The tram stop outside my office is wheelchair accessible but I can't get on any of the trams

[Greg Sutherland]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-28/melbourne-tram-network-is-largely-inaccessible/104634896

[TP]

In terms of  *unassisted* level boarding, Australian railed systems are pretty poor overall. Most get DDA compliance only through having staff-assistance available. The only fully level compliant systems for unassisted boarding are Sydney Metro, Perth Rail, L2/L3 tram in Sydney, Newcastle tram, Gold Coast tram and Canberra tram. I'm not up to date on Adelaide, but I assume the newer tram extensions are compliant, but I'm not sure about the Glenelg line.

Bus and ferry systems are generally compliant through ramps and gangways. They usually require staff to deploy them.

The mismatch between trams and platforms in Melbourne sounds like terribly bad planning.

Tony P

On Thursday, 28 November 2024 at 09:07:40 UTC+11 Greg Sutherland wrote:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-28/melbourne-tram-network-is-largely-inaccessible/104634896

[Daniel Bowen]

On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 at 10:57, 'TP' via TramsDownUnder <tramsdo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

The mismatch between trams and platforms in Melbourne sounds like terribly bad planning.

It's been pretty clear that for the most part they've been building platforms wherever it's easiest, rather than matching them to where the low floor trams run.

On the bright side, just about all of the CBD is done, and they're now planning corridors (sets of stops) on routes 82 and 86, which are or will soon be served by low floor trams.

So many more to do though.

Daniel

[Robert Smith]

Danial, 

The CBD has at least 3 stops not compliant, 58 - Flinders / Queens Bridge, 30 - Either Nicholson / Victoria or LaTrobe / Victoria, and Lonsdale / Spencer., with another to be closed 11, 12, 109 - Albert / Gibson.

I sent This to Paul Westcott this morning regarding what a see could be misleading in the video for the general public:

"00:49 State government plan to make tram stops accessible - wrong “Federal government Legislation - it made it seem that the government had to option to extend the deadline to 2032 (I saw you corrected this in the FB post.

~02:30 DOT saying there is 100 low floor trams operation on the network there is 200, though the graphic is technically correct.

~02:50 Activist hope a new operator will create more momentum, as you know they are wrong."

Also, the video seems to make a big thing that RT35 has so many Accessible stops and high floor trams, those of us that know the details, that it is a "tourist route" with a permanent exemption, this also questions what they intend to do with the Bourke / Spring St stop.

[Robert Smith]

Glenelg line is fully accessible.