I have successfully installed LogitechMediaPlayer on a Mac-Mini, added the Squeezelite player, done a bit of configuring with "Terminal" and I'm now playing the Radio Paradise flac stream through a NorthStar Essensio USB dac connected to the Mac-Mini; running it headless and using Google Chrome Remote Desktop App from a Windows 10 Desktop to configure the Mac-Mini and SqueezePad on an iPad Pro to control the playback (other apps are available; also for Android).
@Man in a van thanks-will try that-I tried something similar with a pseudo Logitech player called iPeng to stream Deezer lossless from my first floor to my 3rd floor vintage Pioneer Elite M-90 power amp using my iPad Air 2
i have gotten RP to work on my iPhone and iPad and i use AQDFRed Dac via Apple camera kit-it sounds ok it says i am getting FLAC but doesn't sound as good as ROON/A+3/TIDAL or Qobuz desktop and OS apps and i now get RP on ROON's internet radio
I like iTunes for inet radio. Discoverability is not the best, scrolling through many pages of stations within their genre categories (and stations can move betwixt them sometimes). But what I like is the ability to just drag a station from the genre list into a playlist to save it for later play. I have one for classical stations, and another for the rest.
While i-stations metadata is a bit weird, being unlike a music file, I was able to directly access the URL in the iTunes stored record and fix it, after an early version of Pure Music, destroyed all my saved radio stations data. And just for i-radio, the price is right.
SHOUTCast is the other main internet radio streaming medium, so is a rival to Icecast (with a more commercial outlook and more popular due to better marketing). I assume all you were doing is accessing SHOUTCast's default internet radio station catalogue page. It's certainly much better presented than Icecast's default catalogue page.
What you need is an application that looks up the catalogues of both Icecast and SHOUTcast. One such application is TuneIn, which is available via a web browser, as well as specific software for Windows, iOS and Android. The Android version is particularly good as it allows you to select a particular stream, if varying quality streams are available for a particular internet radio station.
If I can avoid, I usually don't listen to music via a computer, connected with my DACs. At least, my front ends are in general Linn Kazoo or Auralic Lightning DS. Kazoo uses TuneIn and LDS vTuner as iRadio service. On both platforms there are options to add individual streams, if the station of choice in best possible quality is not available by default.
Thanks for that. Years ago, when WinAmp was still an app--and before whatever buyout they went through--the ShoutCAST web page was a huge database-style sortable listing, showing number of listeners online for every station as well as bit-rate, country, etc. Now their web listing is some slick sponsored garbage. And the Icecast page is worse--in the other direction. Plus Icecast seems to have a fraction of the number of stations that ShoutCAST does.
I am looking forward to Radio Paradise's desktop player app--due in February. And it will support their super-high rate FLAC stream! Right now the only way to tune to that is via their mobile app. Sure hope their desktop app is as awesome as their iOS already is.
Yeah, but how many stations can you listen to ? RP is on there, I have it saved since I saw this thread. I'd think that friendly recommendations, like this thread, and browsing the genre/alpha lists would yield plenty of candidates for your attention.
You are right. Not many. But my OCD for completeness and my sometimes desire to explore weird world "radio" stations from the other side of the globe is why I dislike the "curated" lists. Sometimes its fun to look for the bizarre and obscure. The rest of the time I just put on Radio Paradise or my own library of music.
Having been spoilt by LMS's support of Radio Paradise's proprietary mechsnism for obtaining their FLAC streams, I missed the announcement of this bog standard Icecast provided OGG FLAC internet radio stream, added about a month ago:
Does anyone here know if there is a way to play a RadioParadise stream with HQ Player (>NAA on NUC)? HQ Player of course can handle FLAC, but I do not know if/how it can be made to playback a realtime stream. I would LOVE that as it would enable me to play my favorite station on my main system instead of just on my desktop system.
I'm frequently listening to the Radio Paradise FLAC stream via Roon for more than two weeks now and it's working, with some interruptions and dropouts, quite well. I hope they'll fix the issues and offer it as regular service, soon.
I'm frequently listening to the Radio Paradise FLAC stream via Roon for more than two weeks now and it's working with some interruptions and dropouts quite well. I hope they'll get it stable as regular streaming offer, soon.
Then I opened that file in a text editor, could see the single track, and then added some Radio Paradise FLAC stream URLs that I found. Here is exactly everything that is in the file--saved with m3u8 extension;
You mentioning dragging the m3u8 file into HQPlayer's window reminded me of another post by Jussi actually confirming that HQPlayer does indeed support OGG FLAC streams and it mentions a far simpler method - just drop the stream's link on the HQPlayer window!
No idea why the m3u8 file doesn't work for loading the stream and unfortunately I don't have HQPlayer to hand to test with. I got the method from point 3 of bogi's stream from foobar2000 to HQPlayer guide doc, as linked in that thread:
I buy lossless from:
bandcamp
zdigital (have a much smaller range of labels than they used to but you might be lucky)
hdtracks (seem to have removed their regional restrictions recently)
store.tidal.com (expensive but surprisingly good range)
junodownload (but lots of regional restrictions)
traxsource
beatport
I find this quite annoying as well. There's stuff out there I'm wanting to pay for but its only available via streaming platforms/walled gardens. If the internet breaks, I don't want the music to die.
I gave up on thinking I'd build up my own collection of HD music, and just got a Tidal HiFi subscription instead. $23.99 per month gets you access to quite an extensive catalog of lossless music! I've been pretty happy with it so far, so I haven't got around to trialling Amazon HD, but apparently they're pretty good too.
Depending on the platform, you can download anything you want for offline use, works well on iOS and Android. So if the internet ever "breaks", you've still got something to listen to until its "fixed". ;-)
FWIW, I can confirm there is quite a lot of Mike Oldfield on Tidal, with a "Masters" version of just about all of his albums, far as I can tell. Sounds damn good with my desktop DAC/AMP and LCD2-Classic headphones ;-)
Biggest advantage I have with buying the ye olde fashion discs is that I can rip it into various formats. On my computer I use lowest compression FLAC, the car's best supported format is 768kbps WMA and the phone get's crappy 320kbps lossy.
I've tried buying FLAC's and found I can't change the format to be compatible with my various equipment's needs.
Downside is a big one, Australia post. A lot of titles are only available from overseas, UK usually and Australia post looses 15% of all parcels (well, of my parcels they loose that many) and if they don't loose it, 3-5 months delivery for shipments from the UK.
If your lucky, it's available from JB Hifi.
Personally, I don't understand why iTune's is stuck back in the 90's and AAC lossy formats that shred a song down to 4 megabytes. A FLAC/ALAC lossless file per song is 15-30 megabytes of data, 400 megs roughly for an entire album, so under a minute to download for most NBN connected people.
Gee, how many lossless albums can I get on a 64 gig card? 200? So portable storage is not the problem anymore.
AAC is way better than most (and Apple's encoding is excellent) but I'd guess that with the increased competition from Spotify's upcoming lossless service, Amazon's HD service (not in Australia sadly) and Qobuz going global, they'll have to make a move with Apple Music soon. Typically for Apple, they're probably waiting to see how everyone else does first :)
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