Le Bifthèque
Kirk Belanger
I recalled a huge advertising campaign they launched about a year ago
raving about their steaks at an affordable price. While the garlic bread
served before the meal was OK, the salad was very large, but the steak,
pitiful.
The steak was not as marbelized as you would expect from a primarily
steakhouse venue. In fact, this experience reminded me of the old Steak
n' Burger restaurants that used to populate the city. With one
exception, the service was better at the Steak n' Burger.
In this case, they "Sold-The-Sizzle" and not the steak......
Aside: I will be going to Ruth's Chris this week. Anybody tried this
restaurant yet?
Kirk
PS - Sorry Dimitri, I'm giving the Danforth a rest for a while...... :-)
Hownow
<kbe...@netscape.net> wrote:
What place was that?
Your header came across on my server garbled in something that even
Enigma would be unable to decode.
- hm
Janice
"Kirk Belanger" <kbe...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> steakhouse venue. In fact, this experience reminded me of the old Steak
> n' Burger restaurants that used to populate the city.
I'm not a big steak eater but I kinda miss the Steak n Burger. It was
affordable, at least. I wonder if we ate it now we would think it good?
Tastes have really become more sophisticated.
> Aside: I will be going to Ruth's Chris this week. Anybody tried this
> restaurant yet?
Many have reviewed it here as great steak at a great price. Even the
potatoes cost extra. As I said, I am not a big steak eater but I would like
to try The Tulip some time after all the raves I've read here.
Janice aka Calamity!
HG
> I recalled a huge advertising campaign they launched about a year ago
> raving about their steaks at an affordable price. While the garlic bread
> served before the meal was OK, the salad was very large, but the steak,
> pitiful.
> The steak was not as marbelized as you would expect from a primarily
> steakhouse venue. In fact, this experience reminded me of the old Steak
> n' Burger restaurants that used to populate the city. With one
> exception, the service was better at the Steak n' Burger.
> In this case, they "Sold-The-Sizzle" and not the steak......
>
> Aside: I will be going to Ruth's Chris this week. Anybody tried this
> restaurant yet?
Ruth's Chris makes amazing steaks - I haven't had a better steak in Toronto.
Kirk Belanger
Hownow wrote:
> In article <3B23A493...@netscape.net>, Kirk Belanger
> <kbe...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> What place was that?
> Your header came across on my server garbled in something that even
> Enigma would be unable to decode.
>
Le Biftheque.
THE SECOND OPINION
In my opinion The tulip is the best steak place in Toronto for the money. I
recently brought a dentist friend of mine who frequents Ruth Chris there for
dinner. He said that Ruth Chris was only slightly superior in quality, at
over twice the price. By the way, we just ate at an Afghani place called
Chopan Kabob House on Danforth east of Pape, after reading a review. I was
very impressed with all the food ... both of our meat dishes (one lamb and
one chicken kabob) were juicy, tender, and delicious. The long grain
basmati rice was REALLY LONG, mouth-watering, and stir-fried with raisons
and julienne carrots. All the vegetarian appetizers were full of flavour
and not greasy. We split a tasty pistachio custard pudding for dessert.
So, if you would like a meaty alternative to steak at a good price without
doing the "Mr. Greek souvlaki" thing, this place is great. However, if you
are lez or bi, you will be disappointed to know that pussy potential at
Chopan Kabob House is very low.
Also, you should try the Portuguese place I reviewed the other day, El
Farol, on St. Clair west of Dufferin. The T-bone steaks they were serving
looked astounding (we had goat and fish that evening). Their prices are
rock bottom. IAN, one of the participants in our evening out last Friday,
frequents the place. IAN ... perhaps you can fill the group in on the
quality of steaks there.
A few days ago I read a review in the paper (I believe The National Post) on
Royal Beef, a butcher on Danforth near Greenwood. Supposedly, they have top
quality Alberta beef at rock bottom prices. The massive article compared
Royal Beef, Pusateri's, and another expensive, with Royal Beef appearing to
be very close in quality at a ridiculously low price.
DIMITRI
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Janice
"THE SECOND OPINION" wrote:
> In my opinion The tulip is the best steak place in Toronto for the money
I don't usually eat lots of meat. I'm a seafood fanatic, though. However, I
thought I would give a thumbs up to Chicago's burgers. Still excellent and
with the very best fries I've had in ages.
Janice aka Calamity!
Ian
<seco...@attcanada.ca> wrote:
Dimitri,
I have frequently ordered the steaks at O Farol (which I believe is
the right spelling). They come in two sizes, I usually order the
small which is still a lot of food. They come with an optional fried
egg on top, which is perhaps over the top cholesterol-wise but which I
like. Apparently this is a common style in Latin America, probably a
Brazilian influence. It's not the same kind of "marbled" steak
you'd get at a top steak house, but I like it. Marinated (I believe),
served with new potatoes, olives, etc. I note that
there is a Portuguese steak house right next door, which I plan to
try at some point, although it seems a lot less popular than O Farol.
By the way the place is closed Mondays, and is often packed, a
ten-fifteen minute wait is not uncommon. They show soccer games on
a large screen tv. They also host wedding parties, on those nights
the wait for a table is even longer. The waitresses are very
friendly, if a little overworked at times. The Portuguese beer (two
kinds) is great, and the coffee is way above typical Toronto
restaurant quality.
I have also had the roast chicken, which I like, again the portions
are enormous.
Ian
......
Ian
<seco...@attcanada.ca> wrote:
O Farol followup:
Slight correction to my earlier post: I think the steak comes with
french fries, the roast chicken comes with the new pototoes (and
rice). Also,
sometimes if you get to the place late, they actually run out of
steak! The menu is hand written and they cross out the items they've
run out of. So get there early for the best choice.
Ian
THE SECOND OPINION
Could you give us an idea of rough number of ounces of meat and the price.
DIMITRI
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Erik T
experience. As for Ruth's Chris Steakhouse, I believe the potato is about
6-8$ extra. That rubs me the wrong way on principle, I know their schtick
is one buys the steak which is priced as a masterfully prepared hunk of
meat, but if one is coughing up dozens of dollars and up for a plate of
food, a few friggin' potatos should be on the house, and two people
dropping 100$ or more on a low-booze or no0booze dinner shouldn't leave the
establishment craving more food. Just my opinion.... /Erik
Erik T
put me off ordering more...
texsq...@hotmail.com
Kirk Belanger <kbe...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<3B23A493...@netscape.net>...
> Had a meal here last week. And that's the best I can call it, a meal.
> I recalled a huge advertising campaign they launched about a year ago
> raving about their steaks at an affordable price. While the garlic bread
> served before the meal was OK, the salad was very large, but the steak,
> pitiful.
Their ad campaign was akin to McDonald's saying "since we opened a
location in the same city as Scaramouche, we're just as good as them
but at 10% of the price". I saw right through it and laughed.
> The steak was not as marbelized as you would expect from a primarily
> steakhouse venue.
They probably bought the steaks out of the No Frills freezer and
they're quickly defrosted to order in the microwave... last time there
was a Bifthque discussion in here the consensus was the steaks were
watery.
In fact, this experience reminded me of the old Steak
> n' Burger restaurants that used to populate the city. With one
> exception, the service was better at the Steak n' Burger.
> In this case, they "Sold-The-Sizzle" and not the steak......
I would say Biftheque is The Keg trying to act like they're Ruth's
Chris. At least The Keg's advertising is honest about what they are.
Given what I've heard about Steak n' Burger I'm glad I've never been
to one before they went out of business...
> Aside: I will be going to Ruth's Chris this week. Anybody tried this
> restaurant yet?
Yes I have, and I can almost guarantee you will want to return.
Granted, I haven't been to any of the other legitimate steakhouses in
town. How does Ruth's compare with Hy's, Morton's, Harbour Sixty,
Tulip, Barberians, etc?
Aside for everybody else -- definitely go to the Ruth's Chris Toronto
web site www.ruthschris-toronto.com and fill out the "Birthday Club"
form. On your birthday (early enough that it makes it on time)
they'll mail you a voucher for free desserts for two. Not a bad deal
given that their desserts run about $8 each. No I don't work for them
:-)
Ian
I'd say the small steak was around 9-10 oz, I think around $11. The
large steak has to be at least 14 oz, not sure of the price but
definitely not over $14. Have never been hungry enough to order it.
BTW I returned to the Wheat Sheaf last night, had the filet of sole.
It was good, but I was still hungry afterwards. That never happens at
O Farol. They have a new strongly flavoured British beer on tap
called Tetleys which is decent.
Ian
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:18:53 -0400, "THE SECOND OPINION"
Food Fight
>
> Kirk Belanger <kbe...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<3B23A493...@netscape.net>...
> >
> > n' Burger restaurants that used to populate the city. With one
> > exception, the service was better at the Steak n' Burger.
> > In this case, they "Sold-The-Sizzle" and not the steak......
>
> to one before they went out of business...
I miss Steak 'n' Burger. I used to go to the one in Sherway Gardens a
long time ago. However, when I was in Niagara Falls, Ontario last summer
I saw a Steak 'n' Burger restaurant alive and well on the east side of
Clifton Hill, just north of the Falls. Niagara Falls seems to be a chain
restaurant graveyard -- it's their last stop before they retreat back
into the United States. Up till two years ago, Ponderosa still had a
store there. Now I have to go over to Niagara Falls, NY to get my
Ponderosa fix.
> > Aside: I will be going to Ruth's Chris this week. Anybody tried this
> > restaurant yet?
>
> Yes I have, and I can almost guarantee you will want to return.
> Granted, I haven't been to any of the other legitimate steakhouses in
> town. How does Ruth's compare with Hy's, Morton's, Harbour Sixty,
> Tulip, Barberians, etc?
Speaking of steaks and the States, I like my steaks BIG -- like only the
Americans can serve them! Has anyone ever had a 64 ounce steak before? I
had one a few years ago at the Friar's Table in Niagara Falls, NY.
Yowza!
A little closer to home, I like the filet mignon at Black Angus on the
south side of Bloor Street West, just east of Islington.
-- Food Fight, who's known for being a jerk
Hownow
<food....@my.place.now> wrote:
> texsq...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Kirk Belanger <kbe...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> > news:<3B23A493...@netscape.net>...
> > >
> > > In fact, this experience reminded me of the old Steak
> > > n' Burger restaurants that used to populate the city. With one
> > > exception, the service was better at the Steak n' Burger.
> > > In this case, they "Sold-The-Sizzle" and not the steak......
> >
> > Given what I've heard about Steak n' Burger I'm glad I've never been
> > to one before they went out of business...
>
> I miss Steak 'n' Burger. I used to go to the one in Sherway Gardens a
> long time ago. However, when I was in Niagara Falls, Ontario last summer
> I saw a Steak 'n' Burger restaurant alive and well on the east side of
> Clifton Hill, just north of the Falls. Niagara Falls seems to be a chain
> restaurant graveyard -- it's their last stop before they retreat back
> into the United States. Up till two years ago, Ponderosa still had a
> store there. Now I have to go over to Niagara Falls, NY to get my
> Ponderosa fix.
>
It didn't help the Ponderosa image when Lorne Greene died.
A number of those steak joints popped up all around the same time with
cheap steak that is basically beef right off the range that bypasses
expensive fattening up and marbling in feedlots. Somebody had invented
chemical tenderizing machines that jab the meat with syringes for
immediate enzyme tenderizing and aging.
Not too many years ago, -- and maybe still -- all the top steak in
Canadian restaurants came from the U.S. The States had a further
grading to a really top choice category that was a step beyond the
highest Canadian rating.
And, of course, the better spots make use of natural aging rooms ... as
I presume should be happening at Ruth Chris.
> > > Aside: I will be going to Ruth's Chris this week. Anybody tried this
> > > restaurant yet?
> >
> > Yes I have, and I can almost guarantee you will want to return.
> > Granted, I haven't been to any of the other legitimate steakhouses in
> > town. How does Ruth's compare with Hy's, Morton's, Harbour Sixty,
> > Tulip, Barberians, etc?
>
> Speaking of steaks and the States, I like my steaks BIG -- like only the
> Americans can serve them! Has anyone ever had a 64 ounce steak before? I
> had one a few years ago at the Friar's Table in Niagara Falls, NY.
> Yowza!
>
I'd like to try one of those 64-ouncers but then I'd likely die at the
table and Homer Simpson would drive off with my rig
- hm
texsq...@hotmail.com
> I miss Steak 'n' Burger. I used to go to the one in Sherway Gardens a
> long time ago. However, when I was in Niagara Falls, Ontario last summer
> I saw a Steak 'n' Burger restaurant alive and well on the east side of
> Clifton Hill, just north of the Falls. Niagara Falls seems to be a chain
> restaurant graveyard -- it's their last stop before they retreat back
> into the United States. Up till two years ago, Ponderosa still had a
> store there. Now I have to go over to Niagara Falls, NY to get my
> Ponderosa fix.
Is Steak n' Burger a clone of the U.S. chain Steak 'n Shake? I have
never been to either but I did see a lot of SnS outlets when south of
the border.
> Speaking of steaks and the States, I like my steaks BIG -- like only the
> Americans can serve them! Has anyone ever had a 64 ounce steak before? I
> had one a few years ago at the Friar's Table in Niagara Falls, NY.
> Yowza!
I like my steaks big but the standard 12-14 ounce servings dished out
by Ruth's Chris are ample for me :-)
With U.S. chains in mind, anybody here looking forward to Krispy Kreme
as much as I am?
HG
Kirk Belanger
HG wrote:
>
>
> Ruth's Chris makes amazing steaks - I haven't had a better steak in Toronto.
>
Oh! MY! Gawd!
I had the New York (nearly got the Porterhouse for Two) at Ruth's Chris last
night and it was out of this world. Yes, the prices were equally outstanding ;-)
$180.00 for dinner with wine, for two. There is no doubt what a well marbelized,
never frozen and properly cooked piece of steak can do for a meal.
I have to ask, why can't we raise beef like that here in Canada?
I won't eat here all the time, but when I want a treat, this is the place for
us.
The garlic mashed spuds were great even though they were about an extra $8.00
Bring your corporate credit card and enjoy.......
Kirk
HG
Next time get the creme brule for dessert.
The only time I've had steak better than Ruth's Chris was at a place called
Charley's Steakhouse in Kissimmee, Florida. They cook their bovine over oak
and orangewood giving it a unique woody flavour. Weird, wild stuff.
Pat and Ash
> Next time get the creme brule for dessert.
Try the creme brule at Verveine (Queen East, just east of Pape)
Yummmmmm!
...pat.
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Kirk Belanger <kbe...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<3B27E356...@netscape.net>...
> HG wrote:
> > Ruth's Chris makes amazing steaks - I haven't had a better steak in Toronto.
> >
>
> Oh! MY! Gawd!
> I had the New York (nearly got the Porterhouse for Two) at Ruth's Chris last
> night and it was out of this world.
I'm glad you enjoyed yourself. I usually get the filet (not the petit
one!) and I always skip the appetizers since the steak is so huge.
Yes, the prices were equally outstanding ;-)
> $180.00 for dinner with wine, for two. There is no doubt what a well marbelized,
> never frozen and properly cooked piece of steak can do for a meal.
> I have to ask, why can't we raise beef like that here in Canada?
It's because (as another poster pointed out) they have a higher grade
of beef than we do. No Canadian cut compares to U.S. Prime. Our best
is about at par with U.S. Choice which you can get at any supermarket.
Which is why Biftheque or the Keg (which use Canadian beef) can never
match it. That and the small issue of the 1800 degree broiler and
serving it sizzling in a pool of butter...
> I won't eat here all the time, but when I want a treat, this is the place for
> us.
I only treat myself once a year to it; I took my fiancee there for her
birthday (that's when we used the dessert for 2 voucher!) this year.
> The garlic mashed spuds were great even though they were about an extra $8.00
> Bring your corporate credit card and enjoy.......
I prefer to get the baked potato (huge baseball-sized guys); I did try
the scallopped potatoes au gratin one time and wasn't impressed. The
consensus is that their steaks kick ass but their sides need work.
texsq...@hotmail.com
Kennedy at the ROM and Auberge du Pommier (Yonge south of 401).
Auberge is very good bang for your buck; downtown quality but a tad
cheaper because it's not a high rent district.
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Janice
"HG" <ganj...@sprint.ca>
> > With U.S. chains in mind, anybody here looking forward to Krispy Kreme
> > as much as I am?
>
> Yup - me...
Those donuts didn't seem so special to me. What am I missing?
Janice aka Calamity!
Janice
>
> > Next time get the creme brule for dessert.
>
> Try the creme brule at Verveine (Queen East, just east of Pape)
>
> Yummmmmm!
Or the one at La Bodega on Baldwin. You really have to crack the top.
Jan
Mirek Kotisa
Mirek
Brian and Carol
where everything is included with the price of your steak, ribs, lobster, or
whatever entrée you order. I've noticed they are not mentioned in any of
the discussion regarding steak.
Thanks.
Carol
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ago and found them the same as any other cake donut. Not sure what all the
hype is about.
Darren
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How anybody can say that Krispy Kreme are "the same as any other cake
donut" is beyond me. Did you get them fresh out of the fryer with the
sugar still sticky and dripping on them? You probably either 1-got
some very stale old ones from a gas station, or 2-got one of their
cake varieties. Next time get the Original Glazed ones hot out of the
fryer (the "Hot Doughnuts Now" neon sign out front is lit when the
machine is going).
But even then I still say day-old Krispy Kreme beats "fresh" Toronto
donuts. Getting them fresh out of the fryer with the hot sticky glaze
on it, now that is a heavenly experience indeed.
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> I would be very interested in hearing what everyone thinks of Carman's,
> where everything is included with the price of your steak, ribs, lobster, or
> whatever entrée you order. I've noticed they are not mentioned in any of
> the discussion regarding steak.
Hi there Brian and Carol:
Never been there so I'll go to other sources. For the record, Toronto
Life's reviewer is biased against steakhouses and always rates them
less stars than other cuisines.
Zagat Survey says:
Food 21/30
Decor 20/30
Service 20/30
Price per person for dinner $55
"You can smell garlic from the sidewalk" as you approach this
41-year-old steakhouse in a vintage home Downtown; once seated
(preferably near a fireplace), expect to find "old-fashioned",
"talkative" waiters delivering "mammoth" sirloins and affordable wines
to a clubby, older crowd.
Toronto Life (James Chatto) says:
[2 stars]
Some things never change—at Carman’s, they like it that
way. Lighting is dim, oil paintings are heavy, and overstuffed
armchairs are mighty comfortable; someone is tickling the ivories, and
all is well with the world. Starters include fresh-tasting
“extra” jumbo shrimp cocktail with a dipping sauce that is
bog standard. Steak is the unimpeachable king, of course, but
it’s the “stinking rose” that is the jewel in the
crown: both the 12-ounce thick-cut filet mignon ($38.50) and 16-ounce
broiled rib steak ($36.50) arrive still crackling, juices stewing in
garlic. All main courses include nine items at no extra charge: garlic
bread, baked potato or rice pilaf, dill pickles, cottage cheese,
olives, peppers, tzatziki, a mini-dessert, coffee or tea. The wine
list is a rags-to-riches affair. Service is crisp, restrained,
deferential.
Chef: Thanos Karamanos
Dinner for two $125.00
Jahesh
2 months ago. I've almost always had the Chateaubriand for 2, and I've
always thought their steaks to be flavourful (I like the garlic),
extremely tender, and good value. It is a rather stodgy, old fashioned
place, with a minimal wine list. I rarely have appetisers there, as the
steaks come with a forgettable salad, excellent olives, good garlic
bread with great tzatziki, pickles, peppers, etc. I guess that's how
steak was served in days of yore, and it's an altogether pleasant way
for them to be served now.
The service has always been friendly and accommodating. I think every
member of their wait staff has been there for decades.
I think it's a charming place, with great slabs of beef. Maybe Ruth's
Chris has them beat on the quality of the beef, but I think it's really
close. All in all, I've never been disappointed. I might just be there
tomorrow.
C.
Hownow
<texsq...@hotmail.com> wrote:
One of the great restaurant feuds in the city was the Greek-born
Arthur Carman versus the Armenian-rooted Harry Barberien -- mainly
because at one tme they were really the only two steakhouses worth
visiting in Toronto.
Arthur always accused Harry of instigating residents on Alexander
Street to lay complaints about smoke and smell coming from Carman's.
They both, at one time, charcoal grilled their steaks until some
medical report came out that charcoaling was suspected of causing heart
problems.
That "smelling garlic" line for the zagat review is quite old and a
cliche ... they cut back on the garlic many, many years ago.
Most of the steak houses that sprung up in the city in the late 1960s
and 1970s have their roots back to former waiters at Carman's -- Arthur
sponsored a number of Greek immigrants to work there and, I think
bankrolled some into their own restaurants.
The only differences among all those suburban flash steak houses are
the historicalsounding names they put up on the sign -- menus and
cookery are pretty well all the same.
Harry Barberien came out of Brantford, I believe, and for a long-time
operated the cookhouse on the travelling Conklin Shows carnival ...
where a lot of steak was served. Methinks he was inspired into the
steak house business by the success of Hy Eisenstadt, whose Hy's in
Calgary was one of the first in Canada, going back to the 1950s when
there was no booze but people brought in their own under the table --
and if you didn't bring it there was someone there who could get it for
you in a few minutes.
And that reminds me:
In Calgary in the days before licensed restaurants or bars there was a
late-night kind of upscale Chinese restaurant called The Silver Dragon
(great butterfly shrimp) and the story was that you went in and asked
for "Chinese Tea" and that meant you wanted a bottle of rye brought to
the table. (All bootleg booze in the West was rye.)
I went one night and asked for "Chinese Tea!"
And that's what I got -- a pot of tea.
"No," I said. "I want "Chinese Tea!" emphasizing my words and giving
him my best conspiratorial look.
"What is it you want?"
"I want a bottle of whisky."
"Oh ... you should have said so."
He came back in a few moments with a twenty-sixer. About ten dollars as
I remember.
So screw code words. Ask and you shall receive.
- hm
- hm
Will Halina
Best creme brule I've had is at LA PETITE FRANCE - Bloor & Islington
Will
Leatrice Spevack
tons of knick-knacks, dark, lots of red and wood. But I love that. The
ambience is very warm and the steaks are terrific. Don't fill up on all
the free greek-style goodies though, as tempting as they are. Save your
stomach for the steak. Old fashioned service. Love it.
Leatrice
Brian and Carol (brian...@home.com) wrote:
: I would be very interested in hearing what everyone thinks of Carman's,
: Thanks.
: Carol
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thought Carman's should let you eat your meal over two evenings...one for
the 'free' appetizers, and the next for the entree :>) I always order their
rib appetizer (nice and crunchy!), which makes it even more difficult to get
through the main course! Brian orders the lobster, and always ends up
bringing one home.
Carol
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more than $150 for a simple steak dinner. I gagged when I first saw
the menu prices. The steak items are between $30-$90, but does not
come with anything. You have to pay at least $6 for a small side
dish.
The few good things were the following:
- the steak was delicious, but it was nowhere worth paying more than
$150 for.
- if it is your birthday, you get a free dessert with an inscription.
You also get a free digital photo taken, which is given to you as a
card. With the money you spend, they should give you the digital
camera!
- parking was free at the Toronto Hilton. The parking entrance is
hidden near the hotel entrance. Bring your stub to the restaurant
front desk for validation.
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HG
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> Ruth's Chris Steakhouse has rip-off prices. My companion and I paid
> more than $150 for a simple steak dinner. I gagged when I first saw
> the menu prices. The steak items are between $30-$90, but does not
> come with anything. You have to pay at least $6 for a small side
> dish.
Hey - you gotta pay for good bovine!