Is it time to abandon ship?

[festicola]

Dear Google Group,

It's been a wonderfully organized 3 months with the free task manager
we all know and love. So intuitive, so fast, and so elegant. But the
latest site outage makes me wonder - am I relying too much on this
ephemeral site?

It's a great program and way more intuitive than Remember the Milk,
but it's also just a one man show. And that one man seems to be
focusing on his other projects, evidenced by quirky bugs, site
slowness, and random outages with no communication. Which makes me
wonder, will Todoist become his neglected lovechild? Will Armageddon
and chaos reign when the site takes an extended outage leaving
thousands without any idea what their @na p1 is???

I don't know. A service, even if offered free, needs to be reliable
to gain a loyal crowd and be trusted as your #1 task manager.

I've been trying to wean myself off Todoist and use RTM for the past
couple of days. But I'm banging my head against my keyboard trying to
remember all of its 50 shortcuts and arcane options spread over 5
different locations. What are you, an MMO?? Well RTM, you may be a
little chunky and not too pretty, but at least you have a forum, an
active blog, regular updates, and a good personality.

And Damn you Todoist! Why do you tease me with your rockin' body and
alluring mystique only to 404 dump me like cheap bourbon on Fat
Tuesday??

What's an anal-retentive taskmaster to do? Keep on chugging with the
hot neurotic chick or go with the stable BMI-challenged one??

Help!

Desperately seeking a long-term task managing relationship,
Cola

[todoornottodo]

Mine seems to work, but extremely slowly, and sometimes only after an
F5 refresh. I had the same problem about 5 weeks ago or so.

While one clearly can't work like that, I wonder if this doesn't sound
like a network problem rather than something amiss with the server or
program itself. What I'm saying: the problem might be out of Amir's
control.

I know this doesn't really add value to your bigger question, Cola,
but it may convince you to stick around through the lows of a
worthwhile long-term relationship. Of course, if we had a decent back-
up facility or the ability to work offline that would have been
great. Personally I make daily (or fairly regular) htm copies ("Save
Page as..") of all tasks as well as my default query - just in case.

[Jeroen Latour]

As for the backup, after the first outage I looked around and ran into
the following:
http://www.kinggary.com/tools/todoist-export.php

It was already listed on Todoist's What's New page, so semi-sactioned,
but there doesn't seem to be an import option. Still, you get a full
backup.

Hope this helps,

Jeroen

2008/7/3 todoornottodo <ber...@gmail.com>:

[festicola]

Thanks for the options and reading my rant. I like the 'Save as' Html
option, seems straightforward and doesn't rely on another online
service to backup my info. I'll give that a shot.

Cola

On Jul 3, 6:26 am, "Jeroen Latour" <f.j.lat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As for the backup, after the first outage I looked around and ran into
> the following:http://www.kinggary.com/tools/todoist-export.php
>
> It was already listed on Todoist's What's New page, so semi-sactioned,
> but there doesn't seem to be an import option. Still, you get a full
> backup.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Jeroen
>

> 2008/7/3 todoornottodo <berg...@gmail.com>:

[kebmo19]

agree, Cola, I'm cancelling my "premium" subscription. :(

[gpzbc]

I panicked when todoist went down because I realized how much I have
come to rely on it. So I went over to RTM to give it a whirl. They
have some great ideas. I LOVE the integration with gmail and
gcal.... but, RTM just seemed clunky. I was inadvertently editing
tasks and it has been rough. Overall, I like todoist so much more,
but I am a little scared too. perhaps I'll start doing the html
backups too.

[DivinoAG]

I'm not gonna say it's time to abandon ship. I've been using the
service faithfully for many months now, and this was the only hiccup
I've ever seen during that time. But that's not to say I'm not
worried.

I came to Todoist after a few weeks using RTM, and while that's a very
good service, it just doesn't do for me. They use a multi-dimensional
label-centric design that can be very powerful, but it takes more work
to wrap my head around it than I would like, and makes me feel like
I'm helping the tool organize my tasks, instead of the tool helping
me.

So far, I didn't find anything like Todoist, with its speed and great
hierarchy-centric design. So I'm kind stuck with it. Not that that's a
problem, if it works and evolves as needed.

Seeing Amir open that area on Uservoice really got me excited, because
I thought that meant he didn't forget about it. But it has been what,
a month and a half since he created that space? By coincidence that
must be the same time since his last post. I'm not expecting him to be
releasing new features every week (I don't even want him to, I'm with
the "keep it simple" group). But a little nod every once in a while
just to let us know the project is still alive would go a long way.

So no, I'm not abandoning ship. Todoist is still the best option out
there for me, and I would just go back using Google Notebook if I had
to leave since it's where I can create a similar structure (that is
actually what I was using daily before trying other tools and moving
on with Todoist).

[Up2Late]

I actually just dumped todoist for toodledo.

I originally picked todoist 'cause it and toodledo were the only ones
that supported sublist, and toodledo requires $15 per year to add this
feature.

$15 per year is sounding very resonable to me now, considering it's
not just a one man, sometimes sideproject, get to it when I get a
chance, operation.

It also has an iPhone app that supports it for offline use.

[gpzbc]

There seems to be a fair amount of development activity taking place
on Todoist. It is comforting and welcome. I'll still stick with
Todoist. The others just don't compare.