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Ted/Edwin/Eadwine/Herendil
Mar 24, 2008, 8:07:28 PM3/24/08
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The two "major days" in LotR are of course 22 September and 25 March.
On 22 September TA 3001, Bilbo turned 111 and Frodo 31. Bilbo gave
Frodo the One Ring - a poisoned chalice gift if ever there was one,
although Bilbo presumably had no idea of that. On 25 March TA 3019 the
One Ring was finally destroyed. Seventeen and a half years, but the
Quest occupied only the last six months.
I haven't anything of special importance to add now. We have in the
past discussed the fact that 25 March is celebrated in the Roman
Catholic Church as the Feast of the Annunciation, and if you have any
favourite versions of the Magnificat (eg Bach's Magnificat in D) you
might like to play them. Not into Medieval, Renaissance or Baroque
music? Oh well ...
I was hoping to post today about a real life Quest, the tale of which
I had never heard until recently. It's interesting to compare this
with the Ring Quest or other Quests in fantasy. This Quest did have
some parallels with the Ring Quest in that people - ordinary people in
their way - undertook great and dangerous tasks to save the lives of
others, although their own lives had not been threatened (nor was the
end of civilisation - there was no "Dark Lord" that threatened to take
over the world, but the "force of evil" was dark enough), and more
than one "kind" worked side by side under extreme conditions. I here
refer to Men, Elves, Dwarves and Hobbits in LotR. In the real life
story there were just two "kinds". men and ... Unfortunately, real
life is not as "pure" as fantasy tends to be, and some of the events
were, I think, too "messy" to ever make it into fantasies. Indeed, it
is the fact that it is "real life" that makes the story so compelling.
There is a book. I will endeavour to read it soon. Then all will be
revealed. However, if you know, or think you know, what I'm referring
to, then feel free to post.
On 22 September TA 3001, Bilbo turned 111 and Frodo 31. Bilbo gave
Frodo the One Ring - a poisoned chalice gift if ever there was one,
although Bilbo presumably had no idea of that. On 25 March TA 3019 the
One Ring was finally destroyed. Seventeen and a half years, but the
Quest occupied only the last six months.
I haven't anything of special importance to add now. We have in the
past discussed the fact that 25 March is celebrated in the Roman
Catholic Church as the Feast of the Annunciation, and if you have any
favourite versions of the Magnificat (eg Bach's Magnificat in D) you
might like to play them. Not into Medieval, Renaissance or Baroque
music? Oh well ...
I was hoping to post today about a real life Quest, the tale of which
I had never heard until recently. It's interesting to compare this
with the Ring Quest or other Quests in fantasy. This Quest did have
some parallels with the Ring Quest in that people - ordinary people in
their way - undertook great and dangerous tasks to save the lives of
others, although their own lives had not been threatened (nor was the
end of civilisation - there was no "Dark Lord" that threatened to take
over the world, but the "force of evil" was dark enough), and more
than one "kind" worked side by side under extreme conditions. I here
refer to Men, Elves, Dwarves and Hobbits in LotR. In the real life
story there were just two "kinds". men and ... Unfortunately, real
life is not as "pure" as fantasy tends to be, and some of the events
were, I think, too "messy" to ever make it into fantasies. Indeed, it
is the fact that it is "real life" that makes the story so compelling.
There is a book. I will endeavour to read it soon. Then all will be
revealed. However, if you know, or think you know, what I'm referring
to, then feel free to post.
Michael
Mar 26, 2008, 6:42:29 AM3/26/08
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While JRRT was a devout Catholic, I have a suspicion that March 25th
was more symbolical to Tolkien because it coincided with the vernal
equinox, and at one point in our history, the beginning of a New
Year.
As for the 'real life' story, I have no clue. I am intrigued though.
On Mar 25, 11:07 am, "Ted/Edwin/Eadwine/Herendil"
was more symbolical to Tolkien because it coincided with the vernal
equinox, and at one point in our history, the beginning of a New
Year.
As for the 'real life' story, I have no clue. I am intrigued though.
On Mar 25, 11:07 am, "Ted/Edwin/Eadwine/Herendil"
Ted/Edwin/Eadwine/Herendil
Mar 26, 2008, 8:24:55 PM3/26/08
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Hi Michael,
True, and 22 September is the (northern hemisphere) autumnal equinox,
or close to it. I did note the fact that 25 March was the first day of
the year until the adoption of the Gregorian calendar. However there
is definitely some symbolic resemblance between the Annunciation and
the destruction of the Ruling Ring.
Regarding the real life "quest", I still haven't got "The Book" but I
might acquire it tomorrow. Two weeks ago I had a palm spike removed
from my finger. It was done by a specialist hand surgeon at Kareena (a
RHS hospital at Miranda. You probably know it well. I couldn't wait
for a public hospital operating theatre to be available and I'm fairly
well covered by MBF insurance). I have an appointment to see him
tomorrow at his Miranda rooms. His name is Dr Stuart Myers and he is
with Sydney Orthopedic Specialists. With a bit of luck I may be able
to get to Angus and Robertson or Dymocks in the city.
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True, and 22 September is the (northern hemisphere) autumnal equinox,
or close to it. I did note the fact that 25 March was the first day of
the year until the adoption of the Gregorian calendar. However there
is definitely some symbolic resemblance between the Annunciation and
the destruction of the Ruling Ring.
Regarding the real life "quest", I still haven't got "The Book" but I
might acquire it tomorrow. Two weeks ago I had a palm spike removed
from my finger. It was done by a specialist hand surgeon at Kareena (a
RHS hospital at Miranda. You probably know it well. I couldn't wait
for a public hospital operating theatre to be available and I'm fairly
well covered by MBF insurance). I have an appointment to see him
tomorrow at his Miranda rooms. His name is Dr Stuart Myers and he is
with Sydney Orthopedic Specialists. With a bit of luck I may be able
to get to Angus and Robertson or Dymocks in the city.
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Jeff Lynch
Mar 27, 2008, 1:25:50 AM3/27/08
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hi Ted....
Jeff here and I have an atricle(I think) in Tilkal.....re Christian
(and) other calendar dtaes re chaaaaaanges of ways of church(or othe)
times...I think that I called it...'Going on a Date.'
BOOM BOOM HOPE YA BLOODY HAND IS NOT BLOODY NOW
LOVE jEFF
Jeff here and I have an atricle(I think) in Tilkal.....re Christian
(and) other calendar dtaes re chaaaaaanges of ways of church(or othe)
times...I think that I called it...'Going on a Date.'
BOOM BOOM HOPE YA BLOODY HAND IS NOT BLOODY NOW
LOVE jEFF
Marayong
Mar 27, 2008, 2:00:27 AM3/27/08
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Jeff Lynch wrote:
> Jeff here and I have an atricle(I think) in Tilkal.....re Christian
> (and) other calendar dtaes re chaaaaaanges of ways of church(or othe)
> times...I think that I called it...'Going on a Date.'
> Jeff here and I have an atricle(I think) in Tilkal.....re Christian
> (and) other calendar dtaes re chaaaaaanges of ways of church(or othe)
> times...I think that I called it...'Going on a Date.'
No, not in Tilkal. :(
cheers,
Ye Editore
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Ted/Edwin/Eadwine/Herendil
Mar 29, 2008, 6:04:21 PM3/29/08
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Thanks for the empathy. The finger, though the splinter penetrated the
bone, is now well on the mend. Indeed I saw the surgeon last Friday
and he removed the stitches. I can now get it wet with no fear of
infection (but I still need to keep it covered).
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bone, is now well on the mend. Indeed I saw the surgeon last Friday
and he removed the stitches. I can now get it wet with no fear of
infection (but I still need to keep it covered).
Jeff Lynch
Mar 31, 2008, 10:15:19 PM3/31/08
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OH .I thaught it ws .......I will forward it after my operation.....
Jeff
Jeff
Marayong
Apr 1, 2008, 3:21:09 AM4/1/08
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G'day Jeff,
Ok. Good luck with the op.
cheers,
David
Ted/Edwin/Eadwine/Herendil
Apr 5, 2008, 8:21:29 PM4/5/08
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"The Book" I've been referring to was ordered and has arrived. I plan
to get it tomorrow. More details when I;ve read it.
to get it tomorrow. More details when I;ve read it.
Ted/Edwin/Eadwine/Herendil
Apr 7, 2008, 12:19:18 AM4/7/08
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Ted/Edwin/Eadwine/Herendil
Apr 8, 2008, 8:28:46 PM4/8/08
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Up to page 187. I should finish by tomorrow, then all will be
revealed.
revealed.
Ted/Edwin/Eadwine/Herendil
Apr 9, 2008, 4:18:45 AM4/9/08
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Finished. I'm gobsmacked! More as soon as I can write it.
Ted/Edwin/Eadwine/Herendil
Apr 9, 2008, 9:29:49 PM4/9/08
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Jeff Lynch
Apr 15, 2008, 1:37:58 AM4/15/08
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No need for luck mow David I am upp and away....down at Sydney Rd
again ' out of REhab yesterday
Ta Jeff
again ' out of REhab yesterday
Ta Jeff
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