Fyi, not enough testimony sporting 7th, lots supporting 9th being submitted. Help!
Just to let you know, almost all the testimony we have received so far is from people on 8th and 9th opposed to diverters on 7th…
Zef Wagner
Associate Planner
Policy, Planning, & Projects Division
Portland Bureau of Transportation
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Subject: 7th/9th testimony to PSC
Hi there,
I checked and it looks like your neighborhood letters regarding the 7th/9th greenway were sent to the Mayor, Commissioner Novick, and Director Treat, but were never sent to the Planning and Sustainability Commission. My advice is to either resend your letters to p...@portlandoregon.gov, or better yet send new letters clarifying what exactly you are asking for regarding bicycle street classifications. The main questions are whether or not to extend the City Bikeway farther up 7th from Skidmore to Sumner, and whether or not to switch the City Bikeway and Major City Bikeway classifications on 7th and 9th south of Mason (currently 9th is the Major City Bikeway). As a reminder, your testimony must be received by end of day this Friday.
You may also want to send new letters to Commissioner Novick and the Mayor (really any or all of the Commissioners) before the hearings in April on the project list amendments. Like I said in the previous email, the current list of proposed amendments would make 7th Ave the preferred route for the 7th/9th neighborhood greenway south of Sumner. So I imagine you may want to simply support that amendment as written.
As always, please copy t...@portlandoregon.gov in your testimony emails, since that makes it easier for PBOT staff to track everything.
--Zef
Zef Wagner
Associate Planner
Policy, Planning, & Projects Division
Portland Bureau of Transportation
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The city is currently on a path to
designate NE 7th Ave as a Bikeway/Greenway and install traffic diverters
at several points along the street with the intent of diverting N/S
traffic onto MLK. Although 7th Ave clearly needs safety improvements
and traffic calming, many neighbors including myself, feel that traffic
diverters will likely push the traffic onto other neighborhood streets,
which are even narrower and less able to handle the increased traffic
(5,500 cars a day travel on 7th, according to PBOT estimates from two
years ago). Increased cut-through traffic could pose a serious safety
concern for kids who attend Irvington school as well as the many
families and residents in the neighborhood.
If you share this concern, please let the city know by this Friday,
March 25th and request that they prioritize a Greenway on NE 9th Ave,
which is more representative of other bikeways in the city – low
traffic, residential – and would not risk diverting thousands of cars a
day onto single-lane neighborhood streets. The Portland Planning and
Sustainability Commission is taking comments through this Friday.
Please email: p...@portlandoregon.gov with subject line “TSP Testimony” (include full name and mailing address) and make sure to reference the NE Greenway on 9th.
I’ve attached a diagram presented by PBOT, which shows the two options.
Also, there will be two public hearings on this issue in April:
- Thursday, April 14th, 6:00 to 9:00 pm, City Council Chambers, City Hall, 1221 SW 4th Ave
- Wednesday, April 20th, 2:00 to 5:00 pm, City Council Chambers, City Hall, 1221 SW 4th Ave
Can you explain why the 9th ave plan is twice as expensive. I certainly agree with you but need to understand why the additional expense.
Thanks for sharing, Gabe—I agree and message already sent in agreement with your point!
Thank you for bringing up NE 15th. Congestion along NE 15th would be impacted by a NE 7th diverter plan, which would be horrible. You are 100% correct that this would lead to an increase in cut-through traffic, especially around Irvington Elementary, caused by diverters on NE 7th. Traffic should be calmed on NE 7th but not diverted.
Steve, I didn't predict that adding controls on 7th would lead to an increase in cut-through traffic. I said the opposite.
I don't imagine many autos diverting from 7th all the way over to 15th,
since MLK is close by, has double the lane capacity, a higher posted
speed limit, and a center turn lane, making it faster and preferable to
15th.
Susan, I hope I'm right :^) If I'm driving a car, and have to choose between speedy MLK and block-after-block stop signs on 8th & 9th, I'm choosing MLK.
As a daily bike rider, and neighborhood resident, it makes much more sense to me to create the bikeway/greenway on NE 9th, a residential street, much like the other nearby bikeways on Going and … View more
The evening rush is most problematic. At that time I-5 is bumper to bumper, MLK is bumper to bumper and moves very slowly - As a result, people use 7th as a N-S alternative to VERY slow MLK. There is … View more
As Gabe mentioned, we have already seen what diversion on 7th looks like: it is not pretty.
Regarding the costs, as I understand it 7th would cost twice as much as 9th, and even that estimate probably does not include the (absolutely necessary for a greenway) removal of the extremely dangerous median rounds on 7th.
I just sent my TSP Testimony to the address provided by Gabe above. I recommend that folks on 8th, 9th, through 15th who are concerned about what diverters would do to traffic in Irvington make their … View more
I just submitted a TSP Testimony in support of a NE Greenway on 9th Avenue. Thank you--
I added my TSP Testimony voice. I support 9th and I think one reason 7th gets so much support is it shows us a nice clean, straight line across town. As a "pedal-only" commuter, I am perfectly fine (and prefer) being on a quieter street like 9th to pedal. I would prefer 9th over 7th as a bikeway.
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