tamarlane, if he doesn't take it
up I'll offer it to someone else for a colour spread

Back cover: Again, no graphic but we have no shortage of artists with
colour graphics to show off

I'm off sick today - some tests to do - So I've got some time to catch
up.

Cheers

K

On 1/20/12, Madison Bruffy <mdbr...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

Yeah, it's gotten kindof quiet.

Madison
----- Original Message -----
From: Janet Gershen-Siegel
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

W00t that's fantastic! I don't know what's happening - I'm getting
the
same amount of info that you are.

Sincerely,

Janet

From: Madison Bruffy <mdbr...@suddenlink.net>
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

By the way, "Assignment: Yesterday" just hit 800!
----- Original Message -----
From: Madison Bruffy
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

Anybody out there?
----- Original Message -----
From: Anderton, Alan
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

I'll get back to you tonight with a status report, bit busy
today.
From memory, the main sticking point is a few are still missing
graphics,

eg
the Spock/McCoy story

Alan Anderton
Service Search Coordinator
Metropolitan Area
Ph:(02) 9752 8680

From: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Madison
Bruffy
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012 7:04 AM
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

Haven't heard anything about anything for awhile and I was just
wondering where things stand.

Madison
----- Original Message -----
From: Janet Gershen-Siegel
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

http://twelvedays2011.blogspot.com/

Good night! :)

Sincerely,

Janet

From: Madison Bruffy <mdbr...@suddenlink.net>
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

Can you send me another link to the blog? O've accidently
deleted
the one Ki'rok posted.
----- Original Message -----
From: Janet Gershen-Siegel
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

I've got plenty! Right now I'm waiting on whatever anyone can
give
me for one-paragraph summaries, but otherwise I am set. I don't want it
to
just be a bunch of links. I'm also waiting to see if anyone objects,
but
I
don't think they will - they know the ratings they have put on their
stories
and have to understand that it will evoke these connotations. Plus
they'll
get some positive press.

Sincerely,

Janet

From: Madison Bruffy <mdbr...@suddenlink.net>
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic novels

Here's the links for the 2 Star Trek Dreadnaught books:

http://issuu.com/candicegreene/docs/star_trek_dreadnaught_01/1

http://issuu.com/candicegreene/docs/star_trek_dreadnaught_issue_2/1

These are the only 2 Dreadnaught issues I'm aware of.
They're
the
only ones she posted in our DA group.

Madison
----- Original Message -----
From: Janet Gershen-Siegel
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic
novels

Thanks! I got all of these - my office blocks yahoo mail.
Am
looking as fast as I can.

Sincerely,

Janet

From: Madison Bruffy <mdbr...@suddenlink.net>
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic
novels

I sent Janet each link as she posted them, then I sent her
one
more post with all the links listed. Here they are again:

http://issuu.com/candicegreene/docs/star_trek_crusader_the_deception#download

http://issuu.com/candicegreene/docs/star_trek_crusader_of_friends__or_foes#download

http://issuu.com/candicegreene/docs/star_trek_crusader_wrigley_pleasure_planet#download

http://issuu.com/candicegreene/docs/star_trek_crusader_the_talosian_experiments/1

I'm watching as she posts the Dreadnaught series. So far
she's
only posted the first issue. I thought I'd wait till she had them all
posted
before I sent those.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kirok of L'Stok
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics, Graphic
novels

i didn't know that - I thought they were only on the
comics
forum - Have you got a link? I've always meant to suggest Issuu to her
but
I've never had any contact with her

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Madison Bruffy
<mdbr...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

None of my replies to Janet about Candics Greene's
books
have circled back around to me. Have either of you received them? I
told
her
about Issu- sent her a link for one of books. She's in the process of
posting her books there- she's already got the Crusader series up and
she's
starting to post the Dreadnaught series.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kirok of L'Stok
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics,
Graphic
novels

Yes, animations are to be included on the fan film
day.
Or should I have animation seperate as I have in the past and drop
podcasts?
There's actually very little of interest in Podcasts.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Madison Bruffy
<mdbr...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

To change subjects for a moment. Have you mention
Star
Trek: Aurora anywhere lately? You do know Tim finished it,right?

http://www.auroratrek.com/episodes.html

Madison
----- Original Message -----
From: Kirok of L'Stok
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics,
Graphic
novels

I'll check those links, thanks, Madison (see this
is
where your detailed knowledge comes in!). The problem I found on dA was
that
the really good artists were professionals who were showing off their
drafts, etc for promotional purposes. I've no problem with this but it
doesn't fit with what we are doing to add professional work in at this
point
(I usually add a gratuitous link to the licenced companies, IDW, Pocket
Book)

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Madison Bruffy
<mdbr...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

that'll work. But if you look at places like
DA-
Comic Artists United, or Comics Corner, or Deviantart Comics,Most of
the
good artwork is on Guy's level- in some cases even on level with stuff
being
put out by DC and Marvel.
You've set high levels of quality on the
projects
you're dealing with. You need to maintain that level all across the
board

or
end up losing quality in the eyes of visitora and readers just by
assosiation.

Madison
----- Original Message -----
From: Kirok of L'Stok
To: trek-twelve-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 -
Comics,
Graphic novels

Wow! That's a really high benchmark for the
artwork! I've never read much manga other than some of the kid's
Yu-Gi-Oh!
years ago but to my eye his work is on a par with professional
standards.
I'd like to encourage them but most of their work is sort of on the
same
level as simple, throwaway fan fic - very little of it has any real
storyline.

I might mention them as a general movement in
the
intro text

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Madison
Bruffy
<mdbr...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=Trek%20Comics&order=9&offset=48#/dpkcvo

I think- if it were up to me, I'd pass on
this.
For hand drawn 'Trek, I'd use Guy Davis' Tamerlane as the watermark. It
would have to be at least that good.

Madison
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirok
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Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 6:22 PM
Subject: Twelve trek Days, Day 7 - Comics,
Graphic novels

Madison - Going to rely heavily on you
for
finding links for me for
this. Got your other suggestions -

[Snip]
PDSmith has an on-going series he's been
doing
called "Tales of the
Fleet"
Here's the links to two of the issues:
"Caves of Duality"-
http://pdsmith.deviantart.com/#/d3f5wyt

"Species 571"-
http://pdsmith.deviantart.com/#/d3f5xe1

I've read both and they're okay for
"Family
viewing". He's release
another one called "Thirty Minutes" but
it
has
some lesbian aspects
that might not go over well. Nothing
blatant,
but strongly suggested:
http://pdsmith.deviantart.com/#/d4k8x06

deciever2000 also has Three graphic
novels,
but I can't read them
because I don't read German- at least it
looks
like German to me. The
series title is "Star Trek: Explorer"
Issue

1:

http://startrekartistsunite.deviantart.com/gallery/25700740#/d3aglgy

Issue 2:

http://startrekartistsunite.deviantart.com/gallery/25700740#/d3iidj5

Issue 3:

http://startrekartistsunite.deviantart.com/gallery/25700740#/d4hbze8

The problem is - at both Tamerlane and
Deviant
art- that most of the
artists are posting their stories a page
at

a
time instead of as a
completed book Like PDSmith,
deciever2000
and
I do.

Then of course there are CandelaGreene's
books
which are usually more
sexually oriented than most.
[EndSnip]

As discussed Candela Greene's comics can
go

in
the Adult Trek section,
I'll have a look at "Thirty Minutes" but
as
long as there is nothing
that puts into a higher rating, I'm not
averse
to gay plotlines. A
large percentage of Trek fandom has
"alternative lifestyles" so
ignoring it is not acceptable in this
day-and-age.

I like the graphics on the German one -
pity
we can't get an English
translation

- What do you think of the deviantArt
comics
like this?

http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=Trek%20Comics&order=9&offset=48#/dpkcvo
...hand-drawn (it gets *much* worse than
this!), usually anime style
(I'm not against that) heavily
teenybopper
slash - and THAT is what i
don't like: the almost total lack of
storyline
in most of them. For
the most part they are just an excuse for
drawing daydreams and cutesy
chibis (they can be ok in small
quantities).
I'd give them a passing
mention - unless there are some you think
deserve to be encouraged?

- Might go through my previous year's
entries
and see what has been in
production this year and what has gone
into
hiatus.

K

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Janet Gershen-Siegel

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I just put out a tweet that we're almost ready to publish. That way we're covered in case there's an unforeseen delay.

Sincerely,

Janet

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