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So I know that in your book you advocate for working less. And I think that idea really goes hand in hand with the concept of universal basic income, or UBI. And I wanted to ask you, what are your thoughts on that?
So I was just kind of curious about what those like, how that choice was made, how that choice relates to like American culture and consumerism specifically. And also just kind of what those industries or jobs are that were newly created that are causing this culture shift.
Everything that we need is ultimately nature. So you know, we have to have an economy where we our ultimate goal is fixing these ecological questions, these social questions, climate change, and a lot of other things on top of that, biodiversity, income and wealth inequality.
And his perspective, like at least the writing that I read was very, very scary to read. And I think I was like a 19 year old person just starting college like really looking forward to your future and creating your own life. I was like, I was just shocked. I definitely had like, I want to say a few months like genuinely where I was just in a spiral of being really scared.
And I was not fun to talk to at that time. I was not fun to be around because I was always really scared and anxious. But I guess like as time passed, I kind of got out of that spiral by thinking about like the need to keep going for like the people that I love because I noticed like how much my fear was impacting people around me and I know that, you know, I really care about my parents, my brother, my boyfriend, my friends. Yeah, and that to me is also a reason to keep going and not to fall into like a doom spiral of fear. And to just do my part where I can and where my skills fit in to helping the environment.
Yeah, it does, you know, and I was asked earlier, like, what would you have the school curriculum be? And I am actually a little bit surprised because I thought I thought about things like oh, you know, empathy skills, and nonviolent communication is so important for community building to change the system, and then systems thinking about how to do that.
I wanted to ask you about what you mentioned, that the system will not exist as it is now later, and also about creating a new system that would center around meeting human needs. And my question is, if you personally could do one small thing that would bring us closer to that system, and one very major thing that would also bring us closer to that system, what do you think those two things would be?
Just one super quick final thing which was the original idea of this podcast, to think about climate related high school curriculum. So I was just wondering if you could say one or two things about what you would add to a school curriculum. Like you said, you learned about it starting in elementary school, I believe.
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