Just a word to say that although Win11 previews may install on unsupported devices TODAY is not guarantee it will install at RTM.
I would DEFINATELY NOT, NOT, NOT load it on my moms old computer - it simply is not stable enough yet for your mom.
As someone who worked at MSFT at that time, I have no memory or that. I also supported XP a lot and also have no memory. What I DO have is a memory of a while host of Win9x drivers not being available in XP. And that was, with respect a life time ago and has no bearing on life today.
My pc is a end of 2017 one, technically meeting all requirements but the i7 Kaby Lake bit, but I gather it may depend on Asus who are updating some older boards to meet compliance, I have all other relevant hardware.
Recently we have begun using the Microsoft 365 Apps admin center to update our company's O365 Apps accounts. Some of the users added in the inventory have "Unsupported Builds". Further investigations into this topic have come up empty and I was wondering what these unsupported builds mean for the user as well as steps to take to get them running a build that is supported.
If the devices in question are on Current Channel or Monthly Enterprise Channel, we would recommend to enable Cloud Update and let those/all devices updated automatically. So a step-by-step guide here: Enabling and configuring cloud update - Deploy Office Microsoft Learn, the full documentation of Cloud updates is located here: Overview of cloud update in the Microsoft 365 Apps admin center - Deploy Office Microsoft Learn.
If the unsupported version are from other channels, the required actions depend on your management solution (e.g. SCCM or Intune). In general it is not necessary to reinstall those devices, but rather make sure that those have a proper Microsoft 365 Apps update management applied, so devices will stay current in the long term.
Am I correct that I cant use the Victron Connect Windows app with my Victron Bluetooth enabled devices? Why is that? My laptop can pair with my BMS and charge controllers but they dont show up in the Windows app.
I actually thought I could run VictronConnect on my Microsoft Surface Pro 8 today. However, after actually downloading the app to my SP8, and launching it, I wasn't able to find any of my Victron Smart Devices. I quick search today, revealed to me this is an ongoing issue unable to be accomplished as of the date of this post?
If Microsoft and Windows are restricting you from developing software to run your VictronConnect app, due to Bluetooth issues, then just create your own Bluetooth dongle connectable through a standard USB port, and and allow us to bypass this logjam now, while you and Microsoft figure it out going on three years now?
Yep, just create your own Bluetooth USB transmitter/receiver, or, let us know which one will work because there are so many third party Bluetooth USB devices out there (I think I have one in a box somewhere I never use, but will try now that we are talking about I), I'm sure you can figure it out while you develop the silver bullet platform for us to stay in touch with our BT Victron smart devices.
Incidentally, and on a side note. I just sent an email to your sa...@victronenergy.com contact requesting if and when you will have, or be permitted to install a VictronConnect Smart TV app to an LG Smart TV or other Smart TV.
We knew when selecting the QT framework that the absence of bluetooth LE support on windows was a known limitation. At the time it was acceptable given the other advantages of QT for cross platform development.
There is no cross platform development kit that supports all features on all platforms, it's one of those inherent limitations. The huge advantage of having a single app maintained by a single team that is able to support iPhone, iPads, Macs, Androids and Windows vastly outweighed that specific limitation (annoying though it is for those customers affected).
From all public documentation at the time it appeared that the specific windows bluetooth LE limitation would be addressed at the framework level by QT. That was the basis on which any historical encouraging statements by Victron were made.
I don't know the details why, nor is Victron in a software development position to work around it with a custom windows implementation. That last part is a choice we've had to make, as we do with so many features and feature requests. While it would be really nice to have it, in almost all cases it is also possible for installers to use one of the alternatives (usually iPhone or Android), so it cannot be prioritised above other issues where there is no workaround.
The frustration is high when you can pair perfectly from within Windows 10 to the bluetooth devices, but the Victron App doesn't appear to see them at all. I am leaning more towards lack of motivation to finish what they started...or miscommunication?
They really need to REMOVE the downloads for the Windows support if it just plain doesn't work. Else they are going to get more sour grapes from tons of van lifers using old equipment to display victron data.
The second most common use case is development. Android app and game developers like to test apps and games on as many devices a possible before launch. Usually the Android Studio emulator is fine for this kind of work. However, Xamarin and Genymotion are excellent for this type of use as well.
@Guy Stewart (Victron Community Manager) I would very much like an update on this subject. Being able to connect one or more BMV712 to a Windows laptop via Bluetooth would add huge value for us. USB or serial is really undesirable.
We found we could connect the VE.Direct directly to an HC-05 Bluetooth to UART module. The module needed an AT command to set the baud rate to that of the BMV-700 and to check the correct mode was set. On windows the Bluetooth connection is set to appear as a standard COM port.
Don't know if this will be helpful or not, but Windows 10 now has the ability to link to your android phone (and probably tablet). May be brand specific though. I'm a Samsung guy & this feature is letting me see & use every app on my Note 9. So, while I haven't tried dragging my desktop out to my van yet, I'm guessing that a Windows 10 laptop would work.
I've just bought a new battery charger BSC IP67 and plan to buy another charger and more stuff from Victron, if it works fine. The Android App with Bluetooth works fine, but that it still does not work with Windows App after many years is very annoying. So the decision must be: Forget about Qt or forget about Bluetooth !!
Create a local webserver on the devices and let the WiFi create a hotspot. So the users can access the devices with the browser on the local devices using WLAN / WiFi and independent of the device (Android, Windows or whatever) and independet of updates on their computer-devices.
As next step create a web api so the devices cna be integrated in home-or industrial automation systems or in a cloud application. So the data can be synchronized into a cloud database. The end-users then can access the cloud data using again the browser, with all devices, independent of updates or changes on the operating systems. No more issues with the Victron App when a Mac update, a windows update or an Android update happens, because users will use the browser only.
If you would provide such a system, I certainly would use it and also pay a fee for use of such a system, it would also be strong sell argument to buy more Victron devices, because all can be integrated into one system.
As an example for such a system, check the Shelly devices from allterco robotics. They do exactly the same. The devices have a local webserver for configuration control and data display and there is the cloud shelly.cloud or my.shelly.cloud. plus an android app, But for Windows-Users we can just use the browser.
The alternative would be to create a device that acts as a bridge between the locally bluetooth connected devices and the cloud. So you would not have to change the bluetooth enabled Victron devices to make them connect to the internet.
Maybe you should get to know the Victron offerings a little better. From a product range of like 1000 items, some are just bits'n'pieces, some with no comms, some with BT for the phone-addicted, others with wires for a central hub (several types of 'GX' hub), and then their cloud (VRM, which is free).
I use a 5kW system and access everything from a Win lappy. Monitoring, setting changes, firmware updates, cloud, Everything. And I haven't seen better elsewhere. Just waiting for it here, it's coming.. :)
The idea of having "NO Windows App for the bluetooth devices" would be a disaster. You would be removing the ability for countless people to use their Windows Computers to monitor and control all their VE.Direct devices which are visible via VRM (be they Bluetooth or not).
I rarely use the SmartApp on my phone to connect to my BMV-712 or either of my SmartSolar MPPTs, but use the single VE.Connect on the PC instead to make changes to these, as well as the non-BT VE.Direct BMVs that are visible on VRM.
Sorry, but just because YOU have no use for an Application does not mean it is no good and should not exist. As far as it giving Victron a bad name, the added feature Victron introduced to allow VE.Connect on the PC to communicate with any wire-connected VE.Direct device was a brilliant idea and one I would sorely miss now I have got used to it.
Yeah most definitely, I really hate to be loading apps on a phone, I'm older so my eyes are not that good, so I prefer big screens with big letters and numbers. Right now I have 2 x10" android tablets next to each other so I can monitor the charge controller and the smart shunt, is basically all I need to know but would love to be able to monitor both devices in one bigger screen such as a PC monitor. I can't hook up to them via cables because my PC is located elsewhere and walls and floors in between, A WIFI connection would be perfect and I really can't afford the nice screens and such that Victron has to offer. Being able to connect and monitor data would be great for folks in my situation.
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