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awol

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Apr 5, 2011, 9:34:55 PM4/5/11
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Bravo. I see TS is on its way toward getting the wider audience it
deserves.

Some requests:

1.
I would like the option of pasting non-hierarchically. This means that
if I cut or copy some nested cells, that therefore contain leading
spaces, normally TS will paste them as nested cells. I want the option
to paste them as plain text in the body of the cell rather than
creating "nest grids." Otherwise I must strip the leading spaces
before pasting into TS.

Or does it already exist? You removed some functionality like this
before my time and said that it was possible to cut/copy-paste
manually to do it, but I can't see how to paste without recreating a
hierarchy unless I do it one cell at a time or manually remove the
leading spaces in each cell to be pasted.

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2.
I hope you can soon add some more standard behavior:

2a.
"Search" (Ctrl+f):
That:
Ctrl+f selects any existing text already present in the Search box;
if the cursor is there and the text not selected, that Ctrl+a would
select that text;
Home and End work in the Search box;

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2b.
Ctrl+y "Redo".

Allen

JennyB

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Apr 6, 2011, 5:41:30 PM4/6/11
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Hurrah for Shift-Delete and friends - just the thing for left-handed mousers like me!

I'm working on a sheet now that involves removing a lot of parents, and I notice that when the inserted cell is Cut, the focus doesn't go anywhere. Shouldn't it return to the former parent, so that the whole sequence becomes a simple cut-delete-paste without having to touch the mouse?

Any takers for Shift-Return to split a paragraph of text between two cells? 

awol

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Apr 7, 2011, 1:24:11 PM4/7/11
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More feedback:

Icon usability:
I like that a cell containing an icon but no text can be pasted
without destroying existing content in the target cell.
I want to use icons to label different classes of entries, e.g. in a
journal, to label entries as "Urgent," "Archive," etc., and I may want
to change the icon while keeping the text constant. I can set up a
little grid with an icon in each cell, an icon corral, and then paste
the icon of my choice into a cell with content without destroying that
existing content, other than a possibly preexisting icon.

Features I'd like to see:
FreePlane allows user-settable time for delayed selection by
mouseover. This means that I can change the focus by mousing without
clicking. By adjusting the delay to my speed of work, I avoid
inadvertent selections. Those clicks add up, and works goes more
quickly and intuitively without them.

Allen

awol

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Apr 7, 2011, 11:32:22 PM4/7/11
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Additional keyboard navigation request:

Using the keyboard to navigate is somewhat limited. I would like to
have the option of going down into, and up out of, a nested grid.
Maybe Alt+arrow?

Wouter van Oortmerssen

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Apr 8, 2011, 7:50:36 PM4/8/11
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On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:34 PM, awol <awo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bravo. I see TS is on its way toward getting the wider audience it
> deserves.

Let's hope so :)

> 1.
> I would like the option of pasting non-hierarchically. This means that
> if I cut or copy some nested cells, that therefore contain leading
> spaces, normally TS will paste them as nested cells. I want the option
> to paste them as plain text in the body of the cell rather than
> creating "nest grids." Otherwise I must strip the leading spaces
> before pasting into TS.

You're right, you can't do this right now. Though if you were able to,
you wouldn't preserve that formatting anyway, i.e. it be all one
continuous text. Is that what you want?

TreeSheets was never meant for having longer formatted text inside a cell.

> Or does it already exist? You removed some functionality like this
> before my time and said that it was possible to cut/copy-paste
> manually to do it, but I can't see how to paste without recreating a
> hierarchy unless I do it one cell at a time or manually remove the
> leading spaces in each cell to be pasted.

That was probably something else.

> 2a.
> "Search" (Ctrl+f):
> That:
>  Ctrl+f selects any existing text already present in the Search box;
>  if the cursor is there and the text not selected, that Ctrl+a would
> select that text;
>  Home and End work in the Search box;

I'll see if I can make those work.

> 2b.
> Ctrl+y "Redo".

A popular request, and a big one. This will definitely have to wait
until the release after.

Wouter

Wouter van Oortmerssen

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Apr 8, 2011, 7:53:37 PM4/8/11
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On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:41 PM, JennyB <jenny...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hurrah for Shift-Delete and friends - just the thing for left-handed mousers
> like me!
> I'm working on a sheet now that involves removing a lot of parents, and I
> notice that when the inserted cell is Cut, the focus doesn't go anywhere.
> Shouldn't it return to the former parent, so that the whole sequence becomes
> a simple cut-delete-paste without having to touch the mouse?

You're right, that must have been lazyness. Will add.

> Any takers for Shift-Return to split a paragraph of text between two cells?

That's currently already taken by "select first child".

Wouter

Wouter van Oortmerssen

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Apr 8, 2011, 7:55:42 PM4/8/11
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> FreePlane allows user-settable time for delayed selection by
> mouseover. This means that I can change the focus by mousing without
> clicking. By adjusting the delay to my speed of work, I avoid
> inadvertent selections. Those clicks add up, and works goes more
> quickly and intuitively without them.

That would be very non-standard behavior. I could of course make it an
option, but I am trying to ensure I don't just add a bunch of options
for single users. I will have a feature voting site up soon.

Wouter

Wouter van Oortmerssen

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Apr 8, 2011, 7:56:43 PM4/8/11
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Out of: ESC
In to first child: SHIFT+ENTER

Wouter

Andrew Norris

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Apr 9, 2011, 4:17:45 PM4/9/11
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Can also use INS to go into first child, I find this is easier to remember. PS. Not had time to get my version of treesheets fixed Wouter, will do soon I Hope. Would love you to see it.


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