Amd Ryzen 9 7950x Build
Desiderato Chouinard
Lets assume firstly that the PC is running a DAW only ie Nuendo and associated utilities only.
Additional essential utilities running on my system are RTPmidi, ilok, RME total mix, network for VePro, ShuttlePro driver. These all need to be running.
What about if we want to have a browser open for manuals and quick searches etc. Was it able to run on the e-cores? but now, since disabling e-cores, is taxing p-cores and competing with Nunedo? Or were they always using p-cores?
Is there a CPU affinity utility, such as Prio or Process Lasso, that is favoured to work with Nuendo so that I can have the e-cores still running and not have to change the affinity every time I load N12? I could force my browser and non-realtime utilities like total mix to use e-cores. And force Nuendo to use only p-cores. Could this be problematic?
BTW. I have mildly overclocked and locked the frequencies on my system. P-core locked to 4.9ghz and E-cores locked to 3.6ghz.
Given that all E-states are disabled, my cooling is good etc are the e-cores then usable by Nuendo or other background audio services? Low latency is important as I am a heavy VSTi user.
However, even with the new P-Core/E-Core architecture from Intel you do not neccessarily get performance issues. This highly depends on a huge bunch of factors in your specific system and configuration.
The problem is that Steinberg currently does not have real control about how processing is done, because that is done down in the Windows 11 thread director. There seem to be issues with this new techology that Microsoft needs to work on, like this one for example
Thanks for the numerous replies! After a lot of research, I decided on the Ryzen 7950x with an x670 motherboard. The performance of my system is excellent - much better than expected. I have no experience with latest generation Intel processors, but I can fully recommend the Ryzen 7950x.
AMD has had sub-par USB implementation in the past, and since most audio interfaces are USB these days, that leads to problems. This is a bigger deal. It can be solved with an addon USB board, of course (so long as said board uses a good chip). This was a real issue, not sure if it is anymore. As with any issues like that it could be a thing where one brand of interface is 100% fine and another has all kinds of problems.
When it was my money, I got an Intel CPU mostly because it is better for gaming, which is what I do a lot of with my computer (audio is just a hobby for me). It works great in Nuendo though, at least with Windows 11 which has an improved scheduler for the different kinds of cores.
I decided on the Ryzen 7950x with an x670 motherboard. The performance of my system is excellent - much better than expected. I have no experience with latest generation Intel processors, but I can fully recommend the Ryzen 7950x.
Thank you, yeah that seems off. Notice the 12900k sits with the 7700x but the 12900ks tops the list. Seems like this bottom two were running in software or something. The igpu on all of the Ryzen chips is the same, not sure if the 7950 has some other advantage to speed it up but I doubt it.
Considering they are still using RDNA 2, expect it to be garbage. Intel has the best hardware encoders currently, until a comparison can be made with Lovelace. Remember, speed means nothing if the output is potato. If you want AV1 encode, just grab an Intel ARC GPU.
It does as they would need a new die for the new ASICS. Until AMD proves me wrong, I will stick with what the evidence holds to be true. There is also no mention of any encoding ASICS on the specifications page for the new processors The onboard GPU also performs worse than previous gen because it's limited to 2 cores (beaten by a Ryzen 3 2200G haha).
Does the IGP support AV1 decode?Yes, it is similar in capabilities to the Ryzen 6000 Series. It's the same RDNA2 compute units, same VCN [Video] and DCN [Display] IP. -zen-4-ryzen-7000-technical-details/
Made some recent hardware upgrades. Long story short, ASUS x670e proart, and AMD 7950x. However, my system hasn't seen 6+hours of continuous uptime in almost 2 days now. The power supply is 1200w and brand new, cstates are normal, but Power Supply Idle Control is set to typical current idle. Any help is greatly appreciated. I believe the attached syslog has at least 2 reboots captured. One happened just before turning syslog on while Docker and vm service were disabled.
Possibly unrelated but I'm seeing some call traces that should be gone if you switch to ipvlan (Settings -> Docker Settings -> Docker custom network type -> ipvlan (advanced view must be enabled, top right))
It's the first Ryzen 7000 i see with Unraid, no idea if it's stable or not with current kernel, boot in safe mode and leave docker/VM services divisibled for for now, if it still crashes like that there might be issues with the hardware or kernel support.
It could be hardware I guess with a 1-week-old system. Brand-new processor + new bios, chipset, and 4 sticks of DDR5 Om going to tinker and change a few things. I'll disable c states just in case, but there is one issue I've noticed for unraid on my motherboard. I have no USB 2.0 ports on my motherboard. Figuring higher heat of usb3 devices, I bought a USB 3.0 flash drive and plugged it into a 2.0 port on my old motherboard. Logic was it should last longer IF they designed it for likely higher USB 3.0 heat output plugged into a usb 2.0 port making it run slower/cooler in the long run. My motherboard is an asus x670e creator proart(for 4x nvme, and 3x pcie slots and 4x sata ports. I doubt this flash drive is failing given it's less than 9 months old. Early adopters beware. Might spin up a test server and hope the issues with ryzen 7000 get ironed out of unraid if thats the case or I can figure out what to do for stability. I managed to get it to run for close to 24 hours with docker disabled. Trying to figure out more right now.
Currently going on about 20hours of runtime with docker enabled. Disabled c states in bios as well as disabling all forms of overclocking other than PBO curve optimizer. Previously had memory set to default non XMP/EXPO but realized there are multiple auto overclock settings auto enabled that mention CPU and memory. Ryzen 7000 integrates a lot of power saving features from the mobile Ryzen 6000 so I'm going to try and narrow down which of these changes made this happen.
I guess that makes at least 2 of us on 7000 series on unRAID. I was also having reboot issues but I think it had something to do with my GPU (1070). The only major issues in the log were saying that the PCI device had fallen off the bus. I removed it from the server and deleted the Nvidia driver yesterday evening and it hasn't rebooted since then, where previously it barely made it a few hours without crashing.
I have no evidence of this, but I'm wondering if maybe there's some weirdness somewhere having to do with a PCI-e 3.0 device running on a 5.0 platform, plus unRAID which probably hasn't received much in the way of Ryzen 7000 and/or PCI-e 5.0 optimizations. I may try adjusting PCI-e setting in the BIOS.
Not sure if this has anything to do with your issue, but since this was the only post from a Ryzen 7000 owner I could find on the forums figured I'd chime in since there seems to be very few of us at this point in time. Hopefully it's helpful to anyone else that finds their way in here.
I could see this being related to the issue. My reboots have stopped, and I didn't make other changes. Today I re-enabled c states fingers crossed it remains stable. But I am running dual GPU one for ML and heavier tasks and an old GTX960 for lighter tasks.
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