Church History-Introduction
Carlos
Introduction
I have decided to write an article on church history. It seems that to truly
understand how the church developed, and where it is heading, we should go to
the Book of Revelation. In Genesis it tells us how this mess started and in
Revelation it tells us how it will end. As we look in chapters one, two and
three we can see what is called the "church age".
Taking a look at some of the passages in chapters one, two and three it is
important that you remember something. Every verse in the Bible has three
applications.
1. Historical
2. Doctrinal
3. Inspirational
I will deal mostly with the Historical factors and how they coincide with what
the Scripture has to say.
The churches in chapters one, two and three of the Book of Revelation are no
exception. Historically speaking the message in chapter one, two and three is
addressed to local churches in 90 ad. in Asia Minor at the time John was held
prisoner on the Isle of Patmos.
Spiritually, the passages can apply to local churches, and they can be taught
as giving a history of the Church age from the first coming of Christ to the
Second Coming of Christ.
Doctrinally, when you get in the specific, absolute doctrinal meanings of the
chapters, the are almost sure to have Tribulation application.
The seven churches mentioned in the Book of Revelation are:
1. Ephesus- fully purposed
2. Smyrna- myrrh
3. Pergamos- much marriage
4. Thyatara- odor of affliction
5. Sardis- red ones
6. Philadelphia- brotherly love
7. Laodecia-civil rights
Were these the only seven churches? No there were other churches, but the Lord
chose these ones. Probably for there own characteristics.
A lot of people say that the Book of Revelation is a hard book to understand.
On the contrary it is a pretty easy book. The key to understanding the book is
that it was written for a special class of people. For those that are no
stranger to the Word of God, and that have a spiritual discernment and are not
carnally minded.
1 Corinthians 2:14 - But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit
of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because
they are spiritually discerned.
I like the Book of Revelation, especially the church period because it is the
place in history that we are living right now.I also like the Book of
Revelation, as a whole because it tells me how this mess is going to finish,
and that like in the old Westerns, the good guy, will win.
For those that are interested, my references for this study are, first and
foremost the Authorized Version of the Bible the King James 1611, the Catholic
Encyclopedia, the Book of Revelation by Clarence Larkins, Bookshelf 98, the
Compton Encyclopedia, and different historical web sites that I will mention as
the study progress.
I hope that you the reader enjoy this little study, and while you read the
material think about this.
If the Book of Revelation is right, (and I know it is), this church age is
almost gone. If the Book of Revelation is right, there is such thing as the
rapture. If the book of Revelation is right, those that have not accepted the
Lord Jesus Christ as their saviour will be left behind. Do you want to be left
behind?
Now ask yourself this question. If you were to die right now, car accident,
natural death, violent death, or just another statistic, where will you spend
the rest of eternity? If my Bible is right, (and I know it is), there is a
place call Hell just like there is a place called Heaven. If my Bible is right
Hell just like Heaven is eternal.
I understand that some of the folks in the Newsgroup can be pretty abrasive
when you express a question that challenges a denomination, but after all it is
your soul we are talking about here.
Any serious questions or concern can be addressed to TXHea...@aol.com. I will
be more than happy to answer any concerns.
Carlos D.Paniagua
Stephanie Rendino
Bruce wrote:
> Carlos wrote:
> > CHURCH HISTORY PART ONE
> > Introduction
> >I have decided to write an article on church history. It seems that to truly
> >understand how the church developed, and where it is heading, we should go to
> >the Book of Revelation. In Genesis it tells us how this mess started and in
> >Revelation it tells us how it will end.
>
> Church history? In Genesis and Revelations? Okay my friend...whatever you
> say...
He never is able to deal with that gap between the Ascension and 1611.
DrStrangelove
33 AD and 1611. Pretty funny.
Carlos wrote:
> CHURCH HISTORY PART ONE
> Introduction
Bruce
> CHURCH HISTORY PART ONE
> Introduction
>understand how the church developed, and where it is heading, we should go to
>the Book of Revelation. In Genesis it tells us how this mess started and in
>Revelation it tells us how it will end.
Church history? In Genesis and Revelations? Okay my friend...whatever you
say...
Peace,
Bruce
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"Peace begins with a smile."
- Mother Teresa of Calcutta
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cqabug
to the Gospel of Carlos". And if you are not an ordained minister,
proclaim yourself as one. That way you can put a stamp of authority on
your teachings. How about another protestant church? It has been done
before.
Ad majorem Dei gloriam,
Carlque
"I never spared heretics and have always done my utmost so that the enemies
of the Church should also be my enemies." (St. Jerome, 420 AD)
Carlos <txhea...@aol.com> wrote in article
<20000129170338...@ng-co1.aol.com>...
> CHURCH HISTORY PART ONE
> Introduction
> I have decided to write an article on church history. It seems that to
truly
> understand how the church developed, and where it is heading, we should
go to
> the Book of Revelation. In Genesis it tells us how this mess started and
in
Edward Curtis
cqabug stepped up to the podium and proclaimed:
> I've got another idea. Why not call your article "Church History According
> to the Gospel of Carlos". And if you are not an ordained minister,
> proclaim yourself as one. That way you can put a stamp of authority on
> your teachings. How about another protestant church? It has been done
> before.
>
> Ad majorem Dei gloriam,
>
> Carlque
>
> "I never spared heretics and have always done my utmost so that the enemies
> of the Church should also be my enemies." (St. Jerome, 420 AD)
>
>
> Carlos <txhea...@aol.com> wrote in article
> <20000129170338...@ng-co1.aol.com>...
> > CHURCH HISTORY PART ONE
>
<snipped>
--
Edward Curtis curtis at labyrinth dot net
"'How many roads must a man go down before he becomes a man?'
One! There is only one road a man must go down to become
a man, and that is Christ, who said, 'I am the Way.'" -- Pope
John Paul II, commenting on the rock song "Blowing In The Wind"
cqabug
Ad Jesum per Mariam,
Carlque
"I never spared heretics and have always done my utmost so that the enemies
of the Church should also be my enemies." (St. Jerome, 420 AD)
Edward Curtis <cur...@labyrinth.net> wrote in article
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Bruce
>He never is able to deal with that gap between the Ascension and 1611.
Bruce responded with a hearty LOL!!!
joelnicholaschua
the Church was God's plan since the beginning of time.
"Bruce" <bkla...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Carlos wrote:
> > CHURCH HISTORY PART ONE
> > Introduction
> >I have decided to write an article on church history. It seems that to
truly
> >understand how the church developed, and where it is heading, we should
go to
> >the Book of Revelation. In Genesis it tells us how this mess started and
in
> >Revelation it tells us how it will end.
>
> Church history? In Genesis and Revelations? Okay my friend...whatever
you
> say...
>
>
joelnicholaschua
faith a simple question. This article that Carlos posted is not
anti-Catholic in nature, as opposed to his other posts. So why are you
reacting so negatively to it? Just because it's from Carlos? If you'll
forgive me, I must say that's a little immature.
While his post may be fundamentally contrary to Catholic doctrine, it is not
anti-Catholic. Let us, in the spirit of compassion and understanding, read
and reflect on what Carlos has to say eventhough we know that it is not
authoritative in any way. Let's treat it as a simple reflection of a man
truely seeking God in his own way; even if we do not agree with it. We must
do this so that we can understand who our brother Carlos really is when he
is not attacking our Church. That is if we really care for him and want to
help him.
Praying 'Ut Unum Sint',
joel
"cqabug" <cqa...@idirect.com> wrote in message
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joelnicholaschua
faith a simple question. This article that Carlos posted is not
anti-Catholic in nature, as opposed to his other posts. So why are you
reacting so negatively to it? Just because it's from Carlos? If you'll
forgive me, I must say that's a little immature.
While his post may be fundamentally contrary to Catholic doctrine, it is not
anti-Catholic. Let us, in the spirit of compassion and understanding, read
and reflect on what Carlos has to say eventhough we know that it is not
authoritative in any way. Let's treat it as a simple reflection of a man
truely seeking God in his own way; even if we do not agree with it. We must
do this so that we can understand who our brother Carlos really is when he
is not attacking our Church. That is if we really care for him and want to
help him.
Praying 'Ut Unum Sint',
joel
"Carlos" <txhea...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> CHURCH HISTORY PART ONE
> Introduction
> I have decided to write an article on church history. It seems that to
truly
> understand how the church developed, and where it is heading, we should go
to
> the Book of Revelation. In Genesis it tells us how this mess started and
in
Timothy Consodine
Carlos wrote in message <20000129170338...@ng-co1.aol.com>...
> CHURCH HISTORY PART ONE
> Introduction
>I have decided to write an article on church history. It seems that to
truly
>understand how the church developed, and where it is heading, we should go
to
>the Book of Revelation. In Genesis it tells us how this mess started and in
>Revelation it tells us how it will end. As we look in chapters one, two and
>three we can see what is called the "church age".
>
>Taking a look at some of the passages in chapters one, two and three it is
>important that you remember something. Every verse in the Bible has three
>applications.
> 1. Historical
> 2. Doctrinal
> 3. Inspirational
>
>I will deal mostly with the Historical factors and how they coincide with
what
Can you explain why there are no witnesses to what you believe anywhere at
any point in history prior to the Protestant Reformation? (actually, what
you believe came several centuries after the Reformation)
Let's see what the Bible says about
-- Christ's Church would always be visible to the world:
Matt 5:14 "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be
hid. 15 Nor do men light a lamp and put it under a bushel, but on a stand,
and it gives light to all in the house."
-- Christ's Church would have started out very small and grown very, very
large:
Matt 13:31 Another parable he put before them, saying, "The kingdom of
heaven is like a grain of mustard seed which a man took and sowed in his
field; 32 it is the smallest of all seeds, but when it has grown it is the
greatest of shrubs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and
make nests in its branches."
-- Christ's Church would be found in every age, every nation and every
culture:
Matt 28:18 And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on
earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all
nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the
Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and
lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age."
-- Christ's Church would teach with the authority of Jesus Christ:
Matt 16:18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my
church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give
you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall
be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in
heaven.”
Matt 18:17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he
refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a
tax collector. 18 Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be
bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Luke 10:16 "He who hears you hears me [Jesus], and he who rejects you
rejects me [Jesus], and he who rejects me [Jesus] rejects him [God the
Father] who sent me."
-- His Church would be the pillar and bulwark of the truth:
1 Tim 3:15 if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the
household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and
bulwark of the truth.
John 14:18 "I will not leave you desolate; I will come to you. 19 Yet a
little while, and the world will see me no more, but you will see me;
because I live, you will live also. 20 In that day you will know that I am
in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.
John 14:25 “These things I have spoken to you, while I am still with you. 26
But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he
will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have
said to you.
John 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by
itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in
me. 5 I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in me, and I in
him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.
John 16:13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the
truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he
will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He
will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All
that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine
and declare it to you.
John 17:17 Sanctify them in the truth; thy word is truth. 18 As thou didst
send me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. 19 And for their
sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be consecrated in truth.
-- They would be one in doctrine, faith and worship:
Eph 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one
hope that belongs to your call, 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one
God and Father of us all, who is above all and through all and in all.
John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but they are in the world, and
I am coming to thee. Holy Father, keep them in thy name, which thou hast
given me, that they may be one, even as we are one.
John 17:22 The glory which thou hast given me I have given to them, that
they may be one even as we are one, 23 I in them and thou in me, that they
may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that thou hast sent me
and hast loved them even as thou hast loved me.24 Father, I desire that they
also, whom thou hast given me, may be with me where I am, to behold my glory
which thou hast given me in thy love for me before the foundation of the
world
The Bible says there would always be living witnesses to the true faith:
Acts 1:8 But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you;
and you shall be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria and
to the end of the earth.
. . .can you explain why there are witnesses to the Catholic faith going all
the way back to the Apostolic age, but there are no witnesses to what you
believe until some men started following their own literal interpretations
of an English translation of the Bible around 1800 years after Christ walked
the earth? And if yours is the true faith, how come it is found (primarily)
only in North America and Western Europe?
EPISTLE OF ST. IGNATIUS OF ANTIOCH
TO THE SMYRAEANS (107 A.D.)
CHAP. VIII.--LET NOTHING BE DONE WITHOUT THE BISHOP.
See that ye all follow the bishop, even as Christ Jesus does the Father, and
the presbytery as ye would the apostles. Do ye also reverence the deacons,
as those that carry out[through their office] the appointment of God.
Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let
that be deemed a proper(18) Eucharist, which is[administered] either by the
bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall
appear, there let the multitude[of the people] also be; by the bishop, or by
one to whom he has entrusted it.
Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude[of the people]
also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.
It is not lawful without the bishop either to baptize or to celebrate a
[Eucharist]; but whatsoever he shall approve of, that is also pleasing to
God, so that everything that is done may be secure and valid.(2) even as
where Christ is, there does all the heavenly host stand by, waiting upon Him
as the Chief Captain of the Lord's might, and the Governor of every
intelligent nature.
It is not lawful without the bishop either to baptize, or to offer, or to
present sacrifice, or to celebrate a [Eucharist].(1) But that which seems
good to him, is also well-pleasing to God, that everything ye do may be
secure and valid.
St. Irenaeus, Bishop of Lyons, (189 A.D.)
AGAINST HERESIES -- BOOK III
CHAP. III.--A REFUTATION OF THE HERETICS, FROM THE FACT THAT, IN THE VARIOUS
CHURCHES, A PERPETUAL SUCCESSION OF BISHOPS WAS KEPT UP.
1. It is within the power of all, therefore, in every Church, who may wish
to see the truth, to contemplate clearly the tradition of the apostles
manifested throughout the whole world; and we are in a position to reckon up
those who were by the apostles instituted bishops in the Churches, and [to
demonstrate] the succession of these men to our own times; those who neither
taught nor knew of anything like what these [heretics] rave about. For if
the apostles had known hidden mysteries, which they were in the habit of
imparting to "the perfect" apart and privily from the rest, they would have
delivered them especially to those to whom they were also committing the
Churches themselves. For they were desirous that these men should be very
perfect and blameless in all things, whom also they were leaving behind as
their successors, delivering up their own place of government to these men;
which men, if they discharged their functions honestly, would be a great
boon [to the Church], but if they should fall away, the direst calamity.
2. Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such a volume as this, to
reckon up the successions of all the Churches, we do put to confusion all
those who, in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing, by
vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized
meetings; [we do this, I say,] by indicating that tradition derived from the
apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church
founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and
Paul; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down
to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter
of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of
its pre- eminent authority,(3) that is, the faithful everywhere, inasmuch as
the apostolical tradition has been preserved continuously by those [faithful
men] who exist everywhere.
3. The blessed apostles, then, having founded and built up the Church,
committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate. Of this
Linus, Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. To him succeeded
Anacletus; and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was
allotted the bishopric. This man, as he had seen the blessed apostles, and
had been conversant with them, might be said to have the preaching of the
apostles still echoing [in his ears], and their traditions before his eyes.
Nor was he alone [in this], for there were many still remaining who had
received instructions from the apostles. In the time of this Clement, no
small dissension having occurred among the brethren at Corinth, the Church
in Rome despatched a most powerful letter to the Corinthians, exhorting them
to peace, renewing their faith, and declaring the tradition which it had
lately received from the apostles, proclaiming the one God, omnipotent, the
Maker of heaven and earth, the Creator of man, who brought on the deluge,
and called Abraham, who led the people from the land of Egypt, spake with
Moses, set forth the law, sent the prophets, and who has prepared fire for
the devil and his angels. From this document, whosoever chooses to do so,
may learn that He, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, was preached by the
Churches, and may also understand the apostolical tradition of the Church,
since this Epistle is of older date than these men who are now propagating
falsehood, and who conjure into existence another god beyond the Creator and
the Maker of all existing things. To this Clement there succeeded Evaristus.
Alexander followed Evaristus; then, sixth from the apostles, Sixtus was
appointed; after him, Telephorus, who was gloriously martyred; then Hyginus;
after him, Pius; then after him, Anicetus. Sorer having succeeded Anicetus,
Eleutherius does now, in the twelfth place from the apostles, hold the
inheritance of the episcopate. In this order, and by this succession, the
ecclesiastical tradition from the apostles, and the preaching of the truth,
have come down to us. And this is most abundant proof that there is one and
the same vivifying faith, which has been preserved in the Church from the
apostles until now, and handed down in truth. […]
EUSEBIUS OF CAESAREA CHURCH HISTORY (324 A.D.)
BOOK II CHAPTER XXV:
The Persecution under Nero in which Paul and Peter were honored at Rome with
Martyrdom in Behalf of Religion.
1. WHEN the government of Nero was now firmly established, he began to
plunge into unholy pursuits, and armed himself even against the religion of
the God of the universe.
2. To describe the greatness of his depravity does not lie within the plan
of the present work. As there are many indeed that have recorded his history
in most accurate narratives,[1] every one may at his pleasure learn from
them the coarseness of the man's extraordinary madness, under the influence
of which, after he had accomplished the destruction of so many myriads
without any reason, he ran into such blood- guiltiness that he did not spare
even his nearest relatives and dearest friends, but destroyed his mother and
his brothers and his wife,[2] with very many others of his own family as he
would private and public enemies, with various kinds of deaths.
3. But with all these things this particular in the catalogue of his crimes
was still wanting, that he was the first of the emperors who showed himself
an enemy of the divine religion.
4. The Roman Tertullian is likewise a witness of this. He writes as
follows:[3] "Examine your records. There you will find that Nero was the
first that persecuted this doctrine,[4] particularly then when after
subduing all the east, he exercised his cruelty against all at Rome.[5] We
glory in having such a man the leader in our punishment. For whoever knows
him can understand that nothing was condemned by Nero unless it was
something of great excellence."
5. Thus publicly announcing himself as the first among God's chief enemies,
he was led on to the slaughter of the apostles. It is, therefore, recorded
that Paul was beheaded in Rome itself,[6] and that Peter likewise was
crucified under Nero.[7] This account of Peter and Paul is substantiated by
the fact that their names are preserved in the cemeteries of that place even
to the present day.
6. It is confirmed likewise by Caius,[8] a member of the Church,[9] who
arose[10] under Zephyrinus,[11] bishop of Rome. He, in a published
disputation with Proclus,[12] the leader of the Phrygian heresy,[13] speaks
as follows concerning the places where the sacred corpses of the aforesaid
apostles are laid:
7. "But[14] I can show the trophies of the apostles. For if you will go to
the Vatican[15] or to the Ostian way,[16] you will find the trophies of
those who laid the foundations of this church."[17]
8. And that they both suffered martyrdom at the same time is stated by
Dionysius, bishop of Corinth,[18] in his epistle to the Romans,[19] in the
following words: "You have thus by such an admonition bound together the
planting of Peter and of Paul at Rome and Corinth. For both of them planted
and likewise taught us in our Corinth.[20] And they taught together in like
manner in Italy, and suffered martyrdom at the same time."[21] I have quoted
these things in order that the truth of the history might be still more
confirmed.
BOOK III. CHAPTER I: The Parts of the World in which the Apostles preached
Christ.
1. Such was the condition of the Jews. Meanwhile the holy apostles and
disciples of our Saviour were dispersed throughout the world.[1] Parthia,[2]
according to tradition, was allotted to Thomas as his field of labor,
Scythia[3] to Andrew,[4] and Asia[5] to John,[6] who, after he had lived
some time there,[7] died at Ephesus.
2. Peter appears to have preached in Pontus, Galatia, Bithynia, Cappadocia,
and Asia[9] to the Jews of the dispersion. And at last, having come to Rome,
he was crucified head- downwards;[10] for he had requested that he might
suffer in this way. What do we need to say concerning Paul, who preached the
Gospel of Christ from Jerusalem to Illyricum,[11] and afterwards suffered
martyrdom in Rome under Nero?[12] These facts are related by Origen in the
third volume of his Commentary on Genesis.[13]
CHAPTER II: The First Rulers of the Church of Rome.
After the martyrdom of Paul and of Peter, Linus[1] was the first to obtain
the episcopate of the church at Rome. Paul mentions him, when writing to
Timothy from Rome, in the salutation at the end of the epistle.[2]
CHAPTER IV: The First Successors of the Apostles.
1. THAT Paul preached to the Gentiles and laid the foundations of the
churches "from Jerusalem round about even unto Illyricum," is evident both
from his own words,[1] and from the account which Luke has given in the
Acts.[2]
2. And in how many provinces Peter preached Christ and taught the doctrine
of the new covenant to those of the circumcision is clear from his own words
in his epistle already mentioned as undisputed,[3] in which he writes to the
Hebrews of the dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and
Bithynia.[4]
3. But the number and the names of those among them that became true and
zealous followers of the apostles, and were judged worthy to tend the
churches rounded by them, it is not easy to tell, except those mentioned in
the writings of Paul.
4. For he had innumerable fellow- laborers, or "fellow-soldiers," as he
called them,[5] and most of them were honored by him with an imperishable
memorial, for he gave enduring testimony concerning them in his own
epistles.
5. Luke also in the Acts speaks of his friends, and mentions them by
name.[6]
6. Timothy, so it is recorded, was the first to receive the episcopate of
the parish in Ephesus,[7] Titus of the churches in Crete.[8]
7. But Luke,[9] who was of Antiochian parentage and a physician by
profession,[10] and who was especially intimate with Paul and well
acquainted with the rest of the apostles,[11] has left us, in two inspired
books, proofs of that spiritual healing art which he learned from them. One
of these books is the Gospel,[12] which he testifies that he wrote as those
who were from the beginning eye witnesses and ministers of the word
delivered unto him, all of whom, as he says, he followed accurately from the
first.[13] The other book is the Acts of the Apostles[14] which he composed
not from the accounts of others, but from what he had seen himself.
8. And they say that Paul meant to refer to Luke's Gospel wherever, as if
speaking of some gospel of his own, he used the words, "according to my
Gospel."[15]
9. As to the rest of his followers, Paul testifies that Crescens was sent to
Gaul;[16] but Linus, whom he mentions in the Second Epistle to Timothy[17]
as his companion at Rome, was Peter's successor in the episcopate of the
church there, as has already been shown.[18]
10. Clement also, who was appointed third bishop of the church at Rome, was,
as Paul testifies, his co-laborer and fellow-soldier.[19]
11. Besides these, that Areopagite, named Dionysius, who was the first to
believe after Paul's address to the Athenians in the Areopagus (as recorded
by Luke in the Acts)[20] is mentioned by another Dionysius, an ancient
writer and pastor of the parish in Corinth,[21] as the first bishop of the
church at Athens.
12. But the events connected with the apostolic succession we shall relate
at the proper time. Meanwhile let us continue the course of our history.
CHAPTER XI: Symeon rules the Church of Jerusalem after James
1. AFTER the martyrdom of James (1) and the conquest of Jerusalem which
immediately followed, (2) it is said that those of the apostles and
disciples of the Lord that were still living came together from all
directions with those that were related to the Lord according to the flesh
(3) (for the majority of them also were still alive) to take counsel as to
who was worthy to succeed James.
2. They all with one consent pronounced Symeon, (4) the son of Clopas, of
whom the Gospel also makes mention; (5) to be worthy of the episcopal throne
of that parish. He was a cousin, as they say, of the Saviour. For Hegesippus
records that Clopas was a brother of Joseph. (6)
CHAPTER XIII: Anencletus, the Second Bishop of Rome.
After Vespasian had reigned ten years Titus, his son, succeeded him. (1) In
the second year of his reign, Linus, who had been bishop of the church of
Rome for twelve years, (2) delivered his office to Anencletus. (3) But Titus
was succeeded by his brother Domitian after he had reigned two years and the
same number of months. (4)
CHAPTER XIV: Abilius, the Second Bishop of Alexandria.
In the fourth year of Domitian, Annianus, (1) the first bishop of the parish
of Alexandria, died after holding office twenty-two years, and was succeeded
by Abilius, (2) the second bishop.
CHAPTER XV: Clement, the Third Bishop of Rome.
In the twelfth year of the same reign Clement succeeded Anencletus (1) after
the latter had been bishop of the church of Rome for twelve years. The
apostle in his Epistle to the Philippians informs us that this Clement was
his fellow-worker. His words are as follows: (2) "With Clement arid the rest
of my fellow-laborers whose names are in the book of life."
CHAPTER XVI: The Epistle of Clement.
There is extant an epistle of this Clement (1) which is acknowledged to be
genuine and is of considerable length and of remarkable merit. (2) He wrote
it in the name of the church of Rome to the church of Corinth, when a
sedition had arisen in the latter church. (3) We know that this epistle also
has been publicly used in a great many churches both in former times and in
our own. (4) And of the fact that a sedition did take place in the church of
Corinth at the time referred to Hegesippus is a trustworthy witness. (5)
CHAPTER XXI: Cerdon becomes the Third Ruler of the Church of Alexandria.
1. After Nerva had reigned a little more than a year (1) he was succeeded by
Trojan. It was during the first year of his reign that Abilius, (2) who had
ruled the church of Alexandria for thirteen years, was succeeded by Cerdon.
(3)
2. He was the third that presided over that church after Annianus, (4) who
was the first. At that time Clement still ruled the church of Rome, being
also the third that held the episcopate there after Paul and Peter.
3. Linus was the first, and after him came Anencletus, (5)
CHAPTER XXII: Ignatius, the Second Bishop of Antioch.
AT this time Ignatius (1) was known as the second bishop of Antioch, Evodius
having been the first. (2) Symeon (3) likewise was at that time the second
ruler of the church of Jerusalem, the brother of our Saviour having been the
first.
CHAPTER XXXIV: Evarestus, the Fourth Bishop of the Church of Rome.
In the third year of the reign of the emperor mentioned above, (1) Clement
(2) committed the episcopal government of the church of Rome to Evarestus,
(3) and departed this life after he had superintended the teaching of the
divine word nine years in all.
CHAPTER XXXV: Justus, the Third Bishop of Jerusalem.
But when Symeon also had died in the manner described, (1) a certain Jew by
the name of Justus (2) succeeded to the episcopal throne in Jerusalem. He
was one of the many thousands of the circumcision who at that time believed
in Christ.
CHAPTER XXXVI: Ignatius and his Epistles.
1. At that time Polycarp, (1) a disciple of the apostles, was a man of
eminence in Asia, having been entrusted with the episcopate of the church of
Smyrna by those who had seen and heard the Lord.
2. And at the same time Papias, (2) bishop of the parish of Hierapolis, (3)
became well known, as did also Ignatius, who was chosen bishop of Antioch,
second in succession to Peter, and whose fame is still celebrated by a great
many. (4)
3. Report says that he was sent from Syria to Rome, and became food for wild
beasts on account of his testimony to Christ. (5)
4. And as he made the journey through Asia under the strictest military
surveillance, he fortified the parishes in the various cities where he
stopped by oral homilies and exhortations, and warned them above all to be
especially on their guard against the heresies that were then beginning to
prevail, and exhorted them to hold fast to the tradition of the apostles. .
.
BOOK IV CHAPTER I: The Bishops of Rome and of Alexandria during the Reign of
Trajan.(1)
1. About the twelfth year of the reign of Trajan the above-mentioned bishop
of the parish of Alexandria(2) died, and Primus,(3) the fourth in succession
from the apostles, was chosen to the office.
2. At that time also Alexandre,(4) the fifth in the line of succession from
Peter and Pail, received the episcopate at Rome, after Evarestus had held
the office eight years.(5)
CHAPTER IV: The Bishops of Rome and of Alexandria under the Same Emperor.(1)
In the third year of the same reign, Alexander,(2) bishop of Rome, died,
after holding office ten years. His successor was Xystus.(3) About the same
time Primus, bishop of Alexandria, died in the twelfth year of his
episcopate,(4) and was succeeded by Justus.(5)
CHAPTER X: The Bishops of Rome and of Alexandria during the Reign of
Antoninus.
Adrian having died after a reign of twenty-one years, [1] was succeeded in
the government of the Romans by Antoninus, called the Pious. In the first
year of his reign Telesphorus [2] died in the eleventh year of his
episcopate, and Hyginus became bishop of Rome. [3] Irenaeus records that
Telesphorus' death was made glorious by martyrdom, [4] and in the same
connection he states that in the time of the above- mentioned Roman bishop
Hyginus, Valentinus, the founder of a sect of his own, and Cerdon, the
author of Marcion's error, were both well known at Rome. [5] He writes as
follows: [6]
CHAPTER XIX: The Rulers of the Churches of Rome and Alexandria during the
Reign of Ferns. In the eighth year of the above-mentioned reign [1] Soter
[2] succeeded Anicetus [3] as bishop of the church of Rome, after the latter
had held office eleven years in all. But when Celadion [4] had presided over
the church of Alexandria for fourteen years tie was succeeded by Agrippinus.
[5]
CHAPTER XX: The Rulers of the Church of Antioch. At that time also in the
church of Antioch, Theophilus [1] was well known as the sixth from the
apostles. For Cornelius, [2] who succeeded Hero, [3] was the fourth, and
after him Eros, [4] the fifth in order, had held the office of bishop.
CHAPTER XXI: The Ecclesiastical Writers that flourished in Those Days. At
that time there flourished in the Church Hegesippus, whom we know from what
has gone before, [1] and Dionysius, [2] bishop of Corinth, and another
bishop, Pinytus of Crete, [3] and besides these, Philip, [4] and
Apolinarius, [5] and Melito, [6] and Musanus, [7] and Modestus, [8] and
finally, Irenaeus. [9] From them has come down to us in writing, the sound
and orthodox faith received from apostolic tradition.[10]
http://www.flash.net/~timothyc/
cqabug
him while he's writing his church history. But please remind your friend
of the caveat that St. John handed down to us: cf. The Apocalypse (Rev.)
22:18-19. Heretics have the propensity to get out of bounds.
Ad Jesum per Mariam,
Carlque
"I never spared heretics and have always done my utmost so that the enemies
of the Church should also be my enemies." (St. Jerome, 420 AD)
joelnicholaschua <joel...@magix.com.sg> wrote in article
<871hpe$n8c$1...@clematis.singnet.com.sg>...
> Guys, as a Catholic, I ask must you, my fellow brothers and sisters in
the
> faith a simple question. This article that Carlos posted is not
> anti-Catholic in nature, as opposed to his other posts. So why are you
> reacting so negatively to it? Just because it's from Carlos? If you'll
> forgive me, I must say that's a little immature.
>
> While his post may be fundamentally contrary to Catholic doctrine, it is
not
> anti-Catholic. Let us, in the spirit of compassion and understanding,
read
> and reflect on what Carlos has to say eventhough we know that it is not
> authoritative in any way. Let's treat it as a simple reflection of a man
> truely seeking God in his own way; even if we do not agree with it. We
must
> do this so that we can understand who our brother Carlos really is when
he
> is not attacking our Church. That is if we really care for him and want
to
> help him.
>
> Praying 'Ut Unum Sint',
> joel
>
> > > > <20000129170338...@ng-co1.aol.com>...
> > > > > CHURCH HISTORY PART ONE
> > > >
> > >
cbart
To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant.
John Henry Newman
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joelnicholaschua
mind. I'm not defending him in that sense. But I do accept him a a brother
in Christ.news:01bf6b53$18fc2aa0$7f009ad8@cqabug...
cqabug
Christian history and come to the same conclusion.
Ad majorem Dei gloriam,
Carlque
"I never spared heretics and have always done my utmost so that the enemies
of the Church should also be my enemies." (St. Jerome, 420 AD)
cbart <chrisbartt...@xoommail.com.invalid> wrote in article
<05f6b007...@usw-ex0104-025.remarq.com>...
> In article <01bf6b53$18fc2aa0$7f009ad8@cqabug>, "cqabug"
> <cqa...@idirect.com> wrote:
cqabug
Let's just pray for him.
Ad Jesum per Mariam,
Carlque
"I never spared heretics and have always done my utmost so that the enemies
of the Church should also be my enemies." (St. Jerome, 420 AD)
joelnicholaschua <joel...@magix.com.sg> wrote in article
<873auv$j2d$1...@violet.singnet.com.sg>...
> Carlos is not my 'friend'. At least not the kind of 'friend' you had in
> mind. I'm not defending him in that sense. But I do accept him a a
brother
> in Christ.
> "cqabug" <cqa...@idirect.com> wrote in message
> news:01bf6b53$18fc2aa0$7f009ad8@cqabug...
Theodore M. Seeber
> While his post may be fundamentally contrary to Catholic doctrine, it is not
> anti-Catholic.
Please explain how such a thing is possible. The ONLY reason I know of
for teaching things that are fundamentally contrary to Catholic Doctrine
is to lure people away from the One True Church. How can such an act be
considered NOT anti-Catholic?
Ted
On this, the Feast of St John Bosco,
"They say that I'm a Dreamer"
http://www.catholic.org/saints/saints/johnbosco.html
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Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho.
joelnicholaschua
Church for her teachings as opposed to his other posts. Yes, his purpose is
indeed to lure people away from the Catholic Church, he's said that himself
in the past. But it's an improvement that now he's giving others his version
of the 'truth' instead of spitting at Holy Mother Church's doctrines.
"Theodore M. Seeber" <see...@teleport.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.10.100013...@user2.teleport.com...
cqabug
joelnicholaschua <joel...@magix.com.sg> wrote in article
<8764qn$bld$1...@mawar.singnet.com.sg>...
> What I meant by anti-Catholic was that he does not specifically denounce
the
> Church for her teachings as opposed to his other posts. Yes, his purpose
is
> indeed to lure people away from the Catholic Church, he's said that
himself
> in the past.
But it's an improvement that now he's giving others his version
> of the 'truth' instead of spitting at Holy Mother Church's doctrines.
But, Joel, giving his own version of the 'truth' is still the same as
spitting at Holy Mother Church's doctrines.
Again, let's pray for him.
Ad Jesum per Mariam,
Carlque
"I never spared heretics and have always done my utmost so that the enemies
of the Church should also be my enemies." (St. Jerome, 420 AD)
>
Theodore M. Seeber
> What I meant by anti-Catholic was that he does not specifically denounce the
> Church for her teachings as opposed to his other posts. Yes, his purpose is
> indeed to lure people away from the Catholic Church, he's said that himself
> in the past. But it's an improvement that now he's giving others his version
> of the 'truth' instead of spitting at Holy Mother Church's doctrines.
But in that case, wouldn't it still be fair to attack his version of the
truth on the same set of rules that he uses to attack the Holy Mother
Church's doctrines?
For instance:
Carlos has this doctrine that Jesus gave different promises to the Jews
and the Gentiles. He uses this doctrine to ignore the command to do good
works in James 2:24. Yet this doctrine is explicitly against Romans
10:12, a book that he accepts using the same doctrine (since the Romans
were Gentile, not Jew)!
That's the aim I've been taking at his tactics: That his method of
interpreting the Bible is not internally consistent.
Ted
> "Theodore M. Seeber" <see...@teleport.com> wrote in message
> news:Pine.GSO.4.10.100013...@user2.teleport.com...
> > On Sun, 30 Jan 2000, joelnicholaschua wrote:
> >
> > > While his post may be fundamentally contrary to Catholic doctrine, it is
> not
> > > anti-Catholic.
> >
> > Please explain how such a thing is possible. The ONLY reason I know of
> > for teaching things that are fundamentally contrary to Catholic Doctrine
> > is to lure people away from the One True Church. How can such an act be
> > considered NOT anti-Catholic?
> > Ted
> >
> > On this, the Feast of St John Bosco,
> > "They say that I'm a Dreamer"
> > http://www.catholic.org/saints/saints/johnbosco.html
> > mailto:see...@teleport.com
> > mailto:seebe...@bigfoot.com-emergency Only 100 char limit
> > On emergency address, remove everything past .com...This will send
> > to my cell phone, my work, and my home.
> > http://www.teleport.com/~seebert/
> > Je suis Marxiste, tendance Groucho.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
On this, the Feast of St Brigid,
http://www.catholic.org/saints/saints/brigidireland.html