Here in Toronto they spent 8.5 million to put a safety net on a bridge that was a favourite junp-off spot for suicides. Now they find a train to jump in front of. Any thoughts? Yes, my first thought is that this was wasted money, because you are trying to save somebody who doesn't want to be saved. There are just too many other alternatives, and they will find another way.
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Perhaps somebody will volunteer as a dummy.
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----- Original Message -----From: Jack Slade
(Budget Travel) -- It's all the rage to criticize the airlines. But we found some smart, practical initiatives that point the way to a better future.
This test design for Personal Rapid Transit is part of plans for driverless pods to replace airport shuttles.
Driverless pods at airports
Someday, driverless pods may be zipping passengers between an airport and its parking lots. Fully automated, pods are more convenient than shuttle buses driven by humans. Currently, 18 pods are being tested at London Heathrow's Terminal 5. They let you board when you want to, rather than wait for a bus on a fixed schedule. Punch in your destination, such as a parking lot, on a touch screen. Then leave the driving to the machine, which glides on rails at speeds of 25 mph. A bonus perk: The pods are battery powered, so they don't spew out environmentally destructive exhaust.
----- Original Message -----From: Roy Reynolds
----- Original Message -----From: Jerry Roane
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 2:11 PMSubject: [t-i] Re: need invention: cow-catcher to prevent suicides
I can't speak for others on this subject, but it has always been a very
integral part of our internal system design effort and will continue top be
be so. Frankly, such discussions as we have just seen with regard to
"cowketchers) are really just a diversion by a lot of people not really that
close to the problem.
Kirston Henderson
MegaRail®
A better suggestion for Steve is to go back to the beginning of the problem, and make the solution there.
I know it is hard to comprehend that parents of a young person that has committed suicide would want to demand a drug test, but I would have if it had happened to one of my kids. Mind-changing drugs is probably the biggest problem on this Continent, and it makes no difference if somebody on drugs"wants" to step in front of a train, or is so spaced out that rhey dont even hear the train. There is no way to determine which is the case, in any given incident.
The incidents he is talking about seem localized to one area, so I would guess at contaminated drugs. The cure is to apply a murder charge to suppliers of this crap, and make sure the sentence is applied and carried out in a very short time. I would suggest about 2 months.
This is against the law, so change the law. Guess what would have happened to any supplier who killed one of my kids, if I had found him before the law did.
Jack Slade
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More than that, the "bumpers" on most cars today are just $1500 pieces of plastic ornamental junk that is there for appearence, not protection. The chrome-plated steel bumper on my 54 Ford that I drove for 9 years had a couple of scratches, but never needed any repairs.
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| I wonder what the result would have been in my deer crash this past June? The air bag inside the vehicle eventually went off after dribbling the deer. --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Steve Raney <steve...@cities21.org> wrote: |
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Subject: Air Bag System to Reduce Railway Fatalities - TCRP federal
research
Dec 18, 2009
To: Transportation Research Board (TRB) Committees AP065, AP070,
AP075:
• AP065, Rail Transit, Steve Abrams, Chair
• AP070, Commuter Rail, David Wilcock, Chair
• AP075, LRT, John Wilkins, Chair
Cc: Federal Railroad Administration, American Public Transit
Association, Amtrak Capitol Corridor, Caltrain, City of Palo Alto, TRW
Vehicle Safety Systems, Bosch Research US, Operation Lifesaver,
Transit Cooperative Research Program Senior Program Officer Diane
Schwager, TRB Public Transportation Specialist Dr. Peter Shaw, TRB
Rail Transport Specialist Elaine King, IDEO, Stanford D-School
From: Steve Raney, Tom Rubin, Walter Brewer, Jerry Roane, David
Maymudes.
Dear Transportation Research Board Committees,
Please consider having one or more committee members review and
enhance the draft Transit Cooperative Research Program (TCRP) Problem
Statement (for June 2010 submission for 2011 TCRP) found in the web
PDF or Word doc link below. Please also consider agendizing this topic
at a future committee meeting.
http://www.cities21.org/cms/tcrp_rail_airbag.pdf
http://www.cities21.org/cms/tcrp_rail_airbag.doc
I. TCRP PROBLEM TITLE
Air Bag System to Reduce Railway Pedestrian Fatalities
II. RESEARCH PROBLEM STATEMENT
In the US in 2006, there were 500 fatal collisions between trains and
pedestrians. Of these 500, about 360 were suicides. Psychologically
speaking, these are “dramatic” suicides where less-dramatic suicide
methods would not be substituted. These fatalities are devastating to
families and to rail transit personnel. Rail transit systems
experiencing frequent fatalities include: Caltrain, Amtrak Capitol
Corridor, Washington DC Metrorail, and others. Rail pedestrian
fatalities are also an international problem. The UK Rail Safety and
Standards Board estimates the total cost of suicides (trackside and at
stations) to the UK rail industry in 2003 was more than 11M GBP at
61,000 GBP cost per suicide. This cost includes delay to trains and
lost working time as a result of trauma suffered by staff . Each year
the UK experiences about 200 rail suicides. In 2008, there were 2,000
rail suicides in Japan. Germany experiences roughly 936 railway
suicides per year. Australia has called for improved crashworthiness
of trains.
A front-of-train air bag system shows promise in increasing rail
safety. When inflated, the air bag system might be 15 feet long and 7
feet high. The system will be able to safely handle a collision
between a pedestrian and a 60 mph locomotive, grabbing and holding the
pedestrian until the locomotive comes to a stop. Collision physics
calculations have been validated for a constant 20g deceleration. Such
an air bag system will necessarily have a more complicated design than
current in-vehicle automotive air bags. States a Principal Engineer
at TRW Automotive: "I believe that this concept is possible. I believe
that it would take quite a bit of development due to the volume of the
'bag' and the volatility of the propellants commonly used in air bag
systems. We would need to perform a lot of experimentation but I
overall I think it can be developed."
Proposed is a two-phase research study. The first phase covers design
and feasibility. The second phase creates an implementation plan.
III. OBJECTIVE
Save a significant portion of the 500 US lives per year lost to
railway pedestrian collisions, providing an annual value in lives
saved of $1B (based on low $2M value of a human life) and an annual
rail operating cost savings of $49.5M (based on UK Rail Safety and
Standards Board cost estimates). In Phase I, design the air bag system
and validate feasibility. In Phase II, create an implementation plan.