Re: Korean Gp:

[TUN tourguide]

Dear U Zaw Win Cho,

Good job Sir.. thanks..
In every country, NO-ONE can lead and guide the country's heritage
especially for the historic sites if he or she is 1) NOT a nationality
2) NOT holding a guide license. So, this is very fair and logical to
stop the Koreans doing this nonsense. Thanks Sir... And also, the
Guides in other destinations should do this process...

Best regards,

Tun Myat
G - 1844

On 1/18/12, zaw win cho <zwc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
> I have checked the Korean Tour Groups in BGN , specially in this
> Month, 2012 January
> about 4 Groups.
> Normally they are coming by the arrangement of zaw travel ground
> services(U ZAW WEIK) in BGN and I have noticed that,
> (1) English speaking local station tourist guide is accompanied by the
> group.(Now)
> (2) Before they have never use any local station or T/O guide.
> (3) It is because of report at tourist guide work shop in Naypyidaw
> and as well as
> MTGA CEC + EC meeting in YGN.
> (4) By myself it is good changes i think for tourist guide who can get job.
> (5) Also, please check in other 3 main tourist destination and report back.
> (6) But we still need to check, how much they pay for english station guide.
> (7) I am sure it is first step good change and we have to co-operate more.
> More message will be coming soon.
> U Zaw Win Cho,
> Vice- Chairman,(Temporary)
> MTGA( Bagan Zone)
>

[zaw win cho]

[winzaw oo5]

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ေလးစားစြာ-
၀င္းေဇာ္ဦး

On 1/18/12, zaw win cho <zwc...@gmail.com> wrote:

[lamoine]

Dear Zaw Win Cho (Mr.),

Thank you for your post. Regarding the matter, I want to know if any
measure officially imposed by government to travel agents who run
Korean groups? If yes, what and where we can find document?

By the way, if you are anyone who can be responsible, I have a
question.
Is there right to organize a group (reasonably group size is medium)
without taking local guide for Myanmar in-bound tours? It means not
for budget, but for the clients' preference such as freedom. If no,
it's OK. I already read your post where you wrote that it prevents
local guides' earning. If yes, what should be maximum numbers of pax
in the group?

Thank you in advance for your kind replies. I hope you will reply in
English, in order that everyone can easily read in any computer.

Sincerely,
Xavier

[Thant Zaw]

Dear All,
This is a big issue for every one in the tourism industry. There are
so many point of views we can discuss on this issue, such as in terms
of rule and regulation of the country tourism industry, or the freedom
and to be independent for the tourist who is visiting the country. In
my opinion, this is very important to have good and fair regulations
on tourism industry as not to prevent the tourism promotion and also
to protect the right and chances for the people in the industry.
So, I want to post some questions here.
1. Is there any rule saying that a foreigner is not allowed to lead a
group in Myamar without a guide or with a guide, ( I mean native, in
the industry we usually say ထိုင္ဂိုက္ or sitting guide)?
2. if no, shall we allow them to do so freely or shall we ask them to
attend a training or to have for eg. an interview to give them
permission to work as a guide or to lead a group?
3. Or we just say no to let them work as a guide here. In other
countries, as much as I know, in some country, even licensed tour
guide are not allowed to guide or give commentary in certain area such
as museum if he or she dose not have a proper license to do so.
This is what I think about.
With respect to all,
Thant Zaw

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[zaw win cho]

Dear Xavier,
Mingalabar,
Thank you for your interesting of my writing regarding with the Korean Gp.
i am also happy to explain you such as:
(1) Most of the tourist group European or Asian who have tour leader and
local T/O or station guide are always working together, I am sure that
you have already noticed.
(2)According to my experience (more than 20 years guiding), I worked together
with tour leader with more than 20 people and I knew that the clients like
to hear the explanation of local guide.
(3) Size of tour group who need local guide is easy to decide.
If you need tour leader for your group, it means you need local guide.
(4)I can not understand what do you mean the clients" preference for freedom
It means without local guide will be more freedom for them, I
don"t think so.
(5)Now , I am happy to see the Korean Group with local guide in Bagan even
they can not speak language but they can help for the security , safety and
satisfaction for the clients working together with the tour leader
and please
arrange the other destination.
(6) Tourism is increasing, in BGN, and i am sure more and more Korean people
are coming and will be good business for both side.
(7) Please do not find out rules and regulations to go back , pl forward working
together with us.
May I request to co- operate with us for the security, safety and
satisfaction
for the tourist.
Thank You and,
Best Regards,
Mr, Zaw Win Cho,
Vice- Chairman,
Myanmar Tourist Guide Association.
for the

On 1/20/12, lamoine <xlam...@gmail.com> wrote:

[lamoine]

Dear Zaw Win Cho (Mr.),

Thank you for your kind reply. It is interesting to understand your
opinion on this forum regarding need of local guide for Korean groups.
I am quite satisfied with your explanation on the issue discussed.

For better understanding, may I reply you as below. For fact No (3)
from your post, I do not agree about it. Reason of being accompanied
by T/L is different from that to be with local guide, in many areas.
So, if a group has T/L, it has to take local guide too, you said. That
is not entirely reasonable. Despite daily morning breakfast is taken,
you do not need always to have your lunch or dinner. I do not mean
that who is more important between T/L and local guide. But, I just
want to say that it is different.

For the real development of a market, (here, for Korean), I belief we
need to upgrade resources such as new generation of language speaking
guide. But, I do not want the government or any authority concerns who
implements orders rapidly (many of them are irrelevant to ground like
the case of uni-form) regardless the real situation. In this discussed
case, in Bagan, you said that local guide does not speak their
language, but, he helps to them with co-operation with T/L for the
safety, security and satisfaction of clients. But, I wonder if he does
not speak, how he can perform his duties very well in case of
seriousness happened and if his T/L does not speak neither English
well. So, doing such a job is to earn without any professional image
as a local guide, if I were him.

Hence, I questioned to all responsible persons of industry that until
how many pax in a group, do we have right to visit without local
guide? And, I want to reply you for the meaning of freedom that I
wrote in my post. Guides are doing jobs in schedule and timing as per
daily itinerary. So, Sometimes, travelers want to visit a place by
their own without listening to the guide, they feel it free. So, they
do not guide, even they have their T/L (which is for international
traveler need!). We can not interfere them to do such way of traveler
style, if they are in secured areas.

Conclusively, I want you to know that I am not seeking rules and
regulations for going back. I am thinking of how to leap with good
rules and regulations. You said, please working together, but, how we
can work without any good and reasonable rules for sake for all?

Sincerely,
Xavier

[lamoine]

Dear Zaw Win Cho (Mr.),

Thank you for your kind reply. It is interesting to understand your
opinion on this forum regarding need of local guide for Korean groups.
I am quite satisfied with your explanation on the issue discussed.

For better understanding, may I reply you as below. For fact No (3)
from your post, I do not agree about it. Reason of being accompanied
by T/L is different from that to be with local guide, in many areas.
So, if a group has T/L, it has to take local guide too, you said. That
is not entirely reasonable. Despite daily morning breakfast is taken,
you do not need always to have your lunch or dinner. I do not mean
that who is more important between T/L and local guide. But, I just
want to say that it is different.

For the real development of a market, (here, for Korean), I think we

[htin gyi]

Dear Ko Zaw Win Cho,

MINGALABAR!!!
My Warmest Cordial Greetings from a distance!

First of all, I would like to convey my love & respect to our Tourism Teachers, Seniors,Juniors & same batch colleagues.

As this is my very first time of showing my opinion in written form; please correct me if there were and improper word occurred in my mail while I will try my best not to.

I am so please to hear & see that The MGTA is formed for us & working harder in all aspect for us since we use to have  no one on our side before.

Just a little observation on your reply to Mr. Xavier's mail; it seems that you did not get his question because your replies were slightly  different from what he had asked ( I dont feel like pointing details as you can review).

I do appreciate and understand your hard work, precious time, enthusiasm on this very matter but since I believe that you are replying on behalf of MTGA ( because it's mentioned as vice-Chairman MTGA at the bottom of your mail), it would be better to explain or reply in an accurate & precise way with proper pronouns without any personal perspectives.

I understand that no one is perfect but let's try our best to improve & polish OUR language (English) ability in order to come up with proper English & grammar in stance construction as none of ours are yet merely reached to the basic standard. ( No offends to any of us & thanks in advance for understanding).

Especially it is NECESSARY for MGTA to reply with proper grammar & correct sentence construction being it is formed with all PROFESSIONAL TOURIST GUIDES.( No offends to any of us & thanks in advance for understanding).

I must say that I am very proud of you all's efforts that you all put into our tourism field & it would be my honor to serve for MGTA from any corner ( in person or back up support ) regardless of rank or money if necessary at anytime.

My heart felt thanks for your precious time which rendered to read this long e mail.

Please convey my sincere appreciation to each & everyone of MGTA.

With Best Regards

Daniel Townsend (a) Htin Gyi
( G - 0652 <1/95> )

[Nyi Nyi Frankie]

Guys,

This issue can't be done without proper legal process. It must be prescribed by law. Otherwise, it will not reach anywhere. But I do understand the Right that U Zaw Win Cho has been holding in terms of national interest (to rephrase, protection citizen's right in a certain career.). I'm looking forward to more legislation coming up in parliament. Other than that, I am very glad to hear all your storming work. Xaver, hope this says it all. Ko Daniel, thanks for your courageous involvement!

Truly, Frankie
 

[zaw win cho]

Dear Frankie,
Thank you for your understanding and participation.
Me, alone can"t do but I am sure we can do together.
Three days ago, I saw one foreign lady who dress like Myanmar
and guiding her clients at Mt.Popa Resort.
The reason, may be there are many tourist at the moment and
in short supply of language guide but we have to be careful for
the future.
Regards,
Zaw,