TI-89/V200 port to iPhone device

[elkar]

Please development group TI calculators, port the calculators TI-89/TI-
V200 to iPhone device to like TI-BAII Plus
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=329739750&mt=8
http://jkontherun.com/2009/09/28/ti-follows-hp-ports-business-calculator-for-iphone/

HP48 iPhone Port info link
http://www.adictoshp.org/node/1179

[Wayne]

Elkar,
I would also encourage TI to consider porting their calculator
software to handheld devices like the iPhone, Windows Mobile, and, my
personal favorite, Android. Just out of curiosity, why not include
the Nspire and Nspire CAS

On 3 Nov, 11:10, elkar <elkinarbel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please development group TI calculators, port the calculators TI-89/TI-

> V200 to iPhone device to like TI-BAII Plushttp://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=329...http://jkontherun.com/2009/09/28/ti-follows-hp-ports-business-calcula...
>
> HP48 iPhone Port info linkhttp://www.adictoshp.org/node/1179

[Wayne]

I hit the send key before I finished my question:

Why not also include the Nspire and Nspire CAS as ports to the
handheld devices? I have used the TI89 for many years and consider it
a great calculator, but overall the Nspire CAS is superior, in my
opinion. I would consider the Nspire CAS a better candidate for
porting to modern devices than the TI89.

Wayne

On 3 Nov, 23:41, Wayne <waynep...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Elkar,
> I would also encourage TI to consider porting their calculator
> software to handheld devices like the iPhone, Windows Mobile, and, my
> personal favorite, Android.  Just out of curiosity, why not include
> the Nspire and Nspire CAS
>
> On 3 Nov, 11:10, elkar <elkinarbel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Please development group TI calculators, port the calculators TI-89/TI-

> > V200 to iPhone device to like TI-BAII Plushttp://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=329......
>
> > HP48 iPhone Port info linkhttp://www.adictoshp.org/node/1179- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Ross]

I think that because of liscensing problems, the best that could be
done is make an emulator for the iPhone, and have people put their
ROMS onto it. With the TI-Nspire, there is no ROM, because the only
emulator is made by TI and is included in the TE software. I know
that I don't have the skill to make an emulator for the iphone, but I
bet that somebody at ticalc.org does.

> > > HP48 iPhone Port info linkhttp://www.adictoshp.org/node/1179-Hide quoted text -

[Joe]

Nspire cas is ported to windows of course so maybe it would be easy to
extend that to iphone. There are a lot of loyal TI cas users that
have iphones so that is a sizable market that is growing.
Bye the way, an interesting discovery that I made, is that I can input
equations much mush faster and accurately using the keypad screen of
the windows cas on my netbook computer and a wireless mouse, than by
pressing the buttons on the actual keyboard on the handheld.

On Nov 3, 8:41 pm, Wayne <waynep...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Elkar,
> I would also encourage TI to consider porting their calculator
> software to handheld devices like the iPhone, Windows Mobile, and, my
> personal favorite, Android.  Just out of curiosity, why not include
> the Nspire and Nspire CAS
>
> On 3 Nov, 11:10, elkar <elkinarbel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Please development group TI calculators, port the calculators TI-89/TI-

> > V200 to iPhone device to like TI-BAII Plushttp://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=329......
>
> > HP48 iPhone Port info linkhttp://www.adictoshp.org/node/1179- Hide quoted text -

[Andy Kemp]

I have to say I don't see this happening - despite it being an interesting idea!  The problem with the iPhone market at present is the price of apps, even top end technical apps like SpaceTime or Wolfram Alpha only retail for $20-30, which is unlikely to be sufficient return on the investment (particularly after apple take their 30%).  Also a push into the iPhone market is likely to canabilise the handheld market.

Also those working towards externally assessed exams would not be allowed to use something like an iphone or ipod touch in the exam (unlike the handheld) as it cannot be controlled...

Also I am not convinced that the screen is really big enough to accomodate both the 'screen' and the keyboard effectively for the Nspire, which would mean significant rewriting to make it work.

Finally iphone Apps have to be ported to Cocoa, which again would require a significant investment of time and money to achieve, which given the likely returns is unlikely to make a credible business case.

As it is I would prefer that TI continued to invest time on improving the experience of using the software and the handhelds, rather than diverting investment time and money into this...

That said if a port for the iphone were to turn up at some point I would certainly be one of the first to buy it!

Cheers
Andy

[Joe]

I agree with most of what you said Andy but keep in mind that with the
hand helds TI has parts, labor, and transportation costs that don't
occur with software sales. At $20-30 I also I would certainly be one
of the first to buy it.

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[Ross]

I could definitely see someone porting an emulator like VTI over to
the iPhone, as it is already available for pocket pc's (as far as I
know). Concerning a TI-Nspire port to the iPhone, I don't see that
every happening, nor would I want it for one large reason: that would
mean the TI-Nspire team taking less time upgrading the handheld and
more time porting it, meaning updates going from every 6 months to
probably every 8-12 months.

[Andy Kemp]

I'm not convinced a port like VTI would get through Apple's vetting process they have been very harsh with emulator type apps, only reluctantly allowing the C64 app through...  Also as an 89/200 emulator would allow programming - which is stricly prohibitted this would have to be disabled...

All in I suspect this idea is dead in the water - the best chance is a someone developing an emulator that could be used on jailbroken devices...

[Satyajit Bag]

How can one plot a graph in N-spire(non-cas)  from table values(x-y values), Please help me!

Thanks in advance

 

Satyajit

 

--
Every instructor assumes that you have nothing else to do except study for that instructor’s course.

[lee kucera]

Do you mean a frequency table? If so, look in the Library for the
FreqTable-->List command. It turns your table into a list that can
then be used with One-Variable Statistcis, graphing, etc.
lk

lee kucera
a.p. statistics
leek...@gmail.com

[Andy Kemp]

In fact since 1.7 this has become much easier!

You can draw a frequency plot by going to the L&S page, then pressing MENU, 3, 5 for Frequency plot then choose the two lists... 

[Nelson Sousa]

If your table already has x and y values it's a simple scatter plot.

Name the columns filling the top box of each column (user names easy
to recognize, don't use L1 and L2; you can use up to 16 chars). Then
go to a G&G page and define a scatter plot using those lists (Menu ->
Graph Type -> Scatter plot) or add a D&S page and click on the boxes
near each axis to define the lists to plot.

Cheers,
Nelson

[Wayne]

Nelson,
Why can one not use L1 and L2 to name the lists? Is this a
restriction for the Nspire? I think those names work fine with the
TI89, for example. Thanks.
Wayne

On 5 Nov, 05:13, Nelson Sousa <nso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If your table already has x and y values it's a simple scatter plot.
>
> Name the columns filling the top box of each column (user names easy
> to recognize, don't use L1 and L2; you can use up to 16 chars). Then
> go to a G&G page and define a scatter plot using those lists (Menu ->
> Graph Type -> Scatter plot) or add a D&S page and click on the boxes
> near each axis to define the lists to plot.
>
> Cheers,
> Nelson
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 08:04, Andy Kemp <a...@1kemp.co.uk> wrote:
> > In fact since 1.7 this has become much easier!
> > You can draw a frequency plot by going to the L&S page, then pressing MENU,
> > 3, 5 for Frequency plot then choose the two lists...
>

> > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 5:08 AM, lee kucera <leekuc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Do you mean a frequency table? If so, look in the Library for the
> >> FreqTable-->List command.  It turns your table into a list that can
> >> then be used with One-Variable Statistcis, graphing, etc.
> >> lk
>
> >> lee kucera
> >> a.p. statistics

> >> leekuc...@gmail.com

>
> >> On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Satyajit Bag wrote:
>
> >> How can one plot a graph in N-spire(non-cas)  from table values(x-y
> >> values), Please help me!
> >> Thanks in advance
>
> >> Satyajit
>
> >> --
> >> Every instructor assumes that you have nothing else to do except study

> >> for that instructor’s course.- Hide quoted text -

[John Hanna]

He did not say "can't" he said "don't":
there are no 'built-in' lists (L1..L6)in the TI-Nspire. Name the lists
using MEANINGFUL words for the problem. If it's just x's and y's, I use "xs"
and "ys" for the names of the lists.

Sail Upwind,
John Hanna
T3 • Teachers Teaching with Technology
973.398.3815
jeh...@optonline.net
www.johnhanna.us
"the contact between the acute angle of a triangle and a circle has no less
effect than that of God's finger touching Adam's in Michelangelo." - Wassily
Kandinsky

[Wayne]

I did not mistake the language, just wanted to make sure there was not
an internal limitation that was unpublished.
Wayne

On 5 Nov, 08:46, John Hanna <johneha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> He did not say "can't" he said "don't":
>      there are no 'built-in' lists (L1..L6)in the TI-Nspire. Name the lists
> using MEANINGFUL words for the problem. If it's just x's and y's, I use "xs"
> and "ys" for the names of the lists.
>
> Sail Upwind,
>     John Hanna
>     T3 • Teachers Teaching with Technology
>     973.398.3815

>     jeha...@optonline.net

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[Nelson Sousa]

oh, you can perfectly well use l1, l2, l3, etc. The same way you can
use a, b, c, x, y and z as variables. I just don't think anybody would
ever want to use those names, because:
Problem 1: after the first bunch of lists you'll never remember what they mean;
Problem 2: variables are displayed in lowercase, "l1" gets really ugly;

I generally use names like "xlist" and "ylist" if I want just 1 plot
(and if they're just points with no real-world meaning). If I have
more than one plot I use names like "population", "year", "pressure",
"volume", etc. something that explicitly informs the user about the
meaning of the data set.

Plus you get nice captions when hovering over the scatter plot or
displaying its label.

The 89 Titanium and Voyage 200 use list1, list2, list3, ... as default
names for the Stat with List Editor APP; those names are not totally
bad, but aren't good either. They're a slight improvement over 84
Pluses' L1, L2, ... which are just plain awful. One has to make an
effort to know where the data came from. If the data came from
Easydata, then L2 is the measurement of CH1, L3 the measurement of
channel 2 and so forth, so you must remember which sensor was
connected to port 1 and to port 2 when you did the experiment (which
could be the week before!). As we have up to 16 chars on the Nspire,
using them is a very wise decision.


Cheers,
Nelson

[Theresa Rice]

Can anyone tell me an easy way to go from radian to degree mode and back again in G&G?  My students and I are frustrated and it seems like the only sure way to change it is to change both the system settings and also the G&G settings.  Is there a shortcut that will work?

Thanks in advance for your help.

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From: Satyajit Bag

To: tins...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:03 AM

Subject: [tinspire] Re: TI-89/V200 port to iPhone device

[Morse, Dana]

Hello Terry,

 

The two choices in G & G have Graphing angle and Geometry angle.

 

I would leave the Geometry Angle as Degree and you really only need to change the Graphing angle when appropriate…

 

0<x<2pi

Or

0<x<360 degrees

 

Regards,

Dana F. Morse

Educational Technology Consultant Texas Instruments, New York (315) 730-9858 Cell

(815) 572-9840 Fax

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Theresa Rice]

We keep having problems unless we change both the document settings and the G&G settings.  Is there someplace to change everything in one step?

[Bryson Perry]

When using radian attach the r onto the angle and when you need to use degrees insert the degree symbol.  This works for graphing while in one mode or the other.  In geometry I just use degrees

[Sean Bird]

What do you think about this as a shortcut...

Save a document with the desired settings.

For example, one of my physics students has a file on his handheld called "physics phun" where the mode is set to degrees.

Happy teaching,
 Sean Bird

[Ray O'B1]

I wished the original Nspire was one big touch screen. Everything
could have been programmed and it might have given you more total
screen, making the multiple representations more powerful.

I get that because of testing that this would not have passed muster.
It's interesting that Apple constantly defines the cutting edge and
then people like Microsoft attempt to emulate them.

Ray

[-TJ]

Dear Everyone,

Once again, what is the point of connecting the TI-Nspire to an
iPhone?

Sincerely,
-TJ

[Nelson Sousa]

the discussion isn't about connecting an Nspire to an iPhone, it's to
use Nspire software on an iPhone, the same way you use it, for
example, on a PC. Or, if you prefer, using an iPhone (with it's touch
screen, accelerometer, and all neat features) instead of an handheld
(heavier, bulkier, grayscale, without backlight, etc.)

Just as a side note, I think such a port is somewhat pointless (the
whole point of using calculators in teaching, specifically in exams,
is having mathematics software on a platform WITHOUT any form of
communication with the outside world) and for more than obvious
reasons (some of which mentioned above) will never happen.


Nelson

[Theresa Rice]

Not a bad idea, and I may just do that.  I wish there was a "mode" option in G&G under the menu which would take care of it.

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