Re: [Public] [Fwd: [opennic-discuss] Call to boycott SixXS (IPv6 tunnelbroker)]

[Joe Baptista]

Julian - you should prepare a press release on this.  This is significant.

cheers
joe baptista

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Julian De Marchi <jul...@jdcomputers.com.au> wrote:

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Regardless of our differences, we all need to stand up to this kind of
behavior.

Please stand up for alt-roots in general and boycott SIXXS now!

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BOYCOTT REQUEST OF SIXXS BY ALL OPENNIC MEMBERS AND OTHER
ALTERNATE ROOT ADVOCATES

As an OpenNIC member, I am requesting that we take a stand against
self-appointed "internet guardians" who believe that OpenNIC and other
alternate roots are poison to the continued well-being of the Domain
Name System.  Specifically, I am asking each of you to (1) immediately
move any IPv6 subnets you may have with SixXS[1] to Hurricane
Electric[2] or another 6-to-4 tunnel broker; and (2) send an email to
Jeroen Massar[3], maintainer of SixXS[4], expressing your outrage over his
self-appointed role as an "internet guardian." If you do not
currently have a 6-to-4 tunnel with SixXS, I urge each of you to
e-mail Jeroen anyway and express your displeasure with his actions and
attitude towards alternate roots.

By way of background: On or about May 24, my 6-to-4 tunnel was
"administratively set down" by SixXS, and my access to the SixXS
forums and tracker engine was revoked. Despite numerous requests for
clarification, Jeroen and SixXS have refused to acknowledge the
reasons why my 6-to-4 tunnel was disabled. However, log entries in my
account indicate the following actions were taken against me shortly
after I posted a forum message in the SixXS "General" forum announcing
Aaron Angel's new OpenNIC Tier 2 server availability on IPv6:

2009-05-24 18:34:29
   T19893 violates RFC2826

2009-05-24 18:34:04
   Tunnel to 66.244.95.11 was admin disabled

2009-05-24 18:31:08
   SixXS fully supports RFC2826, thus please don't abuse our forums
as a mechanism outing in contrast to that

2009-05-24 18:28:56
   Set AllowForum to N

2009-05-24 18:07:37
   Posted a message to the forum

2009-05-24 18:02:18
   Posted a message to the forum

Apparently, my access was removed, and my subnet was disabled, within
30 minutes of posting.  This was posted in a forum that has numerous
other posts announcing various DNS services available via IPv6.  No
explanation was ever given me as to why my subnet was disabled (and
despite the fact that my subnet was *not* hosting the Tier 2 in
question), and I received no warning that my access would be
terminated.

The reference to RFC2826 ("IAB Technical Comment on the Unique DNS
Root" [informational])[5] is one that is often made by critics of the
alternate root system, but one that is ultimately non-applicable to
OpenNIC:  RFC2826 specifically discusses the dangers of "colliding
TLDs," and the OpenNIC charter and policies specifically exclude
establishing new TLDs that collide with existing ICANN TLDs[6].

It is apparent to me that Jeroen has taken it upon himself to enforce
his brand of compliance on his small segment of the Internet.  Compare
this to Hurricane Electric, another 6-to-4 tunnel provider that
specifically encourages us to provide our services to the Internet
community:

   Nothing we have in place currently would prevent you from doing such a
   thing.  Do be aware that it is a free service, and it's provided on a
   best-effort basis, especially as tunnels can be prone to odd hiccups.
   If that's all fine with you, then go ahead.[7]

We should not have to stand for this level of contempt, and I again
urge each of you to let Jeroen know that you will not permit
him to serve as your Internet gatekeeper.

 --Brian

[1] https://www.sixxs.net
[2] http://www.tunnelbroker.net
[3] jer...@sixxs.net (He seems to prefer digitally-signed emails)
[4] in...@sixxs.net
[5] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2826.txt
[6] http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNICCharterAnnotated
[7] Personal communications, 29 May 2009
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[Marc Manthey]

hello list

thats not new

http://en.linuxreviews.org/SixXS

http://www.habets.pp.se/sixxs.net-sucks.php

cheers

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[Peter Dambier]

That explains why I cannot get an account with them in the first place.

Cheers
Peter and Karin

Marc Manthey wrote:
>
>
> hello list
>
>
> thats not new
>
> http://en.linuxreviews.org/SixXS
>
> http://www.habets.pp.se/sixxs.net-sucks.php
>
> cheers
>
> http://twitter.com/macbroadcast/
>
> Am 04.06.2009 um 14:46 schrieb Joe Baptista:
>
>> Julian - you should prepare a press release on this. This is significant.
>>
>> cheers
>> joe baptista
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Julian De Marchi
>> <jul...@jdcomputers.com.au <mailto:jul...@jdcomputers.com.au>> wrote:
>>
> Regardless of our differences, we all need to stand up to this kind of
> behavior.
>
> Please stand up for alt-roots in general and boycott SIXXS now!
>

> [3] jer...@sixxs.net <mailto:jer...@sixxs.net> (He seems to prefer
> digitally-signed emails)
> [4] in...@sixxs.net <mailto:in...@sixxs.net>

> [5] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2826.txt
> [6] http://wiki.opennic.glue/OpenNICCharterAnnotated
> [7] Personal communications, 29 May 2009
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> Marc Manthey
> Vogelsangerstrasse 97
> D - 50823 Köln - Germany
> Vogelsangerstrasse 97
> Geo: 50.945554, 6.920293
> PGP/GnuPG: 0x1ac02f3296b12b4d
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> Mobil:0049-1577-3329231
> web : http://www.let.de

> Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them,
> and certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise).

> Please note that according to the German law on data
> retention, information on every electronic information exchange with me
> is retained for a period of six months.


>

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[Marc Manthey]

hey peter

yes but there are other ways

> Von: ip...@he.net
> Datum: 2. Juni 2009 11:07:58 MESZ
> An: ma...@let.de
> Betreff: Hurricane Electric IPv6 tunnelbroker.net update
>
> We are pleased to let all tunnelbroker.net users know that we are
> participating in the Google over IPv6 project and we've set up a
> network
> of whitelisted anycasted recursive caching nameservers. This means
> using these nameservers will allow you to visit Google's various
> services over IPv6, like www.google.com, mail.google.com,
> news.google.com and more (not just ipv6.google.com!). Google has more
> information on this whitelisting project at http://www.google.com/ipv6
>
> You should use 2001:470:20::2 as your IPv6 enabled recursor, and if
> you
> still want one available over IPv4, please use 74.82.42.42.
>
> Thank you and we hope you enjoy the additional service. Any questions,
> bugs or comments, please send email to ip...@he.net
>
> ---
> Hurricane Electric IPv6 Tunnel Broker Project
> http://tunnelbroker.net
>
> Hurricane Electric IPv6 Certification Program
> http://ipv6.he.net/certification
>
> Tell a friend about Hurricane Electric!

some more news ? :-)

Just hot off the press.

dataaaaaaa" opencu on fedora9 " :-)

http://apps.sourceforge.net/wordpress/opencu/2009/06/04/new-package-released-opencu_0_09/

## Courts rule that the internet is indeed a utility.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/06/monticello-appeals-court-win.ars

## Google to slip SVG into Internet Explorer
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/03/google_svg_internet_explorer/

nice eekend

the marc

>
>
> Cheers
> Peter and Karin