Swanston and Victoria Streets upgrade

[brian_...@westnet.com.au]

Yarra Trams has announced plans to upgrade the existing tram tracks in Victoria Street and install new left-turning tram tracks at the signalised intersection of Victoria and Swanston streets.

 

At Elizabeth and Victoria Streets, there will be a new east-west connection across Elizabeth Street.

 

Details at http://tinyurl.com/54a89je9

 

Brian Weedon

[David McLoughlin]

Brian Weedon noted:

> At Elizabeth and Victoria Streets, there will be a new east-west connection across Elizabeth Street.

This is a major improvement on the existing layout, and opens up the possibility of various interesting runs.

[Steven Altham]

Why would they need an east west connection at Elizabeth st & Victoria sts any ideas anyone????

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[Mark Skinner]

Could it have something to do with the Underground project? I presume there's going to be a lot of route changes associated with that. 

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[Hal Cain]

Perhaps changing route 57 to run into Swanston St (and through to a southern terminus) will eliminate delays to 19 and 59 trams caused by waiting for a 57 to clear the Victoria St intersection out of Elizabeth St? It would also save squeezing three routes into the two-track terminus at Flinders St.  And the planned separate turning lane outside the City Baths would mean trams routed through North Melbourne would not obstruct those going north in Swanston St.

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[brian_...@westnet.com.au]

• Could it have something to do with the Underground project? I presume there's going to be a lot of route changes associated with that.
• Mark Skinner

 

Vicsig (https://www.facebook.com/groups/vicsig ) is suggesting that the Metro Tunnel will open by the 3^rd quarter of 2024.

The Victoria Street upgrade will be constructed around mid-2024. I am sure the two projects are related.

 

Brian Weedon

 

[Mal Rowe]

On 21/02/2024 08:00, brian_...@westnet.com.au wrote:

Yarra Trams has announced plans to upgrade the existing tram tracks in Victoria Street and install new left-turning tram tracks at the signalised intersection of Victoria and Swanston streets.

 

It is my understanding that a major driver for the project was to close the tramway on the west side of the old signal box to allow creation of a tiny park.

See the pic that Brian posted at: https://tdu.to/i/83989

However, the Elizabeth St - Swanston St connection is pretty important to allow transfer of trams between Essendon and (the new) Maidstone depots and the rest of the system. 

Through routing 57 with one of the southern routes would reduce congestion at the Elizabeth St terminus - where savvy southbound passengers usually alight at Collins S and walk to Finders St rather than sitting in their tram waiting to get into the shunt. (Pic attached)

It would also give Swanston St some low floor trams.

Mal Rowe - who gets off at Collins St

[Bob Pearce]

Will the former signal box be kept?

 

It perhaps should be heritage listed, OR failing that, re-erected somewhere – Hawthorn if there is room, or Bylands for example.

 

Bob in Perth

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[Malcolm Rowe]

Yes, the Franklin St box is heritage listed.  If you look at the smaller pic that Brian posted you will see that one option could be for it to become a coffee shop. 

Mal Rowe who reckons Melbourne can never have too many coffee shops.

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[brian_...@westnet.com.au]

• Yes, the Franklin St box is heritage listed. If you look at the smaller pic that Brian posted you will see that one option could be for it to become a coffee shop.
  Mal Rowe who reckons Melbourne can never have too many coffee shops.
• From Mal on the move

The Victorian Heritage Database has details of the signal box along with three photos. Refer to

https://vhd.heritagecouncil.vic.gov.au/places/5324

Brian Weedon

 

 

 

[Mal Rowe]

The signal box has been 'cleaned up' since the pics on the Heritage site.

2016 pic attached.

All it currently is used for is a toilet block.

It would seem to offer a good basis for a coffee shop.

Mal

[brian_weedon]

From https://yarratrams.com.au/planned-disruptions

"Service changes apply to Route 19, 57 and 59 tram". Scheduled dates are 4th July to 20th July. Presumably for the connecting tracks across Elizabeth Street.

Brian Weedon