2009 Convention Schedule

[raind...@lycos.com]

So I thought this would be a good first topic to consider. Without
looking at my C.R.A.P., I believe MoCCA was seen as a definite for
next year, and SPX was up for debate. What else are we thinking? I,
myself, am looking at going to S.P.A.C.E. next year in the spring, as
well as MoCCA and the Boston Zine Fair and... I'm not sure what
else.

Where is Trees and Hills going, literally, and where do we want to
spreading our name to?

[Daniel Barlow]

Yep, a half-table shared with Anne is on for MoCCA 09. I would love to do SPX next year - but that is rather costly with the commute, although I can probably reduce my own costs by staying with friends out there.

 

I would love to do S.P.A.C.E. and APE - but, man, the economy sucks and I'm broke.

 

Boston Zine Fair - yes! And maybe one of the local shows in NH in the spring.

 

Thoughts?

 

-Dan

[Colin Tedford]

I actually hoped our first discussion would be to wrap up the "Values",
and the second to tidy up the "Vision" (list of activities, so we (that
is to say, I) can produce the "Intro to T&H" minicomic (see recent
"Retreat Report" post @ T&H.com, which hews closely to the email report
I sent out back when). I don't think either discussion should take very
long, and they are important foundational things, so I'd like to get
them out of the way. I will kick off those discussions soon.

That said, here's my input on conventions. If you do look at your
C.R.A.P., I believe you'll see that our convention year is not set in
stone, but is reasonably populated.

This year we attended (dollar amounts are paid / made):

Granite State Comicon (Manchester, NH) $? / $?
5/31? Broke: an affordable art fair (Peterborough, NH) $0 / $45?
6/ - MoCCA Art Festival (New York, NY) $175 / $211
6/28? ArtsAlive! Festival (Dover, NH) $0 / $14

9/20-21 - Boston Zine Fair (Boston, MA) $17 / $312
9/27 - Winchester Pickle Festival (Winchester, NH) $35 / $35
10/5 - Philly Zine Fest (Philadelphia, PA) $22 / $105

And we will be attending:
11/22 - Broke: an affordable art fair (Peterborough, NH) $45 / tbd
12/14 - Stars & Skulls Craft Fair (Hadley, MA) $25 / tbd
? 12/20 Ever Green Yule Faire (Milford, NH)

Also: Casablanca Comics in Portland, ME is organizing a small indie
comicon, but hasn't picked a date yet - I imagine it'll be next year
some time. A while ago Robyn Chapman told me about some folks in RI who
wanted to start a convention, and I just recently excavated their info,
so I'll drop them a line to let them know we'd be interested if they
actually did it. We missed August's Connecticon this year, but hopefully
can catch it next year. I don't recall any other events in our area,
other than the numerous NH cons we can pick from. I'll send along the
list of potentially interesting events outside our area later; there is
a decent list in the C.R.A.P. A short version without dates: APE (San
Francisco CA), SPACE (Columbus OH), Stumptown (Portland OR), STAPLE
(TX), SPX (Bethesda MD), Richmond Zine Fest (Richmond VA), Portland Zine
Symposium (Portland OR), Fluke (Athens GA), plus events whose names I
forget in Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, Minneapolis, Michigan, and more.

None of these count the transportation costs, but obviously the more
distance, the more expense.

It looks like our year breaks down into spring, fall, and holiday tours.
Mainly we have stuck to the Northeast, with MoCCA as our point of
contact with the rest of the country. I think this is the most
financially sustainable plan for now, though there are some nice events
elsewhere in the country (and in Canada) that I hope we can afford to
attend eventually. Maybe we could try to work one non-regional event
into our schedule each year - though I think repeated appearance may
help sales, so I don't know. I think our ever-expanding "product line"
has helped boost sales as well. Maybe if anyone takes vacations, they
can consider timing them to coincide with a convention? I tabled at
Stumptown this way in '06. I don't really travel outside New England
much myself, though.

It looks like zine fairs offer the best "bang for the buck". I also
think we should continue to experiment with inexpensive non-comics
events - festivals, art fairs, craft fairs, flea markets, bookmobiles,
tabling outside concerts, etc. Part of our mission is promoting comics
in general to the world at large, and there are a lot of people out
there we could be turning on to comics with our stuff (especially with
anthos like Seeds).

-Colin

www.colintedford.com
www.treesandhills.org

[Colin Tedford]

Sorry, forgot to mention that the missing & questioned dollar amounts & dates are written down somewhere, I just need to dig 'em out of one of the mounds of paper around here.
-Colin

www.colintedford.com
www.treesandhills.org

[Marek Bennett]

I could've SWORN we had a page on TreesAndHills.org (under RESOURCES?) devoted to listing ALL the local and all the MAJOR regional/national conventions on our radar screens, sorted by season/date, with links to registration info and any of our own relevant blog post categories... but perhaps that was just wishful thinking.  It sure would be useful!

 

-- Marek

[Mattyoung]

I guess I would ask what conventions T&H attended this year, and which
it would be repeating.

This is Mattyoung, by the way (thank you, Marek).

On Oct 7, 10:37 am, "Daniel Barlow" <barlowdan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep, a half-table shared with Anne is on for MoCCA 09. I would love to do
> SPX next year - but that is rather costly with the commute, although I can
> probably reduce my own costs by staying with friends out there.
>
> I would love to do S.P.A.C.E. and APE - but, man, the economy sucks and I'm
> broke.
>
> Boston Zine Fair - yes! And maybe one of the local shows in NH in the
> spring.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -Dan
>

[Mattyoung]

2009 Convention Schedule

[Colin Tedford]

See previous email for what we attended this year; I think pretty much all are worth repeating, plus squeezing in a few new (cheap) ones. Maybe we can work out some kind of ambassador protocol for folks to rep at "outside" events - for example, if you're going to SPACE, maybe T&H could send some books with you and split either the table cost or the revenue from our books with you. Something like this might be a good way for us to get to more conventions - it'd give the traveling individual some extra income, but save us the travel hassle.

-Colin

www.colintedford.com
www.treesandhills.org

[Mattyoung]

I found my CRAP and see what you mean, Colin, with the nice breakdown
of local, New England, close, and far away shows.

Which was exactly what I was talking about. I'm trying to plan just
such a trip for SPACE since I know people in Columbus, so I guess I
was asking about T&H's arrangements if (in this case) I go to SPACE
and how much thought one would need to put into representing T&H
(given our all-ages concern if one is not tabling with all-ages
material. (Of course, much of this would be explained in the
transaction of "Oh, this over HERE is my stuff, and over THERE is a
comics collective of cool all-ages people I'm part of..." So maybe
I'm just over-thinking all this.)

And PS: Sounds like T&H f-ing ROCKED Boston Zine Fair!!!! Go SEEDS!

[Daniel Barlow]

When is SPACE again? My webfu is failing me and I can't seem to find their Web site.

 

I'm going to lobby hard for us to go to SPX this year. I vow to watch for the registration and pull together the funds to get a table there, and probably a shared one as we had for 2007.

 

We should also think about farmer's markets in the spring ... maybe we could do a month-long tour hitting four farmer's markets in our area? Maybe Brattleboro, Manchester/Nashua (there must be one out there!), Northhampton and Montpelier? I like Montpelier's because sometimes Pat Leahy can be seen there and I'm sure he'll buy one of our comics.

 

-Dan

[Colin Tedford]

SPACE (http://www.backporchcomics.com/space.htm) is 4/18 & 4/19 this coming year.

I had forgotten about the farmer's markets - we should definitely do that. There's one in Keene (and I think Peterborough), too, and I imagine there must be some in western MA.

I think SPX registration is opening soon - maybe in November? But start checking now. Per Marek's dream, we should definitely get an awesome convention database going (not right this second, though). Possible SPX table partners might include Boston Roundtable and Always Comix.

On a side note, I have about 25 copies of Seeds left, which with Anne's 15 and Dan's 83 makes 123, meaning we are almost 2/3 sold out already, and will almost certainly need to reprint for MoCCA (there are still stores to stock, review copies to send, and conventions to attend). Seeds sales have paid for our convention fees and distro acquisitions since it came out and currently have those things covered for the rest of the year with almost enough left over to print the next anthology (not including bonus items). That leaves us with SPX, MoCCA, and spring convention fees & distro acquisitions to be covered, which will be covered at least partly by Seeds sales, plus the auctions I need to get going, and hopefully all of that will prevent Dan and I from needing to fund anything for long.

And totally unrelated, I met Jesse Reklaw (author of alterna-weekly dream strip Slow Wave, plus minicomic Couch Tag) recently and he had heard of T&H but wasn't sure how. Actually, I think he also runs Global Hobo Distro, so I'll try to get Seeds into his hands.

So yeah -conventions.

-Colin

www.colintedford.com
www.treesandhills.org

[mo...@simons-rock.edu]

I have tabled at SPX in the past and it is *absolutely* worth our getting
our shit together and going. Seriously.

Anne

> When is SPACE again? My webfu is failing me and I can't seem to find their
> Web site.
>
> I'm going to lobby hard for us to go to SPX this year. I vow to watch for
> the registration and pull together the funds to get a table there, and
> probably a shared one as we had for 2007.

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[Marek Bennett]

I am totally interested in conventions -- I'd like to nail a couple this Spring, with my all-new flexible schedule and Xeric powers, I think it's a good year to try out a couple longer shots.  Matt, keep me in mind for SPACE, if you're looking for a table-share.

 

-- Marek

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Daniel Barlow

To: treesa...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 5:08 PM

Subject: {Trees & Hills} Re: 2009 Convention Schedule

[mo...@simons-rock.edu]

If we're staring to talk money, and I think it sounds like we are, there's
still some money in the slush fund that I fired off to Dan for the SPX reg
that didn't end up happening, and I think we're already technically paid
for MoCCA, if my checkbook and recordkeeping is accurate (Dan is the money
launderer of my checks!)

Anne

[Daniel Barlow]

Should we have a vote on using Anne's loaned 2008 SPX table money to get a table for SPX 2009?

 

Full table or half-table? I don't remember how much the table was in 2007 and their Web site doesn't seem to have this year's price listed.

 

-Dan

[Colin Tedford]

Yeah, let's do SPX '09, and pay Anne back ASAP. I say half-table - it's what we do at MoCCA, and I don't think the extra space will justify the extra expense. I would be interested in us splitting a table with the Always Comix crew (Erin Griffin & Sarah Wahrhaftig) of Pennsylvania to observe their sales technique, as they seem to have cleaned up at both the Philly Zine Fest and SPX (they didn't have a table at SPX, just went around like "cigarette girls"), plus they are cool people who are very dedicated to comics. I don't remember how much SPX was - I think it was a little cheaper than MoCCA but still pretty expensive.

Anne, you are correct; we paid for MoCCA already, but we'll need the money so we can sign up for the following year on the spot again.

www.colintedford.com
www.treesandhills.org

Daniel Barlow wrote:

[Colin Tedford]

Also, not even including the loaned money from Anne, we have enough to pay for SPX - I just had it mentally allocated to other things, and we might need the slush fund later (though hopefully not). I've sent the organizers an email to ask about cost & reg. dates.

-Colin

www.colintedford.com
www.treesandhills.org

Daniel Barlow wrote:

[Colin Tedford]

Casablanca Comics is planning some sort of small press fest in Portland, ME for the spring (April or May). They asked about the zine fairs, so hopefully they will lean in that direction, though if not I expect it'll still be reasonably priced & worth attending.

The Always Comix folk are definitely interested in splitting a table with us @ SPX. They are Erin Griffin of Pittsburgh & Sarah Wahrhaftig of Philadelphia, and they make anthologies (I have a page in their most recent). They are cool folks, very dedicated to comics, and very good at selling; I am interested in watching them sell stuff. I also have seen them sorting logistics out between them (receipts, spreadhseets, etc) and it was nice to see other people doing similar things to what we have done; it might be fun to compare anthology-making notes with them. Their "web presence" is a little spotty, but: http://alwayscomix.blogspot.com.

As for "traveling reps" (such as Matt @ SPACE), out of the 2 options I suggested I think splitting sales of the books we send makes a lot more sense - there's a built-in incentive to sell, and the seller could potentially make more than they would the other way.

I sent in our $25 for a table @ Stars & Skulls Craft Fair in Hadley, MA the other day.

-Colin

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[Marek Bennett]

Re: CASABLANCA COMICS's Small Press Fest concept --

 

It sounds like this event is still in the planning stages, so here's an idea:

 

WHAT IF they went with the Zine Fair model, but T&H came up and organized a CREATE COMICS program based at the store?  Say they schedule it for school vacation week in April (assuming Maine's Spring vacation lines up with NH's); then:

 

-- Kids/teens/adults would come to the program and create comics 1-5 days out of the week

-- That Saturday, those same kids/teens/adults would form a little core of tables and comics for the Zine Fair, surrounded by other exhibitors and dealers and whatnot.

 

They'd have a real Event (in the time-sensitive sense) that:

 

-- SHOWCASES locally-produced comics ("the world's newest mini-comics!") alongside regional artists

-- creates NEW artists (out of workshop participants)

-- enlists participants in promoting and building the event

-- converts new masses of readers to our pro-comics agenda (each participant would invite family, friends, classmates, teachers...)

-- draws regional media attention (kids creating comics... hmmm, good photo ops + local culture angle!)

 

I could serve as educational focus, if T&H wants to focus on hammering out the deal w/ Casablanca, helping set up/promote, etc. ...

 

Well, IF this sounds interesting to T&H, I would propose that Colin pitch the concept to his inside contacts at Casablanca, OR he and I together pitch it to them... ASAP!

 

-- Marek "Mr. Bulletted Lists Chock Full O'Ideas" Bennett

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Colin Tedford

To: treesa...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:50 PM

Subject: {Trees & Hills} Re: 2009 Convention Schedule

[Colin Tedford]

Hey all,

SPX:
Erin & Sarah of Always Comix are poised to register a full SPX table to split with T&H when registration opens November 1st - what say we? I mean, I'm for it, but we are after all a group. If we decide to do it, Dan will need to send them our half of the fee, and I will send them our information. Speaking of, who would be planning to attend (with T&H as their primary location)? I've never been, so I think this will be the year I finally go.

Re: Casablanca:
I think Rick (Casablanca owner) might very well be into the workshop idea. I could sound things out, and then if Rick seems interested, maybe pass "negotiations" over to T&H Education Chancellor Marek Bennett. We should also talk with Michael Connor (Portland-based creator of "Coelacanthus"), who has taught comics classes. He can be hard to get ahold of, but we could encourage Rick to do so, and I'll try to meet with him (he works @ Strange Maine) when I visit in a couple weeks. If NH & ME vacations don't line up, we might still be able to work something out.

-Colin

www.colintedford.com
www.treesandhills.org

[Daniel Barlow]

YES! to SPX and sharing space with Erin & Sarah.

 

I will volunteer to go. I had a blast last time and met some friends that I want to visit and can stay with.

 

-Dan

[Marek Bennett]

I will be there.  I will have two items: my Xeric-powered book PLUS a new issue of MDZ, registered in the DEBUT category which Dan & I found to be so incredibly profitable (for our better-prepared neighbors, at least) in '07. 

 

So my question is, can I crash on like a quarter of a table with T&H, or is that TOO TOO CRAZY and should I just go register a half-table elsewhere?  I can advance funds presently to Mr. Barlow at the first indication of his affirmation to the former.

 

I have two safe-houses in DC and very nearby in MD, and so may also be able to procure for qualifying confederates (with some advance notice and convincing assurances of good behavior) some sleeping quarters on couches and matresses for the weekend.

 

-- M.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Daniel Barlow

To: treesa...@googlegroups.com

[Colin Tedford]

Marek, I think the quarter table would be too too crazy, but we could split a full table like we do @ MoCCA, and maybe just try to get the Always Comix folk as neighbors. Sorry Marek, I should have thought of that before.

 

Anne, are you thinking of table space?

 

I would like to apply for the lodging Marek speaks of; even a shared hotel room will likely be too rich for my cheap blood.

 

-Colin

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[Daniel Barlow]

The only way a 1/4 table would work if only one of us did the shift at a time. It would give us more floor time, but we would miss the opportunity of meeting people via our table.

 

-Dan

[mo...@simons-rock.edu]

Hey, Colin just called me and we had a big conversation about this very
thing. Colin, you want to give them the highlight reel?

>>> *From:* Daniel Barlow <barlow...@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* treesa...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2008 2:40 PM
>>> *Subject:* {Trees & Hills} Re: 2009 Convention Schedule: SPX &

>>> CASABLANCA
>>> COMICS
>>>
>>> YES! to SPX and sharing space with Erin & Sarah.
>>>
>>> I will volunteer to go. I had a blast last time and met some friends
>>> that
>>> I want to visit and can stay with.
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Colin Tedford
>>> <colint...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> SPX:
>>>> Erin & Sarah of Always Comix are poised to register a full SPX table
>>>> to
>>>> split with T&H when registration opens November 1st - what say we? I
>>>> mean,

>>>> *I'm* for it, but we are after all a group. If we decide to do it, Dan

>>>> *From:* Colin Tedford <colint...@gmail.com>
>>>> *To:* treesa...@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:50 PM
>>>> *Subject:* {Trees & Hills} Re: 2009 Convention Schedule

>>>>
>>>> Casablanca Comics is planning some sort of small press fest in
>>>> Portland,
>>>> ME for the spring (April or May). They asked about the zine fairs, so
>>>> hopefully they will lean in that direction, though if not I expect
>>>> it'll
>>>> still be reasonably priced & worth attending.
>>>>
>>>> The Always Comix folk are definitely interested in splitting a table
>>>> with

>>>> us @ SPX. They are Erin Griffin <http://cavitiescomix.blogspot.com/>

>>>> of
>>>> Pittsburgh & Sarah Wahrhaftig

>>>> <http://sally-bloodbath.livejournal.com/>of Philadelphia, and they

[Colin Tedford]

[takes deep breath]

 

OK, so I felt bad about getting Sarah & Erin all fired up to table with us and then changing the plan, and thought maybe Anne (who knows Erin) might want her own space @ SPX, thus might split a table with them, and we could all be a happy neighborhood. So I called Anne, and we had a big conversation.

 

At first Anne was undecided, but then moved to probably yes. I had been thinking that next year's BZF might be a good time to debut the socially-conscious adult-oriented book we've discussed (and the "official" T&H antho nwould be a little box set that wouldn't cost us much to make), but then going to SPX kind of threw that off. When I brought this up, though, we realized that SPX would actually be an excellent time to debut it. The table plan would be Marek + T&H at one table, and Always Comix + Anne & Offshore Comix at the other.

 

This leaves us with some things to do:

 

1. Start our "unofficial" offshoot publishing arm. To this end I have started a new discussion list for those of us who would like to organize or be involved with that (and who are at least 18 yrs old): http://groups.google.com/group/offshore-comix. For now I have added myself, Anne, and Dan to the list; if you want in, click the link to sign up. I have called the group "Offshore Comix" for now since that name had come up and received a favorable response, but we can change it if need be.

 

2. Check in with Erin & Sarah to make sure they actually like this plan (I'll do this).

 

3. Check SPX's stance re: adult material. I've sent emails which received auto-responses, so I'll try again. I imagine their stance is along the lines of "Don't display anything explicit, don't let kids see it, please talk to us beforehand". Dan, maybe you have a copy of the '07 registration form, which might have that info?

 

4. Talk to Robyn Chapman about her experience publishing & promoting such. I will try to do this; I will be in White River today, and also maybe next weekend for 24HCD.

 

5. Check with SPX re: how we should divide up registration: each half table seprarate, each table separate, or all together? Is there a cost difference? Will they handle our info correctly in promo? Will they honor "neighbor" requests? I will email about this, but probably we will just have to see what they post when registration opens.

 

6. We discussed the possibility of opening the Offshore book up to select non-T&H artists, since though it will benefit T&H it is not an official T&H project. T&H artists would get priority, though.

 

We also need to figure out our 2009 anthology themes. I'll kick off a new thread about this.

 

And: Another T&H retreat - why not? We could squeeze in another this year, right?

 

We are down to about 120 copies of Seeds. We still need to send out review copies, which may take us down to about 100. Then we should plan a reprint, since those 100 probably won't get us through MoCCA; we have at least 2 more shows this year, and presumably at least a couple shows (and maybe farmer's markets, etc) in the spring before MoCCA itself. I know Seeds is special, but I think we've reached a point where 300 is too small an initial print run. I think we should probably start at 400 - maybe 500.

 

I think that's everything, though we did cover a lot in what was originally going to be a short conversation.

 

-Colin

[Daniel Barlow]

1) I think the split table for Trees & Hills and Offshore at SPX sounds like a great plan.

 

2) We should maybe set up a cheapo Web site or blog spot for the new publishing arm - mostly just a place to point people to.

 

3) I'll dig around for that SPX paperwork.

 

4) I agree about opening up the erotic book to non-T&H authors.

 

5) Maybe do another 300 SEEDS in January?

 

-Dan

[Colin Tedford]

2) We should maybe set up a cheapo Web site or blog spot for the new publishing arm - mostly just a place to point people to.

Oh yeah, that's one of the things I forgot to bring up. I have us covered for web space, so as soon as we decide on the name (and maybe a mission statement?) I can register a domain and set something up. Obviously this should be in place by SPX registration time so the address can go in the promo materials. If we go with the Offshore name, I have a potential logo design.

5) Maybe do another 300 SEEDS in January?

Yikes, that seems like a lot! Though we may well be able to move them. I am thinking maybe more like 100-200, and print again if need be. Maybe we could count on reprinting in January, and decide the quantity after the holiday shows? The box set for MoCCA will be cheaper for T&H, but we will be printing 2 anthos for SPX. I also forgot to mention that we still need to finish assembling the rest of the Swingin' Hits run and push those; we haven't really pushed those too hard because they are a pain to make, but the books are printed & need to be sold. They should go out with our Seeds review packets.

 

Another thing I forgot to mention is that Anne very kindly agreed to donate the money she loaned to T&H for MoCCA '09. Thank you, Anne! The SPX "slush fund" is still in loan status, though.

 

-Colin

www.treesandhills.org

[Daniel Barlow]

I like the Offshore Comix name, although I wonder if we should just go with the more-typical Offshore Comics. Thoughts?

 

Yeah, let's wait until after the winter shows are done to see how many SEEDS are left. I still want to push it at farmer's markets in the spring and with some luck we could probably move a lot of those at those events.

 

Thank you, Anne, for the donation! You are awesome!

 

-Dan

[Mattyoung]

Geez. I skip one weekend and I feel so behind.

Thanks for your awesomeness, Anne!!!

On Oct 13, 10:31 am, "Daniel Barlow" <barlowdan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like the Offshore Comix name, although I wonder if we should just go with
> the more-typical Offshore Comics. Thoughts?
>
> Yeah, let's wait until after the winter shows are done to see how many SEEDS
> are left. I still want to push it at farmer's markets in the spring and with
> some luck we could probably move a lot of those at those events.
>
> Thank you, Anne, for the donation! You are awesome!
>
> -Dan
>

> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Colin Tedford <colintedf...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >  *2) We should maybe set up a cheapo Web site or blog spot for the new
> > publishing arm - mostly just a place to point people to.*

> > Oh yeah, that's one of the things I forgot to bring up. I have us covered
> > for web space, so as soon as we decide on the name (and maybe a mission
> > statement?) I can register a domain and set something up. Obviously this
> > should be in place by SPX registration time so the address can go in the
> > promo materials. If we go with the Offshore name, I have a potential logo
> > design.

> >  *5) Maybe do another 300 SEEDS in January?*

> > Yikes, that seems like a lot! Though we may well be able to move them. I am
> > thinking maybe more like 100-200, and print again if need be. Maybe we could
> > count on reprinting in January, and decide the quantity after the holiday
> > shows? The box set for MoCCA will be cheaper for T&H, but we will be
> > printing 2 anthos for SPX. I also forgot to mention that we still need to
> > finish assembling the rest of the Swingin' Hits run and push those; we
> > haven't really pushed those too hard because they are a pain to make, but
> > the books are printed & need to be sold. They should go out with our Seeds
> > review packets.
>
> > Another thing I forgot to mention is that Anne very kindly agreed to donate
> > the money she loaned to T&H for MoCCA '09. Thank you, Anne! The SPX "slush
> > fund" is still in loan status, though.
>
> > -Colin

> >   On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Daniel Barlow <barlowdan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>   1) I think the split table for Trees & Hills and Offshore at SPX sounds
> >> like a great plan.
>
> >> 2) We should maybe set up a cheapo Web site or blog spot for the new
> >> publishing arm - mostly just a place to point people to.
>
> >> 3) I'll dig around for that SPX paperwork.
>
> >> 4) I agree about opening up the erotic book to non-T&H authors.
>
> >> 5) Maybe do another 300 SEEDS in January?
>
> >> -Dan
>

> >>    On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Colin Tedford <colintedf...@gmail.com

> >>> We are down to about 120 copies of *Seeds*. We still need to send out

> >>> review copies, which may take us down to about 100. Then we should plan a
> >>> reprint, since those 100 probably won't get us through MoCCA; we have at
> >>> least 2 more shows this year, and presumably at least a couple shows (and

> >>> maybe farmer's markets, etc) in the spring before MoCCA itself. I know *
> >>> Seeds* is special, but I think we've reached a point where 300 is too

> >>> small an initial print run. I think we should probably start at 400 - maybe
> >>> 500.
>
> >>> I think that's everything, though we did cover a lot in what was
> >>> originally going to be a short conversation.
>
> >>> -Colin
>
> >>>    On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:11 PM, <mo...@simons-rock.edu> wrote:
>
> >>>> Hey, Colin just called me and we had a big conversation about this very
> >>>> thing. Colin, you want to give them the highlight reel?
>
> >>>> > The only way a 1/4 table would work if only one of us did the shift at
> >>>> a
> >>>> > time. It would give us more floor time, but we would miss the
> >>>> opportunity
> >>>> > of
> >>>> > meeting people via our table.
>
> >>>> > -Dan
>
> >>>> > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Colin Tedford

> >>>> > <colintedf...@gmail.com>wrote:

> >>>>  >>> *From:* Daniel Barlow <barlowdan...@gmail.com>

> >>>> >>> *To:* treesa...@googlegroups.com
> >>>> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2008 2:40 PM
> >>>> >>> *Subject:* {Trees & Hills} Re: 2009 Convention Schedule: SPX &
> >>>> >>> CASABLANCA
> >>>> >>> COMICS
>
> >>>> >>>  YES! to SPX and sharing space with Erin & Sarah.
>
> >>>> >>> I will volunteer to go. I had a blast last time and met some friends
> >>>> >>> that
> >>>> >>> I want to visit and can stay with.
>
> >>>> >>> -Dan
>
> >>>> >>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Colin Tedford

> >>>> >>> <colintedf...@gmail.com>wrote:

> ...
>
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[mo...@simons-rock.edu]

I'm gonna see if I can use it as a tax-write off...

WHOA! Let's do an anthology about taxes...!

A.

PS: I am not getting into another round of COMIX v COMICS with y'all.

> I like the Offshore Comix name, although I wonder if we should just go
> with
> the more-typical Offshore Comics. Thoughts?
>
> Yeah, let's wait until after the winter shows are done to see how many
> SEEDS
> are left. I still want to push it at farmer's markets in the spring and
> with
> some luck we could probably move a lot of those at those events.
>
> Thank you, Anne, for the donation! You are awesome!
>
> -Dan
>
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Colin Tedford
> <colint...@gmail.com>wrote:
>

>> *2) We should maybe set up a cheapo Web site or blog spot for the new
>> publishing arm - mostly just a place to point people to.*

>> Oh yeah, that's one of the things I forgot to bring up. I have us
>> covered
>> for web space, so as soon as we decide on the name (and maybe a mission
>> statement?) I can register a domain and set something up. Obviously this
>> should be in place by SPX registration time so the address can go in the
>> promo materials. If we go with the Offshore name, I have a potential
>> logo
>> design.

>> *5) Maybe do another 300 SEEDS in January?*

>>>> We are down to about 120 copies of *Seeds*. We still need to send out

>>>> review copies, which may take us down to about 100. Then we should
>>>> plan a
>>>> reprint, since those 100 probably won't get us through MoCCA; we have
>>>> at
>>>> least 2 more shows this year, and presumably at least a couple shows
>>>> (and
>>>> maybe farmer's markets, etc) in the spring before MoCCA itself. I know

>>>> *
>>>> Seeds* is special, but I think we've reached a point where 300 is too

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[mo...@simons-rock.edu]

Don't get too excited--it isn't the SPX money. It's about $125, far less
than the money Colin and Dan each kicked in for SEEDS printing.

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[colint...@gmail.com]

OK, so:

-- Always Comix is on board to spilt a table with Anne / Offshore.
-- Anne's $125 isn't *that* much less than what Dan & I donated for
Seeds (we each put in $187). We could have put in somewhat less if
we'd finished up Swingin' Hits & pushed it harder...
-- Comics vs. Comix: I still like Anne's reasons for "Comix" & thought
they applied especially well to Offshore, but either works for me.

I guess that's about it for now?

Things we need to do:
-- Save up for next MoCCA payment.
-- Keep an eye on the spring conventions so we can register on time.
-- Look into farmer's markets for spring.
-- Find out who's going to distant conventions & try to send books
with them.

Good work, everyone! Yay!
-Colin

[Daniel Barlow]

I'm fine with Offshore Comix.

 

-Dan

[Marek Bennett]

Incidentally, here's a program -- http://clifonline.org/index.cfm -- that
might help envision a step towards the travelling comics-mobile concept
bandied about so blithely in those happy, care-free days of Summer 2008...

-- M --