Best Malaysian Game Developer !!!
mama...@my-deja.com
Hi mortal Malaysians!
Good news! We at Mamak Team are proud to announce our website and
our upcoming 3D game called Cricyst that has been in development
for over 3 years!
We now have the FIRST 3D game and also the FIRST REAL game in
Malaysia compared to other Malaysian game company wannabees.
We proudly invite you to visit our website at http://www.mamakteam.com
to get first hand information about our best high quality 3D shooter
in the style of RayStorm.. (better than Raystorm)
Please, only Internet Explorer 5.0 users are welcomed.
We do not support other browsers and have no plans to.
All the latest special fx are implemented and soon, transform and
lighting will be implemented too using DirectX 7 SDK.
We proudly proclaim to be the first REAL games development team
from Malaysia to use the latest technology such as the GeForce256
based GPU chipsets.
Visit us now! This project has taken us painstakenly 3 years and
more to do and it's nearing completion.
Our arsenals of best programmers you can ever find in Malaysia
are highly experienced in graphics programming, and our
best artists are ANIME experts in 3D mechs using Kinetix 3D studio
max for the art and models.
We are proud to introduce ourselves, the immortal Malaysians :)
below:
1. RISC - Project organizer and quality control.
2. Astral - Lead programmer for game and engine.
3. Flash - Tools programmer and professional algorithm expert.
4. Xakhon - Kinetix 3D Studio MAX artist and expert Mech designer.
5. Asuka - Kinetix 3D Studio MAX artist and graphics quality control
department.
Visit us at our websites soon, Cricyst will rock the world and
trigger an earthquake in Malaysia. We may not be the first, but
we are definitely going to be the BEST (We are technically there
already..) Unlike other soon to be dead or already dead self-proclaimed
Malaysian Game Development companies, we are the real ones and
have very highly skilled programmers and artists who are the best
there is in Malaysia. Other game companies wannabes are either dying
or dead. Long Live the Mamak Team !!!! Wooh! Wooh! Wooh! Wooh!
Regards,
The Mamak Team. (We are the Best!)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Marines
Charger wrote:
>
> *tsk* *tsk*
> how rude.....
> I think u need to have a good PR training..... <sigh>
>
> <mama...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7um1m4$8h0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> >
> > None of your Business!!
> >
> >
> > The MamakTeam.
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
I think what he meant was, he wants none of our businesses....8-)
Rkaru
> Please, only Internet Explorer 5.0 users are welcomed.
> We do not support other browsers and have no plans to.
>
Oh...okay. Your loss then, I guess.
--
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"Heh...heh...."
Alistair
<mama...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7ukq04$cd8$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
>
> Hi mortal Malaysians!
>
> Good news! We at Mamak Team are proud to announce our website and
> our upcoming 3D game called Cricyst that has been in development
> for over 3 years!
>
3 years and not even a demo up, by the time you guys finish the project, MS
should be releasing DirectX 10.
Charger
BTW, are the softwares you all use legal version?
<chuckle>
mama...@my-deja.com
mama...@my-deja.com
"Alistair" <alist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> 3 years and not even a demo up, by the time you guys finish the
project, MS
> should be releasing DirectX 10.
>
That's because QUALITY is the most important factor in our projects
and all the members agree.
Unlike the other so called Local game developers (You know who you are)
who churn out half-assed quality product that cannot even compete
with the quality sharewares from international markets, we guarantee
that our game will beat Raystorm and have at least Quake2/Half-Life
quality.
Expect lotsa 3D special fx features that will mesmerize your eyes
using the latest Directx 7.0 and it will support transformations and
lighting in Hardware using GeForce256 chipsets.
Just in case anyone can't remember, let me remind you of the so called
local game companies that are officially dead and out of business
for inactivity or page change
Exceron of Ziron multimedia... http://www.ziron.com now the 'expert'
is spamming newsgroups trying to sell his web commerce software.
Webworks from hitechniaga and their 3 big game projs that is now
reduced to one called destiny that hasn't shown any progress yet.
No more news since 2 years ago. No web update for long long time.
IISB who released that lame low-res 8-bit 2-bit 2D shooter that isn't
fit to be called the First game of Malaysia because it only shames
our beloved country's name.
We will be the FIRST REAL Malaysian game developer who releases
the FIRST REAL GAME with the FIRST to use high-quality 3D engines!
We will ROCK the world and destroy the other local game companies
and humiliate their pathetic existence.. (They do not deserve to
exist for putting out crap or nothing in the first place)
From,
The MamakTeam ... We're the best, as always.
mama...@my-deja.com
>
> If you don't have a demo, at least you can post some screen shots!!!!
And
> you have none!
Soon there will be 3D real-time screenshots. AND downloadable
versions of the game!
>
> Define REAL GAME. Many people has done a game before including me. So
you
> are definetely not the first.
REAL GAME as in 3D REal-tIME. Unlike other local game developers
that either do 2D only games or have none at all, we will bring
Half-life and Quake2 quality 3D game, for Malaysians, by Malaysians.
Real game as in a game that is programmed by professional teams
specializing in DirectX and Win32 instead of half-assed DOS
programmers who writes 2D shooters.
>
> Your big loss. Sounds like you guys are incompetent. Supports only the
best
> and ignore the rest.
Microsoft has the largest command of market share, and soon IE5
will be too, if it isn't already. Why support multiple browsers
and waste time when you only need to support the one and only best ?
IE5 is so convenient and the security of hiding the javascript
makes it an ideal platform. Get real, Microsoft is THE standard
and we wouldn't endorse any other browsers or products not from
MS. You anti-microsofties are just too hard-headed to realize
the real world. Besides, webpages on IE5 makes them more sophisticated
than those from netscrap.
> So, I wonder what is the requirement of your games????
>
> Let me guess.....
> AMD 1GHZ
> 4GB RAM
> 100GB Harddisk
> GeForce256 only
> and we have no plans to support lesser machine. We are the best of the
best.
> So we support only the best!!!!!!
>
> Get REAL!
>
No, YOU GET REAL. Why consider the lower-end hardware when the
game players always have the most updated hardware?! Who the hell
wants to have a slow system if playing games ? So it's not wrong
to require the best hardware for our game!
>
> I have seen many promising things, and most of them, lives not up to
the
> hype.
We will live up to it, We will make sure we win the PIKOM finals
for multimedia Title. We will beat the other titles and competitors
off the multimedia market.
> And please, you might be techically good, but that means you are not
the
> best. Don't be so over confident.
> Saying you are the best while shunning others. That is not the right
way.
>
Haha, but we ARE the best ? Do you see any other 3D game development
companies in Malaysia ? hahahaha. None! Most can't even do proper
2D games, much less 3D games ? Too many lamers around who can't
really code. Like i said, we will show Malaysians that we are the
best, and you WILL agree with us.
> And please, have something to show on your webpage before posting to
the
> others.
> Otherwise that will makes people thinks that you promised something
but you
> have nothing to show.
> Some screenshots will do.
>
> And don't sound that cocky. You will get flamed.
Haha, flamed ? what's that ? It doesn't exist in my dictionary. :P
From,
The Mamakteam,
risc,astral,flash,xakhon,asuka.
mama...@my-deja.com
>
>
> Maybe these guys doesn't know the proper way of designing things. Only
go
> for the best while ignoring the rest.
We know the best way and right way. We won't waste time on non-IE5
users. IE5 has the best features any web developer can dream of, so
we will use it's features and stick with it.
> And they are so damn cocky, from what I can see from their postings.
There is nothing wrong with that as long as you know you are good
enough and the best.
>
> Their game might impresses some people, but not to me simply because
they
> are so damn cocky.
The game has already impressed many people here in Johor Bahru.
We are already well-known and we dare say no one from Penang
or KL can even come close to what we have.
>
> To MamakTeam,
> Your team will not get much respect from people even you have done a
good
> job in your game. You better rethink your strategies before your team
really
> get a bad name.
We're highly respected in Johor and just ask any PC shops in Holiday
plaza and they'll know who we are. As for bad name, nah, people will
remember us for our 3D masterpiece. Don't be too jealous of us. :P
> And your method of promoting your team and your game is totally wrong.
You
> shouln't say that other local game developer are failure just to prove
that
> you are better. If they are not able to publish a game, so what? What
do
> they have to do with you? They insulted you or something that they
deserved
> to be shamed by YOU???
Hahah, other local game developers ARE failures! Don't you think so ?
They've not come up with anything that is of international standards,
and only know how to publish crap old dos products. If these kind of
people can win PIKOM, then i suppose we can win international game
programming competitions then ? haha.
>
> And if your game is technically superior, that doesn't mean you have
to get
> cocky. Be nice to everyone and people will respect you. I have seen
many
> good graphic programmers, game programmers out in the net from USA,
Europe
> and they are not cocky although they are exellent in programming. So
why
> should you get cocky?
>
> AND YOU WILL PUT ALL MALAYSIANS TO SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The rest of
the
> world will think that Malaysians are rude just because of your team.
>
> Doesn't anyone else here agree with my statement ???
Who do you think you are ? what HAVE you done ? what ARE your
credentials ? Another degree holder with the EGO up there ?
You claimed to have written a game, mind sharing what is it about
with us ? :)
From,
The Mamakteam.
We bring Malaysian 3D to your Malaysian world.
Bali-Peng
16:18:24 GMT but somehow...
> Good news! We at Mamak Team are proud to announce our website and
> our upcoming 3D game called Cricyst that has been in development
> for over 3 years!
Well, er... er... Malaysia Boleh?
BTW, let's hope that this game won't get absorbed by EA or else... have
to end up paying RM100++ for that Malaysian-made game...
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ICQ UIN: 1883122 <Bali-Peng>
Guan Foo Wah
> Hi mortal Malaysians!
>
> Good news! We at Mamak Team are proud to announce our website and
> our upcoming 3D game called Cricyst that has been in development
> for over 3 years!
you have none!
> We now have the FIRST 3D game and also the FIRST REAL game in
> Malaysia compared to other Malaysian game company wannabees.
Define REAL GAME. Many people has done a game before including me. So you
are definetely not the first.
> We proudly invite you to visit our website at http://www.mamakteam.com
> to get first hand information about our best high quality 3D shooter
> in the style of RayStorm.. (better than Raystorm)
> Please, only Internet Explorer 5.0 users are welcomed.
> We do not support other browsers and have no plans to.
Your big loss. Sounds like you guys are incompetent. Supports only the best
and ignore the rest.
So, I wonder what is the requirement of your games????
Let me guess.....
AMD 1GHZ
4GB RAM
100GB Harddisk
GeForce256 only
and we have no plans to support lesser machine. We are the best of the best.
So we support only the best!!!!!!
Get REAL!
> Visit us at our websites soon, Cricyst will rock the world and
> trigger an earthquake in Malaysia. We may not be the first, but
> we are definitely going to be the BEST (We are technically there
> already..) Unlike other soon to be dead or already dead self-proclaimed
> Malaysian Game Development companies, we are the real ones and
> have very highly skilled programmers and artists who are the best
> there is in Malaysia. Other game companies wannabes are either dying
> or dead. Long Live the Mamak Team !!!! Wooh! Wooh! Wooh! Wooh!
I have seen many promising things, and most of them, lives not up to the
hype.
And please, you might be techically good, but that means you are not the
best. Don't be so over confident.
Saying you are the best while shunning others. That is not the right way.
And please, have something to show on your webpage before posting to the
Syed Mohammad Khairil
Talk is cheap. How about sending your game to independent reviewers like
gamecenter.com
gamersdepot.com
cnet.com
and let them review your "game". It's fair don't you think.
mama...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <380e1...@news2.tm.net.my>,
> "Charger" <Cha...@thamcw.8m.com> wrote:
> > Cool.....
> > BTW, are the softwares you all use legal version?
> > <chuckle>
> >
> >
>
> None of your Business!!
>
> The MamakTeam.
>
Jc
something concrete.
i've been to your website (www.mamakteam.com) and i kind of like your
interface. quite ok, but it seems to lack any contents. i'm using IE5 but i
can't seem to get anything from your menu. in the 'About Us' menu, none of
the info can be retrieved... dunno if it's my browsers that in-compatible or
the contents are just not there...hmmmm
btw, if you are really releasing a half-completed site for the public, makes
me wonder about your game software...
come to think of it, as you are not putting effort to cater to everybody by
supporting only IE browsers and not Netscape browsers, it'll also make me
wonder what your game doesn't support...
a word of advice, everything you say/publish/do anywhere reflects on
you/your company/your products.
pride comes before a fall... [did i quote it correctly?]
just my 5 cents
--
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PS: please post your replies to the newsgroup
cHiBiMaRuKo
other browsers other than IE5. If you must have to stick with your
animations, go to http://www.unrealtournament.net see for yourself one of
the coolest website I've ever seen ( and it is displayed nicely on NC too ).
You'll lost potential visitors ( maybe customers )if you stick with only one
browser.
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Charger
how rude.....
I think u need to have a good PR training..... <sigh>
<mama...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7um1m4$8h0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
Charger
People that thinks like u, will only make malaysia worse...
<mama...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7um36o$9jh$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
Guan Foo Wah
news:380ea...@news.tm.net.my...
> So if you claim that your team are the best, revamp your website to
support
> other browsers other than IE5. If you must have to stick with your
> animations, go to http://www.unrealtournament.net see for yourself one of
> the coolest website I've ever seen ( and it is displayed nicely on NC
too ).
> You'll lost potential visitors ( maybe customers )if you stick with only
one
> browser.
>
Maybe these guys doesn't know the proper way of designing things. Only go
for the best while ignoring the rest.
And they are so damn cocky, from what I can see from their postings.
Their game might impresses some people, but not to me simply because they
are so damn cocky.
To MamakTeam,
Your team will not get much respect from people even you have done a good
job in your game. You better rethink your strategies before your team really
get a bad name.
And your method of promoting your team and your game is totally wrong. You
shouln't say that other local game developer are failure just to prove that
you are better. If they are not able to publish a game, so what? What do
they have to do with you? They insulted you or something that they deserved
to be shamed by YOU???
And if your game is technically superior, that doesn't mean you have to get
Charger
It seems like the poster is nothing, but a pathetic cowboy
Guan Foo Wah <jg...@iname.com> wrote in message
news:380ea...@news.tm.net.my...
>
Syed Mohammad Khairil
If mamakteam's game is good, then they should send their game 4 independent
review like gamersdepot.com or cnet.com/gamecenter.com.
I challenge mamakteam to do the above. Let a neutral party review your game.
End!
-Syed-
[ăŁ-§pĺwNed]Š
THIS IS MAMAK BOLEH !
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-Age is a state of mind-
Bali-Peng <jas...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1278e4491...@news.tm.net.my...
> (mama...@my-deja.com) might have cited this topic on Wed, 20 Oct 1999
> 16:18:24 GMT but somehow...
>
> > Good news! We at Mamak Team are proud to announce our website and
> > our upcoming 3D game called Cricyst that has been in development
> > for over 3 years!
>
[ăŁ-§pĺwNed]Š
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Alistair <alist...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:380df...@news.tm.net.my...
>
> <mama...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:7ukq04$cd8$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> >
> >
> > Hi mortal Malaysians!
> >
> > Good news! We at Mamak Team are proud to announce our website and
> > our upcoming 3D game called Cricyst that has been in development
> > for over 3 years!
> >
>
[ăŁ-§pĺwNed]Š
u might be one of the failure teams too MAMAK team!
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Guan Foo Wah <jg...@iname.com> wrote in message
news:380ea...@news.tm.net.my...
> cHiBiMaRuKo <ast...@waumail.com> wrote in message
> news:380ea...@news.tm.net.my...
> > So if you claim that your team are the best, revamp your website to
> support
> > other browsers other than IE5. If you must have to stick with your
> > animations, go to http://www.unrealtournament.net see for yourself one
of
> > the coolest website I've ever seen ( and it is displayed nicely on NC
> too ).
> > You'll lost potential visitors ( maybe customers )if you stick with only
> one
> > browser.
> >
>
> Maybe these guys doesn't know the proper way of designing things. Only go
> for the best while ignoring the rest.
> And they are so damn cocky, from what I can see from their postings.
>
> Their game might impresses some people, but not to me simply because they
> are so damn cocky.
>
>
Bali-Peng
03:35:33 GMT but somehow...
> None of your Business!!
Now, now, this is an unsporting way to answer a joke...
[ăŁ-§pĺwNed]Š
suppose to be u r so damn rite! ...
sorry for the wrongly submitted posting.
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[ăŁ-§pĺwNed]Š <spaw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:380eb...@news.tm.net.my...
> kih kih kih .. r u so damn rite alistair.. :)
>
> --
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> -Age is a state of mind-
>
>
[ăŁ-§pĺwNed]Š
yelling here in the commies saying your team
will be the FIRST REAL Malaysian game dev.
i guess no one likes "NATO" attitude here..
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<mama...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7um36o$9jh$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <380df...@news.tm.net.my>,
> "Alistair" <alist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 3 years and not even a demo up, by the time you guys finish the
> project, MS
> > should be releasing DirectX 10.
> >
>
> That's because QUALITY is the most important factor in our projects
> and all the members agree.
>
> Unlike the other so called Local game developers (You know who you are)
> who churn out half-assed quality product that cannot even compete
> with the quality sharewares from international markets, we guarantee
> that our game will beat Raystorm and have at least Quake2/Half-Life
> quality.
>
> Expect lotsa 3D special fx features that will mesmerize your eyes
> using the latest Directx 7.0 and it will support transformations and
> lighting in Hardware using GeForce256 chipsets.
>
> Just in case anyone can't remember, let me remind you of the so called
> local game companies that are officially dead and out of business
> for inactivity or page change
>
> Exceron of Ziron multimedia... http://www.ziron.com now the 'expert'
> is spamming newsgroups trying to sell his web commerce software.
>
> Webworks from hitechniaga and their 3 big game projs that is now
> reduced to one called destiny that hasn't shown any progress yet.
> No more news since 2 years ago. No web update for long long time.
>
> IISB who released that lame low-res 8-bit 2-bit 2D shooter that isn't
> fit to be called the First game of Malaysia because it only shames
> our beloved country's name.
>
>
> We will be the FIRST REAL Malaysian game developer who releases
> the FIRST REAL GAME with the FIRST to use high-quality 3D engines!
>
>
>
> We will ROCK the world and destroy the other local game companies
> and humiliate their pathetic existence.. (They do not deserve to
> exist for putting out crap or nothing in the first place)
>
>
> From,
> The MamakTeam ... We're the best, as always.
>
>
Super667
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[ăŁ-§pĺwNed]Š <spaw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:380eb...@news.tm.net.my...
> Malaysia Boleh ? BP r u nuts ..
> THIS IS MAMAK BOLEH !
>
Bali-Peng
but somehow...
> 3 years and not even a demo up, by the time you guys finish the project, MS
> should be releasing DirectX 10.
This sounds so familiar.... now where did I heard it before...
ah yes...
Still can remember the development of Tiberian Sun... so disappointing...
No demo for three years... hehe... and when it's released... no
atmosphere... :)
Chow Yen Feng
[ăŁ-§pĺwNed]Š <spaw...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:380eb...@news.tm.net.my...
> Malaysia Boleh ? BP r u nuts ..
> THIS IS MAMAK BOLEH !
>
> --
> [aL-Spawn]Š
> [ icq ] 5096508
> [ url ] http://members.xoom.com/diablospawn
> -Age is a state of mind-
>
>
> Bali-Peng <jas...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1278e4491...@news.tm.net.my...
> > (mama...@my-deja.com) might have cited this topic on Wed, 20 Oct 1999
> > 16:18:24 GMT but somehow...
> >
> > > Good news! We at Mamak Team are proud to announce our website and
> > > our upcoming 3D game called Cricyst that has been in development
> > > for over 3 years!
> >
> > Well, er... er... Malaysia Boleh?
> > BTW, let's hope that this game won't get absorbed by EA or else... have
> > to end up paying RM100++ for that Malaysian-made game...
Syed Mohammad Khairil
: )
Bali-Peng wrote:
> (Chow Yen Feng) might have cited this topic on Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:47:02
> +0800 but somehow...
>
> > Yeah 'MALAYSIA BOLEH MAMAK PUN BOLEH'
>
> Haha, the next thing is Blizzard, Westwood and other US gaming developers
> start laughing when they see the demos....
Chow Yen Feng
<mama...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7ukq04$cd8$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
>
> Hi mortal Malaysians!
>
> Good news! We at Mamak Team are proud to announce our website and
> our upcoming 3D game called Cricyst that has been in development
> for over 3 years!
>
> Malaysia compared to other Malaysian game company wannabees.
>
> to get first hand information about our best high quality 3D shooter
> in the style of RayStorm.. (better than Raystorm)
> Please, only Internet Explorer 5.0 users are welcomed.
> We do not support other browsers and have no plans to.
>
> lighting will be implemented too using DirectX 7 SDK.
>
> We proudly proclaim to be the first REAL games development team
> from Malaysia to use the latest technology such as the GeForce256
> based GPU chipsets.
>
> Visit us now! This project has taken us painstakenly 3 years and
> more to do and it's nearing completion.
>
> Our arsenals of best programmers you can ever find in Malaysia
> are highly experienced in graphics programming, and our
> best artists are ANIME experts in 3D mechs using Kinetix 3D studio
> max for the art and models.
>
> We are proud to introduce ourselves, the immortal Malaysians :)
> below:
>
> 1. RISC - Project organizer and quality control.
> 2. Astral - Lead programmer for game and engine.
> 3. Flash - Tools programmer and professional algorithm expert.
> 4. Xakhon - Kinetix 3D Studio MAX artist and expert Mech designer.
> 5. Asuka - Kinetix 3D Studio MAX artist and graphics quality control
> department.
>
>
> Visit us at our websites soon, Cricyst will rock the world and
> trigger an earthquake in Malaysia. We may not be the first, but
> we are definitely going to be the BEST (We are technically there
> already..) Unlike other soon to be dead or already dead self-proclaimed
> Malaysian Game Development companies, we are the real ones and
> have very highly skilled programmers and artists who are the best
> there is in Malaysia. Other game companies wannabes are either dying
> or dead. Long Live the Mamak Team !!!! Wooh! Wooh! Wooh! Wooh!
>
>
>
> The Mamak Team. (We are the Best!)
Bali-Peng
Syed Mohammad Khairil
all excited.
Ask a established game reviewer like
cnet.com/gamercenter.com/gamersdepot.com
pcworld.com 2 review your game-lah.
If they give thumbs up, then only then kaypoh lah my friend.
B4 that don't make noise.
"It's not what you know, it's what you do with what you know"
End!
Charger
Syed Mohammad Khairil <kha...@mimos.my> wrote in message
news:380EB2CF...@mimos.my...
Charger
or..err....5?
lemme see......when was the 1st time i play C&C
1994 or 95?
Bali-Peng <jas...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1279389c3...@news.tm.net.my...
chronicler
can
definetely say that it was the best during its time, and until now, I have
yet to see
any better ones.. (there probably has to be, but I've given up on playing
MUDs, so
havent checked in quite a while.)
Now, problem was, its their admin's cocky attitude that finally done them
in.. Lesson
to be learnt there.. :)
mama...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Guan Foo Wah wrote:
> >
> >
> > Maybe these guys doesn't know the proper way of designing things. Only
> go
> > for the best while ignoring the rest.
>
> We know the best way and right way. We won't waste time on non-IE5
> users. IE5 has the best features any web developer can dream of, so
> we will use it's features and stick with it.
>
> > And they are so damn cocky, from what I can see from their postings.
>
> There is nothing wrong with that as long as you know you are good
> enough and the best.
Well.. see above.. being cocky is one thing. Pissing off your potential
customers
is another..
> >
> > Their game might impresses some people, but not to me simply because
> they
> > are so damn cocky.
> The game has already impressed many people here in Johor Bahru.
> We are already well-known and we dare say no one from Penang
> or KL can even come close to what we have.
>
> >
> > To MamakTeam,
> > Your team will not get much respect from people even you have done a
> good
> > job in your game. You better rethink your strategies before your team
> really
> > get a bad name.
>
> We're highly respected in Johor and just ask any PC shops in Holiday
> plaza and they'll know who we are. As for bad name, nah, people will
> remember us for our 3D masterpiece. Don't be too jealous of us. :P
Dont need to be, 3D game design is at the very bottom of my interest. And I
seldom go for 3D games anyways.
>
> > And your method of promoting your team and your game is totally wrong.
> You
> > shouln't say that other local game developer are failure just to prove
> that
> > you are better. If they are not able to publish a game, so what? What
> do
> > they have to do with you? They insulted you or something that they
> deserved
> > to be shamed by YOU???
>
> Hahah, other local game developers ARE failures! Don't you think so ?
> They've not come up with anything that is of international standards,
> and only know how to publish crap old dos products. If these kind of
> people can win PIKOM, then i suppose we can win international game
> programming competitions then ? haha.
See above again.. Success is the easy part. Maintaining it is another :)
> >
> > And if your game is technically superior, that doesn't mean you have
> to get
> > cocky. Be nice to everyone and people will respect you. I have seen
> many
> > good graphic programmers, game programmers out in the net from USA,
> Europe
> > and they are not cocky although they are exellent in programming. So
> why
> > should you get cocky?
> >
> > AND YOU WILL PUT ALL MALAYSIANS TO SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The rest of
> the
> > world will think that Malaysians are rude just because of your team.
> >
> > Doesn't anyone else here agree with my statement ???
>
> Who do you think you are ? what HAVE you done ? what ARE your
> credentials ? Another degree holder with the EGO up there ?
>
> You claimed to have written a game, mind sharing what is it about
> with us ? :)
Well, we all know who we are. There are those of us who have done what we
specialise in.
Being cocky is one thing.. I gotta admit that most professionals in almost
every field has the
same attitude. But there is also how well do you know yourselves?
But tell me something. Exactly how well do you think you will do with an
attitude like that?
Sure, people may like your games, but what's to stop them from pirating it?
Think about it.. The
more people are annonyed with your attitude, the less likely they are to
fork out money for
an original copy. Copy protection? In the old conflict between warhead and
armour, the warhead
will always win in the end.
You talk about reality. There's more to reality than just coding skill
alone.
Think about it :)
ciao!
The Chronicler
>
> From,
>
> The Mamakteam.
>
> We bring Malaysian 3D to your Malaysian world.
chronicler
mama...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Guan Foo Wah wrote:
> >
> > If you don't have a demo, at least you can post some screen shots!!!!
> And
> > you have none!
>
> Soon there will be 3D real-time screenshots. AND downloadable
> versions of the game!
>
> >
> > Define REAL GAME. Many people has done a game before including me. So
> you
> > are definetely not the first.
>
> REAL GAME as in 3D REal-tIME. Unlike other local game developers
> that either do 2D only games or have none at all, we will bring
> Half-life and Quake2 quality 3D game, for Malaysians, by Malaysians.
> Real game as in a game that is programmed by professional teams
> specializing in DirectX and Win32 instead of half-assed DOS
> programmers who writes 2D shooters.
> >
> > Your big loss. Sounds like you guys are incompetent. Supports only the
> best
> > and ignore the rest.
>
> Microsoft has the largest command of market share, and soon IE5
> will be too, if it isn't already. Why support multiple browsers
> and waste time when you only need to support the one and only best ?
> IE5 is so convenient and the security of hiding the javascript
> makes it an ideal platform. Get real, Microsoft is THE standard
> and we wouldn't endorse any other browsers or products not from
> MS. You anti-microsofties are just too hard-headed to realize
> the real world. Besides, webpages on IE5 makes them more sophisticated
> than those from netscrap.
Do you realise the real world then? So tell me, what do you know of
marketting,
buyer behaviours, etc.? Microsoft is only the standard to the blind.
>
> > So, I wonder what is the requirement of your games????
> >
> > Let me guess.....
> > AMD 1GHZ
> > 4GB RAM
> > 100GB Harddisk
> > GeForce256 only
> > and we have no plans to support lesser machine. We are the best of the
> best.
> > So we support only the best!!!!!!
> >
> > Get REAL!
> >
>
> No, YOU GET REAL. Why consider the lower-end hardware when the
> game players always have the most updated hardware?! Who the hell
> wants to have a slow system if playing games ? So it's not wrong
> to require the best hardware for our game!
Sure.. nothing wrong with that.. But reality check once again. Have you done
your marketting work yet?
> >
> > I have seen many promising things, and most of them, lives not up to
> the
> > hype.
>
> We will live up to it, We will make sure we win the PIKOM finals
> for multimedia Title. We will beat the other titles and competitors
> off the multimedia market.
Ego again.. soon, one of you is gonna think that he/she has contributed more
work
than the others, and deserves more credit. Then comes the tempting thought
that you
will not need the rest of the group members, and start to strike out on your
own.
Then comes the breakup of the group and the lawsuits to see who owns what
code :)
Hey.. u guys better watch ya backs.. Who knows who in your team is having
really
high ambitions there :P
>
> > And please, you might be techically good, but that means you are not
> the
> > best. Don't be so over confident.
> > Saying you are the best while shunning others. That is not the right
> way.
> >
>
> Haha, but we ARE the best ? Do you see any other 3D game development
> companies in Malaysia ? hahahaha. None! Most can't even do proper
> 2D games, much less 3D games ? Too many lamers around who can't
> really code. Like i said, we will show Malaysians that we are the
> best, and you WILL agree with us.
Seriously.. I think that your main problem will be in persuading people to
buy original
copies of your game and not just pirate.. Now that is reality. Code and
gamewise,
you might be a success.. but does the rest of the world care? :)
> > And please, have something to show on your webpage before posting to
> the
> > others.
> > Otherwise that will makes people thinks that you promised something
> but you
> > have nothing to show.
> > Some screenshots will do.
> >
> > And don't sound that cocky. You will get flamed.
>
> Haha, flamed ? what's that ? It doesn't exist in my dictionary. :P
>
> From,
>
> The Mamakteam,
> risc,astral,flash,xakhon,asuka.
Syed Mohammad Khairil
What about MKA ... Most Kaypoh Award..... mamakteam sure win 1.
BTW, why mamakteam ?
1.) They are all "mamak" ?
End!
Alistair wrote:
> > Charger wrote:
> > >
> > > *tsk* *tsk*
> > > how rude.....
> > > I think u need to have a good PR training..... <sigh>
> > >
> > > <mama...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:7um1m4$8h0$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > >
> > > > None of your Business!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The MamakTeam.
> > > >
> >
> > I think what he meant was, he wants none of our businesses....8-)
>
> Not so loud!!! they might hear you...lol
>
> Forget about the game, I motion that we confer MamakTeam the Winner of :-
>
> 1. Malaysian Worst Public Relation Award
> 2. Most Rotten Reverse-Psychology Marketing Strategy Award (Meaning :
> Pissing off the whole world and hope that one blue moon they will go
> insane(the potential customer) and come back to stuff money into their
> pocket, <sigh> I must admit that they are succeeding very well.)
Alistair
cHiBiMaRuKo
| versions of the game!
|
Good, but what's the point if your page isn't viewable to all?
|
| Microsoft has the largest command of market share, and soon IE5
| will be too, if it isn't already. Why support multiple browsers
| and waste time when you only need to support the one and only best ?
| IE5 is so convenient and the security of hiding the javascript
| makes it an ideal platform. Get real, Microsoft is THE standard
| and we wouldn't endorse any other browsers or products not from
| MS. You anti-microsofties are just too hard-headed to realize
| the real world. Besides, webpages on IE5 makes them more sophisticated
| than those from netscrap.
Largest command of share? Yes, it's true but that figure is for the whole
world man. In Malaysia, more than 70% Internet users use Netscape
Communicator/Navigator for surfing. I know IE5 is the best browser but the
number 1 rule of a very good webpage is support for leading browsers. What
do you think about Netscape? A minority?. And web standard is not determined
by Microsoft but the W3 consortium ( have you ever heard of that ?).
Netscape is the strict follower of W3 standard and when NC5 come out,
Netscape-specific HTML codes is history. Your webpage, while is nice but no
NC support make it the lowest quality webpage I've ever known and see. If
you can't ever design a decent webpage that viewable by all people out
there, IE fans and anti-microsoft alike, I only maybe come into the
conclusions that you can't ever design a decent game either.
| We know the best way and right way. We won't waste time on non-IE5
| users. IE5 has the best features any web developer can dream of, so
| we will use it's features and stick with it.
Poor attitude, at least from me.
| >
|
| No, YOU GET REAL. Why consider the lower-end hardware when the
| game players always have the most updated hardware?! Who the hell
| wants to have a slow system if playing games ? So it's not wrong
| to require the best hardware for our game!
You can play Unreal Tournament on a pentium mmx PC smoothly. Not everyone
has the sources to upgrade their computers especially in this current
economic situation.
| We will live up to it, We will make sure we win the PIKOM finals
| for multimedia Title. We will beat the other titles and competitors
| off the multimedia market.
Good luck then...:)
|
| Haha, but we ARE the best ? Do you see any other 3D game development
| companies in Malaysia ? hahahaha. None! Most can't even do proper
| 2D games, much less 3D games ? Too many lamers around who can't
| really code. Like i said, we will show Malaysians that we are the
| best, and you WILL agree with us.
| There is nothing wrong with that as long as you know you are good
| enough and the best.
The best among the Malaysian or among the world? You can compete with the
like of epic megagames and id software programmers?
| The game has already impressed many people here in Johor Bahru.
| We are already well-known and we dare say no one from Penang
| or KL can even come close to what we have.
|
Beta tester you mean?. Damn. If you think that you're pretty good, best of
the best, then try to impress the guys at http://www.avault.com or
http://www.sharkyextreme.com etc.
then by giving a demo. No point to point out that 'we are famous at JB' or
something like that. I don't to discourage local programmers like the mamak
team; instead I'm proud if they can produce something that can give Q3A and
UT or Halflife guys a run for their money.
Charger
chronicler <chron...@diespammers.com> wrote in message
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Charger
BTW, 1 person mistake, we couldnt blame the rest right?
We still havent find out about the rest of the team, only the poster is
cocky.....
If the rest are fine......then i really pitied them having to work with this
cowboy with a pissed off attitude
Charger
Eh, come let's play quake3
the local server admin is very friendly :)
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Wahlau-eh the News-Man
>supporting only IE browsers and not Netscape browsers, it'll also make me
>wonder what your game doesn't support...
hmm.. good, first fully-supported-linux game! ;)
regards,
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<mama...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7umaki$ef4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Guan Foo Wah wrote:
> >
> > If you don't have a demo, at least you can post some screen shots!!!!
> And
> > you have none!
>
> Soon there will be 3D real-time screenshots. AND downloadable
> versions of the game!
>
> >
> > Define REAL GAME. Many people has done a game before including me. So
> you
> > are definetely not the first.
>
> REAL GAME as in 3D REal-tIME. Unlike other local game developers
> that either do 2D only games or have none at all, we will bring
> Half-life and Quake2 quality 3D game, for Malaysians, by Malaysians.
> Real game as in a game that is programmed by professional teams
> specializing in DirectX and Win32 instead of half-assed DOS
> programmers who writes 2D shooters.
> >
> > Your big loss. Sounds like you guys are incompetent. Supports only the
> best
> > and ignore the rest.
>
> Microsoft has the largest command of market share, and soon IE5
> will be too, if it isn't already. Why support multiple browsers
> and waste time when you only need to support the one and only best ?
> IE5 is so convenient and the security of hiding the javascript
> makes it an ideal platform. Get real, Microsoft is THE standard
> and we wouldn't endorse any other browsers or products not from
> MS. You anti-microsofties are just too hard-headed to realize
> the real world. Besides, webpages on IE5 makes them more sophisticated
> than those from netscrap.
>
> > So, I wonder what is the requirement of your games????
> >
> > Let me guess.....
> > AMD 1GHZ
> > 4GB RAM
> > 100GB Harddisk
> > GeForce256 only
> > and we have no plans to support lesser machine. We are the best of the
> best.
> > So we support only the best!!!!!!
> >
> > Get REAL!
> >
>
> No, YOU GET REAL. Why consider the lower-end hardware when the
> game players always have the most updated hardware?! Who the hell
> wants to have a slow system if playing games ? So it's not wrong
> to require the best hardware for our game!
> >
> > I have seen many promising things, and most of them, lives not up to
> the
> > hype.
>
> We will live up to it, We will make sure we win the PIKOM finals
> for multimedia Title. We will beat the other titles and competitors
> off the multimedia market.
>
> > And please, you might be techically good, but that means you are not
> the
> > best. Don't be so over confident.
> > Saying you are the best while shunning others. That is not the right
> way.
> >
>
> Haha, but we ARE the best ? Do you see any other 3D game development
> companies in Malaysia ? hahahaha. None! Most can't even do proper
> 2D games, much less 3D games ? Too many lamers around who can't
> really code. Like i said, we will show Malaysians that we are the
> best, and you WILL agree with us.
>
Guan Foo Wah
> plaza and they'll know who we are. As for bad name, nah, people will
> remember us for our 3D masterpiece. Don't be too jealous of us. :P
If you are friendly, then you will have my support. Now you don't.
> Another degree holder with the EGO up there ?
You are the one who is having all the ego. And I am not old enough to have a
degree.
Guan Foo Wah
> yelling here in the commies saying your team
> will be the FIRST REAL Malaysian game dev.
>
> i guess no one likes "NATO" attitude here..
Yep. No one like that. Lets go boycott them.
Pay no attention to them from now on. Reply non of their mails, even tough
it piss you off or anything like that.
Maybe after sometime, they will leave and go quiet.
MamakTeam, until you make a major sugery to your attitude, you will not get
my support. I will not reply to this thread anymore from now on. I have
already wasted enough time.
Shankar
Netscape has a large following.
FS TSD
graphics at all ! .... U reminded me of good old days where can MUD 24hrs a
day non-stop .... I got rid of that bad habit already :)
chronicler <chron...@diespammers.com> wrote in message
news:380ECAB7...@diespammers.com...
> Hmm.. u know what? There was this MUD I used to play at, called Sojourn. I
> can
> definetely say that it was the best during its time, and until now, I have
> yet to see
> any better ones.. (there probably has to be, but I've given up on playing
> MUDs, so
> havent checked in quite a while.)
> Now, problem was, its their admin's cocky attitude that finally done them
> in.. Lesson
> to be learnt there.. :)
>
> mama...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > Guan Foo Wah wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe these guys doesn't know the proper way of designing things. Only
> > go
> > > for the best while ignoring the rest.
> >
> > We know the best way and right way. We won't waste time on non-IE5
> > users. IE5 has the best features any web developer can dream of, so
> > we will use it's features and stick with it.
> >
> > > And they are so damn cocky, from what I can see from their postings.
> >
> > There is nothing wrong with that as long as you know you are good
> > enough and the best.
>
> Well.. see above.. being cocky is one thing. Pissing off your potential
> customers
> is another..
>
>
> > >
> > > Their game might impresses some people, but not to me simply because
> > they
> > > are so damn cocky.
> > The game has already impressed many people here in Johor Bahru.
> > We are already well-known and we dare say no one from Penang
> > or KL can even come close to what we have.
> >
> > >
> > > To MamakTeam,
> > > Your team will not get much respect from people even you have done a
> > good
> > > job in your game. You better rethink your strategies before your team
> > really
> > > get a bad name.
> >
> > We're highly respected in Johor and just ask any PC shops in Holiday
> > plaza and they'll know who we are. As for bad name, nah, people will
> > remember us for our 3D masterpiece. Don't be too jealous of us. :P
>
Dana Chow
of place where everyone knows everyones... be polite ler... before you
get screw up
Dana Chow
I don't play games at the first place, err, even if I do, that
will the Solitair on the microsoft windows... kih kih kih ... but I
still must praise you on your "success" in developing sucha game geh,
even though my fellow kommies said u haven't post any demo and things
like that to satisfy their curiosity, and even you sounded rude in our
newsgroups, and you make non-sensible comments that most will just
take it as joke-of-the-day. But it is still something worth
congratulating geh... after all u people have did it with high hope
and hard work....
And also is worth mention because you all have the outstanding
courage in telling people about these... with lotsa pride in within
too... not worrying if it is something actually lousy (not sure yet,
just putting as example.)
It comes a long way before you will actually get a nod from people
and approve from them upon ur success. And I bet u know that better
than me. Not that you have done anything wrong from creating this
game, but u have have good PR yet... and there are doinks out there
that would love testing your patience and they exist every where...
tau lah macam mana buat ye ?
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"BUG : An elusive creature living in a program that make it incorrect.
The activity of "debugging", or removing bugs from a program, ends
when people are tire of doing it, not when the bugs are all removed "
Bali-Peng
+0800 but somehow...
> Seriously.. I think that your main problem will be in persuading people to
> buy original
> copies of your game and not just pirate.. Now that is reality. Code and
> gamewise,
> you might be a success.. but does the rest of the world care? :)
Seriously, these guys wanted to be voted as gamers of the years... much
like Roberta Williams, Chris Roberts, John Romero....
Bali-Peng
but somehow...
> Isnt it 4 years?
> or..err....5?
> lemme see......when was the 1st time i play C&C
> 1994 or 95?
It's 3 years. It's 1995. They didn't start the project until 1996...
Rkaru
>
> In article <380e1...@news2.tm.net.my>,
> "Charger" <Cha...@thamcw.8m.com> wrote:
> > Cool.....
> > BTW, are the softwares you all use legal version?
> > <chuckle>
> >
> >
>
> None of your Business!!
Ooooo...temper...temper. That's no way to treat a potential customer.
Maybe you guys gto too bigheaded b4 you even started?
--
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"Heh...heh...."
Celeron300A
1.NO PR so rude
2.why no demo?
3.Sent to game review centre over the NET so then u know ur game create a
mass earthquake in Earth!
4.No body can claim they are BEST until proven world-wide
5.Why use Deja-News server? No local IP server kah?
6.DX 7? forget bout it.
8.Damn stupid developer! U think everybody had GEforce a like card?my self
still using the old matrox MGA G100 [but better that Savage3D]
9.So eksy!
10. How much it would cost in the 2001?[assume u roll out next year]
Think B4 u write
Bye
Celeron300A
i'm using Netscape Gold 3.01 but still can acess the server.
Trick? disable the java script ler...HAHAHA
Celeron300A wrote in message <7unb5v$1hf$1...@news5.jaring.my>...
Rkaru
>
>
> Doesn't anyone else here agree with my statement ???
Aye! These guys are already in my bad books. No matter how earth
shattering their so-far-non-existent game will be, I won't be buying it.
So there!
Rkaru
>
> > Please, only Internet Explorer 5.0 users are welcomed.
> > We do not support other browsers and have no plans to.
> Your big loss. Sounds like you guys are incompetent. Supports only the best
> and ignore the rest.
yeah...and who say's it's the best anyway. It's a matter of opinion,
right?
> So, I wonder what is the requirement of your games????
>
> Let me guess.....
> AMD 1GHZ
> 4GB RAM
> 100GB Harddisk
> GeForce256 only
> and we have no plans to support lesser machine. We are the best of the best.
> So we support only the best!!!!!!
>
> Get REAL!
ROTFLOL.....good one there!
> And please, have something to show on your webpage before posting to the
> others.
Vaporware! Guess they learned from M$. Oh...of course, only the best for
them, right?
(Disclaimer: By the above sentence, in no way am I proclaiming M$ as the
best.)
Rkaru
> ======
> : If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t.
Hey, I think your sign-off above would fit this guy aptly.
Wahlau-eh the News-Man
>> None of your Business!!
>Ooooo...temper...temper. That's no way to treat a potential customer.
>Maybe you guys gto too bigheaded b4 you even started?
i sense much fear in him...
regards,
wahlau-eh... StarWars!
Charger
Bali-Peng <jas...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1279aacdb...@news.tm.net.my...
Dana Chow
§tarGazer
Homo Sapien
Those so-called lame shooters are still plenty fun to play.... (ahh brings
back great memories... back to the age of innovations and less hype).
If you think you are so damn good... you better be. otherwise if I ever get
my hands on your stuff and I find that it is not even half as good as you
claim it to be... you will get a flaming review posted by me (you'll know
where when it happens).
<mama...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7um36o$9jh$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <380df...@news.tm.net.my>,
> "Alistair" <alist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 3 years and not even a demo up, by the time you guys finish the
> project, MS
> > should be releasing DirectX 10.
> >
>
> That's because QUALITY is the most important factor in our projects
> and all the members agree.
>
> Unlike the other so called Local game developers (You know who you are)
> who churn out half-assed quality product that cannot even compete
> with the quality sharewares from international markets, we guarantee
> that our game will beat Raystorm and have at least Quake2/Half-Life
> quality.
>
> Expect lotsa 3D special fx features that will mesmerize your eyes
> using the latest Directx 7.0 and it will support transformations and
> lighting in Hardware using GeForce256 chipsets.
>
> Just in case anyone can't remember, let me remind you of the so called
> local game companies that are officially dead and out of business
> for inactivity or page change
>
> Exceron of Ziron multimedia... http://www.ziron.com now the 'expert'
> is spamming newsgroups trying to sell his web commerce software.
>
> Webworks from hitechniaga and their 3 big game projs that is now
> reduced to one called destiny that hasn't shown any progress yet.
> No more news since 2 years ago. No web update for long long time.
>
> IISB who released that lame low-res 8-bit 2-bit 2D shooter that isn't
> fit to be called the First game of Malaysia because it only shames
> our beloved country's name.
>
>
> We will be the FIRST REAL Malaysian game developer who releases
> the FIRST REAL GAME with the FIRST to use high-quality 3D engines!
>
>
>
> We will ROCK the world and destroy the other local game companies
> and humiliate their pathetic existence.. (They do not deserve to
> exist for putting out crap or nothing in the first place)
>
>
> From,
> The MamakTeam ... We're the best, as always.
Homo Sapien
That is a very long winded and rude way of saying 'we're too lazy to do
otherwise'.
Lee Yow Chuan
particular header...
I think we should all stop posting anymore in this header, coz why
talk to someone who doesn't appreciate you?
I wouldn't comment on the game, coz no one really seen it.
But as a businessman, if he/she can't accept comments or suggestions
given by the consumers, how would he/she be able to understand what
others needed? Wasn't this a very basic rule of thumb? I don't think
we need to hold a degree in Management to understand this simple
statement.
How about the issue of designing their site to be viewed by only IE5
browsers?
Since 3 years is already taken to materialize such a major project,
why not at least take another 3 weeks to make the site a
multi-browsable one?
Pardon me if I am wrong, but shouldn't a website be multi-browsable in
order to reach a wider range of audience out there? This will make the
consumer think that these developers are considerate. Otherwise, they
will feel kind of isolated.
And as for needing the most up-to-date hardware to play a game, what
would most people think? Okay, this will make a game more powerful,
either in graphics or interface, but what's the point if it can't sell
to a wider range of consumers?
I mean, all these actually is easily concluded into a simple sentence:
"treat others as you would one others to treat you"
or basically, understand the word "human".(this is the species you are
dealing with, anyway)
And good luck to the mamakteam too. You guys have a very bright
prospect but don't let it go to your head.
In business, customer comes first.
Thank you (hey, where's the clapping?)
(no harm intended)
YC
mama...@my-deja.com
I am not rude, just proud of our elite team's achievements.
> 2.why no demo?
We are adding tranformation and lighting features to the game
so that it will utilize the GeForce256 chipsets. Be patient. :)
> 3.Sent to game review centre over the NET so then u know ur game
create a
> mass earthquake in Earth!
Our game WILL create a mass earthquake in Malaysia and we will
crush the other local 'game developers' who are not fit to
be called 'game developers' because they put out nothing or just
put out pure lame crap.
> 4.No body can claim they are BEST until proven world-wide
We are the best there is in Malaysia, or South East Asia even.
Do you see know of any other REAL game developers in Malaysia
or even Singapore ?
> 5.Why use Deja-News server? No local IP server kah?
It protects me from being spammed by unwanted emails.
> 6.DX 7? forget bout it.
Why ? You can't forget about DX 7 just as you can't forget about
DX 6.1 You cannot ignore technology, you must embrace it. :)
And we proudly declare ourselves, the Mamakteam, to be the first
REAL game development group that also is the first to use the
DirectX API and version 7.0 at that.
> 8.Damn stupid developer! U think everybody had GEforce a like card?my
self
> still using the old matrox MGA G100 [but better that Savage3D]
That is your loss. You are not a genuine game player anyway.
The real game players will want GeForce256 because that is how
all the cards will go in the future.
> 9.So eksy!
Not really, we think we deserve to feel that way because we sweat
for 3 years to make the game. We put a lot of effort into the game
and the game dev tools that we custome made for ourselves. We think
we deserve the right to be , in your words 'eksy'.
> 10. How much it would cost in the 2001?[assume u roll out next year]
The game will cost less than RM 30 ringgit and it will be a download
from the Internet after you pay for them. We have no plans as of yet
to stamp CDs or make boxes, but we will not rule that option out.
>
> Think B4 u write
>
Of course I do...
Regards,
Risc, The Project Leader of MamakTeam.
mama...@my-deja.com
No we won't. IE5 is THE STANDARD browser and will remain so in the
future. It is feature rich for web developers like me who works
in Singapore. It works very well with VB developed programs.
Anyone who don't use IE5 is seriously screwed up in the head.
Let's face it, IE5 is the future and soon all websites will
support IE5 only feature sets.
> i'm using Netscape Gold 3.01 but still can acess the server.
> Trick? disable the java script ler...HAHAHA
>
Sure you can, but you can't get to see anything or even the
news page. Bare in mind that only IE5 can decode the jscript.encode
encrypted javascripts. One more reason we use IE5 like i said, is
the encryption of javascripts so that lamers and thiefs can't
steal our javascript codes. IE5 users should notice the kool
transitions and wipe effects on the webpage. :)
Now we certainly do not want people who can't code, to enhance
THEIR own website by stealing our code, do we ? :)
Regards,
Risc,
the Mamakteam project leader, organizer, marketer.
Michael Ooi
u think what ? we Penang folks so cheap aa ? play such no standard game from
someone who does not even listed on Gamespot or magazines ? Well ... if you
think u are so good .... send us the demo ..... lets see how much spit u can
gather in 1 hour
<mama...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7umc7e$fau$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Guan Foo Wah wrote:
> >
> >
> > Maybe these guys doesn't know the proper way of designing things. Only
> go
> > for the best while ignoring the rest.
>
> We know the best way and right way. We won't waste time on non-IE5
> users. IE5 has the best features any web developer can dream of, so
> we will use it's features and stick with it.
>
> > And they are so damn cocky, from what I can see from their postings.
>
> There is nothing wrong with that as long as you know you are good
> enough and the best.
> >
> > Their game might impresses some people, but not to me simply because
> they
> > are so damn cocky.
> The game has already impressed many people here in Johor Bahru.
> We are already well-known and we dare say no one from Penang
> or KL can even come close to what we have.
>
> >
> > To MamakTeam,
> > Your team will not get much respect from people even you have done a
> good
> > job in your game. You better rethink your strategies before your team
> really
> > get a bad name.
>
> We're highly respected in Johor and just ask any PC shops in Holiday
> plaza and they'll know who we are. As for bad name, nah, people will
> remember us for our 3D masterpiece. Don't be too jealous of us. :P
>
> > And your method of promoting your team and your game is totally wrong.
> You
> > shouln't say that other local game developer are failure just to prove
> that
> > you are better. If they are not able to publish a game, so what? What
> do
> > they have to do with you? They insulted you or something that they
> deserved
> > to be shamed by YOU???
>
> Hahah, other local game developers ARE failures! Don't you think so ?
> They've not come up with anything that is of international standards,
> and only know how to publish crap old dos products. If these kind of
> people can win PIKOM, then i suppose we can win international game
> programming competitions then ? haha.
>
> >
> > And if your game is technically superior, that doesn't mean you have
> to get
> > cocky. Be nice to everyone and people will respect you. I have seen
> many
> > good graphic programmers, game programmers out in the net from USA,
> Europe
> > and they are not cocky although they are exellent in programming. So
> why
> > should you get cocky?
> >
> > AND YOU WILL PUT ALL MALAYSIANS TO SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The rest of
> the
> > world will think that Malaysians are rude just because of your team.
> >
> > Doesn't anyone else here agree with my statement ???
>
> Who do you think you are ? what HAVE you done ? what ARE your
> credentials ? Another degree holder with the EGO up there ?
>
> You claimed to have written a game, mind sharing what is it about
> with us ? :)
>
>
> From,
>
> The Mamakteam.
>
> We bring Malaysian 3D to your Malaysian world.
>
>
Michael Ooi
....
probably ... i imagine ... they are going to put their cheat codes as
"teh tarik" == to be immortal
"roti canai" == to get all credits by 10 000 units
"teh halia" == to clear map
"murtabak" == to end the mission
Bali-Peng <jas...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1279aa254...@news.tm.net.my...
> (chronicler) might have cited this topic on Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:19:33
> +0800 but somehow...
>
> > Seriously.. I think that your main problem will be in persuading people
to
> > buy original
> > copies of your game and not just pirate.. Now that is reality. Code and
> > gamewise,
> > you might be a success.. but does the rest of the world care? :)
>
> Seriously, these guys wanted to be voted as gamers of the years... much
> like Roberta Williams, Chris Roberts, John Romero....
Bali-Peng
+0800 but somehow...
> Bro Bali Peng ... do u think these mamak team going to hit the market ? nah
> ....
>
> probably ... i imagine ... they are going to put their cheat codes as
> "teh tarik" == to be immortal
> "roti canai" == to get all credits by 10 000 units
> "teh halia" == to clear map
> "murtabak" == to end the mission
Haha, good one bro... if in adventure game, ever password should be
MAMAK...
Bali-Peng
topic on Fri, 22 Oct 1999 01:00:39 +0800 but somehow...
> Hey don't be lame by shooting that so called lame low-res 8-bit shooter.
> Those so-called lame shooters are still plenty fun to play.... (ahh brings
> back great memories... back to the age of innovations and less hype).
>
> If you think you are so damn good... you better be. otherwise if I ever get
> my hands on your stuff and I find that it is not even half as good as you
> claim it to be... you will get a flaming review posted by me (you'll know
> where when it happens).
Ah yes bro... Galaga... Space Invaders... ah... those were the days...
Syed Mohammad Khairil
cHiBiMaRuKo
say...
:In article <7unb5v$1hf$1...@news5.jaring.my>,
:
: I am not rude, just proud of our elite team's achievements.
Ok if you aren't rude as what do you think, please answer this question;
Did the software you use is all legal question ( e.g. 3D Studio Max ).
:> 2.why no demo?
:
: We are adding tranformation and lighting features to the game
: so that it will utilize the GeForce256 chipsets. Be patient. :)
:
:> 3.Sent to game review centre over the NET so then u know ur game
:create a
:> mass earthquake in Earth!
:
: Our game WILL create a mass earthquake in Malaysia and we will
: crush the other local 'game developers' who are not fit to
: be called 'game developers' because they put out nothing or just
: put out pure lame crap.
:
:> 4.No body can claim they are BEST until proven world-wide
:
: We are the best there is in Malaysia, or South East Asia even.
: Do you see know of any other REAL game developers in Malaysia
: or even Singapore ?
:
:> 5.Why use Deja-News server? No local IP server kah?
: It protects me from being spammed by unwanted emails.
I use Microplanet Gravity, tweaked some settings and nobody can spammed
me now ( have learned some tricks ). Maybe you doesn't ever know how to
configure a news reader.
:> 6.DX 7? forget bout it.
: Why ? You can't forget about DX 7 just as you can't forget about
: DX 6.1 You cannot ignore technology, you must embrace it. :)
: And we proudly declare ourselves, the Mamakteam, to be the first
: REAL game development group that also is the first to use the
: DirectX API and version 7.0 at that.
The first team that use DirectX API? Wow, I think Halflife and other
games must have used other APIs then.
:> 8.Damn stupid developer! U think everybody had GEforce a like card?my
:self
:> still using the old matrox MGA G100 [but better that Savage3D]
:
: That is your loss. You are not a genuine game player anyway.
: The real game players will want GeForce256 because that is how
: all the cards will go in the future.
How with G400 MAX, Savage2000 and Voodoo4 then? You support S3TC and
FXTx? My GeForce sucks on my Athlon. Savage4 is much better.
:> 9.So eksy!
:
: Not really, we think we deserve to feel that way because we sweat
: for 3 years to make the game. We put a lot of effort into the game
: and the game dev tools that we custome made for ourselves. We think
Other companies do that too, but they don't get cocky.
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cHiBiMaRuKo <Don't reply to to me idiots...read the signature
>
> Ok if you aren't rude as what do you think, please answer this
question;
>
> Did the software you use is all legal question ( e.g. 3D Studio Max ).
>
Why does it matter to you ? :)
Regards,
The MamakTeam.
mama...@my-deja.com
>
> hello.
>
> I'm sorry, these people have just pissed me off seriously with their
> flippant and inconsiderate remarks and... I've... got... to...
reply... for
> the sake of... mental well-being and... and the maintanence (is that
> correct?)... of my sunny... (if slightly... concussed)... disposition.
Let's just put it this way, you're just jealous of our team's
achievements.
> So I'll do it by dissecting their article and making fun of the bits.
Let's
> get to it, shall we?
OOoo... Sounds like some jealous grape can't sit still and put up with
our abilities and masterpiece.
> Assumptions, assumptions. Let's get this straight. No matter what
Micro$loth
> says, IE5 cannot and must not be the industry standard browser. It
cannot be
> made the standard because of the things Microsoft would do to the HTML
> standard. Would you like to *have* to upgrade your browser every few
months
> with patches, just so you can view the bestest 'pages? Do you want
your
> beloved HTML to become a "close-standard" markup language, full of
> propetiery (ooh, big word, probably misspelt...) features that would
make
> designing homepages a big pain in the derriere? Course not... that's
why
> HTML is still open-standard... I think. Of course, the same should
apply to
> Netscape, of course.
They said that about Microsoft Windows unable to become the standard
OS of choice. Come on let's face it. Linux won't ever take over
Windows. Linux is just too crappy and only techies who can't make
money with their programming skills will use it or even code for it.
Too many lamers in Malaysia installing linux just so they can compile
those net exploits and call themselves hackers.
But back to IE5... It will take over the browser market as a standard,
whether you like it or not. Microsoft has always won every round and
i fully will not endorse development tools or API not from Microsoft.
Opengl is a piece of slow crap. It's slower than Direct3D. I can't
believe people are putting up with that crash bug called Netscrap.
> HAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!! *cough* *cough* *cough*. *ahem*. How foolish.
Even a
> little child like me can see that flaws on that statement.
So grow up and accept it as the truth and fact. :)
> Besides, what sort of idiot would judge the sanity of another by the
browser
> they use? Begging your presence, boys.
People who denounce Microsoft, are people who are jealous of
multi-millionair corporations and Bill Gates' successes.
We will aim to be the Microsoft of Malaysia, but in Games development.
> Oh... and this feature is only available to IE5 users. Why can't you
guys
> use Macromedia Flash, like homeworld.net, or newgrounds.com, or
> joecartoon.com, or so many other sites?
Macromedia are tools for woosies. I can't believe they can allow
crap companies like Articulate Multimedia to win PIKOM when they
are using crappy non-programmer tools like Macromedia. They're so
lame. They do not deserved to be called programmers.
> I'm sorry, friend... if you're gonna close your site to a large
portion (or
> a small portion, if any of their bluster is to be believed) of the
market,
> perhaps your product (that 3D whasit you've spent 3 years of your life
> making) Deserves To Lose. Ever heard of the Foonly, The Hacker Dream
Gone
> Wrong? It's somewhere in the Jargon File...
Oh i'm sorry for you too friend, you will miss out a lot of upcoming
goodies that will soon be up on our website. IE5 market share is much
more than whatchamightcallit Netscrap.
> Why not? Would you appreciate it if people who want to learn how to
code
> Java to rip off portions of your code to study it cannot do so? No?
Oh, all
> right then. Be that way. I'd like to see you learn a complex new
language
> that you have no inkling for from scratch without any samples from any
great
> masters. Then you'll know the meaning of the word "confusion". Where
do you
> think the greats (and the not-so-greats) learnt how to program C? From
a
> thick handbook that burns a hole in a pocket? Well... yes, but not
very
> well! They also learned a lot from "thieving" and "ripping off" other
> people's creations.
>
> But I appreciate his of people who have no programming talent
whatsoever
> stealing code he worked so long and hard for from his site. But
chances are,
> if you publish something over the 'net, it'll get stolen anyway.
No matter what you say, we will never allow other lamers, especially
those many many Malaysians who can't really code but call themselves
programmers, to steal our web code. These people are more like script
kiddies than programmers.
> Why the hell do they call themselves "Mamakteam" if not one of them
are
> Penangites or anywhere close to Mamak-hood? Can I form a team of
all-Malays
> and call 'em the "AhpekTeam"? No offense, folks.
You could if you want. No one is there to stop you. You could also
form a Thambi team if you like. :)
> I cannot say whether you leadership of organizing skills are any good.
I
> don't work for you. But I think your marketing and PR suck, sir.
Nothing
> personal, of course. Not that I'm qualified to say anything, being the
> foolish child I am.
>
>
You ARE foolish. I am chosen by the team to be the project leader
because I am best at organizing the team, and I am also the one
who insists on all new special fx to be added into the game.
It will be full of FX and we will not settle for any less.
Quality is of priority above everything else, even my main
artist, ASUKA agrees with me. We cannot sacrifice anything
for quality. ASUKA will never allow polygon count of his
3D sprites to be reduced to support inferior 3D cards.
I myself will never allow that either.
> And sent by Deja news. Cheesh... such courage.
The fact that we actually made the game shows how much courage and
innovation and skills we have, compared to other Malaysians.
Dana Chow
Dana Chow
> No we won't. IE5 is THE STANDARD browser and will remain so in the
> future. It is feature rich for web developers like me who works
> in Singapore. It works very well with VB developed programs.
>
> Anyone who don't use IE5 is seriously screwed up in the head.
> Let's face it, IE5 is the future and soon all websites will
> support IE5 only feature sets.
> Sure you can, but you can't get to see anything or even the
mama...@my-deja.com
>
> More ragging! More ragging! I haven't had this much fun since...
since...
> well, okay, I admit it. This is no fun. They make it *too* easy.
Then try coding a REAL game like us. Real-time 3D at that
too.. I'm sure you'll find it 'easy' as well. ;)
> So you're saying that you don't need PR because you *know* that your
game
> will blow out others from the water, with its excellent graphics and
ph4t
> 3ff3xt! (what does that mean?).
Our 3D game, Cricyst, will definitely blow out the rest of the other
crap games produced by local Malaysian game developers and we will
definitely blow out some international competitors as well. Namco's
Raystorm is not as good as our upcoming 3D shooter. :)
> Only the GeForce256 chipset? What abput the Voodoo families? Or those
stuck
> with old 3D cards? Or those who don't have 3D cards? I don't care what
> people say, but I'm guessing that most game developers cater for these
---Snip---
GeForce 256 will be the ideal card of choice for Cricyst. But
we do support other cards too, but you won't get to see all the
best FX. We highly recommend the GeForce chipset cards. They're
currently the best and fastest in the market.
> What other game developers? Oh, you mean those people who are churning
out
> those 2D arcade scrollers? Do you know how entertaining those games
are?
> They're like peanuts, man! Sure, they taste like charcoal, make you
sick and
> sure ain't healthy, but once you start, can you stop? Like hell.
2D arcade scrollers are a thing of the past. Only programmers who
live in the past and unable to keep up with technology of 3D are
forced to be stuck in the 2D world. We pity any game programmers
who is embarking on a 2D game project, we pity even more if
it's by local game developers. Then again, the less competition for
3D, the better.. (Not that there are many, or any at all competition
in 3D games from other Malaysians. ;))
> So you say. Prove it, boys. Lets see how great (or SHIT) your game is.
> Release a demo.
It will not be 'sh*t' as you call it. It will be the best product
you'll ever see coming from Malaysian teams, and that's us, the
MamakTeam. Please be patient as we are implementing the Transform
and Lighting features to fully utilize the capability of GeForce.
I must say those who don't have a GeForce are really missing out
on what Cricyst has to offer. :)
> There is a mention downstream about some guy who configured his box to
> filter out spam. Listen to him -- he may know more than you do.
>
And we know more than him about coding real 3D games. So we prefer
to use our grey matter mostly for the coding part.
> What do you think most gamers are using right now to play Homeworld?
Cheese
> and Crackers? What is it I hear you say? DirectX 7.0? Brilliant!
They may not use directx 7.0 now, but soon everyone will switch to it,
as always... and DirectX 8.0 is in the works now. We are simply so
excited over version 8.0, since we've almost fully mastered DX 7.0's
features already.
> Besides, what about OpenGL? Is OpenGL as dead as Netscape? From what I
hear
> from people (such obscure people like John Carmack -- some unimportant
guy
> who made some silly FPS. What was it called? Quake? Yeah, maybe. :) ),
> OpenGL is much friendlier than DirectX 7, programming-wise. I don't
know
> why... I'm just a newbie.
Opengl will die. It is a known fact that Opengl is 30-40 percent
slower than Direct3D for games. Carmack is just an anti-microsoftie
who refuses to give in, and is stuck in OPENGL forever because of
his pride.. he couldn't use D3d even if he wanted to because that
will make him lose face. Besides, he never could master the D3D
api anyway, and that's something we did that he couldn't and we're
proud of that.
> Besides, not all of us are rolling in dough. Most of us have
girlfriends and
> families to support. You know girl-friends? How about fa-mi-ly? You
know
> that? :)
You work ? I thought you're still a young immature newbie. :P
I do have a family to support too, that's why I work in Singapore
and get above average salaries and still have time left to
lead the Cricyst 3D game project. Girls ? Sure ! Can't live
without them sharing my bed with me. ;)
> No you don't. By the way, where's your game? Can we see it first? Let
us see
> it, let us praise it. If (or when) we do, your heads can be as big as
you
> want 'em to be. And I'll apologize. Publicly. But I have to like the
game.
> Don't worry, my opinion of the developers never bias my decision about
their
> games. Probably.
I have said already we're updating it to use the latest features
of DX 7.0 :)
And you better get ready to apologize to the Mamak Team. ;)
> That won't work. I can see the problems you'll face. First off, no-one
will
> blow RM30 for a game that they will have to download. I won't, for one
> thing. Neither will my friends (maybe). Let's face it... how will you
> guarantee delivery? You can't. This is the Internet we're talking
about. You
> know, the giant network that so far defies e-commerce? Yes? Good.
Malaysians will not make the bulk of the potential customers. Nuff said.
Regards,
Risc,
The MamakTeam project leader, coordinator, musician, level designer,
quality control, game design advisor and marketer.
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malaysian morons who works in singapore
and think they are so great ..
god bless your team
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cHiBiMaRuKo <Don't reply to to me idiots...read the signature carefully>
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> In article <7uoid0$2l6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, mama...@my-deja.com may have
> say...
> :In article <7unb5v$1hf$1...@news5.jaring.my>,
> :
> : I am not rude, just proud of our elite team's achievements.
>
> Ok if you aren't rude as what do you think, please answer this question;
>
> Did the software you use is all legal question ( e.g. 3D Studio Max ).
>
>
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Bali-Peng <jas...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> (Michael Ooi) might have cited this topic on Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:52:22
> +0800 but somehow...
> > Bro Bali Peng ... do u think these mamak team going to hit the market ?
nah
> > ....
> >
> > probably ... i imagine ... they are going to put their cheat codes as
> > "teh tarik" == to be immortal
> > "roti canai" == to get all credits by 10 000 units
> > "teh halia" == to clear map
> > "murtabak" == to end the mission
>
> Haha, good one bro... if in adventure game, ever password should be
> MAMAK...
Syed Mohammad Khairil
(most kiasu malaysian game developer awards).
Sure win 1.
Anyone wanna 2nd that ?
>
skidd
it's a bit of a "technical joke" there
kih kih kih
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Syed Mohammad Khairil <kha...@mimos.my> wrote in message
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chronicler
time, and in fact, their entire life into their project. Weather it sells
or not doesnt matter, 'cause chances of them penetrating into the
international market is damn slim, considering that they will only support
certain hardware.
Furthermore, chances of local people buying original copies of their game
is like.. duh.. Hmm.. give them maybe 2-3 years? That's when their eldest
programmer will start to suffer from burnout.. Then we'll get the last
laugh on them.. Poor starving souls who wasted their entire life away :)
mama...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <7unb5v$1hf$1...@news5.jaring.my>,
> "Celeron300A" <za0...@pd.jaring.my> wrote:
> > comments?
> > 1.NO PR so rude
>
> I am not rude, just proud of our elite team's achievements.
>
> > 2.why no demo?
>
> We are adding tranformation and lighting features to the game
> so that it will utilize the GeForce256 chipsets. Be patient. :)
>
> > 3.Sent to game review centre over the NET so then u know ur game
> create a
> > mass earthquake in Earth!
>
> Our game WILL create a mass earthquake in Malaysia and we will
> crush the other local 'game developers' who are not fit to
> be called 'game developers' because they put out nothing or just
> put out pure lame crap.
>
> > 4.No body can claim they are BEST until proven world-wide
>
> We are the best there is in Malaysia, or South East Asia even.
> Do you see know of any other REAL game developers in Malaysia
> or even Singapore ?
>
> > 5.Why use Deja-News server? No local IP server kah?
> It protects me from being spammed by unwanted emails.
>
> > 6.DX 7? forget bout it.
> Why ? You can't forget about DX 7 just as you can't forget about
> DX 6.1 You cannot ignore technology, you must embrace it. :)
> And we proudly declare ourselves, the Mamakteam, to be the first
> REAL game development group that also is the first to use the
> DirectX API and version 7.0 at that.
>
> > 8.Damn stupid developer! U think everybody had GEforce a like card?my
> self
> > still using the old matrox MGA G100 [but better that Savage3D]
>
> That is your loss. You are not a genuine game player anyway.
> The real game players will want GeForce256 because that is how
> all the cards will go in the future.
>
> > 9.So eksy!
>
> Not really, we think we deserve to feel that way because we sweat
> for 3 years to make the game. We put a lot of effort into the game
> and the game dev tools that we custome made for ourselves. We think
> we deserve the right to be , in your words 'eksy'.
>
> > 10. How much it would cost in the 2001?[assume u roll out next year]
>
> The game will cost less than RM 30 ringgit and it will be a download
> from the Internet after you pay for them. We have no plans as of yet
> to stamp CDs or make boxes, but we will not rule that option out.
>
> >
> > Think B4 u write
> >
> Of course I do...
>
> Regards,
>
> Risc, The Project Leader of MamakTeam.
>
kuru
I'm sorry, these people have just pissed me off seriously with their
flippant and inconsiderate remarks and... I've... got... to... reply... for
the sake of... mental well-being and... and the maintanence (is that
correct?)... of my sunny... (if slightly... concussed)... disposition.
So I'll do it by dissecting their article and making fun of the bits. Let's
get to it, shall we?
mama...@my-deja.com wrote in message...
> "Celeron300A" wrote:
>> Another One : GET lost with ur IE5.00.....
>
> No we won't. IE5 is THE STANDARD browser and will remain so in the
> future. It is feature rich for web developers like me who works
> in Singapore. It works very well with VB developed programs.
Assumptions, assumptions. Let's get this straight. No matter what Micro$loth
says, IE5 cannot and must not be the industry standard browser. It cannot be
made the standard because of the things Microsoft would do to the HTML
standard. Would you like to *have* to upgrade your browser every few months
with patches, just so you can view the bestest 'pages? Do you want your
beloved HTML to become a "close-standard" markup language, full of
propetiery (ooh, big word, probably misspelt...) features that would make
designing homepages a big pain in the derriere? Course not... that's why
HTML is still open-standard... I think. Of course, the same should apply to
Netscape, of course.
And no, I'm no Netscape fanatic. I'm still using the browser I got with my
PC -- IE4, mainly because I couldn't be arsed to download either IE5 or
Communicator. By my experience, both browsers are as slow, behemoth-like,
and both are as unstable as the other. And I've used both of them, thank you
evry much. Extensively.
> Anyone who don't use IE5 is seriously screwed up in the head.
> Let's face it, IE5 is the future and soon all websites will
> support IE5 only feature sets.
HAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!! *cough* *cough* *cough*. *ahem*. How foolish. Even a
little child like me can see that flaws on that statement.
No, really. That sweeping, generalized statement is sooooo hilarious. We
have not seen what Netscape can do yet, and we don't even know if there will
be any new contender that will jump in and blast both behemoths (and they
*are* behemoths... download sizes are hell...) out of the ring. Remember
this folks -- Linux was an unknown OS for years, and now everyone is talking
about it (if not using it).
Besides, what sort of idiot would judge the sanity of another by the browser
they use? Begging your presence, boys.
>> i'm using Netscape Gold 3.01 but still can acess the server.
>> Trick? disable the java script ler...HAHAHA
>>
> Sure you can, but you can't get to see anything or even the
> news page. Bare in mind that only IE5 can decode the jscript.encode
> encrypted javascripts. One more reason we use IE5 like i said, is
> the encryption of javascripts so that lamers and thiefs can't
> steal our javascript codes. IE5 users should notice the kool
> transitions and wipe effects on the webpage. :)
Oh... and this feature is only available to IE5 users. Why can't you guys
use Macromedia Flash, like homeworld.net, or newgrounds.com, or
joecartoon.com, or so many other sites?
I'm sorry, friend... if you're gonna close your site to a large portion (or
a small portion, if any of their bluster is to be believed) of the market,
perhaps your product (that 3D whasit you've spent 3 years of your life
making) Deserves To Lose. Ever heard of the Foonly, The Hacker Dream Gone
Wrong? It's somewhere in the Jargon File...
> Now we certainly do not want people who can't code, to enhance
> THEIR own website by stealing our code, do we ? :)
Why not? Would you appreciate it if people who want to learn how to code
Java to rip off portions of your code to study it cannot do so? No? Oh, all
right then. Be that way. I'd like to see you learn a complex new language
that you have no inkling for from scratch without any samples from any great
masters. Then you'll know the meaning of the word "confusion". Where do you
think the greats (and the not-so-greats) learnt how to program C? From a
thick handbook that burns a hole in a pocket? Well... yes, but not very
well! They also learned a lot from "thieving" and "ripping off" other
people's creations.
But I appreciate his of people who have no programming talent whatsoever
stealing code he worked so long and hard for from his site. But chances are,
if you publish something over the 'net, it'll get stolen anyway.
The -- Internet -- Is -- Full -- Of -- Security -- Holes.
Basic fact of life.
>Regards,
>Risc,
>the Mamakteam project leader, organizer, marketer.
Why the hell do they call themselves "Mamakteam" if not one of them are
Penangites or anywhere close to Mamak-hood? Can I form a team of all-Malays
and call 'em the "AhpekTeam"? No offense, folks.
I cannot say whether you leadership of organizing skills are any good. I
don't work for you. But I think your marketing and PR suck, sir. Nothing
personal, of course. Not that I'm qualified to say anything, being the
foolish child I am.
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
And sent by Deja news. Cheesh... such courage.
kuru.
ignoramus
>In article <7unb5v$1hf$1...@news5.jaring.my>,
> "Celeron300A" <za0...@pd.jaring.my> wrote:
>> comments?
>> 1.NO PR so rude
>
> I am not rude, just proud of our elite team's achievements.
>
Is rubbing people the wrong way one of your elite team's achievements
or maybe it is just you?
One slightly miffed Netscape user.
keriscyber
"含arGazer" wrote:
> Agree .........!!
http2//fearless.com
kuru
well, okay, I admit it. This is no fun. They make it *too* easy.
mama...@my-deja.com wrote...
> "Celeron300A" <za0...@pd.jaring.my> wrote:
>> 1.NO PR so rude
>
> I am not rude, just proud of our elite team's achievements.
So you're saying that you don't need PR because you *know* that your game
will blow out others from the water, with its excellent graphics and ph4t
3ff3xt! (what does that mean?).
>> 2.why no demo?
>
> We are adding tranformation and lighting features to the game
> so that it will utilize the GeForce256 chipsets. Be patient. :)
Only the GeForce256 chipset? What abput the Voodoo families? Or those stuck
with old 3D cards? Or those who don't have 3D cards? I don't care what
people say, but I'm guessing that most game developers cater for these
low-end cards because they know that their rice bowl will come not from
people who have the Bullshitronic Super Bastard Ninja Card 9000 and
Super-Potato-chips for microprocessing, but from the average Joe. And your
assertion that your game will require a 3D card for those graphics is
pointless. Companies like Valve (of the Half-Life fame) and Relic (of the
new Homeworld) know the value of software mode. You can play those games is
software and enjoy it (albeit jerkily). You may whine "but our graphics is
too good for your card!". Bullshit. You're lazy and you know it. I've seen
Homeworld. I played it for 15 minutes thinking it was on H/W accelration
before I realized that it wasn't. If Relic can do it, certainly you can!
>> 3.Sent (sic) [the game] to [a] game review centre over the NET so then u
know ur game [can] create a mass earthquake in Earth!
>
> Our game WILL create a mass earthquake in Malaysia and we will
> crush the other local 'game developers' who are not fit to
> be called 'game developers' because they put out nothing or just
> put out pure lame crap.
What other game developers? Oh, you mean those people who are churning out
those 2D arcade scrollers? Do you know how entertaining those games are?
They're like peanuts, man! Sure, they taste like charcoal, make you sick and
sure ain't healthy, but once you start, can you stop? Like hell.
Besides, does your game have anything to do with plate tectonics? So what is
this talk about earthquakes?
>> 4.No body can claim they are BEST until proven world-wide
>
> We are the best there is in Malaysia, or South East Asia even.
> Do you see know of any other REAL game developers in Malaysia
> or even Singapore ?
So you say. Prove it, boys. Lets see how great (or SHIT) your game is.
Release a demo.
>> 5.Why use Deja-News server? No local IP server kah?
> It protects me from being spammed by unwanted emails.
There is a mention downstream about some guy who configured his box to
filter out spam. Listen to him -- he may know more than you do.
>> 6.DX 7? forget bout it.
> Why ? You can't forget about DX 7 just as you can't forget about
> DX 6.1 You cannot ignore technology, you must embrace it. :)
> And we proudly declare ourselves, the Mamakteam, to be the first
> REAL game development group that also is the first to use the
> DirectX API and version 7.0 at that.
What do you think most gamers are using right now to play Homeworld? Cheese
and Crackers? What is it I hear you say? DirectX 7.0? Brilliant!
Besides, what about OpenGL? Is OpenGL as dead as Netscape? From what I hear
from people (such obscure people like John Carmack -- some unimportant guy
who made some silly FPS. What was it called? Quake? Yeah, maybe. :) ),
OpenGL is much friendlier than DirectX 7, programming-wise. I don't know
why... I'm just a newbie.
>> 8.Damn stupid developer! U think everybody had GEforce a like card?my
>self
>> still using the old matrox MGA G100 [but better that Savage3D]
>
> That is your loss. You are not a genuine game player anyway.
> The real game players will want GeForce256 because that is how
> all the cards will go in the future.
Bullshit. Only the deepest idiot believes that a true gamer is a fool who
buys the latest hardware for his games every week. A True Gamer (turn up the
patriotic music, boys!) is a person who loves his games, and can see the
beauty in an otherwise graphically bland game (like Half-Life) and see the
true ugliness in games that have more surface than substance (I'm not giving
names. I don't want to start another holy war).
The essence of all games is gameplay, not graphics. It holds true on every
game. Which is why Worms 1 & 2 is in 2D and rock, and [insert lame
3D-shooter here] is 3D and sucks. Great graphics do not a great game make.
I have known people who can pierce the thick layer of gloss in a game and
mock its putrid insides... and I have seen them praise games that are plain
in the outside but more addictive than crack cocaine in the inside.
Besides, not all of us are rolling in dough. Most of us have girlfriends and
families to support. You know girl-friends? How about fa-mi-ly? You know
that? :)
>> 9.So eksy!
>
> Not really, we think we deserve to feel that way because we sweat
> for 3 years to make the game. We put a lot of effort into the game
> and the game dev tools that we custome made for ourselves. We think
> we deserve the right to be , in your words 'eksy'.
No you don't. By the way, where's your game? Can we see it first? Let us see
it, let us praise it. If (or when) we do, your heads can be as big as you
want 'em to be. And I'll apologize. Publicly. But I have to like the game.
Don't worry, my opinion of the developers never bias my decision about their
games. Probably.
>> 10. How much it would cost in the 2001?[assume u roll out next year]
>
> The game will cost less than RM 30 ringgit and it will be a download
> from the Internet after you pay for them. We have no plans as of yet
> to stamp CDs or make boxes, but we will not rule that option out.
>
That won't work. I can see the problems you'll face. First off, no-one will
blow RM30 for a game that they will have to download. I won't, for one
thing. Neither will my friends (maybe). Let's face it... how will you
guarantee delivery? You can't. This is the Internet we're talking about. You
know, the giant network that so far defies e-commerce? Yes? Good.
>> Think B4 u write
>>
> Of course I do...
>
I must emphatically disagree with this point. It makes no sense.
:)
>
>Regards,
>
>Risc, The Project Leader of MamakTeam.
>
Now he's only the project leader. Who's doing marketing?
Get a real address like the rest of us.
kuru.
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And I bet they won't even last 3 minutes playing the so-called lame
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>
> u guys read the malay mail today? (front page)
> it's a bit of a "technical joke" there
The one about the Mamak gang?
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Rkaru <rk...@zdnetmail.com> wrote in message
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Bali-Peng
+0800 but somehow...
> this is the most KIASU team i've ever met.
> malaysian morons who works in singapore
> and think they are so great ..
Ppl living near Singapore has special effects on them, especially
kiasuism...
chronicler
mama...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> Malaysians will not make the bulk of the potential customers. Nuff said.
Like you're gonna make it into the international market.. yah right.. ps..
who was that
again in your team who was posting something about not needing you as the
project
leader again?
ciao!
kuru
Here is my countermove. Dissection begins... NOW!
mama...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7ups6n$urq$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>kuru wrote:
>>
>> hello.
>>
>> I'm sorry, these people have just pissed me off seriously with their
>> flippant and inconsiderate remarks and... I've... got... to...
>reply... for
>> the sake of... mental well-being and... and the maintanence (is that
>> correct?)... of my sunny... (if slightly... concussed)... disposition.
>
>Let's just put it this way, you're just jealous of our team's
>achievements.
So what? I'm jealous. Oooh. I'm jealous of people who have yet to make any
mark in the Global Gaming Industries. My goodness. No, not really. You want
to know who I'm jealous of? I'll tell you. Demi Hassabis, 21 years old. Who
is he? Co-creator of Theme Park. You know, the classic Bullfrog game. Take
note: He was 14 at that time, and at that time, there was no DirectX. Or
OpenGL. It was DOS. Do you know how painful programming at that time was? He
is now 21 years old, and has founded Elixir Studios. He's signed up with a
big company. For a child younger than you, he's done a lot. I envy him. I
dream at nights of killing him slowly. But I am swayed away from such
thoughts because if he were to die, a legend would die.
>> So I'll do it by dissecting their article and making fun of the bits.
>Let's
>> get to it, shall we?
>
>OOoo... Sounds like some jealous grape can't sit still and put up with
>our abilities and masterpiece.
Oooo... and thus he continues with the same argument. There*fore*, our next
example! Paul Molyneux, former head of Bullfrog -- now head of Lionhead plc.
Creator of Syndicate, Dungeon Keeper, Theme Park, Syndicate Wars! All before
DirectX or during its infancy. Now he is doing a game called Black & White,
a... something or another. Is famous for doing games that defy description
and categorization, and well-known for his design philosophy of creating and
enviroment that does not wait for the player! He is approximately twice your
age, and has done approximately six times the amount of work you've done. I
hate him, admire him and envy him. If he were to die, the gaming world would
mourn.
But DirectX is sloppier than OpenGL. I assume you know that. Besides, the
DirectX-OpenGL and Internet Exploiter-Netscrape Confounder holy war is just
that -- a holy war. Pointless, irrational and not worth pursuing. Both have
advantages and disadvantages of their own. I wonder why id isn't using
DirectX for their Quake III Arena... makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Anyway, you fail to serve the public by not allowing those blessed with IE5
in to your site. I think that would be to your bests interests if you were
to at least hire someone to open the gates of your sites to others.
>> HAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!! *cough* *cough* *cough*. *ahem*. How foolish.
I regret this outburst of emotion. My apologies.
>Even a
>> little child like me can see that flaws on that statement.
>
>So grow up and accept it as the truth and fact. :)
Smileys won't work. Don't get scared, get mad. Don't get mad, get even.
Don't get even, treat it as a game. And I play not to lose.
>
>> Besides, what sort of idiot would judge the sanity of another by the
>browser
>> they use? Begging your presence, boys.
>
>People who denounce Microsoft, are people who are jealous of
>multi-millionair corporations and Bill Gates' successes.
>We will aim to be the Microsoft of Malaysia, but in Games development.
No-one is jealous of Microsoft. (a lie) But we are sick of seeing our PCs
crash over and over again. Do you know the bliss that lies in
Macintosh-land? Rare crashes... if only our games were made for the Mac, I
could finish my games sooner and not f*** (oh dear, profanity) around with
DirectX. Besides, this isn't about Bill Gates. It's about you.
>> Oh... and this feature is only available to IE5 users. Why can't you
>guys
>> use Macromedia Flash, like homeworld.net, or newgrounds.com, or
>> joecartoon.com, or so many other sites?
>
>Macromedia are tools for woosies. I can't believe they can allow
>crap companies like Articulate Multimedia to win PIKOM when they
>are using crappy non-programmer tools like Macromedia. They're so
>lame. They do not deserved to be called programmers.
Who asked them to be? Must you be a programmer to be a great website
designer? There is more than just programming, you know. Like aesthetics.
Fun-factor. Informative stuff. Good writing. If the web were for
programmers, then HTML would have become C.
Besides, your obligation is to please the customer, or at least fool him
into thinking that he is pleased. Not acting macho.
>> I'm sorry, friend... if you're gonna close your site to a large
>portion (or
>> a small portion, if any of their bluster is to be believed) of the
>market,
>> perhaps your product (that 3D whasit you've spent 3 years of your life
>> making) Deserves To Lose. Ever heard of the Foonly, The Hacker Dream
>Gone
>> Wrong? It's somewhere in the Jargon File...
>
>Oh i'm sorry for you too friend, you will miss out a lot of upcoming
>goodies that will soon be up on our website. IE5 market share is much
>more than whatchamightcallit Netscrap.
We're talking about the quality and the accesability of your site. Not
Microsoft's market share. I don't work for Microsloth or Netscrape. Why in
the Nine Circles of Hell should I care about either company, or their foul
market share?
A good effort. That's nice. Do you know, you're beginning to resemble the
EULA I got for the Quake III Arena Test? Oh, how I hated that EULA...
So what if they're script kiddies? They have to start somewhere, and I
gathered, so did you. Unless that accelerated learning thing (complete with
sensory-deprivation tank) I read about is out already. How much did it cost?
>> Why the hell do they call themselves "Mamakteam" if not one of them
>are
>> Penangites or anywhere close to Mamak-hood? Can I form a team of
>all-Malays
>> and call 'em the "AhpekTeam"? No offense, folks.
>
>You could if you want. No one is there to stop you. You could also
>form a Thambi team if you like. :)
Hmmm... that's an interesting idea. Except for the fact that it's racist,
crude and idiotic. Am I surprised? No.
Another outburst of emotion. Sorry!
>> I cannot say whether you leadership of organizing skills are any good.
>I
>> don't work for you. But I think your marketing and PR suck, sir.
>Nothing
>> personal, of course. Not that I'm qualified to say anything, being the
>> foolish child I am.
>You ARE foolish. I am chosen by the team to be the project leader
>because I am best at organizing the team, and I am also the one
>who insists on all new special fx to be added into the game.
>It will be full of FX and we will not settle for any less.
>Quality is of priority above everything else, even my main
>artist, ASUKA agrees with me. We cannot sacrifice anything
>for quality. ASUKA will never allow polygon count of his
>3D sprites to be reduced to support inferior 3D cards.
>I myself will never allow that either.
You better sacrifice something. Even level editors know better than to
overflow poly counts! And you want script kiddies... quake and half-life
level editors usually are.
Sloppy procedure... code and data optimization must be done. You should know
that. The other games-dev companies are doing it (the ones in America and
Europe, silly).
Why not you? And don't tell me you're not aping the west and you're sticking
with Eastern values. Paved roads are a western idea. So are cars. And the
MRT. And the Causeway. What's wrong with another Western idea?
Up your system specs in hope that others will upgrade just for your game? It
has happened so many times, with so many games. Terracide, for one.
Wanna try it? Go ahead. You'll be ignored by so many of us. And your effort
will die before it is born. It's as simple as that.
Do you want to know the moral of the Foonly, The Hacker Dream Gone Wrong?
Here it is:
You wanna play in the Real World, you better learn the Real World Rules.
>> And sent by Deja news. Cheesh... such courage.
>
>The fact that we actually made the game shows how much courage and
>innovation and skills we have, compared to other Malaysians.
No, I was implying the fact that you were unable to give us a decent email
address, and the fact that you've also not had the courage to listen to the
more decent of us. Play by your rules, kid. Play by them and die.
Oooh, that was a good one. Did I sound like an evil villain?
And besides, do you think you're the only creative Malaysian around? C'mon.
You're mature folk. Know better!
Anyway... I certainly hope this is a hoax. If it's real... oh god.
kuru
PS: And these people are certainly no fun... not like that Manu fellow. Now
he was a tough potato. These guys are too easy. With Manu, we had a
deep-seated fear and loathing over race. With these guys? Overblown machismo
and bluster. Now if they resort to violent tactics, I know I have won.
moo hoo haa haa haa!!! :)
I love this place.
kuru
here goes!
mama...@my-deja.com wrote...
>Then try coding a REAL game like us. Real-time 3D at that
>too.. I'm sure you'll find it 'easy' as well. ;)
I don't need any programming skills to know that 3D engines are a pain to
code. Kudos for that, at least. But I'd like to know whether this will be a
real game... and signs aren't promising...
>Our 3D game, Cricyst, will definitely blow out the rest of the other
>crap games produced by local Malaysian game developers and we will
>definitely blow out some international competitors as well. Namco's
>Raystorm is not as good as our upcoming 3D shooter. :)
Jolly good. Let's hope the gameplay's as good as the graphics. And that the
weaponry is balanced. You guys doing multiplayer?
>GeForce 256 will be the ideal card of choice for Cricyst. But
>we do support other cards too, but you won't get to see all the
>best FX. We highly recommend the GeForce chipset cards. They're
>currently the best and fastest in the market.
So you say. I've never heard of them. But then again, they're not my
speciality.
>2D arcade scrollers are a thing of the past. Only programmers who
>live in the past and unable to keep up with technology of 3D are
>forced to be stuck in the 2D world. We pity any game programmers
>who is embarking on a 2D game project, we pity even more if
>it's by local game developers. Then again, the less competition for
>3D, the better.. (Not that there are many, or any at all competition
>in 3D games from other Malaysians. ;))
So 2D is dead. Bravo. I wouldn't have known. You are right, of course... 2D
is dying, and going the way of the text adventure. For me, it is a great
pity. What I fear, of course is the fact that with the death of 2D, gameplay
will die too, just like I feared the death of plot when text-adventure games
died. So far, I am not disappointed. Half-Life has shown me that
gameplay can still live in an FPS. And System Shock 2 has astounded me with
it's plot. So don't disappoint me, boys. Don't disappoint us. You'll be
laughed out of here, should you fail.
>It will not be 'sh*t' as you call it. It will be the best product
>you'll ever see coming from Malaysian teams, and that's us, the
>MamakTeam. Please be patient as we are implementing the Transform
>and Lighting features to fully utilize the capability of GeForce.
>I must say those who don't have a GeForce are really missing out
>on what Cricyst has to offer. :)
Then I have only four words to say. Show. Us. The. Demo.
>And we know more than him about coding real 3D games. So we prefer
>to use our grey matter mostly for the coding part.
So we'll not see your true self, is that so? You're evading the issue.
>They may not use directx 7.0 now, but soon everyone will switch to it,
>as always... and DirectX 8.0 is in the works now. We are simply so
>excited over version 8.0, since we've almost fully mastered DX 7.0's
>features already.
Very good. Does that mean we'll have to wait some more for your masterpiece?
Or what?
>Opengl will die. It is a known fact that Opengl is 30-40 percent
>slower than Direct3D for games. Carmack is just an anti-microsoftie
>who refuses to give in, and is stuck in OPENGL forever because of
>his pride.. he couldn't use D3d even if he wanted to because that
>will make him lose face. Besides, he never could master the D3D
>api anyway, and that's something we did that he couldn't and we're
>proud of that.
I love people who make sweeping statements like that. Listen to my first
countermove, and my first move. Never, ever assume. Things can change.
Besides, Carmack must know something that you don't... or does he?
>You work ? I thought you're still a young immature newbie. :P
>I do have a family to support too, that's why I work in Singapore
>and get above average salaries and still have time left to
>lead the Cricyst 3D game project. Girls ? Sure ! Can't live
>without them sharing my bed with me. ;)
Whatever. You actually have time to have sex, work, commute and live with
family? Cooo... that explains your three year work schedule. And the fact
that you're not dead yet from over-work astounds me. Does the Singapore govt
give you guys steroids?
>I have said already we're updating it to use the latest features
>of DX 7.0 :)
>
>And you better get ready to apologize to the Mamak Team. ;)
Ha ha ha. We'll wait and see. Or not see. Who shall know?
Fact is, if you don't update your page to accept IE4 and Netscape, I may
never be able to download the demo. And I'll never be convinced that I was
wrong. And I'll never apologize. Conundrum, conundrum...
>Malaysians will not make the bulk of the potential customers. Nuff said.
Neither will the Americans. Or the Brits. How big will the game be? 600Megs?
More? Download? Insane... for RM30? Why in RM if not a lot of Malaysians
will buy it? Why not in Pounds Sterling? Or dollars? Hmmm?
>Regards,
>Risc,
>The MamakTeam project leader, coordinator, musician, level designer,
>quality control, game design advisor and marketer.
Ayoyo... one minute he's Long John Silver, next minute his Bodhisatva... Or
Shiva... or Kali... Anything with many arms will do.
cheers,
kuru.
I love this place.
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> cHiBiMaRuKo <Don't reply to to me idiots...read the signature
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> > Ok if you aren't rude as what do you think, please answer this
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> > Did the software you use is all legal question ( e.g. 3D Studio Max ).
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