butter tarts
Stewart Mason
tor.pissing.contest (did it ever occur to either of you that none of the
grownups here give a damn who Dennis Hoy or Chuck Kohlenberg are or
which of these little boys has the larger penis, which seems to be the
subtext of this particular little exhibitionistic spat?), I have a
question: I realize that it's the non-traditional version, but I prefer
butter tarts that don't have raisins and nuts in them. The problem is,
it can be hard to find them in Toronto. Second Cup often has plain
butter tarts, and they're okay, but I'd like to find a different source
for them when I go up for the festival in a couple of weeks. So where
can I find really good (and preferably plain, though I'll eat the others
if I have to) butter tarts in downtown Toronto?
Butter tarts are not quite as sui generis as Canadians think, by the way
-- the fruit and nut-less version is nearly the same as a Texas delicacy
which I grew up on called buttermilk pie.
Stewart
Norm Soley
> The problem is,
> it can be hard to find them in Toronto. Second Cup often has plain
> butter tarts, and they're okay, but I'd like to find a different source
> for them when I go up for the festival in a couple of weeks. So where
> can I find really good (and preferably plain, though I'll eat the others
> if I have to) butter tarts in downtown Toronto?
This doesn't help you exactly as the location does not meet your
criteria. They sell really good, raisin and nutless "runny butter tarts"
at Chepaks farm stand on Birchmount between Sheppard and
Huntingwood.
> Butter tarts are not quite as sui generis as Canadians think, by the way
> -- the fruit and nut-less version is nearly the same as a Texas delicacy
> which I grew up on called buttermilk pie.
and Quebecers call it sugar pie
Billl Ing
>criteria. They sell really good, raisin and nutless "runny butter tarts"
>at Chepaks farm stand on Birchmount between Sheppard and
>Huntingwood.
My fiance is a butter tart freak though I can't say that I have much
of an opinion on them either way. I'd guess that any place with a
good scottish population, say Uxbridge or Fergus would probably lead
you to a large variety of those things.
>> Butter tarts are not quite as sui generis as Canadians think, by the way
>> -- the fruit and nut-less version is nearly the same as a Texas delicacy
>> which I grew up on called buttermilk pie.
>
>and Quebecers call it sugar pie
Even better from the Charlevoix area is the Rosana pie...
Cheers
Jim Butterfield
: .... So where
: can I find really good (and preferably plain, though I'll eat the others
: if I have to) butter tarts in downtown Toronto?
In downtown Toronto, but off most people's beaten track: There's NOTHING
to compare with the butter tarts served in the Barrister's Restaurant of
Osgood Hall. NOTHING. You can get 'em to take out, too.
: Butter tarts are not quite as sui generis as Canadians think, by the way
: -- the fruit and nut-less version is nearly the same as a Texas delicacy
: which I grew up on called buttermilk pie.
.. and a close cousin to Pecan Pie from the same area. And also similar
to Tarte Au Sucre as found in Quebec. I suspect that there are other
similar dishes.
But perhaps there's magic in the name. The words "butter tarts" are
recognized in all parts of Canada, and represent essentially the same
item. Ask for 'em anywhere in Canada; but, ten feet across the border,
nobody knows what the heck they are.
We have regional dishes across Canada, but this is about the only item
that exists (under that name) everywhere in the country and nowhere
outside it.
--Jim
Golan Klinger
> There's NOTHING to compare with the butter tarts served in the
> Barrister's Restaurant of Osgood Hall. NOTHING. You can get 'em to
> take out, too.
Shocking but true.
> But perhaps there's magic in the name.
No, there's butter in the name. :) (I'll explain this below.)
> The words "butter tarts" are recognized in all parts of Canada, and
> represent essentially the same item. Ask for 'em anywhere in Canada;
> but, ten feet across the border, nobody knows what the heck they are.
We've had more than a few discussions here over the years about
what constitutes the canonical Canadian food and the consensus seems to be
that butter tarts is it. Our beloved tarts can be had from coast to coast
and like so many things Canadian, the Yanks haven't a clue what they are.
For fun, go into a restaurant in the US and ask for tea and a butter tart.
You'll get a glass of iced tea and blank look (and perhaps a joke about
your being "ooot and abooot").
As for the butter comment, that too is a Canadian thing. I had a
friend visit from the US recently and she was shocked to see President's
Choice cookies bragging about how much butter they had in them. She told
me that nobody in the US would buy a food prodcut with the word butter on
the box. She joked that the package may as well say, "Now contains more
cynanide!" It seems Americans are a little nervous about the butter, what
with everyone getting heart disease. Go figure.
God, I love Canada.
PS- For those keeping track, the second place finisher behind the butter
tart was poutine (yet more proof of our reckless abandon when it comes
to health matters) and third place was the humble TimBit.
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Stewart Mason
> We've had more than a few discussions here over the years about
> what constitutes the canonical Canadian food and the consensus seems to be
> that butter tarts is it. Our beloved tarts can be had from coast to coast
> and like so many things Canadian, the Yanks haven't a clue what they are.
> For fun, go into a restaurant in the US and ask for tea and a butter tart.
> You'll get a glass of iced tea and blank look (and perhaps a joke about
> your being "ooot and abooot").
Actually, as I said when I started this thread, the reason I love butter
tarts is that they're a miniature version of a dessert I loved growing
up in Texas called buttermilk pie. In other parts of the southern US,
this same dessert is called Jeff Davis pie. Many areas of the US have
the item, just in a different size and under different names.
> As for the butter comment, that too is a Canadian thing. I had a
> friend visit from the US recently and she was shocked to see President's
> Choice cookies bragging about how much butter they had in them. She told
> me that nobody in the US would buy a food prodcut with the word butter on
> the box. She joked that the package may as well say, "Now contains more
> cynanide!" It seems Americans are a little nervous about the butter, what
> with everyone getting heart disease. Go figure.
That's odd...while President's Choice did start at Loblaw, many US
supermarket chains now carry the products (here in New Mexico, you can
find them at both Smith's And Furrs), including the cookies, complete
with the prominent declaration of whatever the percentage of butter is.
Actually, the PC cookies I really love are the sandwich cremes with the
jam on top.
> PS- For those keeping track, the second place finisher behind the butter
> tart was poutine (yet more proof of our reckless abandon when it comes
> to health matters) and third place was the humble TimBit.
Admittedly, yeah, we Merkins are clueless about TimBits, and I wish I
could convince one of my local diners to add poutine to the menu. You
occasionally see, mostly at old-fashioned diners (think The Mars), an
item under the distinctly unappetizing name of "wets," which are fries
topped with either brown or cream gravy, but nobody's gone to the
logical step of adding cheese curds yet...
Stewart
Janice Pearson
>Just stop in at a Ziggy's/Loblaw's grocery store. The Farmer's Market Butter
>Tarts (with or without raisins) are very good and only about $3.49 for a
>six-pack. There's a Ziggy's at Yonge and St. Clair, I think another just north
>of Cumberland on Yonge and the big new Loblaw's at the foot of Jarvis, about 2
>blocks east of Yonge.
My favourite are still the ubiquitous Flamingo that you can buy in a
two-pack in any convenience store. Other than that, Grannies. I like
the old kind, not so much the new fangled ones. But I am partial to
the Chocolate butter tart at Futures.
Janice aka Calamity!
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John Manzo
Ted Richards <tedri...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Jim Butterfield wrote:
>
> > We have regional dishes across Canada, but this is about the only item
> > that exists (under that name) everywhere in the country and nowhere
> > outside it.
>
> Nanaimo bars?
>
> --
> Ted Richards tedri...@home.com
Norm Soley
> and bloody caesars.
Now becoming more known in the US, used to be asking for a bloody ceaser got you a blank
stare, but recently I have been with people who successfully ordered them in NYC and Atlanta.
Stewart Mason
>
> Just stop in at a Ziggy's/Loblaw's grocery store. The Farmer's Market Butter
> Tarts (with or without raisins) are very good and only about $3.49 for a
> six-pack. There's a Ziggy's at Yonge and St. Clair, I think another just north
> of Cumberland on Yonge and the big new Loblaw's at the foot of Jarvis, about 2
> blocks east of Yonge.
Thanks! I've seen those in Loblaw's, but I had a nasty experience with
packaged butter tarts once (admittedly, I only bought them because the
brand name, Flamingo, is the same as the name of the record label I own,
but they were still icky) and I was skittish about trying them. Best of
all, there's a Loblaw's just down the block from our hotel!
Stewart
Peter Dougherty
>Jim Butterfield wrote:
>
>> There's NOTHING to compare with the butter tarts served in the
>> Barrister's Restaurant of Osgood Hall. NOTHING. You can get 'em to
>> take out, too.
I read this thread and was amazed that nobody --but NOBODY-- managed
to include the best source of buttertarts in Southern Ontario--the
little restaurant at Lindsay airport! They homebrew them there daily,
and pilots fly in from miles around to snag a few. When I was
finishing off my private license a couple of months back I ran the
Butter Tart Express and had all the guys at Buttonville swoop down on
me as soon as I got back.
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> Okay, in an effort to keep this otherwise useful group from turning into
> tor.pissing.contest (did it ever occur to either of you that none of the
> grownups here give a damn who Dennis Hoy or Chuck Kohlenberg are or
> which of these little boys has the larger penis, which seems to be the
> subtext of this particular little exhibitionistic spat?), I have a
> question: I realize that it's the non-traditional version, but I prefer
> butter tarts, and they're okay, but I'd like to find a different source
> if I have to) butter tarts in downtown Toronto?
>
> -- the fruit and nut-less version is nearly the same as a Texas delicacy
> which I grew up on called buttermilk pie.
>