"Getting the coverage"

[Mal Rowe]

Long term tram fan and friend Paul Nicholson refers to 'getting the
coverage' - meaning to capture images (and video these days) of tram
operations before they change.

The next big change for Melbourne will be the retirement of the Z class
trams.  Z1 and Z2 classes are already gone and Z3s are being retired now.

The class leader (116) is already preserved.

Withdrawal will accelerate from the end of this year when the G class
start to enter service.

If you want to get more than one of the Zs in the pic, then Swanston St
/ StKilda Rd and Maribyrnong Rd are the streets where more than one
route has Zs in service.

Mal Rowe - getting the coverage

[Mark Skinner]

Hi Mal,

How will the new underground affect that? 

Regards, 

Mark Skinner 

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[Mal Rowe]

On 10/02/2025 14:17, Mark Skinner wrote:

How will the new underground affect that? 

Good question Mark,

A few observations, rather than 'answers'!

• At present, inbound trams on route 58 often have a large number of passengers transfer to the train at South Yarra - that gives them a faster arrival in the CBD and unless they want to go up William St drops them closer to their destination.  On the other hand if they want to get to Melbourne University or the Hospital precinct they would be likely to stay on the tram.
• Once Anzac station opens similar options will arise for the St Kilda Rd routes.  
• If passengers are aiming for the centre of the city, they will probably find the tram quick enough and avoid changing mode.  They would avoid going down to the tunnel and back up again in the city.
  
• However, if they are heading to the University / Hospital precinct it will probably be worth changing mode and going to Parkville station ... if they can be bothered.
• I can't see any likely impact on route 57 - there is no easy connection between that route and Arden station.

Mal Rowe who reckons that the only traffic generator for Arden when it first opens will be tram and train buffs going to the Public Records Office of Victoria.

[Geoffrey Hansen]

I suppose in NSW it's good to get coverage of the V sets and K sets in NSW.

Regards Geoffrey

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[espee8800]

Well I walk from Kensington or Macaulay stations for the exercise and that will not change in the foreseeable. Of course if it is raining (rain what's that?) then the 402 bus is more than adequate.

On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 at 14:33, Mal Rowe <mal....@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/02/2025 14:17, Mark Skinner wrote:

How will the new underground affect that? 

Good question Mark,

Mal Rowe who reckons that the only traffic generator for Arden when it first opens will be tram and train buffs going to the Public Records Office of Victoria.

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[Bob Pearce]

Noticed the trolley pole base on the roof of #184.

Did all the Zs still have the bases, or were some removed from some of the Z
trams?

Bob in Perth

Great pics btw.

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[Steven Altham]

All the Z1 Z2 & Z3 originally had trolley poles pantographs began with the A2 trams & B1 class

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[Andrew Highriser]

As far as I know, at the non pantograph end of the tram, trolley bases were left. There is one Z3 tram where the pole holder swivels around, depending on the tram's momentum.

There could be some more information with a video from Richard Youl in the future.  

Andrew. 

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[Mal Rowe]

On 10/02/2025 19:36, 'Bob Pearce' via TramsDownUnder wrote:
> Noticed the trolley pole base on the roof of #184.
>
> Did all the Zs still have the bases, or were some removed from some of the Z
> trams?

The Zs and  the As built with poles do still have the base.

It was deemed simpler to leave the base on to provide the necessary
electrical termination point for the electrical cables (Pic attached).

Once the pole was taken off the issue of pole short circuit to the
trolley hook was eliminated.

Mal Rowe - who has seen some of the bases when removed - they were
rusted solid.

[Steven Altham]

Yes trolley spring bases  still in place at non pantograph end visiting Preston workshops Norm Cross got me a spring trolley base they were piled into   metal crates obviously for mostly scrap. the one I got would be a Z1  Z2 also got part of a Z trolley pole about 4 feet long with carbon skid top it's in my garage

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