New technology to control heavy metal in herb medicine

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shhww3

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Jul 25, 2007, 10:22:21 PM7/25/07
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In herb extract industry, heavy metal always is trouble problem. Heavy
metal entered herb body when it grew. Herb could be get heavy metal
from soil, air. Although it is only calculated by PPM grade. However,
wiping off it from raw material is rare complex and difficult work.
So, someone advice to sep up GCP base to control it.Regretful, it also
cause some problem. A GCP base was set up need at least 3 -5 years.
When it was set up, it had lost market opportunity. GCP isn't a good
method yet. So, we have to choose wild herb and be careful in raw
material. it is passiveness.

Recently, there are 2 kinds of good technologies to solve this
problem. One is SCF. Another is resin. Both of them are clear and
simple technology. However, it also will cause cost increase. But it
is worth for its good and clear effect.

Edward J Fletcher

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Jul 26, 2007, 11:54:00 AM7/26/07
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We are very interested in the comments you gave for reducing heavy metals in herbs.
 
Can you send us more information on this issue.
 
Thank you.

Genuinely,
Edward J. Fletcher
Strategic Sourcing, Inc.
Botanical Division, C.O.O.
115 Snow Ridge Rd.
Banner Elk, NC 28604 USA
828.898.7642
Fax.898.7647
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shhww3

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Jul 26, 2007, 9:20:25 PM7/26/07
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If use SCF technology, it can deal with powder. If use resin
technology, it must be transfered to fluid, then this process is fit
for to be added in manufacturing.


Richard Miller

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Jul 27, 2007, 2:49:05 PM7/27/07
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Ed:

I am uncertain what comments you might refer.  I have a colleague who has hybridized Psilocybin mushroom, very similar to our hybridization of Cordyceps mushroom (using snake venom).  That protocol is on my website as a technical paper..
 
What happens with the Psilocybin mushroom is that it "bio-prospects" mono-atomic silver (400x) as indoles.  It literally mines this metal from the soils.  A similar concept could be used to lift other such other heavy metals as platinum, gold, and mercury from damaged soils.
 
This is strictly a Chinese problem at the present time, with over-farmed lands and tired soils.  Further, there is no "due diligence" in developing quality control or C/As for products coming from China at this time.  It is no wonder no one wants anything to do with products coming from China until they clean up their act.
 
Even being proactive in this venue will take upward of 10 years for cleanliness and credibility.  They should have known better, and caught this before it came to the attention of the world.  Damage control, and literal cleanups are now going to take years before they have competitive products on the marketplace.
 
Rick
 
Richard Alan Miller, Physicist
Northwest Botanicals, Inc.
1212 SW 5th. Street
Grants Pass, OR   97526
 

Richard Miller

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Jul 29, 2007, 10:43:51 PM7/29/07
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Ed:

This is fringe physics, and not much available except individual studies.  Let's get their list of targeted heavy metals, and I will work up some "bio prospecting" filters which might be developed.
 
Rick

Richard Miller

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Jul 29, 2007, 10:54:06 PM7/29/07
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Ed:
 
Heavy metals come from over-farming, with using too much sludge from rivers for too long a period.  This was used in China to help build topsoils (which did NOT work).;  Who's trying to kid whom?  China already knows this.  It will require a cool century to rest those over-farmed lands and build up any real tilth again.
 
Nano technology will help, but not for another ten years (or so).  China needs to put a "due diligence" program in place, and develop a reputation (another ten years).  It is like GMO certification.  The soils are too bad to grow those kinds of crops now.
 
What we have now are forms of germplasm products that "bio prospect" specific metals.  I need a list of target metals that need to be "mined" to suggest micro-engineering systems.  Indols (silver) can be produced by hybridizing specific mushrooms - limited data, most on the fringe.
 
Richard Alan Miller, Physicist
Northwest Botanicals, Inc.
1212 SW 5th. Street
Grants Pass, OR   97526
 
 
 
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shhww3

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Jul 30, 2007, 5:37:39 AM7/30/07
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Dear Rick,

We have to accepted that your words are same with some paper in USA.
However, We are doubt that did you visit China? Did you know some
farners in China?
If my uncle know what you said, he maybe are laughing at it. You know
china is a very big country. In many region, there isn't so much river
and river sludge. :-)

Although heavy metal problem is a fact, Your reason still is a
imagine. In fact, chinese farmer seldome plant herb, Most of them
grows in mountain. We named a kind of herb souced from a fixed
mountain region " DAO DI herb". It means that this region soil and
climate can grow good herb medicine. It is validated by many and many
patient and doctor. All of them formed more than houndred years. Not a
chinese farmer hope to plant and can plant.

For example, wolfberry, All chinese knew Ning Xia wolfberry is DAO DI
Herb. Even My uncle want to sell wolfberry, No one will purchase from
him. In accent time, Ning Xia wolfberry is contributed to Chinese
emperor. Now, wolfberry souced from other region would never get that
hornor.

On Jul 30, 10:54 am, "Richard Miller" <r...@nwbotanicals.org> wrote:
> Ed:
>
> Heavy metals come from over-farming, with using too much sludge from rivers for too long a period. This was used in China to help build topsoils (which did NOT work).; Who's trying to kid whom? China already knows this. It will require a cool century to rest those over-farmed lands and build up any real tilth again.
>
> Nano technology will help, but not for another ten years (or so). China needs to put a "due diligence" program in place, and develop a reputation (another ten years). It is like GMO certification. The soils are too bad to grow those kinds of crops now.
>
> What we have now are forms of germplasm products that "bio prospect" specific metals. I need a list of target metals that need to be "mined" to suggest micro-engineering systems. Indols (silver) can be produced by hybridizing specific mushrooms - limited data, most on the fringe.
>
> Richard Alan Miller, Physicist
> Northwest Botanicals, Inc.
> 1212 SW 5th. Street
> Grants Pass, OR 97526
>
> 541-476-5588
> 541-476-1823 (fax)
> 541-295-9803 (cell)www.nwbotanicals.org

> r...@nwbotanicals.org


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Miller
> To: traditional-chin...@googlegroups.com
>

> Cc: Efletc...@skybest.com ; efletc...@strategicsourcinginc.net ; Conrad Richter


> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:49 AM
> Subject: [Animate Spring] New technology to control heavy metal in herb medicine
>
> Ed:
>
> I am uncertain what comments you might refer. I have a colleague who has hybridized Psilocybin mushroom, very similar to our hybridization of Cordyceps mushroom (using snake venom). That protocol is on my website as a technical paper..
>
> What happens with the Psilocybin mushroom is that it "bio-prospects" mono-atomic silver (400x) as indoles. It literally mines this metal from the soils. A similar concept could be used to lift other such other heavy metals as platinum, gold, and mercury from damaged soils.
>
> This is strictly a Chinese problem at the present time, with over-farmed lands and tired soils. Further, there is no "due diligence" in developing quality control or C/As for products coming from China at this time. It is no wonder no one wants anything to do with products coming from China until they clean up their act.
>
> Even being proactive in this venue will take upward of 10 years for cleanliness and credibility. They should have known better, and caught this before it came to the attention of the world. Damage control, and literal cleanups are now going to take years before they have competitive products on the marketplace.
>
> Rick
>
> Richard Alan Miller, Physicist
> Northwest Botanicals, Inc.
> 1212 SW 5th. Street
> Grants Pass, OR 97526
>
> 541-476-5588
> 541-476-1823 (fax)
> 541-295-9803 (cell)
> www.nwbotanicals.org

> r...@nwbotanicals.org


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Edward J Fletcher
> To: traditional-chin...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:54 AM
> Subject: [Animate Spring] Re: New technology to control heavy metal in herb medicine
>
> We are very interested in the comments you gave for reducing heavy metals in herbs.
>
> Can you send us more information on this issue.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Genuinely,
> Edward J. Fletcher
> Strategic Sourcing, Inc.
> Botanical Division, C.O.O.
> 115 Snow Ridge Rd.
> Banner Elk, NC 28604 USA
> 828.898.7642
> Fax.898.7647

> Efletc...@StrategicSourcingInc.net

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