new CX CAS OS won't load

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diffeq

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Oct 11, 2011, 9:50:04 AM10/11/11
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I'm trying to load the new (3.1.0.392) OS - CX (.tcc) version to a CX
CAS which now has 3.0.2.1791 - and I'm getting a message that I have
the wrong handheld type. I've used the "show device info" tool on the
NSpire Computer Link, and it is showing the correct handheld. What's
happening?

Sean Bird

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Oct 11, 2011, 10:23:41 AM10/11/11
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I'd recommend 1-800-TI-CARES
tcc does sound good for CX CAS.

Joe

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Oct 11, 2011, 11:35:40 AM10/11/11
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Sean, I've been reading the TI boards for at least a dozen years and I
remember when people had trouble updating the 84 and 89. Now a dozen
years later updating TI calc's is still a problem. On the other hand
I routinely down load lots of apps for my iPad and never have a
problem. Why is it that Apple can get it right but TI still cannot?
Is it worth it to update? I don't think so for a TI product. My
calc's have the same os that the had when I bought then. Problem
solved - I don't have to waste my time dealing with update problems
for my calc's.

On Oct 11, 7:23 am, Sean Bird <covenantb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd recommend1-800-TI-CARES
> tcc does sound good for CX CAS.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:50 AM, diffeq <bkin...@fenwickfalcons.org> wrote:
> > I'm trying to load the new (3.1.0.392) OS - CX (.tcc) version to a CX
> > CAS which now has3.0.2.1791- and I'm getting a message that I have

Nelson Sousa

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Oct 11, 2011, 11:41:23 AM10/11/11
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You can't compare downloading an app with upgrading the OS on the Nspire.
What you can compare is how easy/hard it is to upgrade the OS on your
iPad/iPhone/iPod with TI-Nspire's.

Nspire's are still more prone to problems than iDevices, but that's
more a huge quality of iStuff that almost always upgrades without any
incidents than a fault on TI's devices (problems are, despite your
opinion to the contrary) quite rare as a certain informal survey on
this group demonstrated about 1 year ago.

Compare the ease to upgrade the OS on stuff like android based
devices, TI calculators, iStuff, laptops, etc. and you get very
different user experiences, ranging from almost absence of problems to
almost absence of success at first attempt.

Nelson

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diffeq

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Oct 11, 2011, 2:54:34 PM10/11/11
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I called TI. They said not to use the NSpire Computer Link - it's
obsolete. Use the CAS Teacher Software instead - it will do the
downloads. That worked.

alcoonslists

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Oct 11, 2011, 3:21:02 PM10/11/11
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To expand on this, when I spoke to them quite a while ago, they said that having multiple softwares installed on one computer (link, teacher softwares) can step on each other since they share some low level files.  While I have not had problems with this on the Mac so far, I will not be surprised when it happens.  

Al

alcoonslists

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Oct 11, 2011, 5:36:35 PM10/11/11
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Anyone have or have a link for a listing of the features which the Nspire Teacher Software has that are missing in the Student Software?

Thanks,

Al
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Andy Kemp

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Oct 11, 2011, 5:52:48 PM10/11/11
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Not seen a list but my understanding (from memory) it that it is basically two features:

'SmartView' - where you can run the software as a pure emulator for the handheld with the screen above the keyboard

Questions - student software doesn't allow you to add questions to your documents

Also not really a 'feature' difference but the teacher edition includes both CAS and non-CAS in the same install.

Apart from that I believe they are the same...

Cheers
Andy

Nicole Thuestad

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Oct 11, 2011, 6:00:17 PM10/11/11
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Pretty much the big thing that is missing are the additional workspaces.  If you have TI-Nspire Navigator Teacher Software you will have all five workspaces (Content, Class, Documents, Review and Portfolio).  If you have TI-Nspire Teacher Software or the student software you will only have the Content and Document workspaces (please correct me on this if I have it wrong). 
 
Also, I think the emulator on the student software does not give you all the options as the emulator on the teacher software. 
 
One of the bigger differences is also in the method to activate the software.  The last I knew, the student software needed you to enter a code from the calculator. 

Jim Fullerenex

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Oct 11, 2011, 7:52:32 PM10/11/11
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Nspire computer link is obsolete??!! I find TI's explanation hardly plausible. Then what about those who do not have student/teacher software at all? They will no longer be able to update their CX handhelds?

Best,
Jim



2011/10/12 alcoonslists <alcoon...@verizon.net>

Travis Bower

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Oct 11, 2011, 8:56:57 PM10/11/11
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JF you have expressed your concern previously about some global markets not including software with the hh.  I would hope TI would continue computer link.  Although I have very few students who do not have the software [they 1 lost their disk 2 bought a used Nspire], I would like them to be able to take screenshots for projects that they submit online.
I tried in vain to find an easy way to get the software.
Now those students need to find a creative solution--link to a friend>he takes a screenshot>mails to him>he posts online.  Oh well.....

Joe

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Oct 11, 2011, 10:59:37 PM10/11/11
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And the reason for this constant updating is what? To get some minor
new performance benefit?
And then the problems go on and on and on, and on and on and on.
Dissagree with me if you wish but I call playing that game insanity
and using the device "as is" the only sane thing to do. But if you
enjoy the stress and difficulty, have fun.

On Oct 11, 4:52 pm, Jim Fullerenex <smoat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nspire computer link is obsolete??!! I find TI's explanation hardly
> plausible. Then what about those who do not have student/teacher software at
> all? They will no longer be able to update their CX handhelds?
>
> Best,
> Jim
>
> 2011/10/12 alcoonslists <alcoonsli...@verizon.net>
>
>
>
> > To expand on this, when I spoke to them quite a while ago, they said that
> > having multiple softwares installed on one computer (link, teacher
> > softwares) can step on each other since they share some low level files.
> >  While I have not had problems with this on the Mac so far, I will not be
> > surprised when it happens.
>
> > Al
>
> > On Oct 11, 2011, at 2:54 PM, diffeq wrote:
>
> > I called TI.  They said not to use the NSpire Computer Link - it's
> > obsolete.  Use the CAS Teacher Software instead - it will do the
> > downloads.  That worked.
>
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alcoonslists

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Oct 11, 2011, 11:06:31 PM10/11/11
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Travis.  From what I was told by TI last week, when you purchase a new touchpad faceplate (for $10) the get a new copy of the NSpire Student software.  Not free, not the computer link software (I too wish that was still available), but a reasonable price if they are going to charge at all.  

Al

Give 1-800-TI-Cares a call and see if that is true.

Al

mbonds

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Oct 12, 2011, 5:39:30 PM10/12/11
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So how do students trasfer files on their home computer if they don't
have the Student Software and TI doesn't want them using the Nspire
Computer Link software?

Jim Fullerenex

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Oct 12, 2011, 9:38:16 PM10/12/11
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Hi Lionel,

I've installed TILP but I cannot start the program, because
"libatk-1.0-0.dll" is not found. What happens?

Jim

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Lionel Debroux

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Oct 13, 2011, 1:57:14 AM10/13/11
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Hi,

> I've installed TILP but I cannot start the program, because
> "libatk-1.0-0.dll" is not found. What happens?

For portability across Windows, MacOS X, Linux and the BSD family, TILP
II is based on GTK+, which was the main choice for a portable UI toolkit
at the time the unified GTK+ interface was created. At the time, years
ago, Qt 3 didn't support Windows, so it was a non-starter.
Did you check the "Install GTK+ runtime" checkbox when installing the
TILP II 1.16 beta (see
http://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=159196#159196 or
http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?topic=1413.msg180056#msg180056 ) ?
Did the GTK+ runtime download somehow fail, though I recently made it
much more robust than it used to be ? The GTK+ 2.22 runtime can be
downloaded from
http://sourceforge.net/userapps/mediawiki/alex-sh/index.php?title=Downloads
.


The TILP II 1.14 and 1.15 releases won't work for the purpose of
communicating with Nspires on Windows, because they don't contain a
patched, unsigned libusb which works around one of their bugs. The patch
is not necessary on MacOS X, Linux and *BSD.
That's why I pointed you to the TILP II 1.16 beta Windows build, which
has both the workaround (I contributed it to upstream libusb after
discussing with the maintainers, because Nspires don't seem to be the
only buggy devices around) and a recent signed driver which can be used
for TILP (libticables) installation alongside TI-Connect / TINC(L)S
after manual configuration :)


Hope that this helps,
Lionel.

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