Would Tour-de-ColdFusion document only ColdFusion CFML?

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Rich Erikson

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Sep 18, 2009, 1:24:16 PM9/18/09
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Probably a dumb question, but will throw it out there: Tour-de-Flex is
brilliant. But CFML is a little different than MXML cause there's
only one implementation of Flex.

Any change a Tour-de-ColdFusion could be designed to allow users of
the different CFML language definitions to document their respective
syntaxes, i.e. the folks behind http://opencfml.org/display/cfmladvisory/Home
could have a place to do more than just dryly list their different
tags,functions and attributes, but actually bring these differences to
live with live code snippets?

Alex Frates

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Sep 18, 2009, 4:45:15 PM9/18/09
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I also am of the opinion of supporting the multiple flavors of CFML
with some cross references...
Cross referencing tags or functionality across the different CFML
engines, syntax differences, maybe even some implementation
differences would be useful.

Greg Wilson

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Sep 18, 2009, 7:35:18 PM9/18/09
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I think this is doable long-term but for the initial release, we have
limited funds (and time) so we'll be focusing on Adobe ColdFusion for
now. Once we get it out in the community, we can start adding other
samples including samples that are related to other CFML
implementations.

:)

Greg Wilson
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Raymond Camden

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Sep 18, 2009, 7:57:43 PM9/18/09
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I would agree - I've got nothing against the other vendors, but Tour
De X _is_ an Adobe product, is it not?

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Adam Haskell

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Sep 18, 2009, 8:31:35 PM9/18/09
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Yep definitely an Adobe related initiative. Besides the reality is
most of the engines follow suite with what Adobe puts out, not to say
we don't innovate as well. Where there is differentiation leave it up
to the OS folks to submit or add information.

Adam

On Sep 18, 7:57 pm, Raymond Camden <rcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would agree - I've got nothing against the other vendors, but Tour
> De X _is_ an Adobe product, is it not?
>

Richard Erikson

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Sep 19, 2009, 6:08:08 AM9/19/09
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OK, well as Ray pointed out, it's an Adobe product, which is why I
thought it might be a dumb question in the first place.

But I know a big part of Tour-de-Flex is allowing developers to
showcase work they host on their own servers:
http://gregsramblings.com/2008/11/23/tour-de-flex-how-to-add-your-components-effects-skins-etc/

...so I thought the submission process could be more seamlessly
integrated with the app to allow one developer to host/showcase, say,
a demo of <cfinvoke /> in Railo, another developer to host/showcase
the same snippet on OpenBD, a third in ColdFusion, etc.

On the one hand it's awkward I guess for Adobe to advertise other CFML
engines. On the other hand, ColdFusion to my mind competes in a
different space, with its access to and integration with other Adobe
products and services and only benefits from the expansion of the CFML
community.

Anyway, Tour-de-Flex is cool, but it's submission process is a little
cumbersome and I think there's a great need out there for some mashup
of comprehensive documentation across cfml engines with live code
snippets with the ability to showcase one's work with ses URL's - some
combination of:

http://www.gotapi.com/ + http://www.cfquickdocs.com/ +
http://opencfml.org/ + http://feeds.adobe.com/ + http://www.cflib.org/
+ http://flex.org/2008/10/31/submit-component-tour-de-flex + easy
URL's to get directly to specific snippets

And let the community submit all the code and brag about and embed it
in their blogs.

Build it right, and you'd have an immediate, authoritative
thousand-points-of-light bring-everybody-together beacon of knowledge
sharing.

That's what I'd really like to see, but I know whatever you guys do is
going to rock!

/re

Rob Brooks-Bilson

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Sep 22, 2009, 8:50:40 PM9/22/09
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Alex,

Check out www.opencfml.org. The CFML Advisory Committee is hard at
work documenting syntax and implementation differences across all CFML
engines.

-Rob
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