Shoreline scoring

[cero...@aol.com]

Hello,

 

It seems The Strawberry Canyon Track Club's open men's team was scored as the third-place team overall (prize money) and second-place team overall (actual Pacific Association points scoring) in the PA Shoreline Cross Country race hosted by the Asics Aggies on Oct. 24 in Mountain View. Though we were certainly pleased with that, we didn't expect this particular outcome either.

 

I personally don't have any knowledge of what happened with the adidas Transports men's team, but hopefully this is correctable as Les Ong requests that these issues by resolved by the following Wednesday at latest subsequent to the race. This is why we were not counted at Garin -- in that we were not familiar with the scoring process until a substantial amount of time had passed (fair enough--lesson learned by a new club and newly minted club coach).

 

Still, unless the adidas Transports open men were disqualified for some significant rules violation and our club was unaware of this DQ, I strongly (personally) feel, and believe our roster members on the whole would agree, the adidas Transports open men's team deserves to be placed ahead of us in light of their superior race effort, as they clearly beat us in head to head point counts.

 

Our time will come but I would prefer not to accept prevalence over a team that clearly fronted us unless they cut the course, threw elbows and knocked competitors out of the race or did something outrageously flagrant, and think the adidas Transports men's open team results should be counted in the aggregate team scoring.

 

I was not asked to do this by adidas Transports, these are simply my personal thoughts on the matter. Thanks for reading this over (just offering my .02) and for all of your collective efforts on race day and in the PA circuit.

Sincerest regards,

Carl Rose
Coach--Strawberry Canyon Track Club

[cero...@aol.com]

I did my part it's on them as far as I am concerned.

Carl


-----Original Message-----
From: Les Ong <les...@tkecapital.com>
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Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: Shoreline scoring

Hi Carl,

 

To date, I have not received a team scoring submission from the Transport's team. There is a 3 day window,

after team scorings have been posted, for a late team submission to be accepted. This window ends on Sunday.

 

This email serves notice to the Transport's team since there are members of the team on the distribution of this email.

 

Les

[cero...@aol.com]

Looks like Transports took our lunch money after all...

;) Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: Les Ong <les...@tkecapital.com>
To: Thomas Kloos <tkl...@usfca.edu>; cero...@aol.com
Cc: dickb...@gmail.com; track-...@googlegroups.com; charle...@gmail.com; TC...@pge.com; mont...@comcast.net; ell...@berkeley.edu; MFan...@pacunion.com; bpi...@hotmail.com; afva...@gmail.com; tsan...@berkeley.edu
Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: Shoreline scoring

Scoring updated! 
 
Les 
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Kloos" <tkl...@usfca.edu> 
To: <cero...@aol.com> 
Cc: <les...@tkecapital.com>; <dickb...@gmail.com>; <track-...@googlegroups.com>; <charle...@gmail.com>; <TC...@pge.com>; <mont...@comcast.net>; <ell...@berkeley.edu>; <MFan...@pacunion.com>; <bpi...@hotmail.com>; <afva...@gmail.com>; <tsan...@berkeley.edu> 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:23 PM 
Subject: Re: Shoreline scoring 
 
> Just submitted a team for Transports, so should be all good now. 
> Thank you Carl for bringing this to our attention! 
> Tom 
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Kloos 
> University of San Francisco 
> Assistant Men/Women - Cross Country/Track 
> (415) 422-2926 

>> run...@googlegroups.com ; charle...@gmail.com ; TC...@pge.com ; 

>> = 
>> 
>  

[cero...@aol.com]

Charles, can you resolve the timing discrepancies for Alex Varner and the runners I coach, i.e. Chris Gerber? Their reported times were a good 10-12 seconds slower than the actual time when they'd crossed the finish line and it appears the glitch occurred between Alex Varner (22:33) and Sergio Reyes (22:21), yet Varner was right on his heels, getting outkicked. Chris G. was 22:35 or so, etc.

Carl Rose

-----Original Message-----
From: Les Ong <les...@tkecapital.com>

To: Thomas Kloos <tkl...@usfca.edu>; cero...@aol.com
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Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: Shoreline scoring

Scoring updated! 
 
Les 

----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Kloos" <tkl...@usfca.edu> 
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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:23 PM 
Subject: Re: Shoreline scoring 
 
> Just submitted a team for Transports, so should be all good now. 
> Thank you Carl for bringing this to our attention! 
> Tom 
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Kloos 
> University of San Francisco 
> Assistant Men/Women - Cross Country/Track 
> (415) 422-2926 
> 

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: cero...@aol.com 
> Date: Friday, October 30, 2009 1:46 pm 
> Subject: Re: Shoreline scoring 

> To: les...@tkecapital.com, dickb...@gmail.com, tkl...@usfca.edu, 
> track-...@googlegroups.com, charle...@gmail.com, TC...@pge.com, 
> mont...@comcast.net, ell...@berkeley.edu, MFan...@pacunion.com, 
> bpi...@hotmail.com, afva...@gmail.com, tsan...@berkeley.edu 
> 

>> I did my part it's on them as far as I am concerned. 
>> 
>> Carl 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Les Ong <les...@tkecapital.com> 
>> To: dickb...@gmail.com; tkl...@usfca.edu; track- 
>> run...@googlegroups.com; charle...@gmail.com; TC...@pge.com; 
>> mont...@comcast.net; ell...@berkeley.edu; MFan...@pacunion.com; 
>> bpi...@hotmail.com; afva...@gmail.com; tsan...@berkeley.edu; 
>> cero...@aol.comSent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 12:50 pm 
>> Subject: Re: Shoreline scoring 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Carl, 
>> 
>> To date, I have not received a team scoring submission from the 
>> Transport's team. There is a 3 day window, 
>> after team scorings have been posted, for a late team submission to 
>> be accepted. This window ends on Sunday. 
>> 
>> This email serves notice to the Transport's team since there are 
>> members of the team on the distribution of this email. 
>> 
>> Les 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: cero...@aol.com 
>> To: les...@cyberprofitstoday.com ; les...@tkecapital.com ; 
>> dickb...@gmail.com ; tkl...@usfca.edu ; track- 

>> run...@googlegroups.com ; charle...@gmail.com ; TC...@pge.com ; 

>> = 
>> 
>  

[cero...@aol.com]

Les, thank you very much for all of your due diligence. And guys, it looks like Transports didn't take our lunch money after all! :)

 

Awesome job, Les.

Carl


-----Original Message-----
From: Les Ong <les...@tkecapital.com>
To: Carl Rose <cero...@aol.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 7:23 pm
Subject: Re: Shoreline scoring

FYI,

 

Your team earned the 3rd place money $25. B teams can't receive prize money until all eligible A teams are passed.

 

Also, although the results show Chris Gerber on the wrong team, I did score him on the right team.

However, I will also change the info on the results page.

 

Les

 

On 10/30/2009 7:13:12 PM, cero...@aol.com wrote:
> Chris Gerber is Strawberry Canyon Track Club (not Santa Cruz Track Club
> aka SCTC). Thank you for all of your efforts.

[dr...@berkeley.edu]

Woo, big money! Also, just a reminder, today is the last day to get $10
off on registering for the Rival 5K/10K challenge, which many of us are
using as a pre-PAUSATF tuneup. Use coupon code GOBEARS.

See you all tomorrow,
David

[cero...@aol.com]

I want my 4% guys.

[Sam Robinson]

I am up for starting a Strawberry Canyon hedge fund.

 

:)